Help me understand something about Black culture / behaviors/ beliefs?

[IM2]

Not really. Because rap is not the only music blacks listen to.

True. But the reported sales volumes are evidence that a sufficient number of young Blacks listen to this type of rap "music" to be more than adequate cause for concern:

Lyrics from some currently popular Black rap "artists:"
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"Kill the white people. We gonna make them hurt. Kill the white people but buy my record first; ha, ha, ha."

(Kill d'White People. Apache, Apache Ain't Shit, Tommy Boy Music, Time Warner, USA.)
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"Niggas in the church say kill whitey all night long. The white man is the devil. The CRIPS and Bloods are soldiers I'm recruiting with no dispute. Drive-by shooting on this white genetic mutant. Let's go and kill some rednecks. Menace Clan ain't afraid. I got the .380. The homies think I'm crazy because I shot a white baby. I said. I said. I said kill whitey all night long. A nigga dumping on your white ass. Fuck this rap shit, nigga, I'm gonna blast. I beat a white boy to the motherfucking ground."

(Kill Whitey. Menace Clan. Da Hood. Rap-A-Lot Records.)
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"Devils fear this brand new shit. I bleed them next time I see them. I prey on these devils. Look what it has come to, Who you gonna run to when we get to mobbing, filling his body up with lead? Yah, cracker in my way. Slitting. Slit his throat. Watch his body shake. Watch his body shake. That's how we do it in the motherfucking San Francisco Bay. Sitting on the dock of the dirty with my AK."

(Heat--featuring Jet and Spice 1. Paris, Unleashed, 1998. Unleashed Records. Whirling Records.)
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"These devils make me sick. I love to fill them full of holes. Kill them all in the daytime, broad motherfucking daylight. 12 o'clock. Grab the Glock. Why wait for night."

(Sweatin Bullets. Brand Nubian. Everything Is Everything, 1994. Elektra Entertainment. Warner Communications.)
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"A fight, a fight, a ****** and a white. If the ****** don't win then we all jump in. Smoking all America's white boys."

(A Fight. Apache Ain't Shit. 1993, Tommy Boy Music. Time Warner, USA.)
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"I kill a devil right now. I say kill whitey all night long. I stabbed a fucking Jew with a steeple. I would kill a cracker for nothing, just for the fuck of it. Menace Clan kill a cracker, jack 'em even quicker. Catch that devil sleeping. Blow his fucking brains out."

(Fuck a Record Deal. Menace Clan. Da Hood. Rap-A-Lot Records. Noo Trybe Records, subsidiaries of Thorn EMI.)
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"To all my Universal Soldier's. Stay at attention while I strategize an invasion. The mission be assassination. Snipers hitting Caucasians with semi-automatic shots heard ‘round the world. My plot is to control the globe and hold the world hostage. See, I got a war plan more deadlier than Hitler. Lyrical specialist. Underworld terrorist. Keep the unity thick like mud. Pulling out gats. Launching deadly attacks."

(Blood for Blood; Killarmy, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, Wu-Tang Records.)
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"Won't be satisfied until the devils I see are all dead. My brother is sending me more guns from down South, pale face. It's all about brothers rising up. Wising up. Sizing up our situation. You be fucking with my turf when you be fucking with my race. Now face your maker and take your last breath. The time is half-past death. It's the Armageddon. Go into the garage. Find that old camouflage. Cracker-shooting nightly."

(What the Fuck. Brand Nubian. Everything Is Everything. Elektra Entertainment. Warner Communications. Time Warner, USA.)


"Like my niggas from South Central Los Angeles. They found that they couldn't handle us. Bloods> CRIPS. On the same squad with the Essays (Latino gangs). And nigga, it's time to rob and mob and break the white man.

(The Day the Niggaz Took Over. Dr Dre. The Chronic, 1993. Interscope Records, under Time Warner.)
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"Bust a Glock; devils get shot. When God give the word me herd like the buffalo through the neighborhood. Watch me blast. I'm killing more crackers than Bosnia-Herzegovina each and everyday. Don't bust until you see the whites of his eyes. The whites of his skin. Louis Farrakhan . Bloods and CRIPS and little old me. And we all getting ready for the enemy."

(Enemy. Ice Cube. Lethal Injection. Priority Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group), United Kingdom.)
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"Devil, to gangbanging there's a positive side and the positive side is this: Sooner than later the brothers will come to Islam and they will be the soldiers for the war. What war, you ask? Armageddon. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha."

Armageddon, RBX. The RBX Files. Premeditated Records. Warner Brother Records, Time Warner, USA. )
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"Subtract the devils that get smoked. We're people. Black people steal your mind back. Don't die in their wilderness. Let's point our heaters the other way.

(Dial 7. Diggable Planets. Blowout Comb, 1994. Pendulum Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)
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"Get them devil-made guns and leave them demons bleeding. Give them back whips and just feed them bullets."

(Wicked Ways. Sunz of Man. One Million Strong. The Album, 1995, Mergela Records,Solar/Hines Co., Prolific Records.)
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"It's time to send the devil to the essence. This is a must because there ain't no reform or trust. You get a Glock, you see a devil, bust. They'll be calling us the trigger men. The nappy-knotty red-beard devil-assassin. Lord make a law. At midnight I'll be bashing. Field niggas are locked in until 2005."

(Field Niggaz in a Huddle. Professor Griff. Blood of the Prophet. Lethal Records.)
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"He preys on old white ladies who drive the Mercedes with the windows cracked. You should've heard the bitch scream. Sticking guns in crackers' mouths. The cops can't stop it. Remember 4-29-92. Come on. Florence and Normandy coming to a corner near you. Cracker, we've been through your area. Mass hysteria. Led by your motherfucking Menace Clan."

(Mad Nigga. Menace Clan. Da Hood. Rap-A-Lot Records.)
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"The black man is god. Buy a Tec and let loose in the Vatican. I love the black faces. So put your Bible in the attic."

(Ain't No Mystery; Brand Nubian, In God We Trust, Elektra Entertainment, Warner Communications, Time Warner, USA.)
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"Dropping verses. Casting curses. Throwing these hexes on the devils. Respect to Farrakhan. But I'm the jungle-don. The new guerrilla. Top-ranked honky killer. What do blacks do. They just keep on blowing devils away. Devil fucking cracker. I'm tightening up the laces to my steel-toed boots. So I can walk. Stomp. We stomp this devil down in the park."

(Planet of da Apes. Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)
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"We're having thoughts of overthrowing the government. The brothers and sisters threw their fists in the air. It's open season on crackers, you know. The morgue will be full of Caucasian John Doe's. I make the riot shit look like a fairy tale. Oh my god, Allah, have mercy, I'm killing them devils because they're not worthy to walk the earth with the original black man. They must be forgetting; it's time for Armageddon. And I won't rest until they're all dead."

(Goin Bananas. Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records. Thorn EMI (now called The EMI Group, United Kingdom.)
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"The crackers ain't shit. Chase them out of the jungle. Now raise up off the planet. We get the 12 gauge; shot to the chest. We hitting devils up. Da Lench Mob. Environmental terrorist. I gripped the Glock and had to knock his head from his shoulders. I got the 30.06 on the rooftop. Pop, pop. So many devils die. Make sure I kill them. Lynch a thousand a week if it's necessary."

(Environmental Terrorist. Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records.)
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"Fuck them laws because the Mob is coming raw. Nigga, is you down because it's the Final Call. Grab your gat. Know the three will start busting. I'm trying to take them down. The war of wars with no fucking scores. April 29 was a chance to realize . The g.'s are out to kill. We got crackers to kill. Wending them back in on a ship to Europe. They deserve it. A nation-wide riot across America. This is the Final Call on black man and black woman. Rich and poor, rise up."

(Final Call Da Lench Mob. Planet of da Apes. Priority Records.)
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"Deal with the devil with my motherfucking steel . White man is something I tried to study. But I got my hands bloody. Yeah. I met Farrakhan and had dinner."

(When Will They Shoot. Ice Cube. The Predator. Priority Records.)
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"I pledge allegiance to only the black. Black, you had best prepare for the coming of war. Look at you devil. Now you're sweating. I'm telling you. You can't run from the hand of Armageddon. He eats his pig-steak rare so he can taste the blood."

(No Time. RBX. The RBX Files. Premeditated Records. Warner Brother Records. Time Warner, USA.)
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"Buck the devil; boom. Shoot you with my .22. I got plenty of crew. I take out white boys. We got big toys with the one-mile scope. taking whitey's throat."

(Buck tha Devil. Da Lench Mob. Guerrillas in tha Mist. Eastwest Records America. Elektra. Atlantic. Time Warner, USA.)
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"Camouflaged for the mission. Become Bonnie and Clyde. Carry .45's in these last days. An original black man with a plan to run these devils off our motherfucking land. The Sunz of Man war track. Kept gun in hand, stalking the land."

(Can I See You. Sunz of Man. Threat Records.)
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"I'm black with a bat, swinging at the head of a honky. The Terrorists about to murder your ass."

(Blow Dem Hoes Up. The Terrorists. Rap-A-Lot Records.)
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"Waiting for the crackers. Smuggle his mug is in the gutters. So we need your participation in the Caucasian assassination. Time is wasting. So who is in association with the ****** retaliation. It needs your total cooperation. A confrontation will be fought by the younger generation Because we got determination. All we need is organization."

