How Did YOU Suffer Under Obama?

[ricechickie]

My suffering is different than most. I suffered watching our great country evolve in a way I disagreed with. Examples like gay marriage, and ACA. I suffered watching someone in the office of the Presidency use his position to incite riots and social discourse.

My 8 years of suffering ended last November

-Geaux

So ... it sounds like you cannot list any specific ways you suffered. You just didn't like him. For example, how did gay marriage negatively impact you besides not liking it?

It impacted by country.

I will leave this here for you. Suffering defined

1.
experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant).

-Geaux

And yet, you cannot detail anything in particular. You just suffer from ... malaise? General anxiety?

I gave you two examples of how I suffered as defined above

as I was subjected to ACA and Gay Marriage

-Geaux

You suffered through a gay marriage?

Maybe you're straight!

Sorry for the butthurt. Really.

 

[Dim Bulb]

My suffering is different than most. I suffered watching our great country evolve in a way I disagreed with. Examples like gay marriage, and ACA. I suffered watching someone in the office of the Presidency use his position to incite riots and social discourse.

My 8 years of suffering ended last November

-Geaux

So ... it sounds like you cannot list any specific ways you suffered. You just didn't like him. For example, how did gay marriage negatively impact you besides not liking it?

It impacted by country.

I will leave this here for you. Suffering defined

1.
experience or be subjected to (something bad or unpleasant).

-Geaux

And yet, you cannot detail anything in particular. You just suffer from ... malaise? General anxiety?

I gave you two examples of how I suffered as defined above

as I was subjected to ACA and Gay Marriage

-Geaux

You were forced to marry a gay?

 

[Meathead]

Does one have to suffer to make a presidency a failure? Is malaise not enough?

 

[Rustic]

The ACA stripped existing health care insurance and forced replacement with mandated coverage plans under ACA...higher premiums...completely lack of trust for a President who sold the ACA based knowingly on lies.

Continued tax dollars going to politicians who Un-Constitutionally exempted themselves from the law they imposed on everyone else.

Tax dollars went to financing, supplying, arming, training, protecting, defending ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Muslim Brotherhood....to arming Mexican Drug Cartels...to paying Iran a ransom for US hostages....to terrorists for the release of Bo Berghdal...to the UN's new World Initiative when we were told it was for Americans...to over 7,000 pieces of pork in the failed Stimulus bill....to pay for the illegal Sanctuary cities and to support illegals in the US while Barry refused to enforce existing law and protected violent criminals, human traffickers, and Sanctuary cities...

Forced to fight in 2 Un-Constitutional, Un-Authorized wars to help terrorists (Libya and Syria).

Illegally spied upon by the NSA / FBI, information illegally collected and stored by the same govt that illegally spied on the media, the Senate, and reportedly the USSC...

Part of a group illegally targeted by the IRS to improve Obama's chances at re-election

I won't argue any of the above. But how did these hurt *you*?

Seriously? You can't figure out how amassing massive debt and taking money out of my pocket (tax dollars) to arm illegals, terrorists, and pork projects hurt me? You can't figure out how having to go into combat to fight FOR terrorists, especially those who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11, put me and other Americans in harm's way? You have to have it explained to you how being spied upon and having the IRS illegally used against Americans, my Constitutional Rights violated, hurts me / Americans?

Yes, actually. Because of all the things you said, you have yet to explain how it affected you.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not agreeing with what you said, nor am I saying violating Constitutional rights is just peachy. But take that example. You said *your* Constitutional rights were violated. How exactly? When were you spied on? Did the IRS go after you? How specifically are you in "harm's way"?

1. Losing health care coverage and having to buy mandated govt-defined minimum coverage health insurance with premiums that has risen to almost unaffordable levels:

That means thanks to the passage of the ACA I lost my existing health care insurance and was forced to buy the mandated minimum-coverage govt-defined ACA whose premiums have risen to almost unaffordable levels. Understand?

2. Tax dollars going to illegals, terrorists, Mexican Drug Cartels, Sanctuary cities, and massive pork that helped Democrats get re-elected.

