If a fetus is a child, does that mean men should be legally required to assist a woman during her pregnancy?

[DukeU]

Why would marriage need to be required for this?

I think you have stumbled onto something here.

See what it leads to when you don't teach kids correctly. It leads to your OP.

 

[Calypso Jones]

Why would marriage need to be required for this?

BECAUSE BillyZERO, it is best for the child, the mother, and even the guy that did the impregnating. It just might mature him....it might make him into the man that he was supposed to be!! and it is good for society and the country. and both families too.

 

[Leweman]

Aren't they? It should be encourage. My father was 17 when my sister was born. My sister's mother wasn't my mother but she was 15. I just went to my nieces wedding a month ago. I just can't imagine how people thing abortion isn't a last resort option.

 

[Calypso Jones]

That just proves it doesn't take a man to make a baby.

but it takes a man to be a father.

 

[Seymour Flops]

This is kinda off topic and I'll leave it be if too far but I don't understand why marriage has to be an agreement between two adults AND the government.

I really see no reason for the government to be involved.

I'm not sure I've ever agreed with you before, but I do now.

Let churches, or secular organizations, or bird watching clubs, or whoever one chooses, perform marriage ceremonies. The government has no need to "license" us to marry, that is a holdover from when regular people were property of the kings. Let each individual legally declare anyone they want as next of kin for purposes of their estate and medical permissions.

 

[DukeU]

Are you claiming no man has ever helped a pregnant woman without being “forced”?

No. I'm saying many don't.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Not trolling at all...all part of the "person-hood begins at con-ception [sic]" package.

The OP clearly meant the idea of a man taking responsibility of his child from conception as an argument against recognizing the humanity of that child. I don't think he expected anyone to agree with the basic premise that yes, from conception, a man ought to be responsible for his own child, and for the mothers of his child.

The problem with this argument is not that the child is not human, from conception, but that the OP (and apparently you, as well) is too immature and too averse to the very concept of responsibility to accept that yes, from conception, a child is the responsibility of his father as well as his mother.

 

[Billy000]

oh I dont know,, maybe parental responsibilities,, its worked for thousands of yrs and only in the last 100 where thats been abandoned have children turned into a mess,,

This is so moronic. Regardless of how she got pregnant, the entire point is taking care of this future child. God conservatives are stupid lol

 

[Seymour Flops]

Do tell...

Did you experience this?

If so, I hope you found a real man since then. If you're looking, there are still some left in Texas, but come quick.

 

[Billy000]

The OP clearly meant the idea of a man taking responsibility of his child from conception as an argument against recognizing the humanity of tha child. I don't think he expected anyone to agree with the basic premise that yes, from conception, a man ought to be responsible for his own child, and for the mothers of his child.

The problem with this argument is not that the child is not human, from conception, but that the OP (and apparently yo, as well) is too immature and too averse to the very concept of responsibility to accept that yes, from conception, a child is the responsibility of his father as well as his mother.

That’s bullshit. This thread is full of morons who are requiring that they be married.

 

[progressive hunter]

This is so moronic. Regardless of how she got pregnant, the entire point is taking care of this future child. God conservatives are stupid lol

theres only one way to get pregnant,,

god leftists are so stupid,,

 

[progressive hunter]

That’s bullshit. This thread is full of morons who are requiring that they be married.

god forbid a mother and father of a child be married,,

 

[Bob Blaylock]

He's falling for the liberal idea that men are a bunch of assholes who get girls pregnant and then don't support them or the baby, while also attending anti-abortion rallies.

In truth, many men - especially college age men - are assholes who get women pregnant and then pressure them to have an abortion, to avoid responsibility. Pressure from partners is by far the leading reason women give for seeking abortions.

It's a nasty feedback loop. It was the very acceptance of abortion that led to men wrongfully thinking that it is OK to evade this responsibility. And the refusal immature men to take responsibility drives the demand for abortion.

And this cycle has resulted in about sixty million deaths of innocent children—the equivalent of nearly four Nazi Holocausts.

 

[initforme]

Less pregnancies is truly the answer to all of this. The run on plan b and other contraception bodes incredibly well for the nation. There will be less kids conceived, born, and abortion goes away. See how it all works?

 

[initforme]

Marriage is becoming less and less emphasized. Capitalism is all about making the dollar and nothing else. Don't complain when birth rates drop more and more. People want to enjoy life. Cannot blame them.

 

[Billy000]

THIS exemplifies the root of the problem with the godless left

Fuck your fictional “God”.

 

[struth]

Makes sense to me.

Financial and physical assistance.

well yeah

 

[progressive hunter]

Marriage is becoming less and less emphasized. Capitalism is all about making the dollar and nothing else. Don't complain when birth rates drop more and more. People want to enjoy life. Cannot blame them.

theres no bigger joy than watching your children grow up,,

 

[Vastator]

Makes sense to me.

Financial and physical assistance.

If a woman has at least 3 ways to walk away from the responsibility of a decsion they've come to regret...
Should a man have at least one..?

Asking for a friend....

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Makes sense to me.

Financial and physical assistance.

What?
What planet do you live on?
Ever hear of child support? Split custody etc?
This already exist