(Purse Snatchers. Rush Associated Labels Recordings.)
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"The real black army is in jail. Come on my fellow prisoners. time to go to war. What we need to do is point the guns in the right direction. Me and my piece came to claim the brown man's cut. Infiltrate until it burns down. what we need to be talking about is what we gonna do to them. I'll get revenge if it's the last thing I do. they got us brainwashed to be the minority. but when we kill them off we gonna be the majority. If the whites speak up then I'll lead my people. Because two wrongs don't make it right but it damn sure make us equal. I'm inciting riots so let's start the looting. In this revolution I loathe my enemy."

(2 Wrongs. Rush Associated Labels Recordings.)

I'm not concerned about it. If you want to not be concerned end your racism.

As a white man you don't knw shit about our culture. What you are concerned about is in such small numbers that it won't happen. There happen to be back adults that do exist ok? And all those black kids will grow out of their rebellious years just like white kids do. So you're just a misguided racist talking stupid and actually I should charge you for my time.

 

[IM2]

Caucasian male here....generalizing ofcourse.
Us quality Caucasians tend to condemn and distance ourselves from the white criminals, white trash, white drug addicts and just overall poor quality Caucasians among us...we do this not only because they are poor quality humans but also because we are mindful that we are and can be grouped in with the common behaviors of our majority...like it or not generalizing and stereotyping isn't going away....It seems like more times than not the quality blacks are too quick to make excuses for the lesser quality and almost never condemn their piers who make them look bad...in fact, I've even seen them almost support the behaviors. Isn't this constant excuse making for bad behavior basically giving the youth a justification for their actions and behaviors? How will they ever hold themselves accountable if it's always someone else or another cause that made them do it. Aren't you in a sense condoning such bad behaviors by not condemning?
It seems blacks only follow and listen to blacks so until well respected blacks who are basically mentors to the youth...such as the Drake and Kanye's condemn bad behaviors can't we be pretty certain that X cycles will continue?

While your observation will undoubtedly be denounced by the delusion-peddlers and excuse-mongering race-pimps, everything you've written in the above commentary is the simple, factual truth. It is something I've also been observing over the years but haven't gotten around to bringing up as a separate issue, so I'm very pleased that you have.

An outstanding example of Black bias was the unified uproar that finally spawned the Black Lives Matter movement, i.e. the killing of that bullying Black thug, Michael Brown. Any cause to question the shooting of that assaultive punk was eliminated by the video of Brown's conduct in the store where he strong-armed a clerk while brazenly stealing merchandise, and the evidence of his attempt to disarm the cop who ultimately, and justifiably, shot him to death.

The fact is killing Michael Brown did the world a favor, because what is known about his character makes it quite clear that he would have harmed a lot of innocent, weaker people had he lived. But the way Black America has reacted to that event, combined with the rising level of Black-on-White violence, is unmistakable evidence that racial conflict in America is headed for a destructive outcome.

Again, you are a white man and you really know nothing about back culture. The only delusion -peddlers and excuse mongering race pimps are whites like you. Look at what you post.it tells the story. Thee is no rising level of back on white violence hat's a lie and it's all part of your race primping. You don't knw anything about Browns character. There was no evidence of him disarming the cop wen he was murdered. Everything you say here is a lie.

 

[Paul Essien]

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You wrote "The absolute numbers are considerably different because Blacks are only 13% of country. In 2008 out-of-wedlock births were:"
BUT The absolute numbers indicate that as a percent of total population this is the FACT:
A) Blacks in 2008 constituted 37.3 million of the population and 1.2% out of wedlock births!
B) Whites in 2008 constituted 227.7 million but less then .3% of the wedlock births
Now you tell me which group had the largest percent of their population had the largest number of the out of wedlock births???
hmmm... seems the "black and white" facts are BLACKS had in 2008 4 times the number of out of wedlock births in proportion their population!
Historical racial and ethnic demographics of the United States - Wikipedia
Just one of SEVERAL facts your biased "comments" were wrong in totality!

I'll try and explain more clearly in case you misunderstood

The American illegitimacy rate by race in 2008 (Hispanics separate):

• 72.3% Blacks
• 65.8% Natives
• 52.6% Hispanic
• 28.7% Whites
• 16.9% Asians

These are states you look at. These are the stats you base your arguments on. This is where the “Over 70% of Black children are now born out of wedlock!” come from

The data is confusing. So I will try and explain it as clearly as possible.

When guys like you argue that there is an “illegitimacy” crisis in black America and that rising out-of-wedlock birthrates are the real cause of black folks’ problems, you demonstrate an inability to actually understand statistics.

The fact is, the birth rate for unmarried black women (births per 1000 such women of childbearing age) is dropping, not rising. For black teens, the birth rate has fallen by half since 1970 and is now at its lowest point ever, and for black women generally the out-of-wedlock birthrate is down by about a third in that same period of time.

It is true that the percentage of black births that are out-of-wedlock as a share of all black births has risen. OK ? Nearly doubling since 1970, and now stands at just over 72 percent.. OK.?

Both of these things are true: declining birth rates and fertility rates for unmarried black women (i.e., unmarried black women are increasingly being more and more “responsible” in conservative terms, not less), and also a climbing share of out-of-wedlock kids as a share of all black kids born.

The reason for these seemingly contradictory trends can best be explained like this:

Imagine a community of 100,000 people of childbearing age (50,000 men and 50,000 women), where half the men and women are married and half of each are single. Of the 25,000 single women, imagine that 500 had babies this year. This would represent a very small number, and an unmarried birth rate of 20 babies per 1000 women. You could also represent this by saying that only about 2% of single women in this community would have a baby out of wedlock this year, since most women would have only one child per year, and so the 500 babies born likely represent roughly 500 of the 25,000 women too.

But let’s say that that same year, for whatever reason, only 200 of the married women gave birth. In that case, 500 of the 700 babies born, or over 71 percent of all babies born in this community would be out-of-wedlock!

Oh my God! Send out the cultural police! But note, this result would not in any way reflect the widespread misbehavior of single women and their male companions — after all 98 percent of all unmarried women are not giving birth — but rather, it would reflect the fact that married couples were simply having even fewer kids than single women were.

And in fact, that is what has happened in the U.S. Even though single black women have cut back on how many babies they have while unmarried, married black women have cut back even further. So if single black women have reduced their birthrates by a third, but married couples have cut theirs by over half, or even two-thirds (which is the case), then obviously the percentage of births in the black community that are out-of-wedlock will rise.

But guys like you seize upon the latter of these facts while ignoring the context that explains it, is that your argument is first and foremost that black folks need to stop having babies out of wedlock. But the data says they are already cutting back on that, and dramatically so.

And since black single women are already cutting back on childbearing, there is only one other way that that 72 percent number could be brought down. But it is unlikely that ur going to push for it: namely, if black couples started having 5, 6, even 10 kids each, that number (the percentage of black births that are out of wedlock as a percentage of all black births) would be cut in half within a year or so.

So, since single black women are already behaving increasingly “responsibly” in terms of their childbearing behavior, how about it white man?

How about white people push for a massive increase in married black womens’ fertility ?

Maybe pass out fertility drugs so they can have triplets and quads ? Maybe encourage black women to go the “full Dugger family” and have 20?

That way, the share of out-of-wedlock births in the black community can plummet and everyone can stop talking about shit they don’t understand. Oh, and the black population would also skyrocket, so…

Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Using statistics to “prove” the pathology arguments as wrong. This can become just as spurious as using statistics to prove or invalidate any other black pathology argument. When I see all sorts of statistics manipulated to prove a point (without the usual rigour of a scientific study) I start to read things with a grain of salt, esp. when I know they could be manipulated to prove a different point.

 

[Paul Essien]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Blacks had to fight a long civil wars for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

.The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this continent and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And you act like as if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

And who creates those crime statistics ? The white supremacists.

If you are participating in a statistical research project that demonstrates that some "racial" groups are more violent than others, then yes, you are more likely than not involved in a racist enterprise.

If this scientific research then has the most curious and interesting repeated finding that blacks are almost always the most violent group, then you are most certainly involved in a project which furthers white supremacy.

If you look around the room and your fellow researchers who are making this amazing discovery are almost all white, then you are most definitely involved in a white racist project.

If one is cool with that then so be it; do not run away from the implications of that choice.

Michael A. Wood Jr was a retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014

He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.

The Police :

• Racially profile.·
• Lie.
• Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
• Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
• See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
• Use unspoken arrest quota.
• Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
• Do not care much about the US Constitution.
• Are badly trained.
• Fear Black males.

He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.

When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.

Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. The police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people

He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests – like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.

Or read about white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.

Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .

When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.

After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.

His father gets him out. After that Schoolcraft went to live at his father’s house hundreds of miles away. Despite the distance, New York police officers have appeared at his door ten times so far.

That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with theRamparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.

The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police deal in drugs THEMSELVES. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police murder those who file complaints against them

Sometimes the police are told not to enforce drug laws against white people

But if you want to act like a 10 naive year kid and swallow everything the police tell you about crime stats, that's on you.

And black on black crime, especially murder, is monumental compared to anything the police have ever done to them.

If I said to you that there was racism in 1892. You'd agree. Right ?

Well more black people were killed in 2016 by the police than they were in 1892

But we don't have a problem.with the Police. Right ?

