How the Republican Government shutdown works

[Sun Devil 92]

OBAMA (and his Democrats running Congress) set national records for 'Monthly', 'Annual', and 'Total' deficit Spending. Obama added more debt in his 1st 4 years than EVERY US President from Washington to Bush ... COMBINED!

Hell, Reagan almost tripled the debt of all presdents before him combined and righties think he's a demigod.

In absolute terms...you are correct.

 

[Oldstyle]

OBAMA (and his Democrats running Congress) set national records for 'Monthly', 'Annual', and 'Total' deficit Spending. Obama added more debt in his 1st 4 years than EVERY US President from Washington to Bush ... COMBINED!

Hell, Reagan almost tripled the debt of all presdents before him combined and righties think he's a demigod.

Simple question for you Faun...give me the dollar amount that Ronald Reagan increased our debt by...and then give me the dollar amount that Barack Obama has increased our debt by.

Ah the old nominal dollar trick the right wing LOVES. Hint YES REAGAN TRIPLED EVERY OTHER US PREZ DEBT (AND CREATED 3+ TRILLION IN EXCESS SS PAYMENTS TO "SAVE" SS THAT MUST BE PAID BACK (1986-2014), TO HIDE THE COSTS OF TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!)...

I'm not using "tricks"...I'm simply looking at treasurydirect.gov and pulling the actual numbers of how our debt increased for certain years. Reagan was a lightweight when it comes to spending if you compare him to either George W. Bush or Barack Obama. That's simply reality.

 

[Nosmo King]

Who are these people that think a shutdown is going to devastate their lives? What a bunch of freeloaders.

Standard and Poors?

 

[Dad2three]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

Oh nominal dollars, NOT adjusted for inflation/pop growth shocking

Hint US debt the first day Obama was responsible for it, OCT 1, 2009 (the start of the F/Y like EVERY other US Prez) was nearly $12 trillion Bubs *(and the consequences of 8 years of Dubya/GOP policies coming up FAST!

 

[Dad2three]

OBAMA (and his Democrats running Congress) set national records for 'Monthly', 'Annual', and 'Total' deficit Spending. Obama added more debt in his 1st 4 years than EVERY US President from Washington to Bush ... COMBINED!

Hell, Reagan almost tripled the debt of all presdents before him combined and righties think he's a demigod.

Simple question for you Faun...give me the dollar amount that Ronald Reagan increased our debt by...and then give me the dollar amount that Barack Obama has increased our debt by.

Ah the old nominal dollar trick the right wing LOVES. Hint YES REAGAN TRIPLED EVERY OTHER US PREZ DEBT (AND CREATED 3+ TRILLION IN EXCESS SS PAYMENTS TO "SAVE" SS THAT MUST BE PAID BACK (1986-2014), TO HIDE THE COSTS OF TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!)...

I'm not using "tricks"...I'm simply looking at treasurydirect.gov and pulling the actual numbers of how our debt increased for certain years. Reagan was a lightweight when it comes to spending if you compare him to either George W. Bush or Barack Obama. That's simply reality.

Yep, nominal dollars, like NO CREDIBLE ECONOMIST LOOKS AT IT. Weird

It's like looking at my first home purchase that I bought for $80 ,000 my parents only paid $22,0000 for theirs about 15 years before (much nicer too). See how it works Bubba? lol

 

[Oldstyle]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

Oh nominal dollars, NOT adjusted for inflation/pop growth shocking

Hint US debt the first day Obama was responsible for it, OCT 1, 2009 (the start of the F/Y like EVERY other US Prez) was nearly $12 trillion Bubs *(and the consequences of 8 years of Dubya/GOP policies coming up FAST!

If you want to use the total public debt outstanding totals then Obama was at 12 trillion on Oct. 1st of 2009 and he now is at 18 trillion as of now. He's essentially increasing the national debt by a trillion a year. It would have been more except sequestration kept him from spending what he wanted!

 

[Oldstyle]

And the true costs of ObamaCare are still coming because they deliberately back loaded things to kick in right about when Barry is leaving office. Just wait until you see what the cost for that mess is going to be to our national debt! It's going to be EPIC!

 

[Dad2three]

Here's how the blame game works. Democrats get their minions in the media to threaten a government shutdown and blame republicans unless democrats get their way no matter what the issue is. All democrats have to do as refuse to budge and republicans will get the blame. How in the world can democrats justify their loyalty to the PP nazis who sell human body parts and shut down the government over funding to Planned Parenthood? Yet they get to blame republicans.

