If so, how?
I'd start going to church, and forcing the kid to come too.
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If so, how?
And you'd stop burning crosses?If so, how?
I'd start going to church, and forcing the kid to come too.
And you'd stop burning crosses?If so, how?
I'd start going to church, and forcing the kid to come too.
Sure, but what about all the other stuff in the 5 chapters that Moses wrote? How did god tell him what to write?Didn't god communicate with Moses to tell him what to write? What did He do? Send Moses a letter?I said, and I repeat, how else is MAN to communicate what God said?But god didn't write it down, Moses did.Now that we've settled that I was correct, how else is man to communicate what God said, if not to write it down?
How is it supposed to be communicated from then to now?
God wrote the original commandments, do you pay attention to them?
He wrote on the stone tablets that Moses brought down with him. You know that.
If a burning bush talked to me I'd call a neurologist pronto to make sure I didn't have a brain tumorIf so, how?
So what my whole point was, is that if god spoke to Moses, why doesn't god simply speak to me, and everyone else? Why go through a book that makes no logical sense and has to be studied for secret hidden meanings...? Sounds kinda like a John Smith con job, doesn't it?Sure, but what about all the other stuff in the 5 chapters that Moses wrote? How did god tell him what to write?Didn't god communicate with Moses to tell him what to write? What did He do? Send Moses a letter?I said, and I repeat, how else is MAN to communicate what God said?But god didn't write it down, Moses did.
How is it supposed to be communicated from then to now?
God wrote the original commandments, do you pay attention to them?
He wrote on the stone tablets that Moses brought down with him. You know that.
Okay, new subject then. I wasn't privy to their conversation, but they spoke.
I think that's called your conscience. Or else, like, what kind of things does he say to you? And how?So once you’re a believer, god starts to talk to you?Moses was a believer, you aren't.He said that god had to communicate with man somehow, thus through the bible. But hadn't god already told Moses what to write in the bible? So why doesn't god just communicate with me like it did with Moses? Why the douche book? If you have no answer, I'll certainly understand.You're a troll.
Yeah, he does.
So what my whole point was, is that if god spoke to Moses, why doesn't god simply speak to me, and everyone else? Why go through a book that makes no logical sense and has to be studied for secret hidden meanings...? Sounds kinda like a John Smith con job, doesn't it?Sure, but what about all the other stuff in the 5 chapters that Moses wrote? How did god tell him what to write?Didn't god communicate with Moses to tell him what to write? What did He do? Send Moses a letter?I said, and I repeat, how else is MAN to communicate what God said?
How is it supposed to be communicated from then to now?
God wrote the original commandments, do you pay attention to them?
He wrote on the stone tablets that Moses brought down with him. You know that.
Okay, new subject then. I wasn't privy to their conversation, but they spoke.
So your conscience, or self. Got it.I think that's called your conscience. Or else, like, what kind of things does he say to you? And how?So once you’re a believer, god starts to talk to you?Moses was a believer, you aren't.He said that god had to communicate with man somehow, thus through the bible. But hadn't god already told Moses what to write in the bible? So why doesn't god just communicate with me like it did with Moses? Why the douche book? If you have no answer, I'll certainly understand.
Yeah, he does.
Let me head you off here. I don't hear voices in my head.
The kinds of things God communicates are reassurance that He is in control during difficult times, which of our brothers and sisters needs our help, what kind of support to offer our friends who are suffering, what mission field needs us, who needs healing, what needs to be taught, you know, the normal stuff.
Why wouldn't god speak to someone who is on the fence, like me? Makes total sense, I'm ready to believe but need some solid proof before that happens. God could do it to ALL unbelievers if it wanted to, being the creator of everything, and all that... And then EVERYONE would believe. Why would god make everyone go through an illogical book. THAT is TOTALLY illogical.So what my whole point was, is that if god spoke to Moses, why doesn't god simply speak to me, and everyone else? Why go through a book that makes no logical sense and has to be studied for secret hidden meanings...? Sounds kinda like a John Smith con job, doesn't it?Sure, but what about all the other stuff in the 5 chapters that Moses wrote? How did god tell him what to write?Didn't god communicate with Moses to tell him what to write? What did He do? Send Moses a letter?
He wrote on the stone tablets that Moses brought down with him. You know that.
Okay, new subject then. I wasn't privy to their conversation, but they spoke.
Moses was specifically appointed to do a specific task, bring the Israelites out of Egypt. God DOES communicate with His followers, but why would He speak to someone who denies His very existence?
So your conscience, or self. Got it.I think that's called your conscience. Or else, like, what kind of things does he say to you? And how?So once you’re a believer, god starts to talk to you?Moses was a believer, you aren't.
Yeah, he does.
Let me head you off here. I don't hear voices in my head.
The kinds of things God communicates are reassurance that He is in control during difficult times, which of our brothers and sisters needs our help, what kind of support to offer our friends who are suffering, what mission field needs us, who needs healing, what needs to be taught, you know, the normal stuff.
