Hows that Sanctuary State worken for ya California?

Sorry to break it to you but odds are that our country will become more socialist with the onset of robots and automation. Unless a new industry of millions of jobs that robots can’t do is magically is created, there is going to be no other way to take care of the poor and unemployed.


So you want more people here?


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I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.



How do we afford it then?

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They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

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How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.
 
I don’t invite them to live in my house either. But I think anybody who has the determination to work and earn a living should be given that opportunity so they can have a joise of their own.

Really what is it that threatens you so much? Are you worried about your ability to compete against them? Think they will take your job or something?

Actually they are. Our road is loaded with tractor-trailer drivers who not only can't handle the vehicle, but can't even read the road signs.

What am I afraid of? The Democrats taking over the entire country. When they accomplish that (unless we stop them) it will quickly lead to Socialism and then Communism. That's what I'm afraid of. A country where the Constitution is made null and void, a country where all history of how great this country once was is destroyed.

In the current time, they are forcing us to be a bilingual country. They are keeping our wages down. They are taking American dollars and shipping those dollars back over the border. They are closing our hospitals and destroying neighborhoods. They are murdering our people and bringing drugs along with them.
Sorry to break it to you but odds are that our country will become more socialist with the onset of robots and automation. Unless a new industry of millions of jobs that robots can’t do is magically is created, there is going to be no other way to take care of the poor and unemployed.


So you want more people here?


.
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?
 
I don’t think I’m selling anybody down the river. We are all one people living in one world. The USA has always been a land of opportunity for all to pursue the American dream and that is what has made our country great. So I don’t buy into the nationalism/closed border propaganda

You obviously do not know the difference between legal immigration and closed borders.

Everyone wants legal immigration, no one wants open borders. A country without borders is not a country.
All I’ve done is advocate for legal immigration. I’m not calling for open borders. I think our legal system needs reform. But your wrong about everybody wanting legal immigration. There are a bunch of wingnuts here that want to shut the border down and not let anybody else in.

And I'm one of those people. I think the border should be closed until we at least return to an English only speaking society. Then we can be assured what we have now assimilated into our country.
Yes Ray, you are a great example of the type of wingnut that I was referring to
 
Howes that Sanctuary State worken for ya California?

It is getting cops and civilians killed.
We prefer to blame the general government of the Union. We should have no illegal problem simply Because we don't have an Immigration clause. It is a naturalization clause. Lousy right wing federal management is the Problem. California should insist the general government solve this lousy right wing management problem in a Constitutional manner.
 
Actually they are. Our road is loaded with tractor-trailer drivers who not only can't handle the vehicle, but can't even read the road signs.

What am I afraid of? The Democrats taking over the entire country. When they accomplish that (unless we stop them) it will quickly lead to Socialism and then Communism. That's what I'm afraid of. A country where the Constitution is made null and void, a country where all history of how great this country once was is destroyed.

In the current time, they are forcing us to be a bilingual country. They are keeping our wages down. They are taking American dollars and shipping those dollars back over the border. They are closing our hospitals and destroying neighborhoods. They are murdering our people and bringing drugs along with them.
Sorry to break it to you but odds are that our country will become more socialist with the onset of robots and automation. Unless a new industry of millions of jobs that robots can’t do is magically is created, there is going to be no other way to take care of the poor and unemployed.


So you want more people here?


.
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?

The people hopping over the border are not screened for anything. Even if they were, it's not a guarantee of anything.

Mexican Wanted for Double Homicide Admitted to U.S. on H-2B Visa
 
So you want more people here?


.
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.



How do we afford it then?

.
They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
 
Sorry to break it to you but odds are that our country will become more socialist with the onset of robots and automation. Unless a new industry of millions of jobs that robots can’t do is magically is created, there is going to be no other way to take care of the poor and unemployed.


So you want more people here?


.
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?

The people hopping over the border are not screened for anything. Even if they were, it's not a guarantee of anything.

Mexican Wanted for Double Homicide Admitted to U.S. on H-2B Visa
I don’t support people hopping the border I support a better legal system. Have you not been paying attention to what I say? Am I wasting my time talking to you?
 
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.



How do we afford it then?

.
They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
Sales tax is part of it but if they are in the system then they pay income tax and their employers pay employment tax. If they own a house they pay property tax. If they own a business then they pay business tax. See what happens when people are part of the system?
 
How do we afford it then?

