How are we going to stop the liberal war on free speech and conservative voices?

[Syriusly]

Well that is how Capitalism works- if people don't like the product- or even the leadership of the company- you can shop somewhere else. You know like how the boycott of Chic Fil E by the left worked so well.

Or, you can just nationalize 'em. That's how socialism works.

Well I am not in favor of nationalizing business's- why are you?

 

[xyz]

Well that is how Capitalism works- if people don't like the product- or even the leadership of the company- you can shop somewhere else. You know like how the boycott of Chic Fil E by the left worked so well.

Or, you can just nationalize 'em. That's how socialism works.

Well I am not in favor of nationalizing business's- why are you?

Criminal enterprises like the Trump Organization and Trump Enterprises should be nationalized, and then sold to raise money for the government and government programs.

 

[DOTR]

The American MSM is dominated by Communist/Democrat assholes. If anyone should be complaining, it would have to be Conservatives. They've been the victims of Democrat Media Bias and censorship-attempts, for decades. They even receive Taxpayer-funding to push their propaganda by way of NPR and PBS.

So, y'all Communists shouldn't be complaining. You control most of the corrupt American MSM. These two women were wronged. They were banned for merely being Trump supporters. So like i said, fuck Zuckerberg, Soros, and the Democratic Party.

Victim is a very poor choice of a word. If I am being attacked it is because I am feared or someone wishes to decrease my influence or power.

NPR and PBS are prime examples of the corrupt Communist/Democrat-dominated MSM. They shouldn't be receiving Tax Dollars. So yes, Conservatives have been the victims for the most part. You can't be a victim if you're in complete control of the apparatus. And that's the case with Communists/Democrats. It is what it is.

Coming from a poster who lives in a country where his boss has murdered 200 journalists who posted the truth.

Putin hates the free press. So does Trump. Neither of these authoritarians want people to have access to facts or to know what they’re really doing.

Russian trolls calling the US media “biased” would be laughable if the intent wasn’t so serious.

Aren’t you a foreigner ? Stop interfering in our elections.

I’m not interfering in Russian elections.

You wouldn’t harm Russian elections. You still hope their candidate Hillary comes back.
No I am talking about your constant fake news in an American context. As a foreigner you are trying to delegitimize our election and influence events. Weakly...ineptly....but in your on addled way it is what you are trying two do.
It is a measure of your otherness that you predicted not only a Hillary win but a Democrat sweep of the house and senate. You just don’t grasp Americans
Neither did Hillary come to think of it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The fact that most Americans understand that the left is at war with free speech is an indication that we are winning. It wasn't so long ago when the lefties had the entire media locked up and the only message was filtered through a liberal agenda. Americans are smarter and better informed in the age of information and liberal democrats are still playing by the old 60's and 70's playbook. President Trump has only been in office about fifteen or sixteen months and establishment republicans are fading away and angry democrats look like whiny obstructionist leaderless crooks. Let 'em whine.

So, let's say you all get your wish. We have a government crackdown on Facebook - we declare it the commons and pass lots of shiny new regulations to make sure they toe the line. What happens when the liberals are back in power? Do you think that's never going to happen? Are you excited about them being in control of Facebook?

That type of regulatory policy would never pass Constitutional muster as it violates corporate free speech jurisprudence.

And liberals would simply repeal such laws once back in power, anyway.

 

[Cecilie1200]

To you but not as a fact of law.

Private entities will never be subject to First Amendment jurisprudence, nor should they.

And FB isn't 'silencing' anyone, conservatives have ample other media to propagate their message.

I bet your tune would be different if progressives were being banned for content, you fucking hack..

WND, Infowars and I presume other right wing sites ban 'progressives' for content or just for being anywhere west of right wing whacko.

Unlike the far right- I don't have a cow about how private websites control their access.

Those sites make their political views known, and are like comparing two cans tied to a string to Ma Bell if you compare them to facebook.

Facebook purports to be a platform for all. They are the new digital commons.

The only reason you don't care because you are a gutless prick and people you don't like are the ones being fucked with.

I don't care how "common" Facebook is for some, it's no justification for socialism. Society isn't owned by the government. It's the other way around.

it's not socialism. Stop falling into the trap of calling anything the government does socialism.

Yeah, but government taking over a privately-owned company? Kinda the textbook definition of socialism.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Right. "It's different when we do it".

It's the same story every time someone decides that their vision for society is simply so important that they can't be bothered with persuading others to join their cause voluntarily. It's so much easier to pass a law and have the police do your dirty work.