That means Obama fleeced Americans like me of tax dollars that could have been going to help Americans, like me and my kids, could have created more jobs, could have protected Americans from terrorists instead of helping them kill Americans, like a friend of mine in the military. Adding massive debt puts burdens on my kids and my country that I fight for.

3. Un-Constitutional wars to help terrorists, wars in which I have fought.

What is there really to explain? Military personnel like myself have to fight the f*ed up Un-Constitutional wars that dumbasses like Obama un-Constitutionally start. We should not have been fighting over / in Libya or Syria. Fighting in these wars takes me away from my family, friends, and loved ones, puts ME in harm's way, puts my friend in harm's way, and I suffer along with them when one is killed and have to live with the fact we are helping terrorists in a country we should not even legally be in. Is that explanation enough?

4. Spied on, IRS illegal use

You do not consider your Constitutional Rights trampled on illegally as effecting you? I do. 'Nuff said.

Appreciate your service. And I mean it. It's not just a verbal tic with me. I see some of the facts differently than you though. Obama ended warrantless surveillance after Snowden. We weren't fighting for terrorists. Some of the actions we took created a vacuum into which terrorists stepped. Big difference. And on 2 above you are talking about programs in some cases that Obama expanded, but did not start.

There is a reason why military people do not support people like Obama and Hildabeast, his policies are not in their best interests... fact

 

[BlackFlag]

The Democrats controlled a near super-majority control of Congress Bush's last 2 years in office, when the Democrats even claim the economy started to go south. Duh - they were in controlling spending.

You idiot rubes have been in charge of spending for 18 out of the last 22 years. Congrats on how things have worked out for you. LOL!

Your post is intentionally dishonest, typical of the left.

Prove it wrong the, fool.

 

[BlackFlag]

Does one have to suffer to make a presidency a failure? Is malaise not enough?

Malaise? You call the conservative mental collapses of Jade Helm, Ebola, birtherism, etc. were a "malaise?" You nuts completely lost your minds!

 

[Dim Bulb]

I won't argue any of the above. But how did these hurt *you*?

Seriously? You can't figure out how amassing massive debt and taking money out of my pocket (tax dollars) to arm illegals, terrorists, and pork projects hurt me? You can't figure out how having to go into combat to fight FOR terrorists, especially those who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11, put me and other Americans in harm's way? You have to have it explained to you how being spied upon and having the IRS illegally used against Americans, my Constitutional Rights violated, hurts me / Americans?

Yes, actually. Because of all the things you said, you have yet to explain how it affected you.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not agreeing with what you said, nor am I saying violating Constitutional rights is just peachy. But take that example. You said *your* Constitutional rights were violated. How exactly? When were you spied on? Did the IRS go after you? How specifically are you in "harm's way"?

1. Losing health care coverage and having to buy mandated govt-defined minimum coverage health insurance with premiums that has risen to almost unaffordable levels:

That means thanks to the passage of the ACA I lost my existing health care insurance and was forced to buy the mandated minimum-coverage govt-defined ACA whose premiums have risen to almost unaffordable levels. Understand?

2. Tax dollars going to illegals, terrorists, Mexican Drug Cartels, Sanctuary cities, and massive pork that helped Democrats get re-elected.

That means Obama fleeced Americans like me of tax dollars that could have been going to help Americans, like me and my kids, could have created more jobs, could have protected Americans from terrorists instead of helping them kill Americans, like a friend of mine in the military. Adding massive debt puts burdens on my kids and my country that I fight for.

3. Un-Constitutional wars to help terrorists, wars in which I have fought.

What is there really to explain? Military personnel like myself have to fight the f*ed up Un-Constitutional wars that dumbasses like Obama un-Constitutionally start. We should not have been fighting over / in Libya or Syria. Fighting in these wars takes me away from my family, friends, and loved ones, puts ME in harm's way, puts my friend in harm's way, and I suffer along with them when one is killed and have to live with the fact we are helping terrorists in a country we should not even legally be in. Is that explanation enough?