But - Yes - More black people are killed by black people than by the Police.

True. But guess what ?

That would have been true 100 years ago.

But would the black on black crime argument been a good reason to excuse for the KKK hangings of black men ?

No. So why is it now ?

The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around. Your argument is like telling Breast Cancer Support Groups not to bother with that cancer and focus on Lung Cancer because that is the biggest cancer killer.

When ISIS killed whites in Paris or 9-11 Twin Towers you did not hear people say "Well, more white people kill white people, than muslims""

But that would have been just as true.

The police are held to a higher standard. That's why police killings of black people cause the commotion that they do. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.

It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"

With great power comes greater responsibility, themz the rules.

These executions are NOT just a police problem.

Prosecutors
Grand Juries
Judges
Biased Media& DA’s

are ALL complicit

As Malcolm X said

Overall, your bullshit-filled rant proves only one thing: that I am right. Blacks have huge cultural and values problems. Inner-city, and other black thugs live only to create problems, commit crimes, avoid work, hustle the welfare system, and contribute NOTHING to this country.

And still, YOU want to deflect, and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

That is what you doing. It's you the one who is shfiting the blame onto black people.

You are trying to move the argument from what whites do to what you think black people do. At one level it is just a cheap attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from what whites do. But at a deeper level it is also a moral argument – directed not at me but at whites themselves.

White Americans know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. Since they want to believe they are good people they either fight against that inequality – or make up excuses. Making up excuses is way easier.

If they can blame blacks , then they have no reason to feel guilty at all. Then they can still see themselves as good people. Case closed!

So in the end we know all about what is wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.

for the widespread negative black behavior,

You need to look in your own back yard.

• White people are more likely to use heavier drugs than black people that is.according to data
• White men are more likely as black men to die from an opioid overdose (Heroin) and white women were more likely to die from such an overdose as black women

But can you also explain these questions about your white people

• Can you explain how way more white women smoke cigarettes while pregnant, a rate that is way higher than the rate for black women ?
• Can you explain how white women were more likely than black women to drink alcohol when pregnant ?
• Can you explain how whites were more likely than blacks to have binged in the past month ? Among younger whites the problem is even worse.
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to then get behind the wheel of a car and attempt to drive ?
• Can you explain how Whites are more likely than blacks to drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to smoke cancer-causing cigarettes ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to text while driving ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to vomit or take laxatives so as to lose weight ?
• Can you explain how whites are less likely to have used a condom ?
• Can you explain how whites are so disrespectful to their parents? Look at the evidence
• Can you explain why white college students are far more likely to hookup with multiple sexual partners than black students
• Can you explain how white high school students are more likely than black students to carry weapons ? And young white men more likely than members of any other group to do so ?
• Can you explain to me how that whites end there own lives at a far higher rate than blacks

and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

So let me get this straight.

So whites are not expected to “take responsibility” for the racism that has skewed the opportunity structure in their favor, historically and still today.

I’ve always found it funny how whites want to view responsibility as a one-way street:

They need to clean up their act, but we don’t need to do anything,

How can black folks take responsibility for the fact that even when we have the same level of education and experience, we still are paid less than white people and more likely to be unable to find a job ?

How can black folks take responsibility for the fact that black men are more likely to have our cars stopped and searched for drugs, even though whites are twice as likely to actually have drugs on them when they’re stopped?

Black and brown poor folks are doing self-help all the time. We have to. We have enough experience with white institutions to know that such institutions have never done much to improve our situation and nothing at all unless it was demanded.

But I see very little self-reflection in the white community. Rarely do u spend time dealing with your own internalized racial biases and which only u have any control over, since the folks doing the discriminating are white like u.

.But I'm to believe that ppl like you holding these biases would nonetheless be able to fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow these stereotypes to which you show in this post would play no role in your evaluations of blk ppl in the real world ?

And sick of their huge contributions to crime, riots, looting

Looting ? Please.

White people have looted whole continents.

But on another scale I've always noticed that white crime (much like white collar crime, art theft, and cyber crime) is often treated like something “cool” or “edgy”. Italian Mafia is used to show how stylish and “mysterious” white gangsters are ? Goodfellas ? Sopranos anyone? Biker gangs ? Game of Thrones ? Bonnie and Clyde ?

Romanticism plays a big part of it. That's the reason why people don't demonize the mafia and white crime. It shows how white crooks are envied for their slyness and intelligence.

Bernie Madoff (He who stole 50 million) was described as a criminal mastermind. I often wonder if Madoff was a black guy named Jerome Jenkins, how long would he have gotten away with it ?

Madoff; one of the biggest criminals ever and yet his doings are seen somehow “victimless” even though he stole billions which means tens of thousands lost their pention funds, money, houses, life savings etc.

And sick of their huge contributions to riots

Thanks to social media, many people on Twitter exposed the media bias. Maybe it’s time we actually start talking about the careless behavior of white youth. Perhaps we need to examine white-on-white violence, which should be a part of the mainstream’s lexicon. Until then, whenever I see a gang of young white males coming down the street, I may start walking on the other side for safety reasons.

White kids riot all the time with no negative stank to implicate them collectively afters. Its quite often what some white college kids do. NCAA tourneys, drinking holidays, house parties, break-ins into former NFL player's houses (look it up).

I joked back when the Ferguson protests began after the Mike Brown slaying that some Masters social science student could make a mighty fine thesis just observing their propensity to tear stuff up each and every St. Patrick's Day (Again, Google "St. Patrick's Day riot" and see what I mean).

This is one clear example of how media supports white supremacy through its different treatment of social events. Whites rioting is either benign or explainable: "oh its just young people acting out" after a football game or festival. It happens.

The rare instance of blacks "rioting," and they are rare versus the number of white riots -- but you'd never know that based on media reporting, are presented as unexplainable

Welcome to America where white people can start shit for insignificant reasons and not be seen as a problem while black people can gather peacefully to fight a problem that threatens their very existence and be portrayed as the problem

 

[Meathead]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Zimbabwe was under colonial rule for decades and is just recently just getting out from under Englands and America's foot on their necks. So internal conflict is expected.

So the fact that you bring up Zimbabwe is extremely unnerving.

The black population has been on the brink of starvation there for decades because the white colonial thugs pushed just about all of the blacks (who were the majority of the population) on to about 3 percent of the fertile land.

I'm sick and tired of seeing people express sympathy for the whites who benefited from an oppressive regeme and trivialize the plight of blacks in that country.

Most people seem quite smiiten with the romantic notion of the white farmers in Africa who were just trying to make due (let's ignore the part about them staying afloat by standing on the necks of the collective indigenous population).

The blacks had to fight a long civil war for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

The system of Aparheid shows that blacks have always been treated the worst under white colonial rule. In South Africa and Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), whites were first class citizens, Asians and people of mixed blood were second class citizens, and blacks were third class citizens.

The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

Furthermore, regarding Africa...... Africa had it's most valuble recource, HUMAM BEINGS, stolen from them. Do that to Japan or china (Or these countries your claming are so great) or any country and see how far behind the rest of the world they will be.

Funny that this "Asians are doing really well" thing I keep hearing is never said by Asians themselves. Why is that ?

I always question the source. I know you tried to get yourself as many african websites as you could to give the impression that this is not racist or biased but just because it's called zimbabwenation.com or mgafrica.com does not mean that white people are not behind it.

The themes are African, the aesthetic is African but the ownership is 100% White.

Economic apartheid gets less press, it appears less evil. Unlike pure apartheid that was a clear evil on global display, economic apartheid continues and generates less concern because people see a Black government.

Zimbaweans faced generations of generations of lost of vital skill banks. So while Europeans were getting access to qualifications and then acquiring years of experience and special knowledge in nation building sectors, farming etc these opportunities were denied to African people.

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this country and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And now you want to point the finger at generations of people who were damaged and say “why don’t you run your country better ?” As if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

It will take years for this current generation to acquire the experience to become leaders in these fields. And with the de skilled generation dynamic no forced legislation of “Black Empowerment” could reverse the European domination of all key sectors within Zimbabwe.

Even if the government favors giving loans to African business people but if these people are skill deficient, a lot of wastage and failure will occur, to the cheer of guys like you who believe Africans are incapable of self-governance.

The balance between business ownership, education and skill experience will determine the pace of true progress. If one of these things is out of balance the fragile process servicing progress will be arrested, because education without job opportunity doesn't create skill experience, education with skill experience limits the ascension of Africans within industry and will forever see them answering to a skilled European boss.

More Africans in European run companies will not deliver justice. More African presenters on television answering to European writers and executives will fall short of reflecting diversity and restoring justice

Snatching wealth from people on its own will not fix the problems of economic apartheid in Zimbabwe. However, conditions on the ground must be challenged and changed to restore the imbalance of Apartheid.

Economic transfer cannot happen by a forced process because it requires as its core sincerely skilled people who are able to operate at an exceptional standard.

Symbolic handing over of keys of industry will do nothing for the future of Africa.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.




You saw how got rid of
That's what white supremacy means, supreme. That does not mean white people are better.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

And who creates those crime statistics ? The white supremacists

Michael A. Wood Jr was a retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014

He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.

The Police :

• Racially profile.·
• Lie.
• Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
• Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
• See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
• Use unspoken arrest quota.
• Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
• Do not care much about the US Constitution.
• Are badly trained.
• Fear Black males.

