In light of the attacks in Paris...shall we discuss gun control?

[2aguy]

As an Army vet, I understand the pitfalls of a very small group attempting to control a very large group. Once the small group loses that control, as in by hyper focus on a counterattacking force...it allows for members of the large group to engage in mass escape or join the counterattack with improvised weapons of opportunity.

As Helmuth von Moltke said...No plan survives hostile contact with the enemy.

Extrapolated, where there is no hostile contact, the plan survives.

Therefore, hostile contact is required to derail the enemies plan.

No doubt in an attack like that, bedlam ensues

You are not a trained special forces vet, you are an overweight gun nut. Lights are down, people are screaming, terrorists are firing and so are your fellow, overweight gun nuts. Who do you shoot at? Who is returning fire on you?

actual mass shootings with concealed carriers on the scene show you are wrong....completely wrong...you have no idea what you are talking about...you feel about the situation...you don't know about the situation..do actual research into mass shootings and learn something about them....

Watch "Terror in the Mall" and tell me that someone with a pistol couldn't have saved lives against those gunmen......

We are not talking trained concealed carriers. We are talking redneck gun nuts with Rambo fantasies
We are talking about 300 million guns in the hands of a mostly untrained populace

Theses are the people you are expecting to "keep us safe"

So far, they have done a shitty job of it

1.5 million people use guns to stop violent criminal attack every year according to bill clinton and his Department of Justice study on guns used for self defense....they are not navy seals or Green Berets or SWAT......

Do some research sometime....actually learn about the issue instead of just making up crap in your head...

More gun nut fantasies of.......good thing I had my trusty shooting iron...I really showed that guy

These people had their "trusty shooting irons" and actually saved lives...


Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)

vs.

Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)
**********
No guns: 15 dead

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)


Parishioners with guns: 2 dead

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)


Temple massacre has some Sikhs mulling gun ownership

The president of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin had only a butter knife on hand, which he used to fight the gunman. He was killed, but his heroic actions were credited for slowing the shooter. Guns were not allowed in the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin.

“No guns [were] allowed in the temple,” Kulbir Singh, an attendee of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, told FoxNews.com.“Everyone knows that it’s not allowed, anywhere in the temple.”

 

[Brain357]

You're whack dude. None of the school shooters have a long history of violence or even criminality. The guy who shoots at kids at a gas station over loud music or the retired police chief who shoots a man dead in a movie theater for throwing popcorn weren't career criminals. This stuff happens all of the time.

And here is more research....mass shooting victims vs. total gun murders....

total gun murders in 2014 from the FBI table 8.... 8,124

Total victims of mass shootings 2014.... 9

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Sooooo....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation



How many deaths on average according to Mother Jones...anti gun, uber left wing Mother Jones.......each year, well less than 100.

2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf



Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Accidental gun deaths 2013......505


Those are the numbers of deaths from mass shootings in the United States.....and even in the big year, 2012, they didn't break 100 deaths by criminals.

How many guns are there in American hands....320 million.

How many people carry guns for self defense...over 13 million.

Accidental gun deaths.....505
On purpose gun deaths.......31,500

And you lie....

gun murder in 2014.... 8,124 by people with long histories of violence and criminal records

13 million normal people carrying guns and only 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013....

The rest are suicides.....and of course you didn't post the 19,000 people in the United STates who committed suicide without guns...or the Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans with no access to gun who commit suicide at 2x our rate...

8,124 gun murders

1.5 million violent attacks stopped by normal Americans with guns.....

13 million people carrying guns...

505 accidental gun deaths....

Those numbers show you are a fool.

I fail to see the purpose of you bragging about 505 accidental gun deaths when it only highlights the 30,000 where someone intentionally pulled the trigger

Of course you wouldn't...because you are a fool...

In a country of over 320 million people...with over 320 million guns in private hands and over 13 million people carrying guns...

There are only 505 accidental gun deaths.....505.....out of 320 million people...


