How Much Prison Time Should You Get For Having An Abortion?

[Lysistrata]

There is a huge disparity when it comes the termination of a pregnancy.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage. He will be arrested, charged with murder, and receive prison time if convicted.

But if that same woman has an abortion. She will be hailed as a hero by the liberals for terminating the baby. ....

When was anyone who has had an abortion been "hailed as a hero"? Did they receive a medal or were they crowned with olive leaves and carried through the streets on the shoulders of the crowd?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Explain better, Geaux, please.

(A) Terminating a heartbeat is a woman's choice
(B) Absence of healthcare in not a woman's choice

Appropriately because of the above Mr Trump eliminated the individual mandate under ACA

-Geaux

And?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Climb out of women's vagina, far right: it is not your business.

A fetus is not a human baby.

Regulated abortion is legal.

Of course it is a human baby, there is no other valid option

It is a fetus, not a baby.

 

[night_son]

Explain better, Geaux, please.

(A) Terminating a heartbeat is a woman's choice
(B) Absence of healthcare in not a woman's choice

Appropriately because of the above Mr Trump eliminated the individual mandate under ACA

-Geaux

You are saying that some women believe no law can or should control their bodies, then they accept a law that determines what they can do with their bodies?

 

[JakeStarkey]

They had no choice when they were under Obamacare. It was the law. Regulated abortion is the law today, and Geaux and all the alt right are subject to that law. They don't like it. So what.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is perplexing that considering most women who have abortions are democrat...... And children tend to vote like their parents do,...... So in this case, the left is eliminating a future vote via abortion. No wonder they are pro open borders to compensate for the votes lost as a result of abortion

-Geaux

Again, another ridiculous and unsubstantiated opinion by right-wingers about people who have abortions. Where did you get your "information" about their political opinions and affiliations? And then there is the ridiculous assertion that women deliberately use abortion as birth control. Just how many people who have had abortions do you know? Must be millions. Is there any more fantasy out there?

 

[LittleNipper]

They had no choice when they were under Obamacare. It was the law. Regulated abortion is the law today, and Geaux and all the alt right are subject to that law. They don't like it. So what.

There are Nature's laws and made up laws. The government makes up laws ---- the Nazis were great for that...

 

[Sunni Man]

It is a fetus, not a baby.

According to the law it's a baby.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage.

No matter what stage her pregnancy was in. He will be charged with murder, and if convicted, will go to prison. ....

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Usually Nazi references get brought up a lot quicker in abortion convos -- let's do better conservatives

 

[Sunni Man]

And then there is the ridiculous assertion that women deliberately use abortion as birth control.

We once had a neighbor that was a single woman who dated a lot of different men. She had several abortions and used to brag about them.

Then she decided to became a lesbian and married another woman.

So I assume her using abortion as birth control ended. ...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There is a huge disparity when it comes the termination of a pregnancy.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage. He will be arrested, charged with murder, and receive prison time if convicted.

But if that same woman has an abortion. She will be hailed as a hero by the liberals for terminating the baby. ....

You do understand that isn't a disparity right?

Its only a disparity for people who are disingenuous --- so lets put your money where your mouth is -- Do you want women to get the death penalty for having an abortion? If not, then shut the fuck up with the disparity bullshit.

It's not?

I shoot a pregnant woman and kill her and the baby, do I not get charged with two homicides?

If she goes to Planned Parenthood and has an abortion, why should she not be charged with a homicide?

Again, there is a reason you dick suckers don't come out and demand women who have abortions be sentenced to death -- because you do understand there is NOT a disparity between someone murdering a woman and her child versus a woman making the decision herself to terminate the pregnancy...

If you are saying these are the same things -- why is there such a reluctance to call for the death penalty for all of those involved with the abortion?

In both cases a child dies. There is no difference.

I want to know why a child would be aborted when so many couples would love to adopt a baby.

The idea there are a million couples a year waiting to adopt is just that, a bullshit myth.

Really? How do you know if the babies are not available because they were aborted?

I have heard that what you say is a myth is a myth,

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

And then there is the ridiculous assertion that women deliberately use abortion as birth control.

We once had a neighbor that was a single woman who dated a lot of different men. She had several abortions and used to brag about them.

Then she decided to became a lesbian and married another woman.

So I assume her using abortion as birth control ended. ...

anecdotal > empirical

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

R v. W is the law and has been for the past 4+ decades. Efforts by the Right to Life Crowd and the Republican Party's continuing use of R v. W as a wedge issue is an example of false pathos; since the R's, when in control of the White House and The Congress, have never passed a bill to outlaw abortion, by sending a Constitutional Amendment to the States for Ratification, we can be reasonably sure they are more concerned with their election, than any fetus.

Sadly abortoin rates almost always go up under Repub admins as they are stupid and cut off birth control funding as well. The best way to stop abortion is to have less pregnancies.

It’s panic buying. Mothers running out to get one while they can for fear of them becoming illegal...

No, it is an increase in pregnancies due to a decrease in the availability of birth control

Last time I checked, birth control was not expensive. Can't liberals do anything without a government subsidy?

Personally I would be willing to have the Govt give it all way for free if it cut down the number of abortions, to me the child's life is more important than some political ideology. But I know for some ideology rules their every move so I would not expect you to understand

Why does everything have to be free to losers who abuse the system?

If you want to get your rocks off, why should I have to pay for it?

 

[Lysistrata]

And then there is the ridiculous assertion that women deliberately use abortion as birth control.

We once had a neighbor that was a single woman who dated a lot of different men. She had several abortions and used to brag about them.

Then she decided to became a lesbian and married another woman.

So I assume her using abortion as birth control ended. ...