Declaring facebook to be a digital commons wouldn't require the police.

It will require the police to enforce it


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Nope. it would just open up facebook to lawsuits if they suppress speech based on content.

Is there even such thing as the "digital police"?

And lawsuits are only enforceable by the police


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Only if the losing side decides to ignore the courts.

Which everyone would do if not for the enforcement power of the government via the police.




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[Syriusly]

Well that is how Capitalism works- if people don't like the product- or even the leadership of the company- you can shop somewhere else. You know like how the boycott of Chic Fil E by the left worked so well.

Or, you can just nationalize 'em. That's how socialism works.

Well I am not in favor of nationalizing business's- why are you?

Criminal enterprises like the Trump Organization and Trump Enterprises should be nationalized, and then sold to raise money for the government and government programs.

Well aren't we in luck! The government can seize assets of people without charging or convicting them of anything!

Of course that would be just as wrong if done to Trump's companies without a conviction as when it is done to the poor sap on the bus carrying $10k in cash.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The first Amendment doesn’t apply to FaceBook or any other private business.

I really hope all the liberals citing this fact remember it when the shoe is on the other foot. The conservatives sure can't seem to keep it straight.

No one said it did. The only thing not being kept straight is the argument.
I laid out the complaint and all the nuts took the ball and ran the opposite direction with it.
Can't blame me for your reading comprehension problems.

 

[Dragonlady]

Conservatives were so incensed by the “left wing bias” of Wikipedia that they started their own “Conservapedia” website.

They have over 6 million views since it was founded in 2006. Wikipedia was getting 400 million views per month in 2015.

Looks like the majority of people are happier with the left leaning Wikipedia which at least tries to post with accuracy, than with a website which tells conservatives what they want to hear.

If conservatives want to use FaceBook, stop posting fake news, phony conspiracy theories, hate speech and lies. I don’t think that’s too much to ask.

As the saying goes, honesty is the best policy.

Lol, yet you are OK with the left posting fake news, phoney conspiracy theories, hate speech and lies.

An honest progressive is a figment of imagination.

Such as?

Basically every single occupy democrats post I see my friends link to.

So what you’re saying is that you can’t come up with a single example.

My friends spread this one around all the time.

FACT CHECK: Does the Dow Jones Do Worse Under Republican Presidents?

That doesn’t qualify as “hate speech”, racism, conspiracy theory or even a lie. At worst, it’s a half truth. All of the biggest one day drops in value have come under Republican Administrations. Conversely, all of the biggest one day gains have also come under Republican Administrations.

It pales next to Michelle Obsma is a transgender. Or John Podesta ran a child sex ring out of a DC pizza parlour. Or Sandy Hook was a hoax.

 

[dblack]

The first Amendment doesn’t apply to FaceBook or any other private business.

I really hope all the liberals citing this fact remember it when the shoe is on the other foot. The conservatives sure can't seem to keep it straight.

No one said it did. The only thing not being kept straight is the argument.
I laid out the complaint and all the nuts took the ball and ran the opposite direction with it.
Can't blame me for your reading comprehension problems.

You've actually been clear from early on that you're not seeing this as a 'rights' issue. But the nuts have run with that idea. And it's not just in your thread. This stuff is all over the board. I think it's way more dangerous as a social development than whatever Facebook is up to. If Republicans join Democrats in their zeal to merge business and government, we're screwed.

 

[dblack]

That type of regulatory policy would never pass Constitutional muster as it violates corporate free speech jurisprudence.

And liberals would simply repeal such laws once back in power, anyway.

C - that may be the funniest thing you've ever posted!

 

[Dragonlady]

Victim is a very poor choice of a word. If I am being attacked it is because I am feared or someone wishes to decrease my influence or power.

NPR and PBS are prime examples of the corrupt Communist/Democrat-dominated MSM. They shouldn't be receiving Tax Dollars. So yes, Conservatives have been the victims for the most part. You can't be a victim if you're in complete control of the apparatus. And that's the case with Communists/Democrats. It is what it is.

Coming from a poster who lives in a country where his boss has murdered 200 journalists who posted the truth.

Putin hates the free press. So does Trump. Neither of these authoritarians want people to have access to facts or to know what they’re really doing.

Russian trolls calling the US media “biased” would be laughable if the intent wasn’t so serious.

Aren’t you a foreigner ? Stop interfering in our elections.

I’m not interfering in Russian elections.