19,000 people in the United States commit suicide without guns...which means the other 21,000 people who used guns would change methods...to what the other 19,000 people used...guns are not the issue....

gun murder in 2014.... 8,124

violent attacks stopped.... 1.5 million

Use your toes if you have to to understand the numbers.

Which is also like 505 more than any other civilized country. Oh and 505 is a lot more deaths than those terrorists caused. Should france arm up so they have more accidental deaths than terrorist deaths?

 

[bucs90]

Another question for liberal turds. They want kinder softer non militarized...or even unarmed...cops.

Yesterday in Paris...8 hardened ISIS Warriors with AK47S and grenades and bombs killed 130 and wounded near 300 more.

Libs...how do you train your kinder softer unarmed cops for these sudden assaults?

 

[Brain357]

No doubt in an attack like that, bedlam ensues

You are not a trained special forces vet, you are an overweight gun nut. Lights are down, people are screaming, terrorists are firing and so are your fellow, overweight gun nuts. Who do you shoot at? Who is returning fire on you?

actual mass shootings with concealed carriers on the scene show you are wrong....completely wrong...you have no idea what you are talking about...you feel about the situation...you don't know about the situation..do actual research into mass shootings and learn something about them....

Watch "Terror in the Mall" and tell me that someone with a pistol couldn't have saved lives against those gunmen......

We are not talking trained concealed carriers. We are talking redneck gun nuts with Rambo fantasies
We are talking about 300 million guns in the hands of a mostly untrained populace

Theses are the people you are expecting to "keep us safe"

So far, they have done a shitty job of it

1.5 million people use guns to stop violent criminal attack every year according to bill clinton and his Department of Justice study on guns used for self defense....they are not navy seals or Green Berets or SWAT......

Do some research sometime....actually learn about the issue instead of just making up crap in your head...

More gun nut fantasies of.......good thing I had my trusty shooting iron...I really showed that guy

These people had their "trusty shooting irons" and actually saved lives...


Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)

vs.

Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)
**********
No guns: 15 dead

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)


Parishioners with guns: 2 dead

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)


Temple massacre has some Sikhs mulling gun ownership

The president of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin had only a butter knife on hand, which he used to fight the gunman. He was killed, but his heroic actions were credited for slowing the shooter. Guns were not allowed in the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin.

“No guns [were] allowed in the temple,” Kulbir Singh, an attendee of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, told FoxNews.com.“Everyone knows that it’s not allowed, anywhere in the temple.”

Haven't you posted that several times already? Stop repeating yourself gunbot.

 

[2aguy]

At least I'd have a chance, however small.

And I'm a Army Veteran with hundreds of hours of training myself.

Simple question. If you were a hostage to madmen, would you prefer to be armed and have at least a chance, or unarmed with no chance.

If they know people are armed they will just do suicide bombings or run planes into buildings. Guns aren't going to make a difference on this front.

You are still a twit brain.......if people were armed they could have saved lives of the people singled out for murder....

Why is it you guys constantly want people helpless in the face of killers.....with absolutely no chance to stop the murder....what is wrong with your brains.......?

Sorry twit, gun won't help you from suicide bombers.

Look twit...the attackers set off their vests when what exactly happened.....when armed police arrived and started shooting at them....moron.....so before the police arrived they sat there and threw grenades and executed people one by one as they found them...

So for a simple minded person like you.....if there were armed people in the crowds who could shoot back...the monsters would have been forced to set off their bombs long before they executed all those other people...and those bombs are less deadly than allowing them unlimited access and all the time in the world to murder a people......

And again...why do you want helpless people...you are brain dead.

So they just blow themselves up right away and anyone carrying is just as dead as everyone else. Guns can't defend against suicide bombers.

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

 

[2aguy]

actual mass shootings with concealed carriers on the scene show you are wrong....completely wrong...you have no idea what you are talking about...you feel about the situation...you don't know about the situation..do actual research into mass shootings and learn something about them....

Watch "Terror in the Mall" and tell me that someone with a pistol couldn't have saved lives against those gunmen......