He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.

When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.

Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. The police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people

He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests – like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.

Or read about white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.

Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .

When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.

After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.

His father gets him out. After that Schoolcraft went to live at his father’s house hundreds of miles away. Despite the distance, New York police officers have appeared at his door ten times so far.

That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with theRamparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.

The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police deal in drugs THEMSELVES. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police murder those who file complaints against them

Sometimes the police are told not to enforce drug laws against white people

But if you want to act like a 10 naive year kid and swallow everything the police tell you about crime stats, that's on you.

And black on black crime, especially murder, is monumental compared to anything the police have ever done to them.

If I said to you that there was racism in 1892. You'd agree. Right ?

Well more black people were killed in 2016 by the police than they were in 1892

But we don't have a problem.with the Police. Right ?

But - Yes - More black people are killed by black people than by the Police.

True. But guess what ?

That would have been true 100 years ago.

But would the black on black crime argument been a good reason to excuse for the KKK hangings of black men ?

No. So why is it now ?

The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around. Your argument is like telling Breast Cancer Support Groups not to bother with that cancer and focus on Lung Cancer because that is the biggest cancer killer.

When ISIS killed whites in Paris or 9-11 Twin Towers you did not hear people say "Well, more white people kill white people, than muslims""

But that would have been just as true.

The police are held to a higher standard. That's why police killings of black people cause the commotion that they do. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.

It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"

With great power comes greater responsibility, themz the rules.

These executions are NOT just a police problem.

Prosecutors
Grand Juries
Judges
Biased Media& DA’s

are ALL complicit

As Malcolm X said

Overall, your bullshit-filled rant proves only one thing: that I am right. Blacks have huge cultural and values problems. Inner-city, and other black thugs live only to create problems, commit crimes, avoid work, hustle the welfare system, and contribute NOTHING to this country.

And still, YOU want to deflect, and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

That is what you doing. It's you the one who is shfiting the blame onto black people.

You are trying to move the argument from what whites do to what you think black people do. At one level it is just a cheap attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from what whites do. But at a deeper level it is also a moral argument – directed not at me but at whites themselves.

White Americans know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. Since they want to believe they are good people they either fight against that inequality – or make up excuses. Making up excuses is way easier.

If they can blame blacks , then they have no reason to feel guilty at all. Then they can still see themselves as good people. Case closed!

So in the end we know all about what is wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.

for the widespread negative black behavior,

You need to look in your own back yard.

• White people are more likely to use heavier drugs than black people that is.according to data
• White men are more likely as black men to die from an opioid overdose (Heroin) and white women were more likely to die from such an overdose as black women

But can you also explain these questions about your white people

• Can you explain how way more white women smoke cigarettes while pregnant, a rate that is way higher than the rate for black women ?
• Can you explain how white women were more likely than black women to drink alcohol when pregnant ?
• Can you explain how whites were more likely than blacks to have binged in the past month ? Among younger whites the problem is even worse.
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to then get behind the wheel of a car and attempt to drive ?
• Can you explain how Whites are more likely than blacks to drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to smoke cancer-causing cigarettes ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to text while driving ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to vomit or take laxatives so as to lose weight ?
• Can you explain how whites are less likely to have used a condom ?
• Can you explain how whites are so disrespectful to their parents? Look at the evidence
• Can you explain why white college students are far more likely to hookup with multiple sexual partners than black students
• Can you explain how white high school students are more likely than black students to carry weapons ? And young white men more likely than members of any other group to do so ?
• Can you explain to me how that whites end there own lives at a far higher rate than blacks

and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

So let me get this straight.

So whites are not expected to “take responsibility” for the racism that has skewed the opportunity structure in their favor, historically and still today.

I’ve always found it funny how whites want to view responsibility as a one-way street:

They need to clean up their act, but we don’t need to do anything,

Tell me How can black folks take responsibility for the fact that even when we have the same level of education and experience, we still are paid less than white?
and are more likely to be unable to find a job? How can black folks take responsibility for the fact that black men are twice as likely to have their cars stopped and searched for drugs, even though whites are twice as likely to actually have drugs on them when we’re stopped?

Black and brown poor folks are doing self-help all the time. We have to. We have enough experience with white institutions to know that such institutions have never done much to improve our situation and nothing at all unless it was demanded.

But I see very little self-reflection in the white community. Rarely do u spend time dealing with your own internalized racial biases and which only u have any control over, since the folks doing the discriminating are white like u.

.But I'm to believe that ppl like you holding these biases would nonetheless be able to fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow these stereotypes to which you show in this post would play no role in your evaluations of blk ppl in the real world ?

And sick of their huge contributions to crime, riots, looting

Looting ? Please.

White people have looted whole continents.

But on another scale I've always noticed that white crime (much like white collar crime, art theft, and cyber crime) is often treated like something “cool” or “edgy”. Italian Mafia is used to show how stylish and “mysterious” white gangsters are ? Goodfellas ? Sopranos anyone? Biker gangs ? Game of Thrones ? Bonnie and Clyde ?

Romanticism plays a big part of it. That's the reason why people don't demonize the mafia and white crime. It shows how white crooks are envied for their slyness and intelligence.

Bernie Madoff (He who stole 50 million) was described as a criminal mastermind. I often wonder if Madoff was a black guy named Jerome Jenkins, how long would he have gotten away with it ?

Madoff; one of the biggest criminals ever and yet his doings are seen somehow “victimless” even though he stole billions which means tens of thousands lost their pention funds, money, houses, life savings etc.

And sick of their huge contributions to riots

Thanks to social media, many people on Twitter exposed the media bias. Maybe it’s time we actually start talking about the careless behavior of white youth. Perhaps we need to examine white-on-white violence, which should be a part of the mainstream’s lexicon. Until then, whenever I see a gang of young white males coming down the street, I may start walking on the other side for safety reasons.

White kids riot all the time with no negative stank to implicate them collectively afters. Its quite often what some white college kids do. NCAA tourneys, drinking holidays, house parties, break-ins into former NFL player's houses (look it up).

Hell, I had joked back when the Ferguson protests began after the Brown slaying that some Masters social science student could make a mighty fine thesis just observing their propensity to tear stuff up each and every St. Patrick's Day (Again, Google "St. Patrick's Day riot" and see what I mean).

This is one clear example of how media supports white supremacy through its different treatment of social events. Whites rioting is either benign or explainable: "oh its just young people acting out" after a football game or festival. It happens.

The rare instance of blacks "rioting," and they are rare versus the number of white riots -- but you'd never know that based on media reporting, are presented as unexplainable

Welcome to America where white people can start shit for insignificant reasons and not be seen as a problem while black people can gather peacefully to fight a problem that threatens their very existence and be portrayed as the problem

We got it. You think black failure is because of racism. Long-winded whining is still whining. Stop whining.

 

[Paul Essien]

We got it. You think black failure is because of racism. Long-winded whining is still whining. Stop whining.

We live in a global system of white supremacy and that system dominates all areas of human interactions. Labour. Laws. Economics, Education. Politics. Sex. War and Religion.

So the past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't expect you to feel for black people the way I do. The same way I don't feel for white people the way you do.

 

[Meathead]

We got it. You think black failure is because of racism. Long-winded whining is still whining. Stop whining.

We live in a global system of white supremacy and that system dominates all areas of human interactions. Labour. Laws. Economics, Education. Politics. Sex. War and Religion.

So the past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't expect you to feel for black people the way I do. The same way I don't feel for white people the way you do.

Black failure is the fault of whites. Blacks good - Whites bad.We got it. A bit tired though.

 

[Taz]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Blacks had to fight a long civil wars for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

.The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this continent and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And you act like as if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

And who creates those crime statistics ? The white supremacists.

If you are participating in a statistical research project that demonstrates that some "racial" groups are more violent than others, then yes, you are more likely than not involved in a racist enterprise.

If this scientific research then has the most curious and interesting repeated finding that blacks are almost always the most violent group, then you are most certainly involved in a project which furthers white supremacy.

If you look around the room and your fellow researchers who are making this amazing discovery are almost all white, then you are most definitely involved in a white racist project.

If one is cool with that then so be it; do not run away from the implications of that choice.

Michael A. Wood Jr was a retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014

He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.

The Police :

• Racially profile.·
• Lie.
• Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
• Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
• See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
• Use unspoken arrest quota.
• Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
• Do not care much about the US Constitution.
• Are badly trained.
• Fear Black males.

He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.

When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.

Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. The police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people

He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests – like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.

Or read about white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.

Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .

When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.

After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.

His father gets him out. After that Schoolcraft went to live at his father’s house hundreds of miles away. Despite the distance, New York police officers have appeared at his door ten times so far.

That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with theRamparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.

The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police deal in drugs THEMSELVES. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police murder those who file complaints against them

Sometimes the police are told not to enforce drug laws against white people

But if you want to act like a 10 naive year kid and swallow everything the police tell you about crime stats, that's on you.

And black on black crime, especially murder, is monumental compared to anything the police have ever done to them.

If I said to you that there was racism in 1892. You'd agree. Right ?

Well more black people were killed in 2016 by the police than they were in 1892

But we don't have a problem.with the Police. Right ?

But - Yes - More black people are killed by black people than by the Police.

True. But guess what ?

That would have been true 100 years ago.

But would the black on black crime argument been a good reason to excuse for the KKK hangings of black men ?