THE IRONY IN YOUR POST BUBS

LMAOROG

 

[Dad2three]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

DEFINITION of 'Constant Dollar'


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[Dad2three]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

Oh nominal dollars, NOT adjusted for inflation/pop growth shocking

Hint US debt the first day Obama was responsible for it, OCT 1, 2009 (the start of the F/Y like EVERY other US Prez) was nearly $12 trillion Bubs *(and the consequences of 8 years of Dubya/GOP policies coming up FAST!

If you want to use the total public debt outstanding totals then Obama was at 12 trillion on Oct. 1st of 2009 and he now is at 18 trillion as of now. He's essentially increasing the national debt by a trillion a year. It would have been more except sequestration kept him from spending what he wanted!

NOW give the POLICIES that Obama used to "create" that debt, like TWO UNFUNDED TAX CUTS, 2 UNFUNDED WARS, UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION THAT COSTS AS MUCH THIS DECADE AS OBAMACARES, WHICH WAS 100% FUNDED!


Oops

 

[Oldstyle]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

Oh nominal dollars, NOT adjusted for inflation/pop growth shocking

Hint US debt the first day Obama was responsible for it, OCT 1, 2009 (the start of the F/Y like EVERY other US Prez) was nearly $12 trillion Bubs *(and the consequences of 8 years of Dubya/GOP policies coming up FAST!

If you want to use the total public debt outstanding totals then Obama was at 12 trillion on Oct. 1st of 2009 and he now is at 18 trillion as of now. He's essentially increasing the national debt by a trillion a year. It would have been more except sequestration kept him from spending what he wanted!

NOW give the POLICIES that Obama used to "create" that debt, like TWO UNFUNDED TAX CUTS, 2 UNFUNDED WARS, UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION THAT COSTS AS MUCH THIS DECADE AS OBAMACARES, WHICH WAS 100% FUNDED!


Oops

Give me the policies that Obama used to lessen the debt?

And if you think ObamaCare is 100% funded then you're about as naive as they come! They cooked the books on that right from the get go and anyone with 8th grade math skills and a little common sense knew it!

 

[Oldstyle]

What's pathetic is that Barack Obama managed to spend more than Bush while losing ground in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iran and the Ukraine. He managed to spend more than Bush while overseeing the worst recovery from a recession in modern economic history. He managed to spend more than Bush while our schools got worse. He managed to spend more than Bush while the illegal immigration situation became as bad as it's ever been. He managed to spend more than Bush while the average American's disposable income decreased.

How do you DO that? I mean seriously...how can anyone be THAT inept?

 

[Dana7360]

Can you name the specific Obama programs that led to this massive debt?

I'd like to see them

President Obama added over $6 Trillion to the national debt in only 4 years, and that is after declaring Bush to be 'Un-Patriotic' for adding only $4 Trillion in 8 (EIGHT) years...during 2 wars, 9/11/01, and the economic shutdown caused by 9/11/01. (Liberals never like to talk about how the govt control the nation's purse strings and that DEMOCRATS controlled that budget and those purse strings with a super-majority control of the House and Senate for the last 2 years of the Bush administration through the 1st 2 years of the Obama administration...so any economic dip experienced that Obama inherited was OWNED by the Democratic party that controlled both houses of Congress....NOT BUSH!)

OBAMA (and his Democrats running Congress) set national records for 'Monthly', 'Annual', and 'Total' deficit Spending. Obama added more debt in his 1st 4 years than EVERY US President from Washington to Bush ... COMBINED!

Obama's FAILED Stimulus Bill, falsely 'sold' as a jobs creation bill, cost nearly $1 TRILLION Dollars ($875 BILLION) and contained an Obama-Promise-Breaking 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY PORK. It contained such FAILED programs as 'Cash for Clunkers' which caused used car prices to sky rocket (used cars turned in were destroyed - hurting poor families who could not afford new cars) .. and in the end the cost to taxpayers for EVERY JOB claimed to have been 'created / saved' was $742,000!

That's a good start.... NOW please start making excuses, whining, defending Obama, declaring 'uh-uh', and claiming how Obama was just another 'victim' who was handed a bad hand (by a DNC super-Majority-controlled Congress, not Bush), how he was forced at gunpoint to pass the Stimulus bill, how it was somehow Bush's fault that the US Credit Rating was down-graded for the 1st time in US history even though it was Obama who was warned that if he failed to accept more budget cuts to show he was serious about lowering the deficit (which he refused to do) that it would result in the down-grade!

Show us some more of that buck-passing, liberal lack of accountability, and 'disease' that is demonstrated by always blaming a man who hasn't been President for nearly a decade rather than addressing the guy who has been in office for the last 7 years and who is in office NOW! Tell us again how Obama has been an asterisk in the history books as US President because he has been completely over-shadowed as a victim of the Bush administration! LOL! (Carter may be dying, but at least he can die happy now knowing he won't go down in history as the worst President, that Obama has taken that title from him before he passes!)