We are not talking trained concealed carriers. We are talking redneck gun nuts with Rambo fantasies
We are talking about 300 million guns in the hands of a mostly untrained populace

Theses are the people you are expecting to "keep us safe"

So far, they have done a shitty job of it

1.5 million people use guns to stop violent criminal attack every year according to bill clinton and his Department of Justice study on guns used for self defense....they are not navy seals or Green Berets or SWAT......

Do some research sometime....actually learn about the issue instead of just making up crap in your head...

More gun nut fantasies of.......good thing I had my trusty shooting iron...I really showed that guy

These people had their "trusty shooting irons" and actually saved lives...


Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston church shooting - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia ( 9 dead)

vs.

Deputies Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense ( 0 dead)

6 Shot At New Life Church Gunman 2 Churchgoers Dead - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

Remember This SC Concealed Carrier Stops Mass Shooting During Church Service. No Casualties. ( 0 dead)
**********
No guns: 15 dead

Sikh temple ( 6 dead, 4 wounded)

Charleston ( 9 dead)


Parishioners with guns: 2 dead

Osceola ( 0 dead )

New life ( 2 dead, 3 wounded)

South Carolina shotgun guy ( 0 dead)


Temple massacre has some Sikhs mulling gun ownership

The president of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin had only a butter knife on hand, which he used to fight the gunman. He was killed, but his heroic actions were credited for slowing the shooter. Guns were not allowed in the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin.

“No guns [were] allowed in the temple,” Kulbir Singh, an attendee of the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin, told FoxNews.com.“Everyone knows that it’s not allowed, anywhere in the temple.”

Haven't you posted that several times already? Stop repeating yourself gunbot.

it is the truth.....and shows you are wrong.

 

[Brain357]

If they know people are armed they will just do suicide bombings or run planes into buildings. Guns aren't going to make a difference on this front.

You are still a twit brain.......if people were armed they could have saved lives of the people singled out for murder....

Why is it you guys constantly want people helpless in the face of killers.....with absolutely no chance to stop the murder....what is wrong with your brains.......?

Sorry twit, gun won't help you from suicide bombers.

Look twit...the attackers set off their vests when what exactly happened.....when armed police arrived and started shooting at them....moron.....so before the police arrived they sat there and threw grenades and executed people one by one as they found them...

So for a simple minded person like you.....if there were armed people in the crowds who could shoot back...the monsters would have been forced to set off their bombs long before they executed all those other people...and those bombs are less deadly than allowing them unlimited access and all the time in the world to murder a people......

And again...why do you want helpless people...you are brain dead.

So they just blow themselves up right away and anyone carrying is just as dead as everyone else. Guns can't defend against suicide bombers.

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

 

[2aguy]

And here is more research....mass shooting victims vs. total gun murders....

total gun murders in 2014 from the FBI table 8.... 8,124

Total victims of mass shootings 2014.... 9

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

Sooooo....


US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation



How many deaths on average according to Mother Jones...anti gun, uber left wing Mother Jones.......each year, well less than 100.

2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf



Cars, Accidental deaths 2013......35,369

Poisons...accidental deaths 2013....38,851

Alcohol...accidental deaths 2013...29,001

gravity....accidental falling deaths 2013...30,208
Accidental drowning.....3,391
Accidental exposure to smoke, fire and flames.....2,760

Accidental gun deaths 2013......505


Those are the numbers of deaths from mass shootings in the United States.....and even in the big year, 2012, they didn't break 100 deaths by criminals.

How many guns are there in American hands....320 million.

How many people carry guns for self defense...over 13 million.

Accidental gun deaths.....505
On purpose gun deaths.......31,500

And you lie....

gun murder in 2014.... 8,124 by people with long histories of violence and criminal records

13 million normal people carrying guns and only 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013....

The rest are suicides.....and of course you didn't post the 19,000 people in the United STates who committed suicide without guns...or the Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans with no access to gun who commit suicide at 2x our rate...

8,124 gun murders

1.5 million violent attacks stopped by normal Americans with guns.....

