iceberg
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she gets it just fine.The repubs didnt fork over 5B either. Nobody wants the dumb wall. Why do you think it has failed for the past 2 years when repubs were in control?Wait........wut?
Hope that the current system ripe with corruption and mass spending and debt somehow finds Jesus and figures it out?
Here is an idea, let's tell the party that can't fork over $5 billion for a border wall to go to hell.
My question Asclepias
Why not ask for more than just a Wall?
What about Walls of schools, of teaching hospitals and campus housing
all across the border?
Why not demand that the Walls that are built be the Walls of sustainable
structures to provide jobs, housing and education and services?
If Republicans are demanding 5 billion for just the external security
why not also demand Matching Funds for programs that are going to
help people to access services WITHOUT having to cross the border illegally?
Between Mexico that owes restitution for cartel crimes and collusion
involving govt corruption, as well as the traffickers themselves who owe
restitution to victims, all the countries whose citizens have been victimized,
trafficked and/or fleeing deserve safe shelter BEFORE and INSTEAD of
seeking illegal entry. So why not work with these countries to set up
alternatives on the Mexican side of the border? And grant tracks of land
and shares of ownership in campus towns and city states to workers
to develop their own communities and programs so they enjoy full
rights of democracy that are supposed to be the goal here?
Texas was developed by giving land grants to settlers to work the land.
Why not follow the wisdom of Peruvian Economist De Soto who preached
that the solution to stopping abuse and trafficking of migrant workers is to
let them work to own the land where their jobs are. Ownership will end
the cycle of poverty, and stop this whole vicious cycle of political infighting for control.
If Republicans are REAL about free enterprise and the empowerment of property ownership
where people are no longer dependent on party or government to be in charge of managing for themselves.
If Democrats are REAL about equal inclusion, empowerment and justice for minority classes,
then both sides should unite in promoting sustainable business development along the border.
Instead of just empty walls, why not build whole cities?
And fill those walls with schools, teaching hospitals, campus
jobs and housing to solve the problems of poverty and the
criminal trafficking taking advantage of poor workers?
The beauty of a wall is that it is plain for all to see. You build it and then can't change your mind a second later, can't funnel the money back out of the wall without anyone looking, does not even matter if you get politicians in there that hate it. it just sits there doing a job our political leaders should be trying to do but are too corrupt to do.
Dear Votto
We need more than just a Wall.
Mexico needs to reclaim its own land back from the drug cartels and corrupt officials letting them run amok.
By developing sustainable businesses, campuses, hospital districts and whole city states along the border,
that will solve both the problems of economic instability causing the influx
and the problem of criminal trafficking.
Don't you think it's more unifying to address BOTH the economic causes,
the criminal and the security issues with ONE SOLUTION?
How can you separate the security issues from the criminal trafficking and poverty pimping
that is sending people by droves, lured by these coyotes and traffickers.
Why not solve all problems by uniting to build sustainable development
at the same time we are planning a wall?
Would you build a house by just starting with one wall?
Wouldn't you plan the overall structure instead of fighting over what good is one wall
going to do, versus what else you plan to build in addition to that wall?
You really are not getting this.
We just had a horde of immigrants traveling to the border all the way from Honduras bypassing all other countries along the way.
Now are we to believe that there are no decent hospitals between here and there? If not, then we have an even bigger problem here that won't be solved with your solution.
As for criminal activity, the only way to curb it is to secure the border, and not having a wall in trying to do that will only make the attempt that much harder.
most people bitch and moan about how their side is getting the shaft in all this, ergo they won't budge. her recommendations are along the lines of "grow up and work together" and i'm into that 100%.