4. Spied on, IRS illegal use

You do not consider your Constitutional Rights trampled on illegally as effecting you? I do. 'Nuff said.

Appreciate your service. And I mean it. It's not just a verbal tic with me. I see some of the facts differently than you though. Obama ended warrantless surveillance after Snowden. We weren't fighting for terrorists. Some of the actions we took created a vacuum into which terrorists stepped. Big difference. And on 2 above you are talking about programs in some cases that Obama expanded, but did not start.

There is a reason why military people do not support people like Obama and Hildabeast, his policies are not in their best interests... fact

Oh hey I am on your side there. But we never fought on the side of terrorists.

 

[Ringel05]

This morning, I read an interesting article about the Obama years describing how he did a great job. I don't agree with everything on that list, and I won't post it here because that's not the point.

But in the past, here and elsewhere, I've seen people say the opposite. These comments usually say something like, "I'm glad that reign of terror is over" or "I got tired of suffering under Obama."

Which leads to the question: How did you suffer under the Obama presidency? What did Obama do (or not do) that directly impacted you negatively? This isn't about vague things like "he embarrassed the office" or "he's a socialist Muslim, that's why." Instead, can you explain anything specific that hurt you or your family/friends in some way?

DISCLAIMER: Yes, I'm mostly liberal. I will be respectful to those who disagree with me if they are respectful. I won't if you won't.

I suffered major economic (nearly catastrophic) setbacks while Obama was president but he nor Bush had anything to do with the ups and downs of the economy, regardless of what political hacks claim, market forces and personal medical issues were to blame.

 

[easyt65]

Obama ended warrantless surveillance after Snowden.

We weren't fighting for terrorists. Some of the actions we took created a vacuum into which terrorists stepped. Big difference.

1. Obama publicly ended warrantless surveillance while his NSA was illegally spying on the American people, and his CIA was illegally spying on the Senate and the USSC. Clapper testified the NSA was not spying on people, and when it was revealed they were he was allowed to testify before congress again to change his testimony so he would not / could not be charged with Perjury. CIA director Brennan testified the CIA was not illegally spying on Congress, but D-Diane Feinstein blew the lid off of that when she came forward to reveal that it was happening. The CIA illegally spied on Congress, and Brennan perjured himself. So Obama's 'public show' about Snowden meant nothing.

Obama also became only the 2nd President in US history - both Democrats - to use the IRS as a weapon against American citizens.

2. The hell we weren't fighting FOR terrorists. The 'rebels' we were fighting for / with in Libya was the same Al Qaeda who had been hiring jihadists from a small sport city in Northern Libya for years to go and fight / kill Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama dragged us into his own personal war to help overthrow Gaddafi, who was HELPING coalition forces fight terrorists in Northern Africa. We helped Al Qaeda murder Gaddafi and take over Libya. After it was over, Obama and Hillary hired a militia that was connected to Al Qaeda to protect State Department personnel. I don't know from where you got your idea that these 'rebels' were NOT terrorists, but your source is wrong.

And in Syria, we were financing, supplying, arming, training, defending, and protecting more 'rebels' who most definitely included ISIS, all because Obama wanted to oust Al-Asad from power, despite knowing doing so would cause another vacuum that would be filled by ISIS. We had no business being there and no business invading Syria (yes, there are troops on the ground there now). Neither war was authorized, making them Un-Constitutional.

 

[iceberg]

i didn't really. not in a day to day fashion.

still bought guns. paid a bit more for them i suppose.
still lost and found a job in that timeframe
still did what i wanted to do for the most part

the most i suffered was having to watch hillary talk a lot more than any man ever should have.

 

[easyt65]

Oh hey I am on your side there. But we never fought on the side of terrorists.

BS! And at times when we were not fighting on their side we were financing, supplying, arming, training, protecting, defending, and warning them.

Obama created the rules of Engagement that stated ISIS' Black market oil Refineries, that supplied the funding for 50% of their terrorist operations - to include the Paris bombing, could not be touched. After the Paris attack France and Russia sent bombers to attack those refineries and tanker trucks, ignoring Obama's ROE. What did Obama do? He had the military drop leaflets down to ISIS to warn them of the impending attack. Warning the enemy of an impending attack - THAT IS TREASON, IMO.

