Hillary embracing KKK leader Robert Byrd. Where is the media on this?

[Jroc]

To add:

"As for Sanger as a supporter of KKK, it is just untrue," Baker wrote in an email. "She was far ahead of her times in terms of opposing racial segregation. She worked closely with black leaders to open birth control clinics in Harlem and elsewhere. She believed all women should have the information about birth control that rich women had, hence her lecture to the KKK women."

Ruth Engs, a professor emeritus of applied health science at Indiana University who has studied the eugenics movement:

"Margaret Sanger, as far as I know, was never a member of the Klan. She would speak to any group who was interested in how to control their reproduction. This includes immigrant groups, black groups, church groups, in addition to professionals, physicians," she wrote in an email.

Author Edwin Black, whose 2003 book War Against the Weak paints a scathing portrait of the American eugenics movement, criticizes Sanger harshly in its pages for her eugenic beliefs. Ultimately, though, he writes, "Sanger was no racist. Nor was she anti-Semitic."

LINK

Funny the KKK sure liked her, being they asked her to speak a dozen times and the wifes of KKK are still KKK....Rose bud

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

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LOL..."Cherished" ...please.... He didn't even attend the presentation. and nobody is against birth control

“Words are inadequate for me to say how honored I was to be the recipient of the Margaret Sanger Award,” Martin Luther King Jr. wrote to the Planned Parenthood Federation in 1966. “This award will remain among my most cherished possessions.”

King’s acceptance speech for that award, “Family Planning — A Special and Urgent Concern,” makes it very clear that, no, you may not claim to be an heir to King’s moral vision while fighting against access to contraception as a component of universal health care.

King honored Planned Parenthood as an ally in his struggle for justice on behalf of the poor and the oppressed. And Planned Parenthood honored him, in turn, as an ally initsstruggle for justice on behalf of the poor and the oppressed
Martin Luther King Jr.: ‘I am happy to be the recipient of the Margaret Sanger Award’

 

[paperview]

Makes you wonder why when Martin Luther King received his Margaret Sanger award -- he called it one of his most cherished possessions.

LOL..."Cherished" ...please.... He didn't even attend the presentation. and nobody is against birth control

So you're denying MLK's own words?

And the second part of your sentence is a joke.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Scarborough Changes Tune On Trump, Says Refusal To Disavow David Duke "Is Disqualifying"

 

[Jroc]

Makes you wonder why when Martin Luther King received his Margaret Sanger award -- he called it one of his most cherished possessions.

LOL..."Cherished" ...please.... He didn't even attend the presentation. and nobody is against birth control

So you're denying MLK's own words?

And the second part of your sentence is a joke.

Nobody is against birth control rose bud.. MLK didn't accept the stupid award in person. So it must not have been very "Cherished"

 

[alpine]

All of these quotes are sourced ..rose bud

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion and opposed poor folks having more children than they could afford to take care of.

Which part of that do you disagree with?

This part....Forced sterization

BULLSHIT

African American organizations asked her to find ways to improve women health in African American communities. Because African American men didnt give a shit about their female counterparts health. Men were breeding women to death. And African American community leaders asked her help. And she helped...

Shame on those, who did asked for help in the first place, and talk behind her back now, SHAME ON!!!!

shut up idiot.... Sanger spoke before the KKK. Why would the KKK be so eager for this women to speak?

The second iteration of the Klan (in the 20's) was much different than the first and third one. Not to dismiss them as not being racist and anti-immigrant -- their motto and tune was "pro-American" -- nearly 4 million Americans were part of what was that "fraternal, nativist and strenuously patriotic organization."

"Sanger did speak to a group connected to the KKK and wrote about it openly. In Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, published in 1938, Sanger details her work advocating birth control across the United States and emphasizes her willingness to talk to virtually anyone.

"Always to me any aroused group was a good group," Sanger writes, "and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan at Silver Lake, New Jersey, one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing."