No. So why is it now ?

The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around. Your argument is like telling Breast Cancer Support Groups not to bother with that cancer and focus on Lung Cancer because that is the biggest cancer killer.

When ISIS killed whites in Paris or 9-11 Twin Towers you did not hear people say "Well, more white people kill white people, than muslims""

But that would have been just as true.

The police are held to a higher standard. That's why police killings of black people cause the commotion that they do. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.

It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"

With great power comes greater responsibility, themz the rules.

These executions are NOT just a police problem.

Prosecutors
Grand Juries
Judges
Biased Media& DA’s

are ALL complicit

As Malcolm X said

Overall, your bullshit-filled rant proves only one thing: that I am right. Blacks have huge cultural and values problems. Inner-city, and other black thugs live only to create problems, commit crimes, avoid work, hustle the welfare system, and contribute NOTHING to this country.

And still, YOU want to deflect, and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

That is what you doing. It's you the one who is shfiting the blame onto black people.

You are trying to move the argument from what whites do to what you think black people do. At one level it is just a cheap attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from what whites do. But at a deeper level it is also a moral argument – directed not at me but at whites themselves.

White Americans know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. Since they want to believe they are good people they either fight against that inequality – or make up excuses. Making up excuses is way easier.

If they can blame blacks , then they have no reason to feel guilty at all. Then they can still see themselves as good people. Case closed!

So in the end we know all about what is wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.

for the widespread negative black behavior,

You need to look in your own back yard.

• White people are more likely to use heavier drugs than black people that is.according to data
• White men are more likely as black men to die from an opioid overdose (Heroin) and white women were more likely to die from such an overdose as black women

But can you also explain these questions about your white people

• Can you explain how way more white women smoke cigarettes while pregnant, a rate that is way higher than the rate for black women ?
• Can you explain how white women were more likely than black women to drink alcohol when pregnant ?
• Can you explain how whites were more likely than blacks to have binged in the past month ? Among younger whites the problem is even worse.
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to then get behind the wheel of a car and attempt to drive ?
• Can you explain how Whites are more likely than blacks to drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to smoke cancer-causing cigarettes ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to text while driving ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to vomit or take laxatives so as to lose weight ?
• Can you explain how whites are less likely to have used a condom ?
• Can you explain how whites are so disrespectful to their parents? Look at the evidence
• Can you explain why white college students are far more likely to hookup with multiple sexual partners than black students
• Can you explain how white high school students are more likely than black students to carry weapons ? And young white men more likely than members of any other group to do so ?
• Can you explain to me how that whites end there own lives at a far higher rate than blacks

and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

So let me get this straight.

So whites are not expected to “take responsibility” for the racism that has skewed the opportunity structure in their favor, historically and still today.

I’ve always found it funny how whites want to view responsibility as a one-way street:

They need to clean up their act, but we don’t need to do anything,

How can black folks take responsibility for the fact that even when we have the same level of education and experience, we still are paid less than white people and more likely to be unable to find a job ?

How can black folks take responsibility for the fact that black men are more likely to have our cars stopped and searched for drugs, even though whites are twice as likely to actually have drugs on them when they’re stopped?

Black and brown poor folks are doing self-help all the time. We have to. We have enough experience with white institutions to know that such institutions have never done much to improve our situation and nothing at all unless it was demanded.

But I see very little self-reflection in the white community. Rarely do u spend time dealing with your own internalized racial biases and which only u have any control over, since the folks doing the discriminating are white like u.

.But I'm to believe that ppl like you holding these biases would nonetheless be able to fairly evaluate black job applicants, or potential tenants, or loan applicants; that somehow these stereotypes to which you show in this post would play no role in your evaluations of blk ppl in the real world ?

And sick of their huge contributions to crime, riots, looting

Looting ? Please.

White people have looted whole continents.

But on another scale I've always noticed that white crime (much like white collar crime, art theft, and cyber crime) is often treated like something “cool” or “edgy”. Italian Mafia is used to show how stylish and “mysterious” white gangsters are ? Goodfellas ? Sopranos anyone? Biker gangs ? Game of Thrones ? Bonnie and Clyde ?

Romanticism plays a big part of it. That's the reason why people don't demonize the mafia and white crime. It shows how white crooks are envied for their slyness and intelligence.

Bernie Madoff (He who stole 50 million) was described as a criminal mastermind. I often wonder if Madoff was a black guy named Jerome Jenkins, how long would he have gotten away with it ?

Madoff; one of the biggest criminals ever and yet his doings are seen somehow “victimless” even though he stole billions which means tens of thousands lost their pention funds, money, houses, life savings etc.

And sick of their huge contributions to riots

Thanks to social media, many people on Twitter exposed the media bias. Maybe it’s time we actually start talking about the careless behavior of white youth. Perhaps we need to examine white-on-white violence, which should be a part of the mainstream’s lexicon. Until then, whenever I see a gang of young white males coming down the street, I may start walking on the other side for safety reasons.

White kids riot all the time with no negative stank to implicate them collectively afters. Its quite often what some white college kids do. NCAA tourneys, drinking holidays, house parties, break-ins into former NFL player's houses (look it up).

I joked back when the Ferguson protests began after the Mike Brown slaying that some Masters social science student could make a mighty fine thesis just observing their propensity to tear stuff up each and every St. Patrick's Day (Again, Google "St. Patrick's Day riot" and see what I mean).

This is one clear example of how media supports white supremacy through its different treatment of social events. Whites rioting is either benign or explainable: "oh its just young people acting out" after a football game or festival. It happens.

The rare instance of blacks "rioting," and they are rare versus the number of white riots -- but you'd never know that based on media reporting, are presented as unexplainable

Welcome to America where white people can start shit for insignificant reasons and not be seen as a problem while black people can gather peacefully to fight a problem that threatens their very existence and be portrayed as the problem

So how many more Cosby shows would TV need for you to not consider it racist?

Oprah's channel racist? I AGREE!!!!

 

[GHook93]

Caucasian male here....generalizing ofcourse.
Us quality Caucasians tend to condemn and distance ourselves from the white criminals, white trash, white drug addicts and just overall poor quality Caucasians among us...we do this not only because they are poor quality humans but also because we are mindful that we are and can be grouped in with the common behaviors of our majority...like it or not generalizing and stereotyping isn't going away....It seems like more times than not the quality blacks are too quick to make excuses for the lesser quality and almost never condemn their piers who make them look bad...in fact, I've even seen them almost support the behaviors. Isn't this constant excuse making for bad behavior basically giving the youth a justification for their actions and behaviors? How will they ever hold themselves accountable if it's always someone else or another cause that made them do it. Aren't you in a sense condoning such bad behaviors by not condemning?
It seems blacks only follow and listen to blacks so until well respected blacks who are basically mentors to the youth...such as the Drake and Kanye's condemn bad behaviors can't we be pretty certain that X cycles will continue?

When well respected blacks criticize the black community they get call Uncle Tom’s and are dismissed by the black community as racists.


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[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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You wrote "The absolute numbers are considerably different because Blacks are only 13% of country. In 2008 out-of-wedlock births were:"
BUT The absolute numbers indicate that as a percent of total population this is the FACT:
A) Blacks in 2008 constituted 37.3 million of the population and 1.2% out of wedlock births!
B) Whites in 2008 constituted 227.7 million but less then .3% of the wedlock births
Now you tell me which group had the largest percent of their population had the largest number of the out of wedlock births???
hmmm... seems the "black and white" facts are BLACKS had in 2008 4 times the number of out of wedlock births in proportion their population!
Historical racial and ethnic demographics of the United States - Wikipedia
Just one of SEVERAL facts your biased "comments" were wrong in totality!

I'll try and explain more clearly in case you misunderstood

The American illegitimacy rate by race in 2008 (Hispanics separate):

• 72.3% Blacks
• 65.8% Natives
• 52.6% Hispanic
• 28.7% Whites
• 16.9% Asians

These are states you look at. These are the stats you base your arguments on. This is where the “Over 70% of Black children are now born out of wedlock!” come from

The data is confusing. So I will try and explain it as clearly as possible.

When guys like you argue that there is an “illegitimacy” crisis in black America and that rising out-of-wedlock birthrates are the real cause of black folks’ problems, you demonstrate an inability to actually understand statistics.

The fact is, the birth rate for unmarried black women (births per 1000 such women of childbearing age) is dropping, not rising. For black teens, the birth rate has fallen by half since 1970 and is now at its lowest point ever, and for black women generally the out-of-wedlock birthrate is down by about a third in that same period of time.

It is true that the percentage of black births that are out-of-wedlock as a share of all black births has risen. OK ? Nearly doubling since 1970, and now stands at just over 72 percent.. OK.?

Both of these things are true: declining birth rates and fertility rates for unmarried black women (i.e., unmarried black women are increasingly being more and more “responsible” in conservative terms, not less), and also a climbing share of out-of-wedlock kids as a share of all black kids born.

The reason for these seemingly contradictory trends can best be explained like this:

Imagine a community of 100,000 people of childbearing age (50,000 men and 50,000 women), where half the men and women are married and half of each are single. Of the 25,000 single women, imagine that 500 had babies this year. This would represent a very small number, and an unmarried birth rate of 20 babies per 1000 women. You could also represent this by saying that only about 2% of single women in this community would have a baby out of wedlock this year, since most women would have only one child per year, and so the 500 babies born likely represent roughly 500 of the 25,000 women too.

