If a mother killing her own unborn child isn't wrong, then really, is anything wrong?

[jc456]

Under certain circumstance, yes. Cry somewhere else. You are wasting your time.

Another all in on baby unaliving

 

[ding]

ding has some batty opinions, for sure. He has a right to them.

You mean like human life begins at conception? Yeah, that's a real batty belief.

 

[jc456]

That's for the states to decide. But it's a start that you don't acknowledge them as property or chattel.

The beating heart belongs to the baby, and not the mother! Forced stoppage is unaliving

 

[White 6]

Another all in on baby unaliving

If medically the correct answer. I have no intention of getting in between mother and doctor, as if I had the right, the training or superior morality. You don't either, but its kind of your thing.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You are wrong, Ding. God says life starts at first breath. Go away.

 

[Curried Goats]

That's for the states to decide. But it's a start that you don't acknowledge them as property or chattel.

I regard them as dependent lives.

And were LEGALLY regarded as property to be disposed of at the will of their owners.

Which still doesn't speak to any biological dependence.

 

[ding]

I regard them as dependent lives.

Which still doesn't speak to any biological dependence.

You regard them as property to be disposed of like slaves.

 

[ding]

You are wrong, Ding. God says life starts at first breath. Go away.

Are you really going to make me unleash a parade of quotes from embryologists?

Choose wisely.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You don't believe in God, ding? That's new.

 

[Curried Goats]

You regard them as property to be disposed of like slaves.

Now you're just repeating strawman that have already been burnt to the ground. I regard them as dependent lives who shouldn't have a legal right to gestate inside another independent life.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

It's not. But trying to claim the womb as the legal jurisdiction of the state requires insanely intrusive government and makes slaves of women. The insides of another person's body are none of your business. Regardless of what you think is in there.

I know this won't change your mind. For you it's very simple. Because you're a simpleton.

Ah, a leftist suggesting others are simpletons

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

dblack has idiocracy pegged correctly.

 

[Dragonlady]

If so, then the same right should be afforded to the man. No man should ever be forced to become a father.

He should be finding out what she will do if she becomes pregnant, BEFORE he has sex with her. If she says "I'm having the baby, and suing you for support", he'd better run. No man who kept it in his pants has been forced to become a father. If the man doesn't want to be a father, he should be using birth control, or keeping it in his pants.

She cannot get pregnant without him so he bears MORE of the responsibility for the pregnancy than she does.

 

[dblack]

Ah, a leftist suggesting others are simpletons

Calling me a leftist is clear evidence of your ignorance. Maybe stop typing?

 

[HeyNorm]

He should be finding out what she will do if she becomes pregnant, BEFORE he has sex with her. If she says "I'm having the baby, and suing you for support", he'd better run. No man who kept it in his pants has been forced to become a father. If the man doesn't want to be a father, he should be using birth control, or keeping it in his pants.

She cannot get pregnant without him so he bears MORE of the responsibility for the pregnancy than she does.

Men don’t have sex to have babies. Don’t be a silly goose. Everyone knows that.

 

[Dragonlady]

Men don’t have sex to have babies. Don’t be a silly goose. Everyone knows that.

Well then it's pretty stupid of them not to take precautions to protect themselves, now isn't it?

 

[HeyNorm]

Well then it's pretty stupid of them not to take precautions to protect themselves, now isn't it?

Pot calling kettle black!

You got to love the hypocrisy

 

[initforme]

There cannot be an issue once the voters decide. Nobody poly can lose is that scenarip

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

both man and woman share the responsibility equally, but if you are right, then she cannot get an abortion unless he agrees, yes

She cannot get pregnant without him so he bears MORE of the responsibility for the pregnancy than she does.

 

[jc456]

If medically the correct answer. I have no intention of getting in between mother and doctor, as if I had the right, the training or superior morality. You don't either, but its kind of your thing.

I know what unaliving is