Sanger’s account suggests she didn't hold the group in the highest esteem. After arriving at the meeting, a complicated process that involved driving to a secret location, it was time for her to speak.

"Never before had I looked into a sea of faces like these. I was sure that if I uttered one word, such as abortion, outside the usual vocabulary of these women they would go off into hysteria. And so my address that night had to be in the most elementary terms, as though I were trying to make children understand," Sanger writes."

She thought of them as uneducated children. But it was her desire to help them benefit from birth control, which was her mission. She'd speak to anyone who would listen.

"It’s important to note that the Women of the Ku Klux Klan was not the KKK itself. It was a parallel, official organization, with branches in all 48 states."

NH Rep. Bill O'Brien says Margaret Sanger was active participant in KKK | Politifact

If she was speaking to KKK, but only KKK, then people might had a point attacking her.

But, APPARENTLY, she was speaking to anyone, including African American groups, and KKK groups, whoever interested in womens health, was wanting to hear her speak. And the catholic church going women wanted to hear her because they were having the same problems with everyone else.

This maybe news to some people, but bearing a child is a NASTY PROCESS, from the beginning, to the end. And OF COURSE women want to control this, AT SOME POINT.
ALL WOMAN WOULD WANT THAT...


All these KKK woman, African American woman, Catholic woman, Protestant woman, ..... all wanted the same thing.

There is a big chance your grand ma survived and lived longer, because of this woman........

Shame on people taking behind her....... Shame on them....

 

[Jroc]

The things people must do to get elected in the Democratic party..

 

[alpine]

The things people must do to get elected in the Democratic party..

I have watched his interviews, and all it was about how he raised above of his past.
This is not about him tho, this is about those people that got harmed by the KKK.
Never seen him speaking about them, except when dropping the n-bomb on them.......

Hmmmm.............

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Hillary embracing KKK leader Robert Byrd. Where is the media on this?"

There are no 'media' because there is nothing to 'report.'

Members of 'the media' and a majority of Americans correctly understand that this is among the more moronic and lame of rightwing straw man fallacies and lies, the ridiculous notion that Byrd was somehow 'representative' of democrats, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

What it represents is how democrats rejected the racism that existed among Southern conservatives in their party, where racists and bigots realized they were no longer welcome, and left the party – many joining the GOP consistent with the Southern Strategy.

The thread premise fails as an inane and pathetic attempt to deflect from Trump's failure to timely denounce the racists and bigots who support his candidacy – a failure the consequence of Trump's arrogance, intolerance, and bigotry he himself promotes, not an 'earpiece.'

 

[paperview]

Makes you wonder why when Martin Luther King received his Margaret Sanger award -- he called it one of his most cherished possessions.

LOL..."Cherished" ...please.... He didn't even attend the presentation. and nobody is against birth control

So you're denying MLK's own words?

And the second part of your sentence is a joke.

Nobody is against birth control rose bud.. MLK didn't accept the stupid award in person. So it must not have been very "Cherished"