13 million people carrying guns...

505 accidental gun deaths....

Those numbers show you are a fool.

I fail to see the purpose of you bragging about 505 accidental gun deaths when it only highlights the 30,000 where someone intentionally pulled the trigger

Of course you wouldn't...because you are a fool...

In a country of over 320 million people...with over 320 million guns in private hands and over 13 million people carrying guns...

There are only 505 accidental gun deaths.....505.....out of 320 million people...


19,000 people in the United States commit suicide without guns...which means the other 21,000 people who used guns would change methods...to what the other 19,000 people used...guns are not the issue....

gun murder in 2014.... 8,124

violent attacks stopped.... 1.5 million

Use your toes if you have to to understand the numbers.

Which is also like 505 more than any other civilized country. Oh and 505 is a lot more deaths than those terrorists caused. Should france arm up so they have more accidental deaths than terrorist deaths?

In the scale of over 320 million guns in private hands...and over 13 million people carrying guns for self defense...

505 accidental gun deaths is amazing.....it shows how incredibly responsible American gun owners actually are...car makers could only dream of that number.

 

[2aguy]

You are still a twit brain.......if people were armed they could have saved lives of the people singled out for murder....

Why is it you guys constantly want people helpless in the face of killers.....with absolutely no chance to stop the murder....what is wrong with your brains.......?

Sorry twit, gun won't help you from suicide bombers.

Look twit...the attackers set off their vests when what exactly happened.....when armed police arrived and started shooting at them....moron.....so before the police arrived they sat there and threw grenades and executed people one by one as they found them...

So for a simple minded person like you.....if there were armed people in the crowds who could shoot back...the monsters would have been forced to set off their bombs long before they executed all those other people...and those bombs are less deadly than allowing them unlimited access and all the time in the world to murder a people......

And again...why do you want helpless people...you are brain dead.

So they just blow themselves up right away and anyone carrying is just as dead as everyone else. Guns can't defend against suicide bombers.

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

No...if they know there are armed people they will go somewhere that they know is gun free...they want to kill, not get into a gun fight...notice they didn't attack a police station or military base...right? you twit.

 

[Brain357]

Accidental gun deaths.....505
On purpose gun deaths.......31,500

And you lie....

gun murder in 2014.... 8,124 by people with long histories of violence and criminal records

13 million normal people carrying guns and only 505 accidental gun deaths in 2013....

The rest are suicides.....and of course you didn't post the 19,000 people in the United STates who committed suicide without guns...or the Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans with no access to gun who commit suicide at 2x our rate...

8,124 gun murders

1.5 million violent attacks stopped by normal Americans with guns.....

13 million people carrying guns...

505 accidental gun deaths....

Those numbers show you are a fool.

I fail to see the purpose of you bragging about 505 accidental gun deaths when it only highlights the 30,000 where someone intentionally pulled the trigger

Of course you wouldn't...because you are a fool...

In a country of over 320 million people...with over 320 million guns in private hands and over 13 million people carrying guns...

There are only 505 accidental gun deaths.....505.....out of 320 million people...


19,000 people in the United States commit suicide without guns...which means the other 21,000 people who used guns would change methods...to what the other 19,000 people used...guns are not the issue....

gun murder in 2014.... 8,124

violent attacks stopped.... 1.5 million

Use your toes if you have to to understand the numbers.

Which is also like 505 more than any other civilized country. Oh and 505 is a lot more deaths than those terrorists caused. Should france arm up so they have more accidental deaths than terrorist deaths?

In the scale of over 320 million guns in private hands...and over 13 million people carrying guns for self defense...

505 accidental gun deaths is amazing.....it shows how incredibly responsible American gun owners actually are...car makers could only dream of that number.

This france attack is a horrible tragedy. And yet more people are accidently killed each year in the us with guns.

 

[Liminal]

Does anyone think that these attackers only used 10 round magazines.....considering that all magazines are illegal in France....