But let’s say that that same year, for whatever reason, only 200 of the married women gave birth. In that case, 500 of the 700 babies born, or over 71 percent of all babies born in this community would be out-of-wedlock!

Oh my God! Send out the cultural police! But note, this result would not in any way reflect the widespread misbehavior of single women and their male companions — after all 98 percent of all unmarried women are not giving birth — but rather, it would reflect the fact that married couples were simply having even fewer kids than single women were.

And in fact, that is what has happened in the U.S. Even though single black women have cut back on how many babies they have while unmarried, married black women have cut back even further. So if single black women have reduced their birthrates by a third, but married couples have cut theirs by over half, or even two-thirds (which is the case), then obviously the percentage of births in the black community that are out-of-wedlock will rise.

But guys like you seize upon the latter of these facts while ignoring the context that explains it, is that your argument is first and foremost that black folks need to stop having babies out of wedlock. But the data says they are already cutting back on that, and dramatically so.

And since black single women are already cutting back on childbearing, there is only one other way that that 72 percent number could be brought down. But it is unlikely that ur going to push for it: namely, if black couples started having 5, 6, even 10 kids each, that number (the percentage of black births that are out of wedlock as a percentage of all black births) would be cut in half within a year or so.

So, since single black women are already behaving increasingly “responsibly” in terms of their childbearing behavior, how about it white man?

How about white people push for a massive increase in married black womens’ fertility ?

Maybe pass out fertility drugs so they can have triplets and quads ? Maybe encourage black women to go the “full Dugger family” and have 20?

That way, the share of out-of-wedlock births in the black community can plummet and everyone can stop talking about shit they don’t understand. Oh, and the black population would also skyrocket, so…

Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Using statistics to “prove” the pathology arguments as wrong. This can become just as spurious as using statistics to prove or invalidate any other black pathology argument. When I see all sorts of statistics manipulated to prove a point (without the usual rigour of a scientific study) I start to read things with a grain of salt, esp. when I know they could be manipulated to prove a different point.

Why do the illegitimacy rates fit 100% with racial IQ in the U.S.A?

The Bell Curve book supported this too.

But, it does make sense, those with higher intellects can plan ahead better, and that includes in their children planning.

Not to deny that there's some smart people with this problem, it just appears to be less common.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Blacks had to fight a long civil wars for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

.The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this continent and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And you act like as if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

White people have looted whole continents.

Well, it's a little harder for a people without wheels, sea faring vessels, or guns to loot whole continents.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Blacks had to fight a long civil wars for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

.The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this continent and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And you act like as if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

And who creates those crime statistics ? The white supremacists.

Not in Detroit, in Detroit the crime stats are obviously done by Blacks, the police chief of Detroit is Black, also the majority of the Police Force in Detroit is also Black.

Detroit still has off the chart murder rates.

Why?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Blacks had to fight a long civil wars for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

.The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this continent and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And you act like as if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

And who creates those crime statistics ? The white supremacists.

If you are participating in a statistical research project that demonstrates that some "racial" groups are more violent than others, then yes, you are more likely than not involved in a racist enterprise.

If this scientific research then has the most curious and interesting repeated finding that blacks are almost always the most violent group, then you are most certainly involved in a project which furthers white supremacy.

If you look around the room and your fellow researchers who are making this amazing discovery are almost all white, then you are most definitely involved in a white racist project.

If one is cool with that then so be it; do not run away from the implications of that choice.

Michael A. Wood Jr was a retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014

He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.

The Police :

• Racially profile.·
• Lie.
• Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
• Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
• See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
• Use unspoken arrest quota.
• Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
• Do not care much about the US Constitution.
• Are badly trained.
• Fear Black males.

He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.

When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.

Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. The police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people

He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests – like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.

Or read about white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.

Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .

When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.

After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.

His father gets him out. After that Schoolcraft went to live at his father’s house hundreds of miles away. Despite the distance, New York police officers have appeared at his door ten times so far.

That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with theRamparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.

The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police deal in drugs THEMSELVES. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police murder those who file complaints against them

Sometimes the police are told not to enforce drug laws against white people

But if you want to act like a 10 naive year kid and swallow everything the police tell you about crime stats, that's on you.

And black on black crime, especially murder, is monumental compared to anything the police have ever done to them.

If I said to you that there was racism in 1892. You'd agree. Right ?

Well more black people were killed in 2016 by the police than they were in 1892

But we don't have a problem.with the Police. Right ?

But - Yes - More black people are killed by black people than by the Police.

True. But guess what ?

That would have been true 100 years ago.

But would the black on black crime argument been a good reason to excuse for the KKK hangings of black men ?

No. So why is it now ?

The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around. Your argument is like telling Breast Cancer Support Groups not to bother with that cancer and focus on Lung Cancer because that is the biggest cancer killer.

When ISIS killed whites in Paris or 9-11 Twin Towers you did not hear people say "Well, more white people kill white people, than muslims""

But that would have been just as true.

The police are held to a higher standard. That's why police killings of black people cause the commotion that they do. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.

It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"

With great power comes greater responsibility, themz the rules.

These executions are NOT just a police problem.

Prosecutors
Grand Juries
Judges
Biased Media& DA’s

are ALL complicit

As Malcolm X said

Overall, your bullshit-filled rant proves only one thing: that I am right. Blacks have huge cultural and values problems. Inner-city, and other black thugs live only to create problems, commit crimes, avoid work, hustle the welfare system, and contribute NOTHING to this country.

And still, YOU want to deflect, and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

That is what you doing. It's you the one who is shfiting the blame onto black people.

You are trying to move the argument from what whites do to what you think black people do. At one level it is just a cheap attempt to change the subject, to draw attention away from what whites do. But at a deeper level it is also a moral argument – directed not at me but at whites themselves.

White Americans know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. Since they want to believe they are good people they either fight against that inequality – or make up excuses. Making up excuses is way easier.

If they can blame blacks , then they have no reason to feel guilty at all. Then they can still see themselves as good people. Case closed!

So in the end we know all about what is wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.

for the widespread negative black behavior,

You need to look in your own back yard.

• White people are more likely to use heavier drugs than black people that is.according to data
• White men are more likely as black men to die from an opioid overdose (Heroin) and white women were more likely to die from such an overdose as black women

But can you also explain these questions about your white people

• Can you explain how way more white women smoke cigarettes while pregnant, a rate that is way higher than the rate for black women ?
• Can you explain how white women were more likely than black women to drink alcohol when pregnant ?
• Can you explain how whites were more likely than blacks to have binged in the past month ? Among younger whites the problem is even worse.
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to then get behind the wheel of a car and attempt to drive ?
• Can you explain how Whites are more likely than blacks to drive under the influence of drugs or alcohol ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to smoke cancer-causing cigarettes ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely than blacks to text while driving ?
• Can you explain how whites are more likely to vomit or take laxatives so as to lose weight ?
• Can you explain how whites are less likely to have used a condom ?
• Can you explain how whites are so disrespectful to their parents? Look at the evidence
• Can you explain why white college students are far more likely to hookup with multiple sexual partners than black students
• Can you explain how white high school students are more likely than black students to carry weapons ? And young white men more likely than members of any other group to do so ?
• Can you explain to me how that whites end there own lives at a far higher rate than blacks

and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

But on another scale I've always noticed that white crime (much like white collar crime, art theft, and cyber crime) is often treated like something “cool” or “edgy”. Italian Mafia is used to show how stylish and “mysterious” white gangsters are ? Goodfellas ? Sopranos anyone? Biker gangs ? Game of Thrones ? Bonnie and Clyde ?

Romanticism plays a big part of it. That's the reason why people don't demonize the mafia and white crime. It shows how white crooks are envied for their slyness and intelligence.

Bernie Madoff (He who stole 50 million) was described as a criminal mastermind. I often wonder if Madoff was a black guy named Jerome Jenkins, how long would he have gotten away with it ?

Madoff; one of the biggest criminals ever and yet his doings are seen somehow “victimless” even though he stole billions which means tens of thousands lost their pention funds, money, houses, life savings etc.

Black gangsters are glorified / demonized just like Italian Mafia.

Madoff is glorified by how many?

It's mostly just kids who look at criminals as "Cool"
Guess which race of kids think criminals are even "Cooler"??????

Besides, Sicilians, and Ashkenazi Jews aren't real Whites... They only have traces of European DNA. (Aryan - Cro Magnon)

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

We got it. You think black failure is because of racism. Long-winded whining is still whining. Stop whining.

We live in a global system of white supremacy and that system dominates all areas of human interactions. Labour. Laws. Economics, Education. Politics. Sex. War and Religion.

So the past and present and future of black people concern me the most and in that history white people are the main evil. I don't expect you to feel for black people the way I do. The same way I don't feel for white people the way you do.

You can''t prove there's a global system of White supremacy, much less prove that this is making Africans fail.

Rhodesia was the top of Africa economically, Mugabe turned it into Zimbabwe, kicked out White farmers, and long behold it became the worst economically in Africa.

Why?

Had Mugabe not Monkey'd around, he probably could have held an economy more similar to South Africa, but he failed his objective.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

You are blaming blaming black people. You are accusing me of doing what you are doing.

You are blaming black people for white racism.

White racism is always presented as a case of a few bad apples, even though television itself is racist.