Why wouldn't god speak to someone who is on the fence, like me? Makes total sense, I'm ready to believe but need some solid proof before that happens. God could do it to ALL unbelievers if it wanted to, being the creator of everything, and all that... And then EVERYONE would believe. Why would god make everyone go through an illogical book. THAT is TOTALLY illogical.So what my whole point was, is that if god spoke to Moses, why doesn't god simply speak to me, and everyone else? Why go through a book that makes no logical sense and has to be studied for secret hidden meanings...? Sounds kinda like a John Smith con job, doesn't it?Sure, but what about all the other stuff in the 5 chapters that Moses wrote? How did god tell him what to write?He wrote on the stone tablets that Moses brought down with him. You know that.
Okay, new subject then. I wasn't privy to their conversation, but they spoke.
Moses was specifically appointed to do a specific task, bring the Israelites out of Egypt. God DOES communicate with His followers, but why would He speak to someone who denies His very existence?
God is telling you were to go to help people, you mean, like, after he didn't help the people himself by stopping whatever disaster hit them? He won't help them afterwards either, but wants you to? Man, that's weak, very weak, for an all-powerful being.So your conscience, or self. Got it.I think that's called your conscience. Or else, like, what kind of things does he say to you? And how?So once you’re a believer, god starts to talk to you?
Yeah, he does.
Let me head you off here. I don't hear voices in my head.
The kinds of things God communicates are reassurance that He is in control during difficult times, which of our brothers and sisters needs our help, what kind of support to offer our friends who are suffering, what mission field needs us, who needs healing, what needs to be taught, you know, the normal stuff.
Conscience is different. You're projecting, not reading what I write.
I would accept proof that everyone could verify, even unbelievers. If it happened to me alone, nope, the mind can play tricks on you, especially if you're wanting to believe in the first place.Why wouldn't god speak to someone who is on the fence, like me? Makes total sense, I'm ready to believe but need some solid proof before that happens. God could do it to ALL unbelievers if it wanted to, being the creator of everything, and all that... And then EVERYONE would believe. Why would god make everyone go through an illogical book. THAT is TOTALLY illogical.So what my whole point was, is that if god spoke to Moses, why doesn't god simply speak to me, and everyone else? Why go through a book that makes no logical sense and has to be studied for secret hidden meanings...? Sounds kinda like a John Smith con job, doesn't it?Sure, but what about all the other stuff in the 5 chapters that Moses wrote? How did god tell him what to write?
Okay, new subject then. I wasn't privy to their conversation, but they spoke.
Moses was specifically appointed to do a specific task, bring the Israelites out of Egypt. God DOES communicate with His followers, but why would He speak to someone who denies His very existence?
Would you accept evidence that only you could verify, that would make a non believer mock you because he wasn't there?
God is telling you were to go to help people, you mean, like, after he didn't help the people himself by stopping whatever disaster hit them? He won't help them afterwards either, but wants you to? Man, that's weak, very weak, for an all-powerful being.So your conscience, or self. Got it.I think that's called your conscience. Or else, like, what kind of things does he say to you? And how?Yeah, he does.
Let me head you off here. I don't hear voices in my head.
The kinds of things God communicates are reassurance that He is in control during difficult times, which of our brothers and sisters needs our help, what kind of support to offer our friends who are suffering, what mission field needs us, who needs healing, what needs to be taught, you know, the normal stuff.
Conscience is different. You're projecting, not reading what I write.
I would accept proof that everyone could verify, even unbelievers. If it happened to me alone, nope, the mind can play tricks on you, especially if you're wanting to believe in the first place.Why wouldn't god speak to someone who is on the fence, like me? Makes total sense, I'm ready to believe but need some solid proof before that happens. God could do it to ALL unbelievers if it wanted to, being the creator of everything, and all that... And then EVERYONE would believe. Why would god make everyone go through an illogical book. THAT is TOTALLY illogical.So what my whole point was, is that if god spoke to Moses, why doesn't god simply speak to me, and everyone else? Why go through a book that makes no logical sense and has to be studied for secret hidden meanings...? Sounds kinda like a John Smith con job, doesn't it?Okay, new subject then. I wasn't privy to their conversation, but they spoke.
Moses was specifically appointed to do a specific task, bring the Israelites out of Egypt. God DOES communicate with His followers, but why would He speak to someone who denies His very existence?
Would you accept evidence that only you could verify, that would make a non believer mock you because he wasn't there?
Wrong. Not everyone woud. Whatever gave you that idea. I asked a similar question once. A lot of people said no. Besides, God has already revealed Himself, yet many still reject him.Of course, everyone would. Hopefully he'd provide single moral compass and set of rules to live by that I could follow. Things currently lacking in the OT & NT.If so, how?
By 'revealed' I mean unquestionably. Prior belief is not required, everyone everywhere would share the same experience.Wrong. Not everyone woud. Whatever gave you that idea. I asked a similar question once. A lot of people said no. Besides, God has already revealed Himself, yet many still reject him.Of course, everyone would. Hopefully he'd provide single moral compass and set of rules to live by that I could follow. Things currently lacking in the OT & NT.If so, how?