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Indeed, it makes members of those groups “more equal than others”, and makes a mockery of the Equal Protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
So if I put a big sign in front of my business that said, "I don't serve Mormons!" you'd be totally cool with that, right?
Sure.
I wouldn't want to do business with you anyway.
To cherry pick the Bible is politically correct, Which means it’s always wrong.The Bible is absolute worthless gibberish if not taken as a whole… DumbassNo shit, Red Rider. That's the book I'm talking about. In that book, Jesus is very clear on divorce and absolutely mum on gays.Shit for brains, religion is man-made… Christianity is a face. And by the way you don’t get to determine anything about Christianity. There is a book for that dumbassThey claim they are Christian. I’d like to se the Christian Bible where Jesus condemns gays marrying but is totally cool with divorce and following other gods.
They are bigots. It has nothing to do with religion.
You're just proving my point about the hypocrisy of these so called Christians. Thanks!
You can’t just choose the parts you like, if you do that makes you a fucking coward
... then gays should be allowed to discriminate against Christians.
Agree or Disagree?
God said plenty about gays... He burned them to the ground.The bible has a lot more to say about adulterers than homosexuals. Jesus specifically addressed adultery, and never said a word about gays.The Bible says fudge packers should be culled from society.Consider who wrote it. These were ancient tribal laws from way back thousands of years ago. Read the rest of Leviticus. Read the rest of the Old Testament. There are lots of "sins" in there that specify the death penalty. Look 'em up. I guess cherry-picking is a hobby of yours.
I fail to see the problem?? ...
And yet I don't see any bakers refusing to bake a cake for people getting married for the second, third, fourth, fifth time even though they are in total violation of the bible.
That's how you know this has NOTHING to do with bible compliancy.
It is the same tired bullshit of bigots using the bible as an excuse for their inexcusable bigotry. There is a special place in the hell they claim to believe in for those kind of hypocrites.
Jesus had a great deal to say about hypocrites, too. Probably more than any other category of people.
The Bible is gibberish is not taken as a whole…
That is precisely my point! The bigots are ignoring what Jesus said about adultery. That's how you know their claims to be bible compliant are total horseshit.The Bible is gibberish is not taken as a whole…
God said plenty about gays... He burned them to the ground.The bible has a lot more to say about adulterers than homosexuals. Jesus specifically addressed adultery, and never said a word about gays.The Bible says fudge packers should be culled from society.Consider who wrote it. These were ancient tribal laws from way back thousands of years ago. Read the rest of Leviticus. Read the rest of the Old Testament. There are lots of "sins" in there that specify the death penalty. Look 'em up. I guess cherry-picking is a hobby of yours.
I fail to see the problem?? ...
And yet I don't see any bakers refusing to bake a cake for people getting married for the second, third, fourth, fifth time even though they are in total violation of the bible.
That's how you know this has NOTHING to do with bible compliancy.
It is the same tired bullshit of bigots using the bible as an excuse for their inexcusable bigotry. There is a special place in the hell they claim to believe in for those kind of hypocrites.
Jesus had a great deal to say about hypocrites, too. Probably more than any other category of people.
The Bible is gibberish is not taken as a whole…
Jesus never said a word. He spoke very strongly against divorce. Have you ever seen a baker or a florist refuse to do a wedding because one of the couples was divorced? Me neither.
It is still a man and a woman. It's not like it was a wedding between two perverts.God said plenty about gays... He burned them to the ground.The bible has a lot more to say about adulterers than homosexuals. Jesus specifically addressed adultery, and never said a word about gays.The Bible says fudge packers should be culled from society.Consider who wrote it. These were ancient tribal laws from way back thousands of years ago. Read the rest of Leviticus. Read the rest of the Old Testament. There are lots of "sins" in there that specify the death penalty. Look 'em up. I guess cherry-picking is a hobby of yours.
I fail to see the problem?? ...
And yet I don't see any bakers refusing to bake a cake for people getting married for the second, third, fourth, fifth time even though they are in total violation of the bible.
That's how you know this has NOTHING to do with bible compliancy.
It is the same tired bullshit of bigots using the bible as an excuse for their inexcusable bigotry. There is a special place in the hell they claim to believe in for those kind of hypocrites.
Jesus had a great deal to say about hypocrites, too. Probably more than any other category of people.
The Bible is gibberish is not taken as a whole…
Jesus never said a word. He spoke very strongly against divorce. Have you ever seen a baker or a florist refuse to do a wedding because one of the couples was divorced? Me neither.