One person. Don't know her. Anecdotal. Do you think that all sex among Americans is some casual romp? That most Americans just have sex with anyone available when the bar closes? There are affectionate, loving relationships between heterosexuals. In fact, this is the situation in which most heterosexual sexual intercourse occurs. We are not a nation of male and female whores looking to screw anything that is still breathing.

Just visit an airport sometime, and watch who is waiting for someone to get of the plane and how they react when they meet. Stop insulting heterosexuals.

 

[night_son]

It is a fetus, not a baby.

According to the law it's a baby.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage.

No matter what stage her pregnancy was in. He will be charged with murder, and if convicted, will go to prison. ....

The right to abortion of convenience wades deeply into hypocrisy in every strata of human existence.

Biological. Familial. Philosophical. Sociological. Ethical, etc.

The sole balance it checks among boxes defining the human condition is self veneration over all--most poignantly: the value of convenience over existence of another life; deification of vanity as reasoning for murder.

 

[PoliticalChic]

It is a fetus, not a baby.

According to the law it's a baby.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage.

No matter what stage her pregnancy was in. He will be charged with murder, and if convicted, will go to prison. ....

The right to abortion of convenience wades deeply into hypocrisy in every strata of human existence.

Biological. Familial. Philosophical. Sociological. Ethical, etc.

The sole balance it checks among boxes defining the human condition is self veneration over all--most poignantly: the value of convenience over existence of another life; deification of vanity as reasoning for murder.

Almost every single abortion is for 'convenience.'


The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest.http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf


The overwhelming basis used for killing the unborn is convenience.

Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of effort in deciding to execute the child you've created.




The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.” In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:

a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries

b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.” http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

c. We reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.


On-demand abortion is antithetical to the ideas and ideals upon which America was built.

Based on “Voices of the Damned,” found in “Reinventing the Right,” by Robert Wheeler, pp. 89-99.

________________________________________________________________________


In just 12% of the cases were there concerns for the mother’s health; 1% for rape; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

 

[JakeStarkey]

They had no choice when they were under Obamacare. It was the law. Regulated abortion is the law today, and Geaux and all the alt right are subject to that law. They don't like it. So what.

There are Nature's laws and made up laws. The government makes up laws ---- the Nazis were great for that...

That post lacks any mental content. Government makes up laws -- American are great at that.

LittleNipper's ability construct false equivalencies is fun.

 

[JakeStarkey]

It is a fetus, not a baby.

According to the law it's a baby.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage.

No matter what stage her pregnancy was in. He will be charged with murder, and if convicted, will go to prison. ....

Read the law. If a WOMAN is assaulted and the fetus aborts or is injured, charges will be filed. The law recognizes the fetus is not a human inside the mother's body.

 

[Lysistrata]

It is a fetus, not a baby.

According to the law it's a baby.

If a man assaults a woman and she has a miscarriage.

No matter what stage her pregnancy was in. He will be charged with murder, and if convicted, will go to prison. ....

The right to abortion of convenience wades deeply into hypocrisy in every strata of human existence.

Biological. Familial. Philosophical. Sociological. Ethical, etc.

The sole balance it checks among boxes defining the human condition is self veneration over all--most poignantly: the value of convenience over existence of another life; deification of vanity as reasoning for murder.

Almost every single abortion is for 'convenience.'


The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest.http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf


The overwhelming basis used for killing the unborn is convenience.

Convenience, as in having your groceries delivered rather than having to walk across the street to pick them up.....this level of effort in deciding to execute the child you've created.




The vast majority of abortion performed in the United States are carried out for reasons that can be broadly categorized as “matters of convenience.” In a study of 27 nations, reasons for abortion services were found to be the following:

a. “Worldwide, the most commonly reported reason women cite for having an abortion is to postpone or stop childbearing. The second most common reason—socioeconomic concerns—includes disruption of education or employment; lack of support from the father; desire to provide schooling for existing children; and poverty, unemployment or inability to afford additional children. In addition, relationship problems with a husband or partner and a woman's perception that she is too young constitute other important categories of reasons.” Reasons Why Women Have Induced Abortions: Evidence from 27 Countries

b. A 2004 study of American women yielded similar results: “The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman’s education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents’ or partners’ desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.” http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

c. We reject the view that inconvenience of a mother’s informed choice outweighs the unalienable right to life of the child she bears by virtue of that choice.


On-demand abortion is antithetical to the ideas and ideals upon which America was built.

Based on “Voices of the Damned,” found in “Reinventing the Right,” by Robert Wheeler, pp. 89-99.

________________________________________________________________________


In just 12% of the cases were there concerns for the mother’s health; 1% for rape; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf

Bull shit. A person has a sovereign right to their own body. The "convenience" argument belies this fact. It also conveys some idea that a perfect stranger knows why another person does something, which is totally ridiculous.

 

[denmark]

Jailed for ending a pregnancy: how prosecutors get inventive on abortion

Once Roe v Wade is ultimately struck down as Trump predicted -- since Trump promised to appoint judges who will overturn the 1973 SC decision; how much time should women and abortionists get for having an abortion?? If you knowingly drive a woman to get an abortion, should you also be charged?

Now I highly doubt we are going to insist that women get the death penalty for having an illegal abortion, but they have to be punished somehow -- Also, would killing an abortion doctor then be considered justified?

Wow, this is a sick issue, and hypocritical of Republicans who want “less government”.

If you think it would be justified to kill a doctor who performed an abortion at the request of a suffering woman, or teenager, then the reverse can be argued for the killing of the doctor killers and even the killing of judges who prosecute women for having sn abortion.
Crazy thoughts!