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If we continue with the current policy of putting off the infection rate in favor of temporary and illusory safety, I think we can expect much the same as the 1918 flu with 10 to 50 times the number of deaths in the second wave by years end.We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
/——/ Your “understanding” needs updating: “In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as ‘probable’ or ‘presumed’,” the agency advises. Are COVID-19 Deaths Being Overreported? - American GreatnessONLY those testing positive are considered in their death counts right now, by the CDC.... if there was no test, the CDC does not count them, even if by all the symptoms, and high risk factors and xrays of pneumonia.... they are not counted unless they have been tested for it, and positive....is my understanding?FAKE like list as only Probable or the Gut that walked in front of a bus when he sneezed because of the virus and got run overFAKE!!!!/——-/ Real ones or fake ones?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
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Yes, but what you are so conveniently ignoring is that death WITH Covid, and death FROM Covid are two distinctly different things.one can control their diet etc...no one controls this virus i am sorry you dont see the difference
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Let's open up and see what happens. Cannot hide from it. So even if 60mil hide, 270mil would be out and about. I am OK with that and I doubt 60mil would hide when the death rate at worst will be less than 5 per 1000. Media lies. Math does not.Do you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
Do you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
Take those out and add in the people that died outside of the hospital from it... its easily a wash.....View attachment 330336
Covid-19 is particularly severe in — and more likely to kill — the elderly and people with existing illnesses, including heart disease. Some people taken by Covid-19 would likely have died from these diseases even in the five-month time frame. We do not try to calculate how many of the Covid-19 deaths “substitute” for other deaths; that is an important calculation that researchers will be eager to do once the crisis passes.
Why not DO BOTH? Trace it, by testing, and isolating those with it, rinse and repeat....... and open the economy in the safest way possible, as per the CDC guidelines?Let's open up and see what happens. Cannot hide from it. So even if 60mil hide, 270mil would be out and about. I am OK with that and I doubt 60mil would hide when the death rate at worst will be less than 5 per 1000. Media lies. Math does not.Do you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
They aren't overwhelmed. Most are laying off and or cutting doctors and nurses and losing monies as hospitals make their monies on elective surgeries. When I went in for my blood test in early April the nurses and phlebotomist were joking and laughing as I was the only "patient".Take those out and add in the people that died outside of the hospital from it... its easily a wash.....View attachment 330336
Covid-19 is particularly severe in — and more likely to kill — the elderly and people with existing illnesses, including heart disease. Some people taken by Covid-19 would likely have died from these diseases even in the five-month time frame. We do not try to calculate how many of the Covid-19 deaths “substitute” for other deaths; that is an important calculation that researchers will be eager to do once the crisis passes.
AND many if not most of those COVID DEATHS are in ADDITION to those other deaths, that will be counted in this year's death toll....
IN ADDITION.... it's why our hospitals in affected areas are overwhelmed....
Because like the common cold, this will keep coming back. Key is to strengthen the immune system not hide from it. Reason doctors want babies and toddlers to get ill and such is to build up their immune systems. It doesn't stop with adulthood. Cure cannot be worse than the disease and now it seems like it is. Why are we making 900+ suffer for the benefit of at max 5...this is per 1000.Why not DO BOTH? Trace it, by testing, and isolating those with it, rinse and repeat....... and open the economy in the safest way possible, as per the CDC guidelines?Let's open up and see what happens. Cannot hide from it. So even if 60mil hide, 270mil would be out and about. I am OK with that and I doubt 60mil would hide when the death rate at worst will be less than 5 per 1000. Media lies. Math does not.Do you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
They are cutting off doctors and nurses because elective surgeries, where they make their money,They aren't overwhelmed. Most are laying off and or cutting doctors and nurses and losing monies as hospitals make their monies on elective surgeries. When I went in for my blood test in early April the nurses and phlebotomist were joking and laughing as I was the only "patient".Take those out and add in the people that died outside of the hospital from it... its easily a wash.....View attachment 330336
Covid-19 is particularly severe in — and more likely to kill — the elderly and people with existing illnesses, including heart disease. Some people taken by Covid-19 would likely have died from these diseases even in the five-month time frame. We do not try to calculate how many of the Covid-19 deaths “substitute” for other deaths; that is an important calculation that researchers will be eager to do once the crisis passes.
AND many if not most of those COVID DEATHS are in ADDITION to those other deaths, that will be counted in this year's death toll....
IN ADDITION.... it's why our hospitals in affected areas are overwhelmed....
Overblown and exaggerated. Stop believing the media. What this has done on a positive note is fill up the hole in ozone layers. The environment is benefitting.
Nope. Rooms were RESERVED...not TAKEN....did you not read what I posted. Hospital was empty waiting for patients that never arrived. I saw it firsthand. Stop believing the crazy and biased media. PLEASE. NYC the worst hit spot is not overrrun. Javits center not needed. Hospital shit not needed and now Cuomo is sending ventilators back. We panicked for nothing.They are cutting off doctors and nurses because elective surgeries, where they make their money,They aren't overwhelmed. Most are laying off and or cutting doctors and nurses and losing monies as hospitals make their monies on elective surgeries. When I went in for my blood test in early April the nurses and phlebotomist were joking and laughing as I was the only "patient".Take those out and add in the people that died outside of the hospital from it... its easily a wash.....View attachment 330336
Covid-19 is particularly severe in — and more likely to kill — the elderly and people with existing illnesses, including heart disease. Some people taken by Covid-19 would likely have died from these diseases even in the five-month time frame. We do not try to calculate how many of the Covid-19 deaths “substitute” for other deaths; that is an important calculation that researchers will be eager to do once the crisis passes.