 

[peach174]

My suffering is different than most. I suffered watching our great country evolve in a way I disagreed with. Examples like gay marriage, and ACA. I suffered watching someone in the office of the Presidency use his position to incite riots and social discourse.

My 8 years of suffering ended last November

-Geaux

So ... it sounds like you cannot list any specific ways you suffered. You just didn't like him. For example, how did gay marriage negatively impact you besides not liking it?

It does not take a village, we are not all in this together. Obama was a control freak who never had a real job in his life.
He just about destroyed all industry in the northern plains with this fucked up coal policies.
He disrespected the military with his every move...
He spent like a whole fleet of drunken sailors.
He pressed global warming bullshit without any proof.

Once again, you fail at presenting evidence of its impact on your daily life. Sorry, but at this point, you're just coming across as bitter — unless you are in the military (and disrespected) or or in the coal industry. It also sounds like you *didn't* suffer during Obama's eight years. Thanks for playing!

Women suffered more
Women Have Suffered More Under Obama Policies

Ah, good ol' Newsmax. I looked for sources used to write this article and found none. So I looked at Census data about women's earnings.

• In 2008, when Obama took office, women earned only 79.9% of male income on average.
• In 2015, the last year I found data for, women earned only 81.1% of male income on average.

Now, I'm no mathematician, but I think 81.1% is higher than 79.9%. Sorry, but your claim is false. Since you failed twice to provide any examples and then came with a fake one, I'm afraid that I'm done with you. Thanks anyway!

So you don't like the source and I'm the evil one.
How about this one does it meet with your high and mighty snobbishness ?
Women's Bureau (WB) Facts Over Time

 

[easyt65]

There is a reason why military people do not support people like Obama and Hildabeast, his policies are not in their best interests... fact

Not only not in OUR best interest but not in the best interest of the nation.

 

[Meathead]

Does one have to suffer to make a presidency a failure? Is malaise not enough?

Malaise? You call the conservative mental collapses of Jade Helm, Ebola, birtherism, etc. were a "malaise?" You nuts completely lost your minds!

I've no idea of what you're talking about. I suspect you have little yourself.

Perhaps the English language is a challenge for you. I don't know.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

My suffering is different than most. I suffered watching our great country evolve in a way I disagreed with. Examples like gay marriage, and ACA. I suffered watching someone in the office of the Presidency use his position to incite riots and social discourse.

My 8 years of suffering ended last November

-Geaux

So ... it sounds like you cannot list any specific ways you suffered. You just didn't like him. For example, how did gay marriage negatively impact you besides not liking it?

It does not take a village, we are not all in this together. Obama was a control freak who never had a real job in his life.
He just about destroyed all industry in the northern plains with this fucked up coal policies.
He disrespected the military with his every move...
He spent like a whole fleet of drunken sailors.
He pressed global warming bullshit without any proof.

Once again, you fail at presenting evidence of its impact on your daily life. Sorry, but at this point, you're just coming across as bitter — unless you are in the military (and disrespected) or or in the coal industry. It also sounds like you *didn't* suffer during Obama's eight years. Thanks for playing!

How about his gay and transgender policies that have destroyed military morale and has everyone afraid of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time?

How about his policies on coal that just about bankrupted our state?

How about his cuts to the military that disrupted the local economy?

How about the stagnant economy that prevented me from gaining any ground over eight years in terms of income while prices continued to rise?

Is that enough?

 

[peach174]

My suffering is different than most. I suffered watching our great country evolve in a way I disagreed with. Examples like gay marriage, and ACA. I suffered watching someone in the office of the Presidency use his position to incite riots and social discourse.

My 8 years of suffering ended last November

-Geaux

So ... it sounds like you cannot list any specific ways you suffered. You just didn't like him. For example, how did gay marriage negatively impact you besides not liking it?

