How Stalin Fooled the World and Why It Matters Today

[High_Gravity]

dumb whore.

You don't have much luck with women, do you? And what you do get are dumb whores?

No, you are just a dumb whore. You are dismissed.

 

[Flopper]

It's wasn't hard to fool the fledgling CIA back in the 40's and 50's. As a matter of fact it was never hard to fool the CIA. FDR used to call Stalin "uncle Joe" and share jokes with him about Churchill. FDR can be excused for his conduct because he was a tired old and possibly brain damaged corpse that democrats propped up to run for a 4th term. Truman understood Stalin's threat but the mainstream media was in love with communism and socialism as they are today.

I wouldn't say the news media was in love with communism during Truman's term in office. The iron curtain, the Berlin blockade, the communist takeover of Manchuria and North Korea, theft of atomic secrets, the Korean war and a steady dose anti-Soviet propaganda filled the newspapers and airways in the late 40's and fifties. After the 1949 successful atomic bomb tests by the Soviets, American saw a communist behind every bush. In later years, it was revealed that 1 out of every 3 card carrying communist were either FBI agents or informants. I remember the duck and cover drills in schools in the early 50's and public service civil defense ads. The media was certainly not pro-communist during this period.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Truman was blamed for China going Communist, which is why he did not even bother to run in 1952, having no chance for anything but an embarressing landslide against him.

 

[Ringel05]

You are the one who brought it up, not me.

As for the knowledge that the Germans would attack yes, everyone knew but Stalin refused to believe it.

Afterwards what makes you think Stalin would trust Japan not to violate their non-aggression pact?

I swear, .

YOU stated that the leadership of the Soviet Union did not know whether or not Japan will attack until 1942! It can mean only one thing, that in your opinion the leadership of the USSR was unaware of the pact it signed with Japan!


Says who?! Your "historians"?!

Of course Japan was under close attention; but it signed a pact AFTER it was defeated, twice!

You better swear, than go into historical ramblings...

Dayamn do you know how to infer your myopic projections!! Id rather argue with a brick, it would look like a genius compared to you.

 

[Ringel05]

It gets better and better!

Please, do tell me where did USSR fight Japanese after 13 of April 1941?!
I would love to know!

On August 9, 1945, t

For the USSR the war was over on the 9-th of MAY 1945.

In August the Soviet Union was ready to fulfil its obligation before its former allies regarding Japan, that's all.

Wow, you're a former member of the Sovetskoye informatsionnoye byuro, aren't you......

 

[Flopper]

Truman was blamed for China going Communist, which is why he did not even bother to run in 1952, having no chance for anything but an embarressing landslide against him.

Truman in his second term was blamed with at lot of stuff, firing of MacArthur, Scandals and controversies, growth of Soviet influence, and the coal strikes. He left office as one of our most unpopular presidents but today he's thought of as one our best by historians.

Privately, several years earlier he had written - but not released - a letter announcing that he would not be a candidate in 1952. He was 68 years old, had served nearly eight years as president, and his wife certainly favoried a return to Independence, Missouri. Truman also undoubtedly recognized that it would be difficult if not impossible to win re-election. He may have considered his chances strong against Ohio Senator Robert Taft, but would have been a severe underdog against Dwight Eisenhower. Because of this, in the spring of 1952, Truman announced that he would not be a candidate for re-election.

Why didn't Truman run for re-election in 1952

 

[Vandalshandle]

President Truman was my hero. I consider him one of the top 5 presidents.

 

[American_Jihad]

The "American" Left loves Uncles Joe

That's one of the reasons for the thread, to flush them out. I also wanted to show saigon the journalist from hellstinky how the leftist ilk on this forum defend the great murdering beast, stinky I hope this thread proved my point...

It proved the point alright - NOT A SINGLE POSTER defended Stalin. Not one.

An honest poster would admit that and apologise.

They make excuses for the stinking beast stalin, NO apology. What I will do is give you more anti mao, stalin, lenin, trotsky, marx, etc...

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[American_Jihad]

On August 9, 1945, t

For the USSR the war was over on the 9-th of MAY 1945.

In August the Soviet Union was ready to fulfil its obligation before its former allies regarding Japan, that's all.

Wow, you're a former member of the Sovetskoye informatsionnoye byuro, aren't you......

She sounds like Baghdad Bob...