Except the Vatican, and a whole lot of fundamentalists. And because MLK didn't speak, his wife presented his own words doesn't mean anything. Your argument is a FAIL.
The Catholic Church and Birth Control - PBS
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PBS
The Vatican's stand against contraception was centuries old. For much of that time, however, birth control had remained a dormant issue. Since most birth control ...
The Case Against Birth Control - Army of God
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The Case Against Birth Control By Nate Wilson BIBLICAL BASIS: God is Sovereign in birth. He opens & shuts the womb; He blesses with children. (The following ...
Religion and birth control - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_birth_control
Wikipedia
Religious adherents vary widely in their views on birth control. .... contraception is "a most dangerous doctrine to preach" and "a sin against God and humanity".
Birth Control: The Case for the Catholic - The Atlantic
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/.../birth-control.../308925/
The Atlantic
It is important to note that the argument which is being urged against contraception is not based on any such principle as 'It is always sinful to oppose or to check ...
Love and Sexuality
www.usccb.org/.../love-and...
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops
Can some methods of birth control cause abortion? ... They work against the natural gift of fertility, treating pregnancy as if it were a disease and fertility as if it ...
Women who don't use birth control explain why not, slut ...
www.salon.com/.../women_who_dont_use_birth_control_explain_...
Salon
Jul 22, 2014 - Hint: It's because they don't understand how birth control works. ... The case against Hillary Clinton: This is the disaster Democrats must avoid ...
Nuns Lose Case Against Birth Control Mandate
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../little-sisters-of-the-poor...
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The Pill Kills - 2015 - The Pill Kills Truth
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While contraception use has risen, abortions in the U.S. doubled between 1973 and .... 7 Robert Rector, “Marriage: America's Greatest Weapon against Child ...
The Republican War on Contraception | Mother Jones
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The Republican presidential candidates also have come out against birth control. Mitt Romney has slammed President Barack Obama for ...
Pope Francis, Birth Control and American Catholics - The ...
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There is perhaps no church teaching more widely derided and disobeyed than the hoary prohibition against any birth control other than ...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Makes you wonder why when Martin Luther King received his Margaret Sanger award -- he called it one of his most cherished possessions.

LOL..."Cherished" ...please.... He didn't even attend the presentation. and nobody is against birth control

So you're denying MLK's own words?

And the second part of your sentence is a joke.

Nobody is against birth control rose bud.. MLK didn't accept the stupid award in person. So it must not have been very "Cherished"

The entire Catholic church is by its own doctrine against birth control, you idiot.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion.

All of these quotes are sourced ..rose bud

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion and opposed poor folks having more children than they could afford to take care of.

Which part of that do you disagree with?

This part....Forced sterization

BULLSHIT

African American organizations asked her to find ways to improve women health in African American communities. Because African American men didnt give a shit about their female counterparts health. Men were breeding women to death. And African American community leaders asked her help. And she helped...

Shame on those, who did asked for help in the first place, and talk behind her back now, SHAME ON!!!!

shut up idiot.... Sanger spoke before the KKK. Why would the KKK be so eager for this women to speak?

Because the KKK has always believed that America was founded as a Christian nation?

 

[NYcarbineer]

you would think they would in the least get sanger's quote correct???

Knowledge of birth control is essentially moral. Its general, though prudent, practice must lead to a higher individuality and ultimately to a cleaner race.

Eu-genetics was a huge movement in the USA long long before Sanger... It was the way society thought in her day, but note, she did not believe in the way most of eugenetic supporters in the day believed....she believed it was the individual's decision to make and not the government's. It's just unbelievable how this was all A-OK with even Christian groups!!!!!

FYI
Eugenics in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Eugenics was widely accepted in the U.S. academic community.[7] By 1928 there were 376 separate university courses in some of the United States' leading schools, enrolling more than 20,000 students, which included eugenics in the curriculum.[16] It did, however, have scientific detractors (notably, Thomas Hunt Morgan, one of the few Mendelians to explicitly criticize eugenics), though most of these focused more on what they considered the crude methodology of eugenicists, and the characterization of almost every human characteristic as being hereditary, rather than the idea of eugenics itself.[17]
By 1910, there was a large and dynamic network of scientists, reformers and professionals engaged in national eugenics projects and actively promoting eugenic legislation. The American Breeder's Association was the first eugenic body in the U.S., established in 1906 under the direction of biologist Charles B. Davenport. The ABA was formed specifically to "investigate and report on heredity in the human race, and emphasize the value of superior blood and the menace to society of inferior blood." Membership included Alexander Graham Bell, Stanford president David Starr Jordan and Luther Burbank.[18][19] The American Association for the Study and Prevention of Infant Mortality was one of the first organizations to begin investigating infant mortality rates in terms of eugenics.[20] They promoted government intervention in attempts to promote the health of future citizens.[21][verification needed]