It does not take a village, we are not all in this together. Obama was a control freak who never had a real job in his life.
He just about destroyed all industry in the northern plains with this fucked up coal policies.
He disrespected the military with his every move...
He spent like a whole fleet of drunken sailors.
He pressed global warming bullshit without any proof.

Once again, you fail at presenting evidence of its impact on your daily life. Sorry, but at this point, you're just coming across as bitter — unless you are in the military (and disrespected) or or in the coal industry. It also sounds like you *didn't* suffer during Obama's eight years. Thanks for playing!

Women suffered more
Women Have Suffered More Under Obama Policies

Ah, good ol' Newsmax. I looked for sources used to write this article and found none. So I looked at Census data about women's earnings.

• In 2008, when Obama took office, women earned only 79.9% of male income on average.
• In 2015, the last year I found data for, women earned only 81.1% of male income on average.

Now, I'm no mathematician, but I think 81.1% is higher than 79.9%. Sorry, but your claim is false. Since you failed twice to provide any examples and then came with a fake one, I'm afraid that I'm done with you. Thanks anyway!

Um...
As far as I know my first post was #44

 

[mdk]

We did quite well for ourselves during the last 8 years; however, it had almost nothing to do with the President. Our prudent investing and hard work is the real culprit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

My suffering is different than most. I suffered watching our great country evolve in a way I disagreed with. Examples like gay marriage, and ACA. I suffered watching someone in the office of the Presidency use his position to incite riots and social discourse.

My 8 years of suffering ended last November

-Geaux

So ... it sounds like you cannot list any specific ways you suffered. You just didn't like him. For example, how did gay marriage negatively impact you besides not liking it?

It does not take a village, we are not all in this together. Obama was a control freak who never had a real job in his life.
He just about destroyed all industry in the northern plains with this fucked up coal policies.
He disrespected the military with his every move...
He spent like a whole fleet of drunken sailors.
He pressed global warming bullshit without any proof.

Once again, you fail at presenting evidence of its impact on your daily life. Sorry, but at this point, you're just coming across as bitter — unless you are in the military (and disrespected) or or in the coal industry. It also sounds like you *didn't* suffer during Obama's eight years. Thanks for playing!

Women suffered more
Women Have Suffered More Under Obama Policies

Ah, good ol' Newsmax. I looked for sources used to write this article and found none. So I looked at Census data about women's earnings.

• In 2008, when Obama took office, women earned only 79.9% of male income on average.
• In 2015, the last year I found data for, women earned only 81.1% of male income on average.

Now, I'm no mathematician, but I think 81.1% is higher than 79.9%. Sorry, but your claim is false. Since you failed twice to provide any examples and then came with a fake one, I'm afraid that I'm done with you. Thanks anyway!

Yes, women could no longer afford to stay home and raise children. They worked longer hours and made more compared to men who were not earning any more either.

 

[BlackFlag]

Does one have to suffer to make a presidency a failure? Is malaise not enough?

Malaise? You call the conservative mental collapses of Jade Helm, Ebola, birtherism, etc. were a "malaise?" You nuts completely lost your minds!

I've no idea of what you're talking about. I suspect you have little yourself.

Perhaps the English language is a challenge for you. I don't know.

Yeah, okay. Play dumb if you like. Or maybe you actually are.

 

[Slade3200]

A good example of what I call excessive regulations that I specifically recall was when his epa banned a specific battery technology in construction equipment. We had thousands of dollars wrapped up in that equipment that we had been using and then suddenly the batteries were banned in the United States. Now replacements weren't an option so new equipment had to be purchased and warrantee work had to be done in CHINA rather than the US which took FOREVER

No subsidies offered?

None that I was aware of. And if there were it would likely only apply to the big box companies.
So many times smaller companies fall through the cracks with this type of bullshit.
I had a similar situation with German water valves that were burried inside walls. Had to tear them out to replace them. That was a major time sink

That sucks. While I understand the value of high standards and regulation for construction I also understand the toll it takes on builders... it's a fine balance with a lot worthy of debate. We want to keep using the quality and standards but not at the detriments of too many small biz owners. My feel at this time is that regulations are too much and can be loosened. Esp in Cali where I live.