How To Kill an Entitlement... Let Obamacare implode..

[JGalt]

How To Kill an Entitlement... Let Obamacare implode..

As I watched the vote last night it occurred to me that everyone failed last night.

The republicans failed because they played partisan bickering politics. John McCain just gave the whole lot of them cover because he has nothing further to lose. His days are numbered. WE had 7 years to get our shit together and be a cohesive team and we failed.

The democrats failed because when they passed this pile of crap they did it on their own and now they will have no one to blame but themselves when this thing dies later this year and over 5 million lose their insurances in December. No one is talking about that however, but these companies have told us they are pulling out of over 14 states and over 280 counties nation wide.

IN an upcoming election year its going to be the ones who can show who are responsible for the huge crash coming that will pick up seats in both houses.

With both sides taking their balls and going home, unwilling to work with each other, its going to be a massive failure. The only way we as Americans survive the coming crash is to tell the fed to go pound sand and elect new blood who are not ingrained in Washington drivel..

I lost my insurance when Obamacare was enacted and I have been unable to obtain reasonable insurance anywhere since.

Let the damn thing implode and force everyone off of the public dole.. Democrats own this pile of crap and they should be made to wear it around their necks like a millstone. I for one will loudly and clearly place the blame where it belongs.. On democrats first and then republicans who haven't got the balls to kill it.. These ignorant bastards are thinking of their own power and not those who employ them.

Time to tar and feather the swampers in DC and run them out on a rail..

Not everyone failed. Donald Trump continued to win because nobody is blaming him for the failure to repeal Obamacare right now. He ran on that platform and stuck with it, even some of those turncoat Republicans in Congress let him down.

Lack of leadership on our Presidents part

He has no knowledge or interest in what Obamacare actually does and no knowledge or interest in any of the Republican plans

What are the Republican's plans? To continue the policies of Barack Obama?

Every one of those Republicans ran on a platform of repealing Obamacare, and not a single one of them even voted for it when it was passed. Donald Trump also ran on the platform of repealing Obamacare and together, they took control of the entire Congress. The problem does not lie in Trump's leadership, but rather in those Republicans who are not living to to their conservative values.

I am already working on the campaign to see my state's Democratic Senator replaced by a conservative Republican in the next midterms.

No one had a plan for replacing Obamacare when the time came. They had 7 years to come up with something. Trump had no plan as a matter of fact he has no clue about the issue.

Even the ranking Democrats in Congress have admitted that Obamacare has problems. So where are their solutions? They still want to double down on their failure and move to a single-payer system, which would be a total clusterfuck.

 

[Billy_Bob]

How To Kill an Entitlement... Let Obamacare implode..

As I watched the vote last night it occurred to me that everyone failed last night.

The republicans failed because they played partisan bickering politics. John McCain just gave the whole lot of them cover because he has nothing further to lose. His days are numbered. WE had 7 years to get our shit together and be a cohesive team and we failed.

The democrats failed because when they passed this pile of crap they did it on their own and now they will have no one to blame but themselves when this thing dies later this year and over 5 million lose their insurances in December. No one is talking about that however, but these companies have told us they are pulling out of over 14 states and over 280 counties nation wide.

IN an upcoming election year its going to be the ones who can show who are responsible for the huge crash coming that will pick up seats in both houses.

With both sides taking their balls and going home, unwilling to work with each other, its going to be a massive failure. The only way we as Americans survive the coming crash is to tell the fed to go pound sand and elect new blood who are not ingrained in Washington drivel..

I lost my insurance when Obamacare was enacted and I have been unable to obtain reasonable insurance anywhere since.

Let the damn thing implode and force everyone off of the public dole.. Democrats own this pile of crap and they should be made to wear it around their necks like a millstone. I for one will loudly and clearly place the blame where it belongs.. On democrats first and then republicans who haven't got the balls to kill it.. These ignorant bastards are thinking of their own power and not those who employ them.

Time to tar and feather the swampers in DC and run them out on a rail..

Voters will blame Republicans especially since they have done everything they can to undermine it. They refuse to enforce the law. They refuse to fully fund the subsidies. That is why companies are either pulling out or raising premiums because they don't know what Republicans will do.

Bull Shit!

This was unsustainable from day one. It was designed to crash.. Had Hillary won she would be trying like hell for single payer socialist care.

 

[busybee01]

I don't remember him ever saying while he was campaigning, that he wanted to lower taxes for upper income people, or profit from being President. The guy even donated his first quarter salary and worked for free..

