How can there ever be peace here?

[JStone]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Palestine is Israel. The Romans invented the word palestine and imposed it on Israel during the Roman Empire 1500 years ago.

Israel is the correct historical name of the indigenous Jews, not palestine.

Exodus 34:27: Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.”

John 12:13 They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! “Blessed is the king of Israel!”

John 1:49 Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel."

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Professor of Religion, Boston University; Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University; Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish rebel] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews by Paula Fredriksen - Book - Random House

PBS...

In 70 AD, after a siege marked by starvation and terror crucifixions, the Roman army broke through the walls of Jerusalem. Not only did they kill thousands of Jews, they laid waste to the Temple, the only place on Earth, according to Biblical law, where Jews could worship God.

It was the death of the religion of Priests and sacrifices described by the Hebrew Bible. But, it would not be the death of Judaism. In the years ahead, some of the greatest religious minds in history would struggle to reinvent the religion of Moses and David.

But, the Jews would be forced to work during a period of almost inconceivable bloodshed and turmoil. They would watch their people be expelled from Jerusalem on pain of death and see the name of their homeland changed from Judea to Palestine

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLypbbijk2I&feature=relmfu]The Gifts of the Jews - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Better idea.
Jews stay in Israel.
Arabs move to an Arab country.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Better idea.
Jews stay in Israel.
Arabs move to an Arab country.

Why should the Palestinians move out of Palestine.

 

[JStone]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Better idea.
Jews stay in Israel.
Arabs move to an Arab country.

Why should the Palestinians move out of Palestine.

You didn't get the memo that fakestinians are just arabs from egypt and saudi arabia occupying Israel like illegal mexicans in the US?

Palesteenian Hamas Minister of the Interior Fathi Hammad, Al-Hekma TV [Egypt]: "Half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis"

Brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in Gaza. Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots--whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere.

Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that.

More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [Egyptian]

Brothers, half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis

Who are the Palestinians? we have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. we are Arabs. We are Muslims
Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis"

Winston Churchill, Secretary of "Palestine" During British Mandate to House of Commons, Parliamentary Debates, 23 May 1939

So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population.
Churchill and the Jews | Martin Gilbert | Macmillan

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Better idea.
Jews stay in Israel.
Arabs move to an Arab country.

Why should the Palestinians move out of Palestine.

Arabs should move out of Israel.
It's obvious they can't play nicely with others.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvwZTFFPzpE&feature=related]The On-Going Nakba of Palestine ... 63 Years Later - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JStone]

United States President John Quincy Adams

The precept of the koran is perpetual war against all who deny that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force
Amazon.com: Memoir of the life of John Quincy Adams. (9781240038398): Josiah Quincy: Books

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWIDZ7Jpdqg]Hamas - "We desire death like you desire life" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Lipush]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Which is different then the situation of todays.....how?

 

[Lipush]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Better idea.
Jews stay in Israel.
Arabs move to an Arab country.

Why should the Palestinians move out of Palestine.

There is no such thing as "Palestine"

 

[P F Tinmore]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Which is different then the situation of todays.....how?

Palestine borders Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has no borders.

 

[Lipush]

Better idea.

Everything inside Palestine's borders go to Palestine.

Everything inside Israel's borders go to Israel.

Which is different then the situation of todays.....how?

Palestine borders Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has no borders.

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

 

[Billo_Really]

Which is different then the situation of todays.....how?

Palestine borders Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has no borders.

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

Israel is west of the Green Line. Period.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Which is different then the situation of todays.....how?

Palestine borders Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has no borders.

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

Indeed, it has been said a lot. That does not make it true.

 

[Lipush]

Palestine borders Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has no borders.

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

Indeed, it has been said a lot. That does not make it true.

I do hope you understand that I simply use your own logic.

Just like you say that Israel does not exist, it can be very well said about "Palestine"

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine borders Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt. Israel has no borders.

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

Israel is west of the Green Line. Period.

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary,...

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Other names for the Armistice Demarcation Line are the green line or 1967 borders. The green line is specifically not a border.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

Indeed, it has been said a lot. That does not make it true.

I do hope you understand that I simply use your own logic.

Just like you say that Israel does not exist, it can be very well said about "Palestine"

The "logic" I use is based on actual documents. And you?

 

[Billo_Really]

"Palestine" is Judea and Samaria, and Gaza.

Israel is all the rest.

Let the Palestinians stay in "Palestine" and the Israelis in Israel.

But wait, We have said that there is no such thing as "Palestine".

bummer.

Israel is west of the Green Line. Period.

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary,...

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Other names for the Armistice Demarcation Line are the green line or 1967 borders. The green line is specifically not a border.

The Jordan river is the actual border.

 

[Douger]

I think I already posted this.
Antisemitism is a disease. You catch it from Jews.
People warn their children about the dangers of smoking, drinking and drugging and AIDS. Why not Jews ?

 

[Douger]

I'm not defending a blow them up mentality. Treat them like a rattlesnake. Great respect and admiration, keep your distance, don't trust them and if you feel threatened____kill it.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is west of the Green Line. Period.

2. The Armistice Demarcation Line is not to be construed in any sense as a political or territorial boundary,...

The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Other names for the Armistice Demarcation Line are the green line or 1967 borders. The green line is specifically not a border.

The Jordan river is the actual border.

Yes it is. It is the border between Jordan and Palestine.