You suffer in the area of perception, it seems limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding.

I'm sure my observations seem like "junk-science" or "radical" interpretations. I've heard that before, but that's cool.

Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. But I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further. You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and calls the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

Save your money.

The white supremacists control all the money

If you really want to end brutality, do something about black on black crime

And how does black on black crime affect white people ?

and stop whining

To tell my nieces and nephews that they can be anything they want to be if they try hard enough is nice, but unless I warn them about the obstacles in their path. I’m ill-suiting them for the real world.

Downplaying racism backfires. If a person is led to believe that there are no obstacles in their way. They may overestimate the extent to which whites will recognize their hard work. On the other hand, by discussing those obstacles black people who are the targets of unjust treatment can steel themselves against the headwinds in their way.

And how come you don’t accuse whites in here of victimization ? They're always talking about how they are victims taxes, big government, immigrants, reverse discrimination, “radical Islam,” you name it.

Whites loves victimhood, so long as they’re the ones who get to choose which victims count

about whitey and white privilege and white supremacy.

You are the one blaming black people for racism.

Let's say I step on your foot.

You remove the foot. Right ?

Wrong. If you have a white supremacist mindset like you and SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak because you'd say this

I'm not stepping on your foot. How dare you accuse me of that and after all the nice things I have done for you !! You are just imagining it. You people do nothing but blame others and complain. Look at your IQ !! Look at your crime stats !! Look at your out-of wedlock birth !! You just hate white people, that is why you are saying that. Arab traders step on feet, did you know that? It is perfectly natural. But if I am stepping on your foot, then I am truly sorry, but it is not something I would ever do.

If these things bother you so much, move to fucking Africa. Then you'll have black privilege, etc.

The white supremacist controls Africa. There is no where on the planet you can go to and escape white supremacy. Saying "Go To Africa" is like a warden saying "Go to another prison"

Blacks had to fight a long civil wars for their freedom, and now they are being fought tooth and nail by the international community for wanting to take back the soil that is rightfully theirs.

This is what has happened every time that a black nation has sought independence. Patrice Lumumba, one of the greatest black leaders to emerge in this century, was assinated by the Belgians with the aid of US, so that the white international community could get the puppet government that they wanted in the Congo.

The constant interference on the part of certain powerful Flemmish interests are the principle reasons for all of the power struggles in the history of the Congo and the bloody civil war which is raging on now. The reason that black nations have not been able to prosper is the constant interference from outsiders who are still eager to exploit them.

.The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation.

White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa, and Africans have never seen any of the profits, how much revenue do you think blacks miss out on from the sale of De'Beers apartheid diamonds ?

But I guess to you, it matters not that, white people who run this continent and others never went into black inhabited countries and played their own form of monopoly.

Carving up the country in ways that it was never meant to be. Making countries where none existed before. They were ruling over these places subjugating the people all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles.

And you act like as if all it takes is to one day say, go free! And BAM! Those people are able to catch up in a heartbeat when white European countries have these countries in check in the first place.

Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people.

Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You wrote a mess. Your statistics are twisted, your deflections are everywhere, and you apparently have not read a newspaper in decades.

Imagine a person is unknowingly eating soup made of human flesh and you point out the fact to them, and prove it to them by fishing a finger out of the bowl. Everyone is going to deny being a knowing cannibal, but many of the people will also accuse you of lieing to them, not because they love eating human flesh but because their psyche won’t allow them to believe what they’ve done and plus so they continue eating soup made out of people on a regular basis, and benefit from eating the soup.

That's the mindset of the likes of you SobieskiSavedEurope, Meathead bgrouse, Taz, Correll, Mudda, healthmyths, abu afak

Crime statistics, alone, should convince even someone as delusional as you, that blacks commit MORE crimes percentage-wise than any other group in the entire country.

And who creates those crime statistics ? The white supremacists.

If you are participating in a statistical research project that demonstrates that some "racial" groups are more violent than others, then yes, you are more likely than not involved in a racist enterprise.

If this scientific research then has the most curious and interesting repeated finding that blacks are almost always the most violent group, then you are most certainly involved in a project which furthers white supremacy.

If you look around the room and your fellow researchers who are making this amazing discovery are almost all white, then you are most definitely involved in a white racist project.

If one is cool with that then so be it; do not run away from the implications of that choice.

Michael A. Wood Jr was a retired White American police sergeant he noted what he saw while serving on the Baltimore police force from 2003 to 2014

He confirmed much of what many Black Americans in Baltimore have long known.

The Police :

• Racially profile.·
• Lie.
• Do not see Black and poor people as real human being.
• Are an occupying force in Black ghettos.
• See the people there as the enemy, not as citizens to protect and serve.
• Use unspoken arrest quota.
• Each officer is expected to make so many arrests a month.
• Do not care much about the US Constitution.
• Are badly trained.
• Fear Black males.

He found that arrests and crime bear little relationship to each other.

When he was put on patrol in a well-to-do White neighbourhood he would go to a nearby Black neighbourhood to make his arrest quota.

Not because there was more crime there but because he could get away with arresting blacks for little things, like throwing a cigarette on the floor or playing basketball in the street. The police were told not to enforce drug laws against white people

He did not see himself as racist but took part in a racist institution by following orders. And these orders came from top. Who were supported by politicians who represented not the people but moneyed interests – like the prison-industrial complex that need 90% occupancy.

Or read about white cop Adrian Schoolcraft he logged how the NYPD used to manipulate crime stats. He recorded everything that was said with a small tape recorder while he was on duty.

Police officers were told how many people to stop and search. How many tickets to write. How many arrests to make every month. Meanwhile serious crime was not taken seriously. .

When he had a solid case he went to InternalAffairs. So the police arrived at his door with a dozen policemen. They tore his place apart. They threw him to the ground, beat him up and handcuffed him.

After six days missing his dad found his son at last in a mental ward in Queens NY, where the police had put him.

His father gets him out. After that Schoolcraft went to live at his father’s house hundreds of miles away. Despite the distance, New York police officers have appeared at his door ten times so far.

That's only touching the surface the police plant evidence on suspects to frame them, as with theRamparts division scandal or they protect drug runners.

The police deal in drugs themselves. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police deal in drugs THEMSELVES. Ever heard about New York’s infamous 75th precinct ?

The police murder those who file complaints against them

Sometimes the police are told not to enforce drug laws against white people

But if you want to act like a 10 naive year kid and swallow everything the police tell you about crime stats, that's on you.

And black on black crime, especially murder, is monumental compared to anything the police have ever done to them.

If I said to you that there was racism in 1892. You'd agree. Right ?

Well more black people were killed in 2016 by the police than they were in 1892

But we don't have a problem.with the Police. Right ?

But - Yes - More black people are killed by black people than by the Police.

True. But guess what ?

That would have been true 100 years ago.

But would the black on black crime argument been a good reason to excuse for the KKK hangings of black men ?

No. So why is it now ?

The black on black crime figure will always be higher that white on black. Why ? Because those are the people you live around. Your argument is like telling Breast Cancer Support Groups not to bother with that cancer and focus on Lung Cancer because that is the biggest cancer killer.

When ISIS killed whites in Paris or 9-11 Twin Towers you did not hear people say "Well, more white people kill white people, than muslims""

But that would have been just as true.

The police are held to a higher standard. That's why police killings of black people cause the commotion that they do. Because if you have the power to kill me, then you better believe I'm gonna hold you to a higher standard.

It's the same way a teacher can't be late often for their class and then turn around and say "Well some of you are late too"

With great power comes greater responsibility, themz the rules.

These executions are NOT just a police problem.

Prosecutors
Grand Juries
Judges
Biased Media& DA’s

are ALL complicit

As Malcolm X said

Overall, your bullshit-filled rant proves only one thing: that I am right. Blacks have huge cultural and values problems. Inner-city, and other black thugs live only to create problems, commit crimes, avoid work, hustle the welfare system, and contribute NOTHING to this country.

And still, YOU want to deflect, and blame whitey for the widespread negative black behavior,

White Americans know they live in an unequal society where whites benefit and blacks get screwed. Since they want to believe they are good people they either fight against that inequality – or make up excuses. Making up excuses is way easier.

If they can blame blacks , then they have no reason to feel guilty at all. Then they can still see themselves as good people. Case closed!

So in the end we know all about what is wrong with blacks, because that makes white people feel better about themselves, but very little is said about what is wrong with white people and the white racism built into society.

Having a Polish heritage, I'd strongly disagree that you are treated worse than us.

Polish Americans don't have any benefits, nor protections you people do, despite a good amount of discrimination against us.

Furthermore, minorities can be downright hostile to us as well, seeing us as the Whitey who owes them.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

I only answered your earlier post because I’ve seen over the past many months that you post the same rationalizations over and over again. Always blaming whitey, white supremacy, white privilege, everything and everyone else for black failure.
Blaming everyone else, that is, except blacks. In your mind (only) blacks are innocent little victims, they have never done anything wrong. They deserve to be coddled forever. “It’s whitey’s duty”. Lol...

Do you really want to end poverty? Yeah? Well get a fucking job. Keep the job. Do a good job.

The white supremacists control all the jobs

How do you figure the White supremacists control the jobs?

A part from a sizable amount of those controlling the jobs being Jews.

Why do these "White supremacists" hire non-Whites over Whites all the frigging time?

