How come democrats are anti-education?

[BS Filter]

A population with a good understanding of history is a threat to lefties. Because NOBODY with a decent education can defend progressive policies.

And yet we see conservative teachers in red states running for office because they don't like the pension cuts Republicans are proposing. Yea you guys don't like progressive policies, until you realize that you personally benefit from them.

After years of state budgets with no money for teacher raises, the passage of a law allowing charter schools and a proposal to cut teachers' pension benefits,

She is part of an unprecedented wave of educators running for the General Assembly this fall — 51 of them if you include active and retired educators and members of local school boards.

Most of them, 36, are Democrats

Nine of the educators are Republicans, and six are long-shot write-in candidates opposing Republicans.

”A lot of teachers and support staff at schools are fed up, and they’re just standing up and saying, ‘We’re not going to beg you to listen to our voice because that’s clearly not working. We're going to be the voice.' "

People are not going to vote for more taxes when they're struggling to pay Bill's and both spouses are working.

Are people still struggling? So much for MAGA

No one likes paying more taxes.

 

[BS Filter]

A population with a good understanding of history is a threat to lefties. Because NOBODY with a decent education can defend progressive policies.

And yet we see conservative teachers in red states running for office because they don't like the pension cuts Republicans are proposing. Yea you guys don't like progressive policies, until you realize that you personally benefit from them.

After years of state budgets with no money for teacher raises, the passage of a law allowing charter schools and a proposal to cut teachers' pension benefits,

She is part of an unprecedented wave of educators running for the General Assembly this fall — 51 of them if you include active and retired educators and members of local school boards.

Most of them, 36, are Democrats

Nine of the educators are Republicans, and six are long-shot write-in candidates opposing Republicans.

”A lot of teachers and support staff at schools are fed up, and they’re just standing up and saying, ‘We’re not going to beg you to listen to our voice because that’s clearly not working. We're going to be the voice.' "

People are not going to vote for more taxes when they're struggling to pay Bill's and both spouses are working.

Not true. Republican voters are really stupid when it comes to this. For years we have heard republicans swear they wouldn't raise taxes. But that was on a federal level. On a local level, reality is someone has to pay the taxes. If you don't want rich people and corporations to pay taxes then you are asking for your own taxes to be raised.

And local/state Republicans are very easily convinced. The argument goes, "our infrastructure is falling apart and we are broke". No shit you are broke. Corporations and rich people no longer pay their fair share.

So they don't realize that what has actually happened is the tax burden is falling more on them.

We told them this would happen.

Need an example?

That’s a big reason the Republicans who control the General Assembly abandoned some of Republican Gov. Matt Bevin’s and their own worst ideas for cutting public pensions and public spending.

Instead, lawmakers chose — of all things — to raise taxes. Many had to break the pledge that they had signed to oppose all tax increases. They responded to the needs and demands of Kentuckians rather than answer to distant anti-government puppet masters. That’s refreshing and encouraging.

Thanks, teachers, you helped Kentucky avoid self-destruction

Same old lefty propaganda.

 

[sealybobo]

A population with a good understanding of history is a threat to lefties. Because NOBODY with a decent education can defend progressive policies.

And yet we see conservative teachers in red states running for office because they don't like the pension cuts Republicans are proposing. Yea you guys don't like progressive policies, until you realize that you personally benefit from them.

After years of state budgets with no money for teacher raises, the passage of a law allowing charter schools and a proposal to cut teachers' pension benefits,

She is part of an unprecedented wave of educators running for the General Assembly this fall — 51 of them if you include active and retired educators and members of local school boards.

Most of them, 36, are Democrats

Nine of the educators are Republicans, and six are long-shot write-in candidates opposing Republicans.

”A lot of teachers and support staff at schools are fed up, and they’re just standing up and saying, ‘We’re not going to beg you to listen to our voice because that’s clearly not working. We're going to be the voice.' "

People are not going to vote for more taxes when they're struggling to pay Bill's and both spouses are working.

Are people still struggling? So much for MAGA

No one likes paying more taxes.

No. That is true no one likes their taxes raised but they like it when the schools they send their kids to don't suck. And what I'm explaining to you is that for decades Republicans have pledged on a federal level to not raise taxes on rich people or corporations to pay for things you care about. So your taxes will have to go up. This is not propaganda. This is facts. I'm telling you facts. And I'm not making up the shit going on in red states and to red legislatures. You blowing off the facts says you are a partisan hack incapable of listening to facts.