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[Ringel05]

For the USSR the war was over on the 9-th of MAY 1945.

In August the Soviet Union was ready to fulfil its obligation before its former allies regarding Japan, that's all.

Wow, you're a former member of the Sovetskoye informatsionnoye byuro, aren't you......

What is it that you did not like about the statement that for the USSR the war ended on the 9-th of May 1945?

Aug 8, 1945:
Soviets declare war on Japan; invade Manchuria

Soviets declare war on Japan; invade Manchuria ? History.com This Day in History ? 8/8/1945

The war in Europe was over, that was all and you have your Soviet date wrong for the end of the war in Europe. It wasn't May 8th.
Try again tovarich.

 

[Ringel05]

Soviets declare war on Japan; invade Manchuria ?
The war in Europe was over,

Listen you, twat, the USSR DID NOT PARTAKE in your Western "WW2" , the Soviet people fought The GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR (!!!!!!!). And that war for them ended on the 9-s of MAY 1945.

After that date the USSR was simply ready to fulfil its obligations to its former allies.

For the Soviet Union the war was over on the 9-s of MAY 1945 -- try to remember.

Well you finally got the date (May 9th) correct. At least that's a step in the right direction. As for the rest of your Soviet "interpretation" (sounds better than propaganda, don't it.........) and Soviet name for it's war against Germany doesn't change the fact that the USSR was involved in the "western war" due to it's alliance to the western powers. Anything else is simply a denial of historical reality.
But don't worry, there's probably a couple of clueless morons here gullible enough to buy into the propagandist interpretation you're selling...... I ain't one of them.

 

[Ringel05]

Well you finally got the date (May 9th) correct.

As for the rest of your Soviet "interpretation"

and Soviet name for it's war against Germany doesn't change the fact that the USSR was involved in the "western war"

I ain't one of them.

You, stupid lying fuck, point me at my post where I claimed the date other than 9-s of May 1945!

It's not Soviet "interpretation". It's HISTORY that is not taught to you in US.

It's not "the name". It's the fact that the Soviet people did not take part in a war of Western aggression of one Western state against the other; and entered the fight only after being attacked! I don't expect you to understand the difference since all you Americans do is attack other nations while claiming you are "defending" yourselves.

I know. You are American -- that says it all.

I can't point it out now tovarich, you edited the date after you fucked up, typical Soviet obfuscation. Yeah, your Soviet version of history is OOOOOHHHHH so not propagandized............
I mean, really. You might have bought into it or are simply trying to continue the propagation of Soviet propaganda but that doesn't mean anyone with an iota of real historical knowledge is falling for it.
Keep it up tovarich! Haven't laughed this hard in quite a while. BTW, if you want to see the personification of pathetic loser, find a mirror......... if you can even stand the reflected image........

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

We should have listened to Patton and allowed him to finish the Soviets off. Huge mistake.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

For that matter we should have listened to his 1st cousin, Congressman Larry McDonald, a Democrat who told the world Communists within the CFR and TRI LAT had infiltrated our political system and the time for NGO's to be rooted out was then and there. Again, no one listened. - Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I can't point it out now tovarich, you edited the date after you fucked up,

Lying fuck, I did not edit this date because i grew up with it.

But that's typical American: lying, bullshitting, stupid and obnoxious.

Watch your mouth. You sound just like Karl Marx with that filth pouring out of you. - J.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The filth the Soviets have poured out upon this world will never be matched by anyone. You people won the title for parasites feeding off the efforts of others, mass murderers, immoral to the 9th degree, imbecils would not begin to explain the level of your incompetency. Take your communist hating self back on over there and leave if you don't like it here. No one here will miss you. Bye, now.

-Jeremiah

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

...........and your Hockey team got its ass kicked by USA Hockey team Lake Placid Olympics 1980. Commie pigs couldn't handle it and paid off liberal marxists in charge at colleges - universities to create dream teams - ensuring they would not be so utterly humiliated before the world again. You people cannot win without lies, deception, cheating others. It is just that simple. - Jeremiah

 

[High_Gravity]

mememe is such a dumb jealous whore.

 

[yidnar]

if Stalin was an American citizen today he would have voted for Obama .

 

[yidnar]

...........and your Hockey team got its ass kicked by USA Hockey team Lake Placid Olympics 1980.

Congratulations! The second victory in American history, the first one was against Granada.

if it were not for the US you would be speaking German !!