When Bush left office the national debt was $10.6 Trillion he was responsible for all of that. Why didn't he balance the national books like all custodians of debt are supposed to?

Actually it was more like 13 trillion.

The bush boy kept his wars and prescription drug benefit off the budget. They were all funded by "emergency" bills for funding.

When Obama was elected and took office that debt was added to the budget. All of a sudden the national debt skyrocketed to around 13 trillion dollars.

 

[Dad2three]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

Oh nominal dollars, NOT adjusted for inflation/pop growth shocking

Hint US debt the first day Obama was responsible for it, OCT 1, 2009 (the start of the F/Y like EVERY other US Prez) was nearly $12 trillion Bubs *(and the consequences of 8 years of Dubya/GOP policies coming up FAST!

If you want to use the total public debt outstanding totals then Obama was at 12 trillion on Oct. 1st of 2009 and he now is at 18 trillion as of now. He's essentially increasing the national debt by a trillion a year. It would have been more except sequestration kept him from spending what he wanted!

NOW give the POLICIES that Obama used to "create" that debt, like TWO UNFUNDED TAX CUTS, 2 UNFUNDED WARS, UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION THAT COSTS AS MUCH THIS DECADE AS OBAMACARES, WHICH WAS 100% FUNDED!


Oops

Give me the policies that Obama used to lessen the debt?

And if you think ObamaCare is 100% funded then you're about as naive as they come! They cooked the books on that right from the get go and anyone with 8th grade math skills and a little common sense knew it!

CBO says get rid of Obamacares and debt increases. Weird right?

HE INCREASED TAXES ON THOSE (CHINES/MEXICAN) "JOB CREATORS" SO THE US TREASURY GETS MORE REVENUES FROM THOSE MAKING $400,000+ (INDIV) (He wanted $200,000, BUT THE PARTY OF NO REFUSED)

He stopped the Dubya/GOP recession from turning into GOP great depression 2.0 (that was HUGE)




NOW YOUR TURN? Which policies did Obama use to increase debt?

 

[nuhuh]

Can you name the specific Obama programs that led to this massive debt?

I'd like to see them

President Obama added over $6 Trillion to the national debt in only 4 years, and that is after declaring Bush to be 'Un-Patriotic' for adding only $4 Trillion in 8 (EIGHT) years...during 2 wars, 9/11/01, and the economic shutdown caused by 9/11/01. (Liberals never like to talk about how the govt control the nation's purse strings and that DEMOCRATS controlled that budget and those purse strings with a super-majority control of the House and Senate for the last 2 years of the Bush administration through the 1st 2 years of the Obama administration...so any economic dip experienced that Obama inherited was OWNED by the Democratic party that controlled both houses of Congress....NOT BUSH!)

OBAMA (and his Democrats running Congress) set national records for 'Monthly', 'Annual', and 'Total' deficit Spending. Obama added more debt in his 1st 4 years than EVERY US President from Washington to Bush ... COMBINED!

Obama's FAILED Stimulus Bill, falsely 'sold' as a jobs creation bill, cost nearly $1 TRILLION Dollars ($875 BILLION) and contained an Obama-Promise-Breaking 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY PORK. It contained such FAILED programs as 'Cash for Clunkers' which caused used car prices to sky rocket (used cars turned in were destroyed - hurting poor families who could not afford new cars) .. and in the end the cost to taxpayers for EVERY JOB claimed to have been 'created / saved' was $742,000!

That's a good start.... NOW please start making excuses, whining, defending Obama, declaring 'uh-uh', and claiming how Obama was just another 'victim' who was handed a bad hand (by a DNC super-Majority-controlled Congress, not Bush), how he was forced at gunpoint to pass the Stimulus bill, how it was somehow Bush's fault that the US Credit Rating was down-graded for the 1st time in US history even though it was Obama who was warned that if he failed to accept more budget cuts to show he was serious about lowering the deficit (which he refused to do) that it would result in the down-grade!

Show us some more of that buck-passing, liberal lack of accountability, and 'disease' that is demonstrated by always blaming a man who hasn't been President for nearly a decade rather than addressing the guy who has been in office for the last 7 years and who is in office NOW! Tell us again how Obama has been an asterisk in the history books as US President because he has been completely over-shadowed as a victim of the Bush administration! LOL! (Carter may be dying, but at least he can die happy now knowing he won't go down in history as the worst President, that Obama has taken that title from him before he passes!)