That’s a big reason the Republicans who control the General Assembly in KY abandoned some of Republican Gov. Matt Bevin’s and their own worst ideas for cutting public pensions and public spending.

Instead, lawmakers chose — of all things — to raise taxes. Many had to break the pledge that they had signed to oppose all tax increases. They responded to the needs and demands of Kentuckians rather than answer to distant anti-government puppet masters. That’s refreshing and encouraging.

Thanks, teachers, you helped Kentucky avoid self-destruction

 

[sealybobo]

A population with a good understanding of history is a threat to lefties. Because NOBODY with a decent education can defend progressive policies.

And yet we see conservative teachers in red states running for office because they don't like the pension cuts Republicans are proposing. Yea you guys don't like progressive policies, until you realize that you personally benefit from them.

After years of state budgets with no money for teacher raises, the passage of a law allowing charter schools and a proposal to cut teachers' pension benefits,

She is part of an unprecedented wave of educators running for the General Assembly this fall — 51 of them if you include active and retired educators and members of local school boards.

Most of them, 36, are Democrats

Nine of the educators are Republicans, and six are long-shot write-in candidates opposing Republicans.

”A lot of teachers and support staff at schools are fed up, and they’re just standing up and saying, ‘We’re not going to beg you to listen to our voice because that’s clearly not working. We're going to be the voice.' "

People are not going to vote for more taxes when they're struggling to pay Bill's and both spouses are working.

Not true. Republican voters are really stupid when it comes to this. For years we have heard republicans swear they wouldn't raise taxes. But that was on a federal level. On a local level, reality is someone has to pay the taxes. If you don't want rich people and corporations to pay taxes then you are asking for your own taxes to be raised.

And local/state Republicans are very easily convinced. The argument goes, "our infrastructure is falling apart and we are broke". No shit you are broke. Corporations and rich people no longer pay their fair share.

So they don't realize that what has actually happened is the tax burden is falling more on them.

We told them this would happen.

Need an example?

That’s a big reason the Republicans who control the General Assembly abandoned some of Republican Gov. Matt Bevin’s and their own worst ideas for cutting public pensions and public spending.

Instead, lawmakers chose — of all things — to raise taxes. Many had to break the pledge that they had signed to oppose all tax increases. They responded to the needs and demands of Kentuckians rather than answer to distant anti-government puppet masters. That’s refreshing and encouraging.

Thanks, teachers, you helped Kentucky avoid self-destruction

Same old lefty propaganda.

It's really sad when that's all you can come back with. Seems to me Republican politicians in KY are backpeddling on their pledge not to raise taxes. So that's a progressive policy isn't it? So it seems Republicans have embraced progressive policies when it comes down to reality.

Of course first Kentucky politicians tried to cut teachers pay and pensions. That proved to be very unpopular with voters.

Ultimately Republican voters are ignorant hypocrites. They don't realize Republicans are only interested in cutting taxes on the rich and corporations. That leaves you picking up the tab.

Yea Republicans don't like paying taxes but they like the stuff taxes pay for. Now that they voted in politicians who believe the rich pay too much, now they will have to face the obvious which is their taxes are going to be raised.

Us Progressives told you Republican policies never work out for the masses. It as liberals and progressive policies that created the American Middle class the world had never seen before. Social security, medicare, pensions, unions, high wages. These were all things us liberals won.

Since Reagan, the middle class just keeps getting smaller and smaller and poorer and poorer. And Republicans say you, not the rich, should pay more taxes. Sorry, we're broke.

 

[koshergrl]

I am specifically talking about U.S. history.

Reading these threads over the past 16 years in these forums, liberals keep on saying over and over the same ignorant propaganda.

Its like have they ever even bothered to read a history book?

Examples:

1. High taxes and Unions in the 1950~1980

Why do they ignore WWII , the world was in ruins, the only standing country to produce was The U.S.A.

Why do they ignore the lack of regulations? Lack of government agency's like the EPA that was started by Nixion? Why they ignore the lack of Quality control..any one with a few bucks could start a company in a garage and build an empire?

Why do they ignore the fact no one paid those high taxes?