AND many if not most of those COVID DEATHS are in ADDITION to those other deaths, that will be counted in this year's death toll....
IN ADDITION.... it's why our hospitals in affected areas are overwhelmed....
Overblown and exaggerated. Stop believing the media. What this has done on a positive note is fill up the hole in ozone layers. The environment is benefitting.
could not be done in the hospitals in hot spots, while all the rooms were taken up with infectious covid patients.
Lockdown forever, eh? Great solution.The number of deaths will depend on how many states stop lockdown and length of time before they remain on lockdown.
There is no evidence immunity from COVID 19 possible and no evidence of doctors wanting babies to have the virus.Because like the common cold, this will keep coming back. Key is to strengthen the immune system not hide from it. Reason doctors want babies and toddlers to get ill and such is to build up their immune systems. It doesn't stop with adulthood. Cure cannot be worse than the disease and now it seems like it is. Why are we making 900+ suffer for the benefit of at max 5...this is per 1000.Why not DO BOTH? Trace it, by testing, and isolating those with it, rinse and repeat....... and open the economy in the safest way possible, as per the CDC guidelines?Let's open up and see what happens. Cannot hide from it. So even if 60mil hide, 270mil would be out and about. I am OK with that and I doubt 60mil would hide when the death rate at worst will be less than 5 per 1000. Media lies. Math does not.Do you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
Why bother with a small pox vaccine, or the flu vaccine, or typhoid and typhus shots if traveling elsewhere, or measels etc etc etc?Because like the common cold, this will keep coming back. Key is to strengthen the immune system not hide from it. Reason doctors want babies and toddlers to get ill and such is to build up their immune systems. It doesn't stop with adulthood. Cure cannot be worse than the disease and now it seems like it is. Why are we making 900+ suffer for the benefit of at max 5...this is per 1000.Why not DO BOTH? Trace it, by testing, and isolating those with it, rinse and repeat....... and open the economy in the safest way possible, as per the CDC guidelines?Let's open up and see what happens. Cannot hide from it. So even if 60mil hide, 270mil would be out and about. I am OK with that and I doubt 60mil would hide when the death rate at worst will be less than 5 per 1000. Media lies. Math does not.Do you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
Not everyone is a paranoid hypochondriac so Im sure people will be out and about. however *Im sure there is a small percentage that will cower under their beds wearing their face masks even in their own homes and the country will be better off having not to deal with these idiotsDo you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
Lockdown forever, eh? Great solution.The number of deaths will depend on how many states stop lockdown and length of time before they remain on lockdown.
Dream on!Not everyone is a paranoid hypochondriac so Im sure people will be out and about. however *Im sure there is a small percentage that will cower under their beds wearing their face masks even in their own homes and the country will be better off having not to deal with these idiotsDo you actually believe that if you opened the economy right now, things would be hunky dory, and things would go back to normal with booming sales? People are just going to go out and spend like crazy, and attend theaters and stadiums and restaurants like nothing ever happened?We have had 33000 deaths in just the past two weeks, 57000 or so in the past month....
What do you think the number will be of the deaths from this virus by the end of the year, based on what you know now of how the States are handling their reopenings, and how some states are not affected by it, while other states are swarming with it, and medical discoveries?
My guess is 100k by the end of July and another 100k by the end of the year, so probably about 200k in total by the end of the year....even if a vaccine is available by the end of the year and if there are drugs created that helps recovery time.
It could be higher... I dunno?
As of yesterday morning.
Deaths: 61,200 - of which, btw 29% is in NY (I believe those numbers include the Flu deaths and NY didn't allocate correctly as they are such an outlier but let's assume 61,200 is accurate).
Population: 330mil. Probably more due to the non documented but we will go with that #.
Deaths per 1000: Less than 2.
Let's say I assume 2.5x the deaths or 154,250. That number moves to less than 5 deaths per 1000 persons. We all agree it is a war and in war unfortunately you sacrifice the few to save the many. Why are we sacrificing 900+ people to save 2 or at worst 5?
It'll be quite a while before people will feel safe, and feel safe that their mom or dad or grandmom or grand dad, or sister with Asthma, or husband fighting cancer, etc., won't be killed by it
This great depression is with us for at least 5 years to recover from this pandemic and economic catastrophe.... maybe less, if a vaccine is working, and our gvt could actually pull off getting enough vaccines and chemicals, test tubes, shot casings and needles to actually administer it, unlike their total FAILURE on the virus test kits from the get go, let alone get people to accept and take the vaccination to protect the nation....
And the rest of the world would have to recover from it too, that we trade and sell our goods and agriculture to....
This is going to be a slower recovery than I believe you think.....
If we could give the public, a better assurance that the virus isn't just out there spreading like wildfire, it could bring consumer confidence up a little... but that would take great efforts of testing and contact tracing and isolating only those that were sick, and identifying new hot spots etc.....
And I have little confidence, that the Trump administration with the states, can accomplish such... though I have hope of such....
There are 60 million adults, that are at risk....the elderly and those younger with medical conditions.... let alone the ones that just get it and die with no pre existing or at risk, conditions.
the economy ain't coming back with any kind of roar, with all those big spenders in the 60 million adults at risk group, feeling the need to shelter, because no one is doing anything to curb the virus and identify where it is at and what areas it is moving through.....