When Bush left office the national debt was $10.6 Trillion he was responsible for all of that. Why didn't he balance the national books like all custodians of debt are supposed to?

Actually it was more like 13 trillion.

The bush boy kept his wars and prescription drug benefit off the budget. They were all funded by "emergency" bills for funding.

When Obama was elected and took office that debt was added to the budget. All of a sudden the national debt skyrocketed to around 13 trillion dollars.

Oddly, the entire debt became Obama's and the Republican presidents who could not perform a basic accounting function all became Obama's problem. I really like the way they pulled that off.

 

[Dad2three]

What's pathetic is that Barack Obama managed to spend more than Bush while losing ground in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iran and the Ukraine. He managed to spend more than Bush while overseeing the worst recovery from a recession in modern economic history. He managed to spend more than Bush while our schools got worse. He managed to spend more than Bush while the illegal immigration situation became as bad as it's ever been. He managed to spend more than Bush while the average American's disposable income decreased.

How do you DO that? I mean seriously...how can anyone be THAT inept?

GOP: "We crashed the economy but don't like the way you fixed it, AS we refused to help push"

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"How the Republican Government shutdown works"

...to the benefit of democrats.

That the GOP is considering a 'shutdown' of the Federal government concerning funding for Planned Parenthood reveals the partisan idiocy common to most Congressional republicans, particularly given the fact that the motive for their 'shutdown' is predicated on lies with regard to Planned Parenthood.

Even the likes of McConnell knows a republican 'shutdown' of government is idiocy, where the non-issue republicans are 'protesting' is lost exposing republican contempt for sound, responsible governance.

 

[Carla_Danger]

Who are these people that think a shutdown is going to devastate their lives? What a bunch of freeloaders.

Why don't you ask people who work in the travel industry.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Reagan took us from 700 billion to 2 trillion in debt.

Obama took us from 6 trillion to 13 trillion in a year and a half less than Reagan.

So let's do the math on that, Kiddies? Who's the guy who buried us in debt and who's not?

Oh nominal dollars, NOT adjusted for inflation/pop growth shocking

Hint US debt the first day Obama was responsible for it, OCT 1, 2009 (the start of the F/Y like EVERY other US Prez) was nearly $12 trillion Bubs *(and the consequences of 8 years of Dubya/GOP policies coming up FAST!

If you want to use the total public debt outstanding totals then Obama was at 12 trillion on Oct. 1st of 2009 and he now is at 18 trillion as of now. He's essentially increasing the national debt by a trillion a year. It would have been more except sequestration kept him from spending what he wanted!

NOW give the POLICIES that Obama used to "create" that debt, like TWO UNFUNDED TAX CUTS, 2 UNFUNDED WARS, UNFUNDED MEDICARE EXPANSION THAT COSTS AS MUCH THIS DECADE AS OBAMACARES, WHICH WAS 100% FUNDED!


Oops

Give me the policies that Obama used to lessen the debt?

And if you think ObamaCare is 100% funded then you're about as naive as they come! They cooked the books on that right from the get go and anyone with 8th grade math skills and a little common sense knew it!

CBO says get rid of Obamacares and debt increases. Weird right?

HE INCREASED TAXES ON THOSE (CHINES/MEXICAN) "JOB CREATORS" SO THE US TREASURY GETS MORE REVENUES FROM THOSE MAKING $400,000+ (INDIV) (He wanted $200,000, BUT THE PARTY OF NO REFUSED)

He stopped the Dubya/GOP recession from turning into GOP great depression 2.0 (that was HUGE)




NOW YOUR TURN? Which policies did Obama use to increase debt?

Obama cut infrastructure, science and education all the way back to the early 1990's. The only thing I could see is maybe a little more welfare spending...But that is mostly because of the republican depression..

What's sick is the reality the republicans are blaming Obama's policies for what Bush did. Fucking liars.

 

[ScienceRocks]

What's pathetic is that Barack Obama managed to spend more than Bush while losing ground in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, Iran and the Ukraine. He managed to spend more than Bush while overseeing the worst recovery from a recession in modern economic history. He managed to spend more than Bush while our schools got worse. He managed to spend more than Bush while the illegal immigration situation became as bad as it's ever been. He managed to spend more than Bush while the average American's disposable income decreased.

How do you DO that? I mean seriously...how can anyone be THAT inept?

GOP: "We crashed the economy but don't like the way you fixed it, AS we refused to help push"

Now they want us to gut infrastructure, science, r&d, education and anything that helps Americans...Why? Because that is the plan. The republicans want to destroy this country so the rich can rule over a bunch of piss poor peons.