Why do they ignore the fact the world caught up?

Why do they ignore the fact no one wants to work for private Unions?

2. Why do democrats ignore their own history? What is the big deal?


How many democrats know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks -- 13 of them ex-slaves -- were elected to Congress, all as Republicans?

The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.




How many democrats know, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act?

This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

How many democrats know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party?

On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

How many democrats know Fugitive slave laws?

In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.

How many democrats know Emancipation?

Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

How many democrats know Civil rights laws?

In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

How many democrats knowRight to vote?

When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.



Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.


Again I say..

Why are democrats so anti education?

Why?

Republican teachers in Red States are running against Republicans because Republicans treat public schools and public school teachers like shit.

They Helped Lead Kentucky's Teacher Protests. Now They're Running For Office. | HuffPost

Jacqueline Coleman, a high school assistant principal, and Kelsey Hayes Coots, a middle school teacher, both participated in last spring’s protests, during which Kentucky teachers swarmed the state Capitol to demonstrate against years of school budget cuts and proposed changes to their pension plans.

Kentucky was one of several states that experienced widespread teacher protests last spring. Offshoots of those demonstrations have continued into 2019, a statewide election year in which Gov. Matt Bevin (R) ― one of the chief targets of teachers’ ire ― is seeking reelection.

The presence of two teachers on the ballot, even in a little-watched off-year election, will test the ongoing strength of the “Red for Ed” movement that grew out of last year’s protests, especially as teachers’ unions and public education advocates fight to reverse decades of budget cuts that have strangled school systems nationwide.

It could also make education a major issue in Democrats’ efforts to unseat an unpopular Republican governor. Critics have painted Bevin as one of the nation’s most ardent opponents of public education and teachers’ efforts to stave off even more cuts.

“There is a war on public education in Kentucky, and it’s going to take educators rising up [to stop it],” Coleman told HuffPost this week. “And if our government won’t listen to us, invite us in and give us a seat at the table. We’ve just decided that we’re going to run and we’re going to become that government.”

‘Our Leaders Are Working To Gut Education’

Boob, you're exactly the sort of anti-female, anti-life, anti-child, anti-truth, soulless peckerwood I would expect to be firmly entrenched in our education system.

Republicans treat public schools and teachers the way they deserve to be treated...like dishonest, flaky ignorami and corrupt racketeers. Marxists and mentally ill pedophiles and straight up criminals have taken over our education system, and the criminals and mentally ill pedophiles that run it are whining because we are finished giving them money...and finished giving them unfettered, un scrutinized, access to our children.

The schools are pits, and the people in them are mostly vipers.

 

[SandSquid]

Ahh yes. Alabama was a liberal stronghold and San Francisco and NYC were conservative bases.

The old "let's rewrite history because the real version doesn't make me feel happy" bit. Thanks for proving the thread here.

Wait you trying to equate the year 2019 to the 1970s ? What kind of fool are you ? Once again who won the south in 1976?

Great point. A candidate who ran a very middle of the road race, mostly promising to drain the swamp calling himself a reformer untainted by the political scandals. This was coming off arguably the largest corruption scandal in US political history for his opponents party, and 5 recessions in the previous 20 years, and the recent OPEC gas crisis.

Which makes him the ONLY democrat to carry the south in well over 50 years. Yes you are bringing up a candidate who the majority of his votes were by dead people. Because when the next Southern Dem governor won an election by an even larger vote overall, he couldn't carry the South even.

Great point there. 1 time a Democrat was able to win the south in over 60 years. And before that they won the South every time for nearly 100 years. Great point out of that obvious change there.



There's a neat video. No bias. Just county voting for presidential elections. About 1:40 gets you to the start of the Republican party. And look at 1964 on. Yeah, Carter was clearly the exception. An exception to the rule doesn't change the rule. Unless you want to lie and pretend it's more than that, and intentionally try to destroy and rewrite history, creating one not based on facts, but rather overinflating a single occurrence. But that choice is up to you.

Your the one that is lying and trying to say they switched, what you don't think children don't grow up and vote?

Yes I am looking at the national level. You can find hold outs from both parties at local levels. You can find outlier situations, where you have bad candidates from one party.

You've listed the number of candidates who switched parties which had nothing to do with a historical facts I brought up. What you failed to do though is list how many of those Democrats were voted out, as Republicans switched over to a more southern conservative platform and won those seats.