.
They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
Sales tax is part of it but if they are in the system then they pay income tax and their employers pay employment tax. If they own a house they pay property tax. If they own a business then they pay business tax. See what happens when people are part of the system?

Sure...IF.
 
They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
Sales tax is part of it but if they are in the system then they pay income tax and their employers pay employment tax. If they own a house they pay property tax. If they own a business then they pay business tax. See what happens when people are part of the system?

Sure...IF.
Well the IF comes with reform and creating a better system than we currently have
 
So you want more people here?


.
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?

The people hopping over the border are not screened for anything. Even if they were, it's not a guarantee of anything.

Mexican Wanted for Double Homicide Admitted to U.S. on H-2B Visa
I don’t support people hopping the border I support a better legal system. Have you not been paying attention to what I say? Am I wasting my time talking to you?

Oh but you do though...if you didn’t you wouldn’t support rewarding those here who have shit in our face with a form of citizenship.
 
How do we afford it then?

.
They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
Sales tax is part of it but if they are in the system then they pay income tax and their employers pay employment tax. If they own a house they pay property tax. If they own a business then they pay business tax. See what happens when people are part of the system?

I seriously doubt they pay income tax. Nearly half of the people in our country don't.
 
So you want more people here?


.
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?

The people hopping over the border are not screened for anything. Even if they were, it's not a guarantee of anything.

Mexican Wanted for Double Homicide Admitted to U.S. on H-2B Visa
I don’t support people hopping the border I support a better legal system. Have you not been paying attention to what I say? Am I wasting my time talking to you?

Seems like I'm wasting my time talking to you. I told you repeatedly that the United States is the most generous country in the world when it comes to immigration, and according to the left, that's still not good enough. We have the most lenient laws for people that come here anyway, and that's still not good enough.
 
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?

The people hopping over the border are not screened for anything. Even if they were, it's not a guarantee of anything.

Mexican Wanted for Double Homicide Admitted to U.S. on H-2B Visa
I don’t support people hopping the border I support a better legal system. Have you not been paying attention to what I say? Am I wasting my time talking to you?

Oh but you do though...if you didn’t you wouldn’t support rewarding those here who have shit in our face with a form of citizenship.
How do I want to reward them?
 
They take care of themselves and contribute to society


They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
Sales tax is part of it but if they are in the system then they pay income tax and their employers pay employment tax. If they own a house they pay property tax. If they own a business then they pay business tax. See what happens when people are part of the system?

I seriously doubt they pay income tax. Nearly half of the people in our country don't.
IF THEY ARE IN THE SYSTEM THEY PAY TAXES... IT BENEFITS THE COUNTRY. Let that soak in. I’m saying fix the system and get people in it, not hiding in the shadows while you pursue the impossible agenda of mass deportation.
 
I don’t care one way or another. If people want to come then let them come, if people want to go let them go.

So isn't that the definition of a borderless society?
Not at all. People coming in are still screened and need to register. How is that borderless?

The people hopping over the border are not screened for anything. Even if they were, it's not a guarantee of anything.

Mexican Wanted for Double Homicide Admitted to U.S. on H-2B Visa
I don’t support people hopping the border I support a better legal system. Have you not been paying attention to what I say? Am I wasting my time talking to you?

Seems like I'm wasting my time talking to you. I told you repeatedly that the United States is the most generous country in the world when it comes to immigration, and according to the left, that's still not good enough. We have the most lenient laws for people that come here anyway, and that's still not good enough.
I listen to what you say and make counter arguments because I have a different view. I don’t play the games that you and others do when you regurgitate inaccurate descriptions of the points I make. It’s a low IQ move. Grow up and reflect understanding of your opponents argument and debate it based on merit not lies.
 
They don't contribute and they bankrupt our health care

.
How do they bankrupt our country? And if they are in the system then they pay taxes.

Dang, are we getting suggesting that paying sales taxes is the same as paying all the other taxes working Americans pay?
Sales tax is part of it but if they are in the system then they pay income tax and their employers pay employment tax. If they own a house they pay property tax. If they own a business then they pay business tax. See what happens when people are part of the system?

I seriously doubt they pay income tax. Nearly half of the people in our country don't.
IF THEY ARE IN THE SYSTEM THEY PAY TAXES... IT BENEFITS THE COUNTRY. Let that soak in. I’m saying fix the system and get people in it, not hiding in the shadows while you pursue the impossible agenda of mass deportation.
Capitalism; What is That, Sayeth the Right Wing.
 

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