Does anyone think that there is never a need for a normal citizen to carry a gun for protection and to have the ability to carry a standard capacity pistol magazine...meaning some of the models that carry 15-19 rounds.....and do you think that some of the victims..tonight...wish they had a gun on them at the time of the attack? Or do you think they would still stand by being disarmed if they were alive to contemplate the idea?

You and your Glock couldn't have done anything to stop an attack like this. You live in a fantasy world.

 

[2aguy]

These guys went in knowing they were not coming out.
They had AK-47s, body armor, bombs and were well trained and had a planned attack strategy
Morons like 2aguy fantasize....if only me and my trusty gun were there I would have stopped them

At least I'd have a chance, however small.

And I'm a Army Veteran with hundreds of hours of training myself.

Simple question. If you were a hostage to madmen, would you prefer to be armed and have at least a chance, or unarmed with no chance.

If they know people are armed they will just do suicide bombings or run planes into buildings. Guns aren't going to make a difference on this front.

You are still a twit brain.......if people were armed they could have saved lives of the people singled out for murder....

Why is it you guys constantly want people helpless in the face of killers.....with absolutely no chance to stop the murder....what is wrong with your brains.......?

How many victims were armed on 9/11? Doesn't matter cause it wouldn't have saved anymore. Sorry twit, the answer isn't always gun.

The gun nut wants everyone armed on an airplane

Pilots and flight attendants would be fine by me...oh yeah...some pilots are already armed.....oh.......and they also have air marshals...with guns...twit.

 

[Brain357]

Sorry twit, gun won't help you from suicide bombers.

Look twit...the attackers set off their vests when what exactly happened.....when armed police arrived and started shooting at them....moron.....so before the police arrived they sat there and threw grenades and executed people one by one as they found them...

So for a simple minded person like you.....if there were armed people in the crowds who could shoot back...the monsters would have been forced to set off their bombs long before they executed all those other people...and those bombs are less deadly than allowing them unlimited access and all the time in the world to murder a people......

And again...why do you want helpless people...you are brain dead.

So they just blow themselves up right away and anyone carrying is just as dead as everyone else. Guns can't defend against suicide bombers.

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

No...if they know there are armed people they will go somewhere that they know is gun free...they want to kill, not get into a gun fight...notice they didn't attack a police station or military base...right? you twit.

They are suicidal dumbass. They are looking for large groups to blow up.

 

[2aguy]

Does anyone think that these attackers only used 10 round magazines.....considering that all magazines are illegal in France....

Does anyone think that there is never a need for a normal citizen to carry a gun for protection and to have the ability to carry a standard capacity pistol magazine...meaning some of the models that carry 15-19 rounds.....and do you think that some of the victims..tonight...wish they had a gun on them at the time of the attack? Or do you think they would still stand by being disarmed if they were alive to contemplate the idea?

You and your Glock couldn't have done anything to stop an attack like this. You live in a fantasy world.

1.5 million Americans prove you are wrong...

And maybe you can tell me....why didn't these guys attack a French military base...or a French police station?

 

[2aguy]

Look twit...the attackers set off their vests when what exactly happened.....when armed police arrived and started shooting at them....moron.....so before the police arrived they sat there and threw grenades and executed people one by one as they found them...

So for a simple minded person like you.....if there were armed people in the crowds who could shoot back...the monsters would have been forced to set off their bombs long before they executed all those other people...and those bombs are less deadly than allowing them unlimited access and all the time in the world to murder a people......

And again...why do you want helpless people...you are brain dead.

So they just blow themselves up right away and anyone carrying is just as dead as everyone else. Guns can't defend against suicide bombers.

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

No...if they know there are armed people they will go somewhere that they know is gun free...they want to kill, not get into a gun fight...notice they didn't attack a police station or military base...right? you twit.

They are suicidal dumbass. They are looking for large groups to blow up.

They did not attack the French military or the French special police...they attacked people they knew would have no guns fight back.........

 

[2aguy]

Does anyone think that these attackers only used 10 round magazines.....considering that all magazines are illegal in France....