Why would you want to hide that?

Hide what? Once again only three switched, why would generation X of the south vote for Democrats and low pay farm jobs when they knew Republicans produced high paying manufacturing jobs?



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Again I never said politicians switched. Though you can look at the parties in that transition such as the dixiecrats and how on the national level southern conservative voting patterns changed.

So the question still remains why YOU think that history should be rewritten in statements devoid of fact which actually go against the historical fact I've shown you. Why can't you defend your position using historical fact rather than try to change the subject and lie by claiming I made statements that I clearly didnt say?

Now if you want to make the claim that the south now is making great wages, I'd love to see your facts to back that up... The bureau of Labor does a nice breakdown on average and median pay by state.

Maybe a comparison of average wages between the solid South and the northeast or west coast which lean more democratic today. Use facts please. Otherwise when you say these things it sounds like you are trying to revise history to suit your own political agenda.

Or even better let's look at Fulton county (Atlanta) vs the rest of Georgia in terms of pay. You called that a long term Democratic leaning area in the state, as an outlier vs the rest of the state. How have the wages worked out?

 

[regent]

Sounds like public education should be eliminated.

 

[SandSquid]

Sounds like public education should be eliminated.

Agree. Get your kids out and into those Catholic private schools where pedophilia and sexual assault never happen....


No wait...

 

[my2¢]

Yes, there was a time when the Republican Party was the liberal party.

 

[koshergrl]

Sounds like public education should be eliminated.

At least..the feds and the state need to get their greasy fingers out of the equation.

 

[koshergrl]

Sounds like public education should be eliminated.

Agree. Get your kids out and into those Catholic private schools where pedophilia and sexual assault never happen....


No wait...

Educate them at home, or come together with likeminded parents, like we did in the old days, when our kids were educated rather than brainwashed and turned into drooling retards.

Keep the kids who actually start out as drooling retards in the schools where they can be free to crap themselves and shoot things up to their hearts' content, and keep the normal kids at home, or in alternate situations, far away from the reprobates and criminals that run our schools.

 

[koshergrl]

A population with a good understanding of history is a threat to lefties. Because NOBODY with a decent education can defend progressive policies.

And yet we see conservative teachers in red states running for office because they don't like the pension cuts Republicans are proposing. Yea you guys don't like progressive policies, until you realize that you personally benefit from them.

After years of state budgets with no money for teacher raises, the passage of a law allowing charter schools and a proposal to cut teachers' pension benefits,

She is part of an unprecedented wave of educators running for the General Assembly this fall — 51 of them if you include active and retired educators and members of local school boards.

Most of them, 36, are Democrats

Nine of the educators are Republicans, and six are long-shot write-in candidates opposing Republicans.

”A lot of teachers and support staff at schools are fed up, and they’re just standing up and saying, ‘We’re not going to beg you to listen to our voice because that’s clearly not working. We're going to be the voice.' "

Yes, Republican teachers running on that platform are just lying commie scumbags and criminals, like the rest of the leftists that have infiltrated our party...and 99 percent of all public school employees.

 

[sealybobo]

A population with a good understanding of history is a threat to lefties. Because NOBODY with a decent education can defend progressive policies.

And yet we see conservative teachers in red states running for office because they don't like the pension cuts Republicans are proposing. Yea you guys don't like progressive policies, until you realize that you personally benefit from them.

After years of state budgets with no money for teacher raises, the passage of a law allowing charter schools and a proposal to cut teachers' pension benefits,

She is part of an unprecedented wave of educators running for the General Assembly this fall — 51 of them if you include active and retired educators and members of local school boards.

Most of them, 36, are Democrats

Nine of the educators are Republicans, and six are long-shot write-in candidates opposing Republicans.

”A lot of teachers and support staff at schools are fed up, and they’re just standing up and saying, ‘We’re not going to beg you to listen to our voice because that’s clearly not working. We're going to be the voice.' "

Yes, Republican teachers running on that platform are just lying commie scumbags and criminals, like the rest of the leftists that have infiltrated our party...and 99 percent of all public school employees.

No those were teachers who were/are Republicans running against Republicans in the primaries. They didn't infiltrate your party. They were members of your party until they realized you are no good for them. Many working class Americans are starting to figure this out.