You wouldn’t harm Russian elections. You still hope their candidate Hillary comes back.
No I am talking about your constant fake news in an American context. As a foreigner you are trying to delegitimize our election and influence events. Weakly...ineptly....but in your on addled way it is what you are trying two do.
It is a measure of your otherness that you predicted not only a Hillary win but a Democrat sweep of the house and senate. You just don’t grasp Americans
Neither did Hillary come to think of it.

You Russians are still trying to promote the lie that Hillary was working with the Russians. Get a clue. Nobody believes that bullshit no matter how hard you trolls try to sell it. That fact that you are even promoting this idea proves you’re a troll farmer.

I didn’t do say or do any of those things. I never expected Democrats to take the House given that so many Districts are so heavily gerrymandered. The Senate was always up for grabs. I did expect Hillary would win but

I have never pretended to be an American, posted fake news, or funnelled money to American candidates.

But that’s SOP for you Russians - to accuse others of the very thing you’re doing. Trump picked that up from his mentor, Putin and used it to great effect during the campaign.

You won’t find Americans to be so easily fooled next time.

 

[DOTR]

I didn’t do say or do any of those things. I never expected Democrats to take the House given that so many Districts are so heavily gerrymandered.

August 4 2016

Republicans will lose the House, the Senate, and deservedly so. They've brought this on themselves

Tell another lie now.

 

[DOTR]

The Senate was always up for grabs. I did expect Hillary would win but

This is because you are a foreigner and not real bright. You got nothing right. You missed the presidency, the House and the Senate was never even close.

What a loser. You just dont understand Americans and your country is shitty which leaves you grasping to fit in.

 

[Dschrute3]

I've never called for that. I know CNN and ABC are Democrat Fake News, but i'm not calling for them to be forced off the air. However, Communists/Democrats frequently call for Limbaugh and Fox News to be censored, or outright banned..

I've never called for Limbaugh or Fox News to be censored or outright banned- even though we all know that they are the biggest manufacturers of Fake News after Donald Trump. However Fascists/Republicans frequently call for CNN and ABC to be censored or outright banned. Hell Donald Trump has even called for the Washington Post to have to register with the government.

For years, Communists/Democrats have been calling for Conservative Talk Radio especially, to be censored or taken off the air. They've done the same in regards to Fox News. I haven't seen Conservatives calling for Democrat Fake News to be censored or taken off the air..

For years, Fascists/Republicans- have been calling for Liberal Talk shows and MSNBC, to be censored or taken off the air. They've done the same in regards to CNN and Washington Post and virtually any 'media' that dares say anything critical of Donald Trump. I haven't seen Liberals calling for Trump's Fake News to be censored or taken off the air.

The American MSM is dominated by Communist/Democrat assholes.

The American conservative Media- Fox- Sinclair- WND- Breitbart- Infowars is dominated by Fascist/Republican assholes.

There's only a few Non-Communist/Democrat Media Outlets in the US. They're very much a minority in the American MSM.

 

[Dschrute3]

The American MSM is dominated by Communist/Democrat assholes. If anyone should be complaining, it would have to be Conservatives. They've been the victims of Democrat Media Bias and censorship-attempts, for decades. They even receive Taxpayer-funding to push their propaganda by way of NPR and PBS.

So, y'all Communists shouldn't be complaining. You control most of the corrupt American MSM. These two women were wronged. They were banned for merely being Trump supporters. So like i said, fuck Zuckerberg, Soros, and the Democratic Party.

Victim is a very poor choice of a word. If I am being attacked it is because I am feared or someone wishes to decrease my influence or power.

NPR and PBS are prime examples of the corrupt Communist/Democrat-dominated MSM. They shouldn't be receiving Tax Dollars. So yes, Conservatives have been the victims for the most part. You can't be a victim if you're in complete control of the apparatus. And that's the case with Communists/Democrats. It is what it is.

Coming from a poster who lives in a country where his boss has murdered 200 journalists who posted the truth.

Putin hates the free press. So does Trump. Neither of these authoritarians want people to have access to facts or to know what they’re really doing.

Russian trolls calling the US media “biased” would be laughable if the intent wasn’t so serious.

None of your business what's going on in Russia..

LOL- says the Russian troll commenting on what is happening in the United States.

I'm not Russian. But it is none of your business what goes on in Russia. Americans need to start listening to some very wise words, once spoken by one of the founders of our country. If they do, maybe they'll finally stop supporting Interventionism and the Permanent War Agenda...