Illegal Mexicans imported, for low end jobs, Indian legals imported, for high end jobs, jobs exported to China, just to fill the whims of White Supremacists?

I call big time BS.

More like they are Greedy Capitalist Supremacists. LOL

 

[Paul Essien]

Why do the illegitimacy rates fit 100% with racial IQ in the U.S.A?

Because we live under a global system of white supremacy and in order to justify that system then the white supremacists are going to try and create scientific rationale to explain that system and if what you say is true. Then how do you explain the fact that that Iceland has the highest out of wedlocks births. Does not get more whiter than Iceland....right ?

The Bell Curve book supported this too.

That's like saying Ronald McDonald supported the idea that Vegetarians suck. What the fk do you expect them to say ?

They're white supremacists.

By the way I've read the whole book.

The crucial factor of the book is race. Even though they try to keep a credible appearance by somewhat admitting its arbitrary character they assume the reader to take the US concept of race as a universal given.

That’s how they can continue being vague about it throughout the book.

How are we to classify a person whose parents hail from Panama but whose ancestry is predominantly African? Is he a Latino? A black?

They wrote a book whose central point is the classification of humans by intelligence and allegedly significant IQ differences between races. They assume an innate genetic component in both race and IQ (without ever addressing it's lack of scientific proof!) but themselves fail to deliver a universal definition of the groupings they write about.

They're not stupid.

They know very well that the classifications they assume as given are not repeatable and applicable everywhere in the world.

The last chapter is the main piece were they basically suggests that we might as well stop making progress in further finding the true factors for all sorts of inequalities, injustice, conflicts, social problems and accept them as a natural law.

The chapter suggests that the authors have found the ultimate explanation of everything and any other research can halt now. But then, at the same time, they take a nostalgic look backwards to philosophies of long gone centuries where the unwashed masses of dumb sheep are at the mercy of an elite.

An elite who alone have the power to choose when they are generous and when they are punitive. Although the authors are trying so hard....so, so hard to be subtle and preserve the appearance of being unbiased all the way through.

The last chapter is where they show their true colours and the true purpose of the book.

Finally, if in an allegedly scientific context authors go through the effort of making apologetic statements and/or adding praising reviews, they annihilate their own credibility.

In no serious scientific publication will you find something like “So many non-believers were trying to discredit our work because they just don’t understand our “novelty ideas”

But, it does make sense, those with higher intellects can plan ahead better, and that includes in their children planning.

Once again. Look at the vagueness. When you say "Those"...who do you refer to ? What do you mean when you say "Higher intellects" ?

The Unabomber was a certified genius. He would've probably would score highly on just about any standardized test you chose to give them. And what of it ?

Not to deny that there's some smart people with this problem, it just appears to be less common.

What do you mean by smart person ?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Why do the illegitimacy rates fit 100% with racial IQ in the U.S.A?

Because we live under a global system of white supremacy and in order to justify that system then the white supremacists are going to try and create scientific rationale to explain that system and if what you say is true. Then how do you explain the fact that that Iceland has the highest out of wedlocks births. Does not get more whiter than Iceland....right ?

The Bell Curve book supported this too.

That's like saying Ronald McDonald supported the idea that Vegetarians suck. What the fk do you expect them to say ?

They're white supremacists.

By the way I've read the whole book.

The crucial factor of the book is race. Even though they try to keep a credible appearance by somewhat admitting its arbitrary character they assume the reader to take the US concept of race as a universal given.

That’s how they can continue being vague about it throughout the book.

How are we to classify a person whose parents hail from Panama but whose ancestry is predominantly African? Is he a Latino? A black?

They wrote a book whose central point is the classification of humans by intelligence and allegedly significant IQ differences between races. They assume an innate genetic component in both race and IQ (without ever addressing it's lack of scientific proof!) but themselves fail to deliver a universal definition of the groupings they write about.

They're not stupid.

They know very well that the classifications they assume as given are not repeatable and applicable everywhere in the world.

The last chapter is the main piece were they basically suggests that we might as well stop making progress in further finding the true factors for all sorts of inequalities, injustice, conflicts, social problems and accept them as a natural law.

The chapter suggests that the authors have found the ultimate explanation of everything and any other research can halt now. But then, at the same time, they take a nostalgic look backwards to philosophies of long gone centuries where the unwashed masses of dumb sheep are at the mercy of an elite.

An elite who alone have the power to choose when they are generous and when they are punitive. Although the authors are trying so hard....so, so hard to be subtle and preserve the appearance of being unbiased all the way through.

The last chapter is where they show their true colours and the true purpose of the book.

Finally, if in an allegedly scientific context authors go through the effort of making apologetic statements and/or adding praising reviews, they annihilate their own credibility.

In no serious scientific publication will you find something like “So many non-believers were trying to discredit our work because they just don’t understand our “novelty ideas”

But, it does make sense, those with higher intellects can plan ahead better, and that includes in their children planning.

Once again. Look at the vagueness. When you say "Those"...who do you refer to ? What do you mean when you say "Higher intellects" ?

The Unabomber was a certified genius and serial killer he would've probably would score highly on just about any standardized test you chose to give them. And what of it ?

Not to deny that there's some smart people with this problem, it just appears to be less common.

What do you mean by smart person ?

Liberalism definitely brings forward out of wedlock births, Iceland's very Liberal.

White Supremacist scientists?
Most of them today say race doesn't exist,
a 'clear fallacy to protect their beloved darker ones.

 

[Paul Essien]

How do you figure the White supremacists control the jobs?

OK. Floor is yours. Point out any job sector that black people controls. All jobs in the USA are controlled by the white supremacists and run for white people in the main.

A part from a sizable amount of those controlling the jobs being Jews.

Yeah that black ass Jew Scarlett Johannssen

And black guy Jew...Harrison Ford

Jews are seen as whites, accepted as part of the grand schema of European civilization; viewed as intelligent, hard-working and successful, unlike black people of color who are still typified as lazy, unintelligent, prone to crime. And the Jews sure as hell know how to get board team white supremacy with how they're hating on the black Jews in Israel

 

[Paul Essien]

You can''t prove there's a global system of White supremacy, much less prove that this is making Africans fail.

I am proof.

And so are the millions of black people the world over. If you still fail to understand that then there is no point for you.

I believe racism exists.

Rhodesia was the top of Africa economically, Mugabe turned it into Zimbabwe, kicked out White farmers, and long behold it became the worst economically in Africa.
Why?

No white person is African.

Robert Mugabe was right to declare war against the white farmers.

If someone comes into your home and robs and rapes everyone in your home and uses what is in your home to build his empire. I don't think they can complain about the tactics you use to get your home.

Let’s go back in time here

In the early 1900s, African agriculture competed head to head with white settler farmers for the market of the growing towns and mining centres in the country. Africans taught the Europeans farming.

However, in 1915, whites stole (By force) more of the high potential land and initiated a new form of taxation to suppress the indigenous competition.

By the 1930s, the state moved more Africans to the non-fertile communal lands. The result of this was that the Africans who had wedged such competition against the white settlers were rendered idle, and forced to work as labourers to the white farmers.

Zimbabwe gained independence in 1980. Part of the talks leading up to independence included the Lancaster House Agreement, which provided that from 1980 to 1990, a fund provided by Britain would be used to buy land from those white settlers who could not, in effect, stand being ruled by black Zimbabweans.

What the agreement actually did was protect white farm owners from redistribution of their land. Britain never had any intention to let go of the farmland. The commercial farms were a reliable source of raw material for British factories; profits from commercial farming were repatriated to motherland; and so were the profits from white-owned industries set up by proceeds from commercial farming.

Not surprisingly, in the years following Independence, Britain released the money to the Zimbabwean government in dribs and drabs. As a result, not much land redistribution was done; and the situation was not helped by white farmers who were setting ridiculously high prices for their farms, and invariably offered barren, infertile and disused farms.

The Mugabe government put the economic and social interests of the majority African population of Zimbabwe ahead of the interests of others. This government clearly stands out as a Black man's Government.

There are two reasons why Mugabe and Zimbabwe is so hated.

1) The Whites Loss Of Land And Power

Mugabe put Land Reform on the political and economic agenda, thus an international campaign of vilification has been waged against Mugabe. The deep hyper-inflation ravaging their economy is because they starve for foreign exchange because Zimbabwe dared to try to return some of the vast, stolen land-holdings to Zimbabweans, since then the U.S, Britain, IMF, World Bank have waged a relentless economic almost psychotic war against the country.

..now the 2nd reason as to why Mugabe is hated is

2) Mineral Wealth

UK and America control most of the huge mineral reserves in Zimbabwe which are crucial to western impearlism.

Britain want FULL control of the vast mineral resources like diamonds, gold, platinum, copper which Africa has in abundance and which is virtually all in the hands of western owned companies like Anglo American, SHELL, BP.

Mr. Mugabe's Pro-Nationalist policies went against their interest. This is why they were so angered at the elections in Zimbabwe to the point where they went to the UN to try to freeze Mugabe's assets and prevent him from travelling from overseas, they failed. Russia and China voted against it.

Britain and the USA want their own puppet dictator, who they can pay off, so he will go along with their wishes. They don’t give a F**K about Zimbabweans. It’s all a carefully scripted plan to protect their huge mineral wealth in Zimbabwe and Africa in general.