In other words their starting to realize as teachers they are dumb for voting GOP. Tell Unkotare. He votes Republicans too. He doesn't realize you Republicans consider all teachers commy scumbags.

I agree with you 100%. Fuck the teachers and public schools. Fuck their pensions.

What I want to know is why would the Kentucky Supreme Court side with teachers? And I thought Republicans were experts when it comes to the constitution. How come they're always doing things that are unconstitutional?

FRANKFORT, Ky. — The Kentucky Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a law that made changes to the state's struggling public pension system eight months after it prompted thousands of teachers to protest, closing schools across the state.

Public pension systems across the country are in trouble as workers live longer and states grapple to make up investment losses from the Great Recession. But Kentucky's pension systems are among the worst funded in the country. The state is at least $38 billion short of the money it needs to pay benefits over the next three decades.

In April, Republican Gov. Matt Bevin signed a law that moved all new teacher hires into a hybrid pension plan. The law also restricted how teachers used sick days to calculate their retirement benefits and changed how the state pays off its pension debt.

Facing a tight deadline, state lawmakers introduced and passed the bill in one day near the end of the 2018 legislative session. The bill moved so quickly that a copy was not available for the public to read until the day after lawmakers had voted on it.

Teachers were outraged, thousands marched on the Capitol and schools in more than 30 districts closed. Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear sued, arguing the legislature violated the state Constitution by not voting on the proposal three times over three separate days. Bevin argued lawmakers did not need to do that because they had substituted the bill for an unrelated one that already had the required votes.

Thursday, the state's highest court sided with Beshear. It ruled that lawmakers cannot take a bill close to final passage and replace it with an unrelated bill without voting on it three times over three separate days as the Constitution requires.

The ruling could have political consequences. Bevin is up for re-election in 2019, and Beshear is one of the Democratic candidates vying to replace him. The two men have clashed in court multiple times since 2015.

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like public education should be eliminated.

I agree. Or at least move all public school kids to 100% online classes. Much cheaper. Each state would save hundreds of millions of dollars. Each tax payer would save hundreds if not thousands of dollars.

Anyone who wants more can pay to send their kids to private schools.

 

[SandSquid]

I think homeschooling can be the best option. But it depends on the family. If they can afford a parent out of the workforce. If the parent has the abilities to teach their child a college prep level education (or the ability to get them to someone who can).

I don't think a less educated workforce in today's world though is a better thing, and the last time the US had a large number of homeschooling was in the South where we had quite a bit of poverty.

Like or dislike public education, the countries that do not offer it, or shorten it I don't think set a good example of success without it. I don't think we should be looking up to Sub Saharan Africa, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan and the like for education reform ideas.

As for online only, I get the ease of it, but the ability to build social skills needed in life, would be lost. Sure, maybe sitting in front of your computer alone all day is the future world we want and will have, but I'd like to only use that option where the student fits the situation (has a social life outside school, sports, clubs, etc., self motivated, higher knowledge base). And I don't think it gives students who may need attention what they need. There's plenty of studies that online education in STEM courses does not achieve the same results as those in a physical classroom and increases the chance of dropping out.

 

[koshergrl]

I think homeschooling can be the best option. But it depends on the family. If they can afford a parent out of the workforce. If the parent has the abilities to teach their child a college prep level education (or the ability to get them to someone who can).

I don't think a less educated workforce in today's world though is a better thing, and the last time the US had a large number of homeschooling was in the South where we had quite a bit of poverty.

Like or dislike public education, the countries that do not offer it, or shorten it I don't think set a good example of success without it. I don't think we should be looking up to Sub Saharan Africa, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan and the like for education reform ideas.

As for online only, I get the ease of it, but the ability to build social skills needed in life, would be lost. Sure, maybe sitting in front of your computer alone all day is the future world we want and will have, but I'd like to only use that option where the student fits the situation (has a social life outside school, sports, clubs, etc., self motivated, higher knowledge base). And I don't think it gives students who may need attention what they need. There's plenty of studies that online education in STEM courses does not achieve the same results as those in a physical classroom and increases the chance of dropping out.

