The Great Goose
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yeah i knowYou know he's right.what a dumb op.
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yeah i knowYou know he's right.what a dumb op.
Mutt kind of missed the FACT that China IS big government.I guess all the liberals are able to do now is make up imaginary "crises", and then say silly things that are supposed to "save" us. All centered around big government, high taxes, and liberal control of more and more of our lives.One common thing that keeps coming up is that people that have lots of money will have a lot more freedom and say within this society. You as a back water hick better just stay in those woods because this will be a fiefdom! haha
See?
You know he's right.what a dumb op.
You realize of course that corporate corruption of our government is a two way street right? Of course we should put blame on repubs. Democrats too.You know he's right.what a dumb op.
About what? You clowns have no clue of what you are speaking. Especially YOU. No one on the right wants government to be abolished. What they do want is for it to be reigned in and placed under the control of the PEOPLE. Not elitist corporate pricks who corrupt the political process and then blame repubs for that which they are doing.
If you're going to demand the abolishment of government, you better be ready to accept the downside of doing so.
What are the downsides?
1. Our Leadership in science and r&D, think about the reality that 40% of all r&d funding and now think gone. Think about entire institutions of science that put this nation on the map for being advance and forward thinking being abolished! For what? Because some red neck thinks it is against god of course and wishes to live on a homestead out in the countryside! Trillions of dollars of economic wealth and technological superiority = gone. How is that helping America? I say it would hurt America very badly! Hell, the effects of such will make the hick much poorer and take away most of his upwards mobility.
2. The poor will have to do as they did 100 years ago before public education guaranteed them 12 years of education. Pretty much, either you have the cash or you don't. If you don't, well, you don't get it.
3. Accept that our food standards, air quality and water quality will be in the hands of the private sector. Look at China, India, or Africa to understand that other humans never give a damn such things. Be ready to drink shitty water, eat poisoness food and get lung cancer from dirty air,. No the consumer doesn't have much say in a unregulated market place and never has. Let alone the worker(read about some history!)..Government is our voice.
4. Oh'how about that twister, hurricane, or that flash flood? Oh'shittty, too bad I guess you're going to have to pay many thousands per month to enjoy a inferior product from the private sector. Remember the government maintains the radars, satellites, observations, computer models and the meteorologist to warn you of such things. The current private sector that is out their simply rips off the government while using the satellites, computer models and observations...In reality, you better be rich if you're going to be anti-government! hahaha
5. How about my wonderful highway I love to drive my red pickup truck on? Well, since you're anti-government and most highways, freeways and roads in this country are 50% funded by the federal government and most of the rest founded by gas taxes and/or local governments...Well, you're pretty much fucked as a poor person! As a anti-government liberterian you better be ready to pay tolls or maybe just maybe the private sector will grant you a lenience. Oh'yessss, only people that have MONEY will be able to drive on the roads!!!! Consider this for a second,,,it cost a million bucks to pave 1 mile of road. Do you really believe that most poor people will be able to pay such to be able to hit the road? hahaha. Can you imagine the economic damage that will be caused when the little guy can't drive to his small business because he isn't making enough profit to pay for this lienence? Heck, consider the reality that most poor people won't be able to get to this small shop outside of walking distance if they don't have this kind of cash. And yes it will cost up the ass as their will quickly be a monopoly that can set the price. damn. So 10st of millions of people won't be able to drive. Can you imagine the damage to our economy? We'd likely become a third world country for this alone.
6. workers rights? Safety regs and wages...Well, think about the abusive labor standards in vietnam or of even the Uk in the 17th and 18th century. There's a reason we have them. Imagine now safety regs,,,but hell, I guess if you're going to work for the guy taking all the profit you better be ready to take the risk and live in shitty conditions. No government official will be there for you! And did I say wages? Trump did say wages are too HIGH! If we want to compete with Vietnam the poor bastards better be ready to work like em.
I could go on and on, but the 21st century dream of the economic libertarian is truly shocking and ugly. We certainly wouldn't be a top 50 nation for quality of life or much else for that matter.
I've hear people say less regulation and smaller government, but I've never hear anyone say abolish government.
If you're going to demand the abolishment of government, you better be ready to accept the downside of doing so.
What are the downsides?
1. Our Leadership in science and r&D, think about the reality that 40% of all r&d funding and now think gone. Think about entire institutions of science that put this nation on the map for being advance and forward thinking being abolished! For what? Because some red neck thinks it is against god of course and wishes to live on a homestead out in the countryside! Trillions of dollars of economic wealth and technological superiority = gone. How is that helping America? I say it would hurt America very badly! Hell, the effects of such will make the hick much poorer and take away most of his upwards mobility.
2. The poor will have to do as they did 100 years ago before public education guaranteed them 12 years of education. Pretty much, either you have the cash or you don't. If you don't, well, you don't get it.
3. Accept that our food standards, air quality and water quality will be in the hands of the private sector. Look at China, India, or Africa to understand that other humans never give a damn such things. Be ready to drink shitty water, eat poisoness food and get lung cancer from dirty air,. No the consumer doesn't have much say in a unregulated market place and never has. Let alone the worker(read about some history!)..Government is our voice.
