Is gay marriage the most important issue in the USA?

[rightwinger]

Afirmative action stopped special treatment of white males and opened the door for women and minorities

so the fix for discrimination is more discrimination? Brilliant.

Worked

All Americans benefitted from affirmative action

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

Yes just look at the Obama administration..

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[Redfish]

what it says is ALL equal. no special treatment for any minority or majority.

Who is getting "special treatment"?

Duh,, have you heard of affirmative action programs? Duh.

Sure have...they were found to be constitutional

you fricken moron. affirmative action is SPECIAL TREATMENT. I don't give a flying fuck if the SC found them constitutional, they provide special treatment to some people over others. They are not in compliance with the constitutional guarantee of EQUAL treatment under the law.

You asked who was getting special treatment, It told you. Now STFU

So now this thread is about affirmative action?

LOL>...

no its about national priorities. It asks a simple question which you lefties seem unable to answer.

 

[rightwinger]

Afirmative action stopped special treatment of white males and opened the door for women and minorities

so the fix for discrimination is more discrimination? Brilliant.

Worked

All Americans benefitted from affirmative action

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

 

[Delta4Embassy]

To me it's one of the least important.

Of FAR greater import is climate change, then US-led wars of aggression, then planetary defense (asteroids and other impacters.)

 

[Redfish]

To me it's one of the least important.

Of FAR greater import is climate change, then US-led wars of aggression, then planetary defense (asteroids and other impacters.)

climate change and the attack of the asteroids----------------Wow, what an idiot.

how about the radical islamic wars of agression? no problem?
how about 18 trillion in debt?

 

[Syriusly]

Who is getting "special treatment"?

Duh,, have you heard of affirmative action programs? Duh.

Sure have...they were found to be constitutional

you fricken moron. affirmative action is SPECIAL TREATMENT. I don't give a flying fuck if the SC found them constitutional, they provide special treatment to some people over others. They are not in compliance with the constitutional guarantee of EQUAL treatment under the law.

You asked who was getting special treatment, It told you. Now STFU

So now this thread is about affirmative action?

LOL>...

no its about national priorities. It asks a simple question which you lefties seem unable to answer.

No, its about you being unable to stay on topic in your own thread- you know- your very own - its not 'Gay' thread...

 

[Redfish]

so the fix for discrimination is more discrimination? Brilliant.

Worked

All Americans benefitted from affirmative action

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

are you totally fricken crazy? affirmative action did not create female CEOs. Those women did it on their own by hard work and intelligence.

and you know nothing about GS pay scales if you think they justify women making less in the obozo white house.

 

[Edgetho]

dimocraps like discussing gay butt ranger bean flicker issues because --

They're comfortable with the topic.

Just that simple.

Get them outside their comfort zone, get them talking about something they're unfamiliar with -- Like, The Economy, Foreign Policy, National Defense and they're like a fish out of water.

dimocraps like things they're familiar and comfortable with.

Just look in here..... You start a butt-ranger thread and it's like flies to shit. It will VERY quickly grow to hundreds, sometimes THOUSANDS, of posts in no time at all.

Start a thread about something....... I dunno, something actually important to the future of America and Americans like -- Over Regulation, our faltering Economy, the out-of-control EPA, obama giving away huge sections of the Globe to murderers, rapists, torturers, woman-abusing goat fucking scum or even mooslums......

And it will wilt on the vine.

dimocraps only want o participate in threads they understand so they can give each other reach-arounds post after post.

It's like Alinsky said --



RULE 2: “Never go outside the expertise of your people.” It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone.

We wonder why dimocrap scum don't address 'real' issues?

This is why. They stay away from things they have no knowledge of. Which is about everything outside of gay butt sex, bean flicking and the re-writing of, and lying about, history

 

[Delta4Embassy]

To me it's one of the least important.

Of FAR greater import is climate change, then US-led wars of aggression, then planetary defense (asteroids and other impacters.)

climate change and the attack of the asteroids----------------Wow, what an idiot.

how about the radical islamic wars of agression? no problem?
how about 18 trillion in debt?

Debt's too much to ever pay off and will result in catastrophic collapse eventually. So why worry about it? Can't do anything about it. Can do things about other things though ensuring the world continues if not johnny come lately countries.