Yeah but we need to stop automatically assuming that what the kids get at the hands of the nationalized, statist pits that are our schools, can be considered "an education" in anything like the traditional consideration. I think children are better served to spend the time they waste in middle and high school at HOME, regardless of whether or not they are getting anything like a rubber-stamped statist *education*.

 

[danielpalos]

I am specifically talking about U.S. history.

Reading these threads over the past 16 years in these forums, liberals keep on saying over and over the same ignorant propaganda.

Its like have they ever even bothered to read a history book?

Examples:

1. High taxes and Unions in the 1950~1980

Why do they ignore WWII , the world was in ruins, the only standing country to produce was The U.S.A.

Why do they ignore the lack of regulations? Lack of government agency's like the EPA that was started by Nixion? Why they ignore the lack of Quality control..any one with a few bucks could start a company in a garage and build an empire?

Why do they ignore the fact no one paid those high taxes?

Why do they ignore the fact the world caught up?

Why do they ignore the fact no one wants to work for private Unions?

2. Why do democrats ignore their own history? What is the big deal?


How many democrats know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks -- 13 of them ex-slaves -- were elected to Congress, all as Republicans?

The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.




How many democrats know, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act?

This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

How many democrats know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party?

On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

How many democrats know Fugitive slave laws?

In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.

How many democrats know Emancipation?

Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

How many democrats know Civil rights laws?

In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

How many democrats knowRight to vote?

When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.



Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.


Again I say..

Why are democrats so anti education?

Why?

the right wing is worse.

 

[sartre play]

Cant understand how anti education became popular with Republicans, most people on this board went to public school & if they worked at learning they have or had a good job,& are doing ok? what's the deal?

 

[SandSquid]

I think homeschooling can be the best option. But it depends on the family. If they can afford a parent out of the workforce. If the parent has the abilities to teach their child a college prep level education (or the ability to get them to someone who can).

I don't think a less educated workforce in today's world though is a better thing, and the last time the US had a large number of homeschooling was in the South where we had quite a bit of poverty.

Like or dislike public education, the countries that do not offer it, or shorten it I don't think set a good example of success without it. I don't think we should be looking up to Sub Saharan Africa, Iran, North Korea, Afghanistan and the like for education reform ideas.

As for online only, I get the ease of it, but the ability to build social skills needed in life, would be lost. Sure, maybe sitting in front of your computer alone all day is the future world we want and will have, but I'd like to only use that option where the student fits the situation (has a social life outside school, sports, clubs, etc., self motivated, higher knowledge base). And I don't think it gives students who may need attention what they need. There's plenty of studies that online education in STEM courses does not achieve the same results as those in a physical classroom and increases the chance of dropping out.

Yeah but we need to stop automatically assuming that what the kids get at the hands of the nationalized, statist pits that are our schools, can be considered "an education" in anything like the traditional consideration. I think children are better served to spend the time they waste in middle and high school at HOME, regardless of whether or not they are getting anything like a rubber-stamped statist *education*.

Well there's a lot of countries that do not offer a state sponsored education.

Is there one where that has been successful? Or is this like pure socialism, where it may sound nice in theory but has failed every time it's been attempted?

 

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I am specifically talking about U.S. history.

Reading these threads over the past 16 years in these forums, liberals keep on saying over and over the same ignorant propaganda.

Its like have they ever even bothered to read a history book?

Examples:

1. High taxes and Unions in the 1950~1980

Why do they ignore WWII , the world was in ruins, the only standing country to produce was The U.S.A.

Why do they ignore the lack of regulations? Lack of government agency's like the EPA that was started by Nixion? Why they ignore the lack of Quality control..any one with a few bucks could start a company in a garage and build an empire?

Why do they ignore the fact no one paid those high taxes?

Why do they ignore the fact the world caught up?

Why do they ignore the fact no one wants to work for private Unions?

2. Why do democrats ignore their own history? What is the big deal?


How many democrats know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks -- 13 of them ex-slaves -- were elected to Congress, all as Republicans?

The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.




How many democrats know, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act?

This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

How many democrats know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party?

On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

How many democrats know Fugitive slave laws?

In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.

How many democrats know Emancipation?

Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

How many democrats know Civil rights laws?

In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

How many democrats knowRight to vote?

When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.



Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.


Again I say..

Why are democrats so anti education?

Why?

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It’s rightwingnut scum who are anti education. Let us know when you can post something isn’t a lunatic lie