Does anyone think that there is never a need for a normal citizen to carry a gun for protection and to have the ability to carry a standard capacity pistol magazine...meaning some of the models that carry 15-19 rounds.....and do you think that some of the victims..tonight...wish they had a gun on them at the time of the attack? Or do you think they would still stand by being disarmed if they were alive to contemplate the idea?

You and your Glock couldn't have done anything to stop an attack like this. You live in a fantasy world.

I don't own a glock...

 

[Brain357]

So they just blow themselves up right away and anyone carrying is just as dead as everyone else. Guns can't defend against suicide bombers.

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

No...if they know there are armed people they will go somewhere that they know is gun free...they want to kill, not get into a gun fight...notice they didn't attack a police station or military base...right? you twit.

They are suicidal dumbass. They are looking for large groups to blow up.

They did not attack the French military or the French special police...they attacked people they knew would have no guns fight back.........

Where they going to find a large group of police or military in one big room that doesn't have tight security to get in? Everything you say is impressively stupid gunbot.

 

[2aguy]

When they detonate their bombs can save lives......they sat in that concert hall throwing grenades into the crowd and executing people one by one.....and then when the police arrived with guns they detonated their vests....those vests are not fuel bombs....and if you kill them they often can't detonate them...can they...and even if they have some sort of switch in case they are killed.....you save lives by killing them early rather than letting them murder at will and then detonate the vests...

You guys are really silly.....you want to be helpless, and defenseless and to watch your friends and family die as you do nothing...that is some odd fucking thought processing there....

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

No...if they know there are armed people they will go somewhere that they know is gun free...they want to kill, not get into a gun fight...notice they didn't attack a police station or military base...right? you twit.

They are suicidal dumbass. They are looking for large groups to blow up.

They did not attack the French military or the French special police...they attacked people they knew would have no guns fight back.........

Where they going to find a large group of police or military in one big room that doesn't have tight security? Everything you say is impressively stupid gunbot.

What does "tight security" matter...you seem to think armed people don't matter to these attackers...you keep saying so...so again...why didn't they attack a French Military Base, or the French Special Police.......you know...guys with guns....

Explain that......try to......

They attacked people they knew would be helpless......same thing with mass shooters all over the world...they go to gun free zones to kill, not engage in a shoot out....

 

[Brain357]

So if they know there are armed people they quickly throw grenades and detonate themselves. And the armed are just as dead as everyone else.

No...if they know there are armed people they will go somewhere that they know is gun free...they want to kill, not get into a gun fight...notice they didn't attack a police station or military base...right? you twit.

They are suicidal dumbass. They are looking for large groups to blow up.

They did not attack the French military or the French special police...they attacked people they knew would have no guns fight back.........

Where they going to find a large group of police or military in one big room that doesn't have tight security? Everything you say is impressively stupid gunbot.

What does "tight security" matter...you seem to think armed people don't matter to these attackers...you keep saying so...so again...why didn't they attack a French Military Base, or the French Special Police.......you know...guys with guns....

Explain that......try to......

They attacked people they knew would be helpless......same thing with mass shooters all over the world...they go to gun free zones to kill, not engage in a shoot out....

Tight security means at best they will have to detonate at the door with limited fatalities.

 

[2aguy]

And of course Mark Levin puts it into perfect clarity....

Mark Levin Reacts to Paris Attack: Seal Our Borders, ‘Thank God for the Second Amendment’ - Breitbart

“I want to tell you something else – it is what goes through my mind,” he continued. “I bet it goes through your mind – thank God for the Second Amendment. Thank God for the Second Amendment or we’d be Europe. We would all be disarmed. You know Obama and Hillary, all of the Democrats, most of the Republicans. There would be no NRA. There would be no groups trying to protect us. Thank God for the Founding Fathers, the framers of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Thanks God because you see this going on – these poor people who were slaughtered going to a sporting event or a restaurant or a concert or potentially a shopping mall — slaughtered as they stand there by these animals, by these barbarians – and none of them are armed, none of them.”