"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations -- entangling alliances with none." - Thomas Jefferson

 

[Dschrute3]

NPR and PBS are prime examples of the corrupt Communist/Democrat-dominated MSM. They shouldn't be receiving Tax Dollars. So yes, Conservatives have been the victims for the most part. You can't be a victim if you're in complete control of the apparatus. And that's the case with Communists/Democrats. It is what it is.

Coming from a poster who lives in a country where his boss has murdered 200 journalists who posted the truth.

Putin hates the free press. So does Trump. Neither of these authoritarians want people to have access to facts or to know what they’re really doing.

Russian trolls calling the US media “biased” would be laughable if the intent wasn’t so serious.

Aren’t you a foreigner ? Stop interfering in our elections.

I’m not interfering in Russian elections.

You wouldn’t harm Russian elections. You still hope their candidate Hillary comes back.
No I am talking about your constant fake news in an American context. As a foreigner you are trying to delegitimize our election and influence events. Weakly...ineptly....but in your on addled way it is what you are trying two do.
It is a measure of your otherness that you predicted not only a Hillary win but a Democrat sweep of the house and senate. You just don’t grasp Americans
Neither did Hillary come to think of it.

You Russians are still trying to promote the lie that Hillary was working with the Russians. Get a clue. Nobody believes that bullshit no matter how hard you trolls try to sell it. That fact that you are even promoting this idea proves you’re a troll farmer.

I didn’t do say or do any of those things. I never expected Democrats to take the House given that so many Districts are so heavily gerrymandered. The Senate was always up for grabs. I did expect Hillary would win but

I have never pretended to be an American, posted fake news, or funnelled money to American candidates.

But that’s SOP for you Russians - to accuse others of the very thing you’re doing. Trump picked that up from his mentor, Putin and used it to great effect during the campaign.

You won’t find Americans to be so easily fooled next time.

I'm not Russian, but it is clear Clinton colluded with the Brits and Russians to influence our election. And Obama was involved with the collusion too. Just look to the Ohr-Steele connection.

 

[DOTR]

Coming from a poster who lives in a country where his boss has murdered 200 journalists who posted the truth.

Putin hates the free press. So does Trump. Neither of these authoritarians want people to have access to facts or to know what they’re really doing.

Russian trolls calling the US media “biased” would be laughable if the intent wasn’t so serious.

Aren’t you a foreigner ? Stop interfering in our elections.

I’m not interfering in Russian elections.

You wouldn’t harm Russian elections. You still hope their candidate Hillary comes back.
No I am talking about your constant fake news in an American context. As a foreigner you are trying to delegitimize our election and influence events. Weakly...ineptly....but in your on addled way it is what you are trying two do.
It is a measure of your otherness that you predicted not only a Hillary win but a Democrat sweep of the house and senate. You just don’t grasp Americans
Neither did Hillary come to think of it.

You Russians are still trying to promote the lie that Hillary was working with the Russians. Get a clue. Nobody believes that bullshit no matter how hard you trolls try to sell it. That fact that you are even promoting this idea proves you’re a troll farmer.

I didn’t do say or do any of those things. I never expected Democrats to take the House given that so many Districts are so heavily gerrymandered. The Senate was always up for grabs. I did expect Hillary would win but

I have never pretended to be an American, posted fake news, or funnelled money to American candidates.

But that’s SOP for you Russians - to accuse others of the very thing you’re doing. Trump picked that up from his mentor, Putin and used it to great effect during the campaign.

You won’t find Americans to be so easily fooled next time.

I'm not Russian, but it is clear Clinton colluded with the Brits and Russians to influence our election. And Obama was involved with the collusion too. Just look to the Ohr-Steele connection.

Thank God the collusion between Hillary Clinton and Russia to take down Donald Trump failed.

 

[xyz]

Well that is how Capitalism works- if people don't like the product- or even the leadership of the company- you can shop somewhere else. You know like how the boycott of Chic Fil E by the left worked so well.

Or, you can just nationalize 'em. That's how socialism works.

Well I am not in favor of nationalizing business's- why are you?

Criminal enterprises like the Trump Organization and Trump Enterprises should be nationalized, and then sold to raise money for the government and government programs.

Well aren't we in luck! The government can seize assets of people without charging or convicting them of anything!

Of course that would be just as wrong if done to Trump's companies without a conviction as when it is done to the poor sap on the bus carrying $10k in cash.

Stop putting words in my mouth, I didn't say without due process. If the money he made was made with shady deals, then he should forfeit the corresponding money or properties.

 

[dblack]

If the money he made was made with shady deals, then he should forfeit the corresponding money or properties.

You forgot "be removed from office and go to jail".