4. Oh'how about that twister, hurricane, or that flash flood? Oh'shittty, too bad I guess you're going to have to pay many thousands per month to enjoy a inferior product from the private sector. Remember the government maintains the radars, satellites, observations, computer models and the meteorologist to warn you of such things. The current private sector that is out their simply rips off the government while using the satellites, computer models and observations...In reality, you better be rich if you're going to be anti-government! hahaha
5. How about my wonderful highway I love to drive my red pickup truck on? Well, since you're anti-government and most highways, freeways and roads in this country are 50% funded by the federal government and most of the rest founded by gas taxes and/or local governments...Well, you're pretty much fucked as a poor person! As a anti-government liberterian you better be ready to pay tolls or maybe just maybe the private sector will grant you a lenience. Oh'yessss, only people that have MONEY will be able to drive on the roads!!!! Consider this for a second,,,it cost a million bucks to pave 1 mile of road. Do you really believe that most poor people will be able to pay such to be able to hit the road? hahaha. Can you imagine the economic damage that will be caused when the little guy can't drive to his small business because he isn't making enough profit to pay for this lienence? Heck, consider the reality that most poor people won't be able to get to this small shop outside of walking distance if they don't have this kind of cash. And yes it will cost up the ass as their will quickly be a monopoly that can set the price. damn. So 10st of millions of people won't be able to drive. Can you imagine the damage to our economy? We'd likely become a third world country for this alone.
6. workers rights? Safety regs and wages...Well, think about the abusive labor standards in vietnam or of even the Uk in the 17th and 18th century. There's a reason we have them. Imagine now safety regs,,,but hell, I guess if you're going to work for the guy taking all the profit you better be ready to take the risk and live in shitty conditions. No government official will be there for you! And did I say wages? Trump did say wages are too HIGH! If we want to compete with Vietnam the poor bastards better be ready to work like em.
I could go on and on, but the 21st century dream of the economic libertarian is truly shocking and ugly. We certainly wouldn't be a top 50 nation for quality of life or much else for that matter.
You know he's right.what a dumb op.
If you're going to demand the abolishment of government, you better be ready to accept the downside of doing so.
What are the downsides?
1. Our Leadership in science and r&D, think about the reality that 40% of all r&d funding and now think gone. Think about entire institutions of science that put this nation on the map for being advance and forward thinking being abolished! For what? Because some red neck thinks it is against god of course and wishes to live on a homestead out in the countryside! Trillions of dollars of economic wealth and technological superiority = gone. How is that helping America? I say it would hurt America very badly! Hell, the effects of such will make the hick much poorer and take away most of his upwards mobility.
2. The poor will have to do as they did 100 years ago before public education guaranteed them 12 years of education. Pretty much, either you have the cash or you don't. If you don't, well, you don't get it.
3. Accept that our food standards, air quality and water quality will be in the hands of the private sector. Look at China, India, or Africa to understand that other humans never give a damn such things. Be ready to drink shitty water, eat poisoness food and get lung cancer from dirty air,. No the consumer doesn't have much say in a unregulated market place and never has. Let alone the worker(read about some history!)..Government is our voice.
4. Oh'how about that twister, hurricane, or that flash flood? Oh'shittty, too bad I guess you're going to have to pay many thousands per month to enjoy a inferior product from the private sector. Remember the government maintains the radars, satellites, observations, computer models and the meteorologist to warn you of such things. The current private sector that is out their simply rips off the government while using the satellites, computer models and observations...In reality, you better be rich if you're going to be anti-government! hahaha
5. How about my wonderful highway I love to drive my red pickup truck on? Well, since you're anti-government and most highways, freeways and roads in this country are 50% funded by the federal government and most of the rest founded by gas taxes and/or local governments...Well, you're pretty much fucked as a poor person! As a anti-government liberterian you better be ready to pay tolls or maybe just maybe the private sector will grant you a lenience. Oh'yessss, only people that have MONEY will be able to drive on the roads!!!! Consider this for a second,,,it cost a million bucks to pave 1 mile of road. Do you really believe that most poor people will be able to pay such to be able to hit the road? hahaha. Can you imagine the economic damage that will be caused when the little guy can't drive to his small business because he isn't making enough profit to pay for this lienence? Heck, consider the reality that most poor people won't be able to get to this small shop outside of walking distance if they don't have this kind of cash. And yes it will cost up the ass as their will quickly be a monopoly that can set the price. damn. So 10st of millions of people won't be able to drive. Can you imagine the damage to our economy? We'd likely become a third world country for this alone.
6. workers rights? Safety regs and wages...Well, think about the abusive labor standards in vietnam or of even the Uk in the 17th and 18th century. There's a reason we have them. Imagine now safety regs,,,but hell, I guess if you're going to work for the guy taking all the profit you better be ready to take the risk and live in shitty conditions. No government official will be there for you! And did I say wages? Trump did say wages are too HIGH! If we want to compete with Vietnam the poor bastards better be ready to work like em.
I could go on and on, but the 21st century dream of the economic libertarian is truly shocking and ugly. We certainly wouldn't be a top 50 nation for quality of life or much else for that matter.
I'm seeing a lot of threads from Liberals since Trump's acceptance speech that are just absolute lies. Did he rattle the Left that much?