You sound like a Trump associate talking to congress. In fact, not only did Trump say he wanted to cut the tax rate for top earners, but for capital gains. As far as donating his salary, he more than made up for the $400K loss, by charging the secret service $2 Million a year to protect Trump Tower. Not to mention millions to protect Mar-a-lago, and his golf course in New Jersey.

Seriously? That's a drop in the bucket compared to what Michelle Obama spent on her vacations. You're not seeing the big picture here.

How To Kill an Entitlement... Let Obamacare implode..

As I watched the vote last night it occurred to me that everyone failed last night.

The republicans failed because they played partisan bickering politics. John McCain just gave the whole lot of them cover because he has nothing further to lose. His days are numbered. WE had 7 years to get our shit together and be a cohesive team and we failed.

The democrats failed because when they passed this pile of crap they did it on their own and now they will have no one to blame but themselves when this thing dies later this year and over 5 million lose their insurances in December. No one is talking about that however, but these companies have told us they are pulling out of over 14 states and over 280 counties nation wide.

IN an upcoming election year its going to be the ones who can show who are responsible for the huge crash coming that will pick up seats in both houses.

With both sides taking their balls and going home, unwilling to work with each other, its going to be a massive failure. The only way we as Americans survive the coming crash is to tell the fed to go pound sand and elect new blood who are not ingrained in Washington drivel..

I lost my insurance when Obamacare was enacted and I have been unable to obtain reasonable insurance anywhere since.

Let the damn thing implode and force everyone off of the public dole.. Democrats own this pile of crap and they should be made to wear it around their necks like a millstone. I for one will loudly and clearly place the blame where it belongs.. On democrats first and then republicans who haven't got the balls to kill it.. These ignorant bastards are thinking of their own power and not those who employ them.

Time to tar and feather the swampers in DC and run them out on a rail..

Any failure of Obamacare from this point on is wholly the fault of the GOP,

since the voters gave them the opportunity to fix it and they chose not to.

HIS voters did NOT want it fixed WE wanted it DEAD.

Voters prefer Obamacare over the Republican plans by a 2-1 margin. That means that many people who voted for Trump do not support Republican healthcare plans. Even Fox polls show that Obamacare has become more popular.

How To Kill an Entitlement... Let Obamacare implode..

As I watched the vote last night it occurred to me that everyone failed last night.

The republicans failed because they played partisan bickering politics. John McCain just gave the whole lot of them cover because he has nothing further to lose. His days are numbered. WE had 7 years to get our shit together and be a cohesive team and we failed.

The democrats failed because when they passed this pile of crap they did it on their own and now they will have no one to blame but themselves when this thing dies later this year and over 5 million lose their insurances in December. No one is talking about that however, but these companies have told us they are pulling out of over 14 states and over 280 counties nation wide.

IN an upcoming election year its going to be the ones who can show who are responsible for the huge crash coming that will pick up seats in both houses.

With both sides taking their balls and going home, unwilling to work with each other, its going to be a massive failure. The only way we as Americans survive the coming crash is to tell the fed to go pound sand and elect new blood who are not ingrained in Washington drivel..

I lost my insurance when Obamacare was enacted and I have been unable to obtain reasonable insurance anywhere since.

Let the damn thing implode and force everyone off of the public dole.. Democrats own this pile of crap and they should be made to wear it around their necks like a millstone. I for one will loudly and clearly place the blame where it belongs.. On democrats first and then republicans who haven't got the balls to kill it.. These ignorant bastards are thinking of their own power and not those who employ them.

Time to tar and feather the swampers in DC and run them out on a rail..

Not everyone failed. Donald Trump continued to win because nobody is blaming him for the failure to repeal Obamacare right now. He ran on that platform and stuck with it, even some of those turncoat Republicans in Congress let him down.

Lack of leadership on our Presidents part

He has no knowledge or interest in what Obamacare actually does and no knowledge or interest in any of the Republican plans

What are the Republican's plans? To continue the policies of Barack Obama?

Every one of those Republicans ran on a platform of repealing Obamacare, and not a single one of them even voted for it when it was passed. Donald Trump also ran on the platform of repealing Obamacare and together, they took control of the entire Congress. The problem does not lie in Trump's leadership, but rather in those Republicans who are not living to to their conservative values.

I am already working on the campaign to see my state's Democratic Senator replaced by a conservative Republican in the next midterms.

WINNER!!!!

Any Republican and all Democrats who voted no or were wishy-washy on this need to be replaced with conservatives.. period!

With Republicans who tell low income people to drop dead. Conservatives like Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp were problem solvers who wanted less government interference. Rand Paul is not a conservative. He is a extremist.

 

[Tax Man]

The PPACA is not going to implode. Saint Ray Goon was a problem maker!!! This country was far better off prior to his regime taking power.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The PPACA is not going to implode. Saint Ray Goon was a problem maker!!! This country was far better off prior to his regime taking power.

