Guns, Guns, Guns Everywhere.., But...,

[GLASNOST]

He's acting as if the only murders that count are those with guns
Does the murder with a vehicle count any less than that with a gun? How about a baseball bat? Hammer? Fist? knife?
Why do you want to disarm women? why do you support criminals with guns? why do you support killing by other means?

Are you another illiterate or have you already been detected? I am losing count.

Are you going to answer the question? No comrade I am not illiterate I can see through your propaganda very clearly. you take guns away people will still murder people with what they have on hand

If you are not completely illiterate then it's your English comprehension that is non-existent. I know why Americans are forever shooting each other to death - no communication skills.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He's acting as if the only murders that count are those with guns
Does the murder with a vehicle count any less than that with a gun? How about a baseball bat? Hammer? Fist? knife?
Why do you want to disarm women? why do you support criminals with guns? why do you support killing by other means?

Are you another illiterate or have you already been detected? I am losing count.

Are you going to answer the question? No comrade I am not illiterate I can see through your propaganda very clearly. you take guns away people will still murder people with what they have on hand

If you are not completely illiterate then it's your English comprehension that is non-existent. I know why Americans are forever shooting each other to death - no communication skills.

so other murders are irrelevant to you?

 

[GLASNOST]

only a Russian with the belief in the Russian old guard system would have used Glasnost as a moniker.

Sure .. and only people wearing sandals would wait for the traffic light to change to green before crossing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

only a Russian with the belief in the Russian old guard system would have used Glasnost as a moniker.

Sure .. and only people wearing sandals would wait for the traffic light to change to green before crossing.

Glasnost is a Russian term that much is true
COMRADE

 

[cnm]

You made my point by pointing out countries that Russia controlled thanks for playing.

Where Russia was and is not spoken. That you swallowed the Kool Aid so assiduously is to your credit. Drink up.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You made my point by pointing out countries that Russia controlled thanks for playing.

Where Russia was and is not spoken. That you swallowed the Kool Aid so assiduously is to your credit. Drink up.

Again thanks for making my point on the Russian occupation

 

[GLASNOST]

I know where you are from

I am going to pee myself with joy. There's one, Miss! ... In the far end of the classroom!

hw to you say that in Russian comrade?

That's easy:

 

[candycorn]

... guns are an inanimate object, a tool, no different than a hammer or saw, they too can cause great harm if not used properly.......

You said it yourself, "guns are an inanimate object, a tool, no different than a hammer or saw, they too can cause great harm if not used properly".

Within your own words lies the answer you seek. What are matches? Tools that "can cause great harm if not used properly"? Let's tell the truth here (for once) and carry your theme to its' logical conclusion. We want to be honest, right? It is solutions you (we) are after, correct?

So let's try again and be just a tiny bit more forthright this time:
Tools (including guns and matches) are inanimate objects, no different than a hammer or saw, they too can cause great harm ...... if not used properly or in the hands of the irresponsible.

Final note: From generations of statistics, experience and paternal/maternal concerns we do not allow children to have matches - and from the very same experience, statistics and concern we ought not to allow Americans to have guns.

And frome experience and statistics....you don't know what you are talking about.....

The anti-gun hypothesis and argument.....

More Guns = More Gun crime regardless of any other factors.

Actual Result:

In the U.S....as more Americans own and carry guns over the last 26 years, gun murder down 49%, gun crime down 75%, violent crime down 72%

The result: Exact opposite of theory of anti-gunners....

In Science when you have a theory, when that theory is tested....and the exact opposite result happens...that means your theory is wrong. That is science....not left wing wishful thinking.


Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

As to mass public shootings and gun free zones....

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

You made quite a leap, didn't you.
Here are the most important and irrefutable statistics of all:
0 Guns = 0 Shootings.
0 Destitution amongst your population = 0 Shootings even if they have guns.

ok, so what you are saying is that without guns there are ZERO MURDERS????????????

Can you quote her/him as saying that? No.

Liat

 

[GLASNOST]

He's acting as if the only murders that count are those with guns
Does the murder with a vehicle count any less than that with a gun? How about a baseball bat? Hammer? Fist? knife?
Why do you want to disarm women? why do you support criminals with guns? why do you support killing by other means?

Are you another illiterate or have you already been detected? I am losing count.

Are you going to answer the question? No comrade I am not illiterate I can see through your propaganda very clearly. you take guns away people will still murder people with what they have on hand

If you are not completely illiterate then it's your English comprehension that is non-existent. I know why Americans are forever shooting each other to death - no communication skills.

so other murders are irrelevant to you?

Are you capable of communicating in any language at all?

 

[GLASNOST]

Here are the most important and irrefutable statistics of all:
0 Guns = 0 Shootings.
0 Destitution amongst your population = 0 Shootings even if they have guns.

ok, so what you are saying is that without guns there are ZERO MURDERS????????????

Can you quote her/him as saying that? No.
Liat

Thank you, Candy Corn.