Several feminist reformers advocated an agenda of eugenic legal reform. The National Federation of Women's Clubs, the Woman's Christian Temperance Union, and the National League of Women Voters were among the variety of state and local feminist organization that at some point lobbied for eugenic reforms.[22]

One of the most prominent feminists to champion the eugenic agenda was Margaret Sanger, the leader of the American birth control movement. Margaret Sanger saw birth control as a means to prevent unwanted children from being born into a disadvantaged life, and incorporated the language of eugenics to advance the movement.[23][24] Sanger also sought to discourage the reproduction of persons who, it was believed, would pass on mental disease or serious physical defect. She advocated sterilization in cases where the subject was unable to use birth control.[23] Unlike other eugenicists, she rejected euthanasia.[25] For Sanger, it was individual women and not the state who should determine whether or not to have a child.[26][27]

In the Deep South, women's associations played an important role in rallying support for eugenic legal reform. Eugenicists recognized the political and social influence of southern clubwomen in their communities, and used them to help implement eugenics across the region.[28] Between 1915 and 1920, federated women's clubs in every state of the Deep South had a critical role in establishing public eugenic institutions that were segregated by sex.[29] For example, the Legislative Committee of the Florida State Federation of Women's Clubs successfully lobbied to institute a eugenic institution for the mentally retarded that was segregated by sex.[30] Their aim was to separate mentally retarded men and women to prevent them from breeding more "feebleminded" individuals.

Public acceptance in the U.S. was the reason eugenic legislation was passed. Almost 19 million people attended the Panama–Pacific International Exposition in San Francisco, open for 10 months from February 20 to December 4, 1915.[31][32] The PPIE was a fair devoted to extolling the virtues of a rapidly progressing nation, featuring new developments in science, agriculture, manufacturing and technology. A subject that received a large amount of time and space was that of the developments concerning health and disease, particularly the areas of tropical medicine and race betterment (tropical medicine being the combined study of bacteriology, parasitology and entomology while racial betterment being the promotion of eugenic studies). Having these areas so closely intertwined, it seemed that they were both categorized in the main theme of the fair, the advancement of civilization. Thus in the public eye, the seemingly contradictory[clarification needed] areas of study were both represented under progressive banners of improvement and were made to seem like plausible courses of action to better American society.[33][verification needed]

Beginning with Connecticut in 1896, many states enacted marriage laws with eugenic criteria, prohibiting anyone who was "epileptic, imbecile or feeble-minded"[34] from marrying.[citation needed]

The first state to introduce a compulsory sterilization bill was Michigan, in 1897 but the proposed law failed to garner enough votes by legislators to be adopted. Eight years later Pennsylvania's state legislators passed a sterilization bill that was vetoed by the governor. Indiana became the first state to enact sterilization legislation in 1907,[35] followed closely by Washington and California in 1909. Sterilization rates across the country were relatively low (California being the sole exception) until the 1927 Supreme Court case Buck v. Bell which legitimized the forced sterilization of patients at a Virginia home for the mentally retarded. The number of sterilizations performed per year increased until another Supreme Court case, Skinner v. Oklahoma, 1942, complicated the legal situation by ruling against sterilization of criminals if the equal protection clause of the constitution was violated. That is, if sterilization was to be performed, then it could not exempt white-collar criminals.[36] The state of California was at the vanguard of the American eugenics movement, performing about 20,000 sterilizations or one third of the 60,000 nationwide from 1909 up until the 1960s.[37]
While California had the highest number of sterilizations, North Carolina's eugenics program which operated from 1933 to 1977, was the most aggressive of the 32 states that had eugenics programs.[38] An IQ of 70 or lower meant sterilization was appropriate in North Carolina.[39] The North Carolina Eugenics Board almost always approved proposals brought before them by local welfare boards.[39] Of all states, only North Carolina gave social workers the power to designate people for sterilization.[38] "Here, at last, was a method of preventing unwanted pregnancies by an acceptable, practical, and inexpensive method," wrote Wallace Kuralt in the March 1967 journal of the N.C. Board of Public Welfare. "The poor readily adopted the new techniques for birth control."[39]

She is brilliant.
It was the women (catholics, protestants, african americans, whites...) who wanted abortion coming to her and asking for her help.
And the blame goes to Sangers?