As I have pointed out many many times, this whole issue is about government gifts. It has nothing to do with religion.Hey man, I have NOTHING bad to say about gays. I support gay rights. I believe that marriage is a contract and other than interpreting, enforcing, and rescinding contracts on request by a party to said contract, government has no place therein.The bible has a lot more to say about adulterers than homosexuals. Jesus specifically addressed adultery, and never said a word about gays.The Bible says fudge packers should be culled from society.Consider who wrote it. These were ancient tribal laws from way back thousands of years ago. Read the rest of Leviticus. Read the rest of the Old Testament. There are lots of "sins" in there that specify the death penalty. Look 'em up. I guess cherry-picking is a hobby of yours.
I fail to see the problem?? ...
And yet I don't see any bakers refusing to bake a cake for people getting married for the second, third, fourth, fifth time even though they are in total violation of the bible.
That's how you know this has NOTHING to do with bible compliancy.
It is the same tired bullshit of bigots using the bible as an excuse for their inexcusable bigotry. There is a special place in the hell they claim to believe in for those kind of hypocrites.
Jesus had a great deal to say about hypocrites, too. Probably more than any other category of people.
I am a friend and defender of gay rights.
But...
Using government to force one person to provide goods or services to another against his/her will, even as a condition on participation in the market, is fundamentally wrong on all levels. That is some nuclear-grade bullshit.
To support government forcing individuals to provide goods or services to other individuals is as authoritarian as it gets. No amount of good intentions can overcome that intolerable level of statism.
I agree. It's the most convenient way to fuck with other people.That is precisely my point! The bigots are ignoring what Jesus said about adultery. That's how you know their claims to be bible compliant are total horseshit.
Bigots have been using the bible has a hypocritical shield for centuries.
I am also against government forcing a business to comply with simple human decency. However, by their intransigence during the civil rights era, the bigots screwed the pooch, and now here we are.I agree. It's the most convenient way to fuck with other people.That is precisely my point! The bigots are ignoring what Jesus said about adultery. That's how you know their claims to be bible compliant are total horseshit.
Bigots have been using the bible has a hypocritical shield for centuries.
Cuz thu bible sayuz!
At the same time, this is not a religious issue. It's a liberty issue. I cannot support government forcing bigots to serve people they hate. I will never give such bigots a dime of my money. But, I will defend their liberty just like I will defend gays.
Oh, I totally agree. No argument here See post #420 (that's a fun number).As I have pointed out many many times, this whole issue is about government gifts. It has nothing to do with religion.
Heterosexuals have been demanding all kinds of government cash and prizes for their marriages, and now they are upset gays are asking for the same cash and prizes.
Nothing to do with religion.
You're not wrong.I am also against government forcing a business to comply with simple human decency. However, by their intransigence during the civil rights era, the bigots screwed the pooch, and now here we are.
Is that what Jesus said? Divorce is only okay if you're straight?It is still a man and a woman. It's not like it was a wedding between two perverts.God said plenty about gays... He burned them to the ground.The bible has a lot more to say about adulterers than homosexuals. Jesus specifically addressed adultery, and never said a word about gays.The Bible says fudge packers should be culled from society.Consider who wrote it. These were ancient tribal laws from way back thousands of years ago. Read the rest of Leviticus. Read the rest of the Old Testament. There are lots of "sins" in there that specify the death penalty. Look 'em up. I guess cherry-picking is a hobby of yours.
I fail to see the problem?? ...
And yet I don't see any bakers refusing to bake a cake for people getting married for the second, third, fourth, fifth time even though they are in total violation of the bible.
That's how you know this has NOTHING to do with bible compliancy.
It is the same tired bullshit of bigots using the bible as an excuse for their inexcusable bigotry. There is a special place in the hell they claim to believe in for those kind of hypocrites.
Jesus had a great deal to say about hypocrites, too. Probably more than any other category of people.
The Bible is gibberish is not taken as a whole…
Jesus never said a word. He spoke very strongly against divorce. Have you ever seen a baker or a florist refuse to do a wedding because one of the couples was divorced? Me neither.
Jesus, chapter 3, verse 10 says: "No buttfucking."Is that what Jesus said? Divorce is only okay if you're straight?
Never have...lots of straight people do though...Jesus, chapter 3, verse 10 says: "No buttfucking."Is that what Jesus said? Divorce is only okay if you're straight?
Thus, it is a sin.
No one has forced the baker to be a baker or bake wedding cakes. He chose to do that, in a state with PA laws and then he chose to discriminate against customers based on their lifestyle.Involuntary Servitude Law and Legal Definition | USLegal, Inc.
"Involuntary servitude refers to being forced through coercion to work for another."
How can government forcing a business owner to serve people against his will be anything other than involuntary servitude?
If I think being a christian violates my deepest religious beliefs should I be forced to do business with christians?
What individual rights can we fuck over with the standard (lack of standard, actually) that we are allowed to be bigoted asswipes to one another? A decision on this can open the gates to putting that sign back in the window that "We refuse to serve ...." and I don't think that is what America is about. We are supposed to be about individual freedom to be EQUAL and treated FAIRLY, no matter who we are or what we look like.