 

[candycorn]

Here are the most important and irrefutable statistics of all:
0 Guns = 0 Shootings.
0 Destitution amongst your population = 0 Shootings even if they have guns.

ok, so what you are saying is that without guns there are ZERO MURDERS????????????

Can you quote her/him as saying that? No.
Liat

Thank you, Candy Corn.

You’re full of shit quite often but not on this topic

 

[GLASNOST]

You’re full of shit quite often but not on this topic

What time do you get off from work today?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I know where you are from

I am going to pee myself with joy. There's one, Miss! ... In the far end of the classroom!

hw to you say that in Russian comrade?

That's easy:

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no that's not it should I report you post as harassment?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Here are the most important and irrefutable statistics of all:
0 Guns = 0 Shootings.
0 Destitution amongst your population = 0 Shootings even if they have guns.

ok, so what you are saying is that without guns there are ZERO MURDERS????????????

Can you quote her/him as saying that? No.
Liat

Thank you, Candy Corn.

Can you read it? his post was quoted. By ignoring all the other murders he's saying no gun no more murders.
Thanks for playing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You’re full of shit quite often but not on this topic

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What time do you get off from work today?

No gun no more murders that's your view lol

 

[harmonica]

yet, why do liberals hate them so much ?

guns are an inanimate object, a tool, no different than a hammer or saw, they too can cause great harm if not used properly.


so..., please, if there is just one liberal here on this forum who can read, write and speak intelligently, intellectually, logically, and sanely, PLEASE, tell us responsible gun owners who are defenders of our Constitutional rights whom you folks lovingly call, "nutters".., we are no more "nutters" than irrational liberals who fly off the handle and blame a gun for the stupidity of one or more persons.

one last thing libs, 98% of us gun owners do NOT own and most likely never will own an "ASSAULT RIFLE" do you know why ?

i will not tell you why now as i wish to read your replies first.., then i will explain why and what exactly an "Assault Rifle" is...., OK ??

see.., i did not insult or call anyone names, can you do the same ? thank you all for reading and replying to this post

regards,
WM

.....then why don't you use them for self defense instead of firearms???!!!--if they are the same??

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He's acting as if the only murders that count are those with guns
Does the murder with a vehicle count any less than that with a gun? How about a baseball bat? Hammer? Fist? knife?
Why do you want to disarm women? why do you support criminals with guns? why do you support killing by other means?

Are you another illiterate or have you already been detected? I am losing count.

Are you going to answer the question? No comrade I am not illiterate I can see through your propaganda very clearly. you take guns away people will still murder people with what they have on hand

If you are not completely illiterate then it's your English comprehension that is non-existent. I know why Americans are forever shooting each other to death - no communication skills.

so other murders are irrelevant to you?

Are you capable of communicating in any language at all?

Are you capable of answer the fucking question?

 

[harmonica]

You’re full of shit quite often but not on this topic

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What time do you get off from work today?

No gun no more murders that's your view lol

there would be a lot less murders with less firearms
for one, it's physically impossible to kill as many - example = Las Vegas

 

[bigrebnc1775]

yet, why do liberals hate them so much ?

guns are an inanimate object, a tool, no different than a hammer or saw, they too can cause great harm if not used properly.


so..., please, if there is just one liberal here on this forum who can read, write and speak intelligently, intellectually, logically, and sanely, PLEASE, tell us responsible gun owners who are defenders of our Constitutional rights whom you folks lovingly call, "nutters".., we are no more "nutters" than irrational liberals who fly off the handle and blame a gun for the stupidity of one or more persons.

one last thing libs, 98% of us gun owners do NOT own and most likely never will own an "ASSAULT RIFLE" do you know why ?

i will not tell you why now as i wish to read your replies first.., then i will explain why and what exactly an "Assault Rifle" is...., OK ??

see.., i did not insult or call anyone names, can you do the same ? thank you all for reading and replying to this post

regards,
WM

.....then why don't you use them for self defense instead of firearms???!!!--if they are the same??

Your need to feel say doesn't trump my rights.

 

[harmonica]

yet, why do liberals hate them so much ?

guns are an inanimate object, a tool, no different than a hammer or saw, they too can cause great harm if not used properly.


so..., please, if there is just one liberal here on this forum who can read, write and speak intelligently, intellectually, logically, and sanely, PLEASE, tell us responsible gun owners who are defenders of our Constitutional rights whom you folks lovingly call, "nutters".., we are no more "nutters" than irrational liberals who fly off the handle and blame a gun for the stupidity of one or more persons.

one last thing libs, 98% of us gun owners do NOT own and most likely never will own an "ASSAULT RIFLE" do you know why ?

i will not tell you why now as i wish to read your replies first.., then i will explain why and what exactly an "Assault Rifle" is...., OK ??

see.., i did not insult or call anyone names, can you do the same ? thank you all for reading and replying to this post

regards,
WM

.....then why don't you use them for self defense instead of firearms???!!!--if they are the same??

Your need to feel say doesn't trump my rights.

Your need to feel say doesn't trump my rights.

English please