Are you still plugged into the Obama money stash? Where are you getting your magical money from? Who is going to pay for it?

 

[rightwinger]

No Republican has stated what they plan to do if Obamacare implodes?

What happens to the people who are affected
What makes Republicans think they can replace it with something better? They couldn't do it this week

 

[Billy_Bob]

Bailout for health care and Subsidies for congress critters will not be signed into law.. Trump just tweeted he will not sign them.. The implosion is now imminent and congress is in the same boat as every single American.... The congressional health care plan is now on the chopping block as well.

GO TRUMP!

Everyone treated the same....!! ABOUT DAMN TIME! Congress (republican and democrat alike) is getting a much needed wake up call...

 

[usmbguest5318]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

 

[koshergrl]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway. Either way, Trump wins.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway.

And now that Trump has placed the congressional healthcare funding in the same pool as every American's, things are about to get real interesting.. No Bail out for insurance companies and No Subsidies for congress's health care system. That's got to sting...

 

[usmbguest5318]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway.

Well, nobody can likely deter you or Trump or Trumpkins from assigning primacy to political gain over people's health and lives.

 

[koshergrl]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

You're a fucking idiot. Seriously. The weird stuff you people freak out over, while ignoring reality and the real issues, freaks normal people out.

 

[usmbguest5318]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

You're a fucking idiot. Seriously. The weird stuff you people freak out over, while ignoring reality and the real issues, freaks normal people out.

Whatever....

 

[koshergrl]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway.

Well, nobody can likely deter you or Trump or Trumpkins from assigning primacy to political gain over people's health and lives.

See, that's exactly what the "kill baby Gard" monsters believe in. Not me.

 

[usmbguest5318]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway.

Well, nobody can likely deter you or Trump or Trumpkins from assigning primacy to political gain over people's health and lives.

See, that's exactly what the "kill baby Gard" monsters believe in. Not me.

You just keep thinking that....

 

[koshergrl]

The government, and most especially the POTUS' job is to fix things, not let them implode. Trump's exhortation to that effect is, AFAIC, an unmitigated dereliction of his duty as POTUS. Trump doesn't need to embrace O-care, but he does have an obligation not to allow millions of Americans to suffer as a result of O-care's inadequacies.

Presidents get to "inherit" the glory accruing from the positive things their predecessor wrought, but they also "inherit" the onus to correct the shortcomings.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway.

Well, nobody can likely deter you or Trump or Trumpkins from assigning primacy to political gain over people's health and lives.

See, that's exactly what the "kill baby Gard" monsters believe in. Not me.

You just keep thinking that....

I do think that. And so do the majority of this country. Trust me, communist death panel proponents are not beloved among free men and women of the world.

 

[Billy_Bob]

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him. Now it will implode.and those pigs will lose their seats.

He tried to fix it. Republicans prevented him.

Obviously, Trump didn't "try" hard enough and the approach and ideas he presented in "trying" were inadequate. Given Trump's blatantly inaccurate remark from earlier this year -- "Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated" -- and his unprecedentedly short attention span and apparent disdain for "dirtying his hands" by fully mastering and resolving complex topics, it's no surprise his efforts have fallen short of what's needed to ameliorate the ACA's ills while also not vitiating its positive features and beneficial processes and outcomes.

He tried exactly the right amount. It's win/win for him .Obamacare is going down. If the Republicans support him to destroy it, fine. If they don't, they'll be exposed and voted out..and it will go down anyway.

Well, nobody can likely deter you or Trump or Trumpkins from assigning primacy to political gain over people's health and lives.

See, that's exactly what the "kill baby Gard" monsters believe in. Not me.

You just keep thinking that....

I do think that. And so do the majority of this country. Trust me, communist death panel proponents are not beloved among free men and women of the world.

Just look at the backlash in Britain over that baby.. There is going to be a huge turnover in their parliament due to that.. Even the more elderly are concerned just how far they are willing to go about killing them if its fits the narrative of bureaucrats.

 

[Tax Man]

The PPACA is not going to implode. Saint Ray Goon was a problem maker!!! This country was far better off prior to his regime taking power.

Are you still plugged into the Obama money stash? Where are you getting your magical money from? Who is going to pay for it?

I earn my money by working and having people who work for me. And Saint Ronnie screwed up America.

 

[whitehall]

I guess that's what's gonna have to happen. Somehow the left will find a way to blame Trump.

 

[koshergrl]

I guess that's what's gonna have to happen. Somehow the left will find a way to blame Trump.

They need to be removed.