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion.

All of these quotes are sourced ..rose bud

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion and opposed poor folks having more children than they could afford to take care of.

Which part of that do you disagree with?

This part....Forced sterization

I'm not watching 6 minutes of bullshit.

I can, however, quote Margaret Sanger, verbatim:

"The program in this country at least, does not involve compulsory features. No one here proposes that some official be endowed with the authority to order anyone to be sterilized."

Got it?

The Public Papers of Margaret Sanger: Web Edition

 

[NYcarbineer]

What's the political motive of this thread?

That's a good question!

To point out the hypocrisy of the leftist scumbags

Or, to give you an opportunity to work off some 'roid rage.

 

[Jroc]

Makes you wonder why when Martin Luther King received his Margaret Sanger award -- he called it one of his most cherished possessions.

LOL..."Cherished" ...please.... He didn't even attend the presentation. and nobody is against birth control

So you're denying MLK's own words?

And the second part of your sentence is a joke.

Nobody is against birth control rose bud.. MLK didn't accept the stupid award in person. So it must not have been very "Cherished"

The entire Catholic church is by its own doctrine against birth control, you idiot.

Is some politician running on a contraception ban?

 

[Jroc]

She is brilliant.
It was the women (catholics, protestants, african americans, whites...) who wanted abortion coming to her and asking for her help.
And the blame goes to Sangers?

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion.

All of these quotes are sourced ..rose bud

Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, In Her Own Words

Margaret Sanger was anti-abortion and opposed poor folks having more children than they could afford to take care of.

Which part of that do you disagree with?

This part....Forced sterization

I'm not watching 6 minutes of bullshit.

I can, however, quote Margaret Sanger, verbatim:

"The program in this country at least, does not involve compulsory features. No one here proposes that some official be endowed with the authority to order anyone to be sterilized."

Got it?

The Public Papers of Margaret Sanger: Web Edition

No need to call for it directly idiot..

They knew that some blacks would figure out their sinister plot so it was decided by Sanger to take the plan to the clergy and charismatic members the black community to have them deliver the death message to their congregations.

In a letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble Sanger stated, “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. And the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
Notice that Sanger said the ministers should be "hired." There are many black ministers today who support abortion--most of them still receive money from Planned Parenthood. Many have sold their souls for "30 pieces of silver."

Margaret-Sanger & The Negro-Project

 

[bornright]

The late great Senator from West Virginia is spelled Byrd. His state loved him. He brought home the bacon. BTW, he renounced the KKK and apologized.

Well, he certainly wasn't going to get re-elected all those times on the KKK platform.

And great? Nay.

And spelling; dude you initially misspelled your screen name

TheGreatGatsby, how did I initially misspell my screen name?

Lakhota/Dahkota/Nahkota (Sioux) Literature

The late great Senator from West Virginia is spelled Byrd. His state loved him. He brought home the bacon. BTW, he renounced the KKK and apologized.

Well, he certainly wasn't going to get re-elected all those times on the KKK platform.

And great? Nay.

And spelling; dude you initially misspelled your screen name

How did I initially misspell my screen name?

Lakhota/Dahkota/Nahkota (Sioux) Literature

h added after the fact.

What are you talking about? My moniker has always been Lakhota.

Just curious are you from the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren? Sorry for going off topic.

 

[bornright]

Her support for the racist black panther party is not spoke of. To sell out her own race and this country for such a cowardly group of racist. Unbelievable!