Missouri_Mike
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You left wing morons are always trying to “broaden” the meaning of things. Socialism is just paying taxes. Without all of the other stuff that freedom entails. Just taxes.Again, you people really don’t understand the concept of socialism. It’s a very broad term, but paying taxes regardless of the purpose is SOCIALSM. Moreover, socialism and capitalism while different, are not mutually exclusive ideas. These are ideas that have coexisted since the beginning of this country. I mean my god, what do you think our monetary system is? It’s socialism.Lol you do know that people have paid taxes since the beginning right?To them, it’s a completely leftwing ideology when in reality it’s been part of the framework of the country since the beginning. The founders had socialist ideas after all. They basically were leftists. It’s also stupid to say that communism and socialism are the same thing when in reality communism is simply an example of socialism. Socialism itself is a very broad term that can’t be defined simply.
Also, isn’t Trump the bigger socialist than Obama? His bailout to farmers was twice as big as Obama’s bailout. Are republicans going to pretend that isn’t socialism?
James Madison:
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”
Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, SNAP, Obama phones, welfare, public housing, infrastructure spending.....
Do you need me to go on?
Nothing socialist about the founding fathers. They were nearly the exact, and complete opposite.
For the defense of the country? Of course. There would be no country, without taxation to fund the defense of the country.
Doesn't change the fact that our country wasn't built on socialist principals, or ideals. Instead the exact opposite is what turned this country, the youngest in a world of nations that were hundreds almost thousands of years older, into the lone super power in the world.
It was capitalism that did that, not socialism. This is why you see more socialized countries all over the world, some with vast natural resources, that still can't hold a candle to the US.
By any measure, by every perspective, we are a nation that is only wealthy and a world power today, because of capitalism. Not socialism. Only the most ignorant, and arrogant, could even pretend to claim otherwise.
Killing children isn’t murder either. Pro-choice, women’s health etc. yet in the end it all results in dead kids. Just like your taxes are socialism so stop fighting it. Death and misery are still the end result. No matter how broad you want to define it.