It's called triage, save who you can, don't waste time and resources on those you can't. US is beyond saving.

 

[Redfish]

Duh,, have you heard of affirmative action programs? Duh.

Sure have...they were found to be constitutional

you fricken moron. affirmative action is SPECIAL TREATMENT. I don't give a flying fuck if the SC found them constitutional, they provide special treatment to some people over others. They are not in compliance with the constitutional guarantee of EQUAL treatment under the law.

You asked who was getting special treatment, It told you. Now STFU

So now this thread is about affirmative action?

LOL>...

no its about national priorities. It asks a simple question which you lefties seem unable to answer.

No, its about you being unable to stay on topic in your own thread- you know- your very own - its not 'Gay' thread...

threads migrate over time. it was started asking a question about national priorities in our national debate. I cannot help it if you are too dense to understand.

 

[rightwinger]

Worked

All Americans benefitted from affirmative action

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

are you totally fricken crazy? affirmative action did not create female CEOs. Those women did it on their own by hard work and intelligence.

and you know nothing about GS pay scales if you think they justify women making less in the obozo white house.

Yes, yes.....Conservatives always do everything "on their own"

I am well versed on GS pay scales and how they are set. That is why I laugh at your assertion that Obama pays women less. The GS scales are established before he took office

 

[Redfish]

To me it's one of the least important.

Of FAR greater import is climate change, then US-led wars of aggression, then planetary defense (asteroids and other impacters.)

climate change and the attack of the asteroids----------------Wow, what an idiot.

how about the radical islamic wars of agression? no problem?
how about 18 trillion in debt?

Debt's too much to ever pay off and will result in catastrophic collapse eventually. So why worry about it? Can't do anything about it. Can do things about other things though ensuring the world continues if not johnny come lately countries.

It's called triage, save who you can, don't waste time and resources on those you can't. US is beyond saving.

actually we can do something about the debt, like paying down the principal rather than only paying interest.

as to climate change, the earth's climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years, it will be changing hundreds of millions of years from now. Man has never had anything to do with it, and never will.

 

[Kosh]

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

are you totally fricken crazy? affirmative action did not create female CEOs. Those women did it on their own by hard work and intelligence.

and you know nothing about GS pay scales if you think they justify women making less in the obozo white house.

Yes, yes.....Conservatives always do everything "on their own"

I am well versed on GS pay scales and how they are set. That is why I laugh at your assertion that Obama pays women less. The GS scales are established before he took office

See how the far left will defend their prophets and religious leaders..

7 years in and still making excuses and pushing blame away from their religion..

 

[Redfish]

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

are you totally fricken crazy? affirmative action did not create female CEOs. Those women did it on their own by hard work and intelligence.

and you know nothing about GS pay scales if you think they justify women making less in the obozo white house.

Yes, yes.....Conservatives always do evrything "on their own"


GS pay is based on your GS rating. obama has men and women doing the same jobs but the woman is a GS 11 and the man is a GS 13. There are also steps within each grade and in every case except Valerie Jarret, the women are lower than the men.

I am well versed on GS pay scales and how they are set. That is why I laugh at your assertion that Obama pays women less. The GS scales are established before he took office

 

[Delta4Embassy]

To me it's one of the least important.

Of FAR greater import is climate change, then US-led wars of aggression, then planetary defense (asteroids and other impacters.)

climate change and the attack of the asteroids----------------Wow, what an idiot.

how about the radical islamic wars of agression? no problem?
how about 18 trillion in debt?

Debt's too much to ever pay off and will result in catastrophic collapse eventually. So why worry about it? Can't do anything about it. Can do things about other things though ensuring the world continues if not johnny come lately countries.

It's called triage, save who you can, don't waste time and resources on those you can't. US is beyond saving.

actually we can do something about the debt, like paying down the principal rather than only paying interest.

as to climate change, the earth's climate has been changing for hundreds of millions of years, it will be changing hundreds of millions of years from now. Man has never had anything to do with it, and never will.

In all, there's $1.36 trillion dollars in total circulation. Debt's over 18 trillion. Could seize every dollar in private hands and not even make a dent in the debt.

 

[bodecea]

Afirmative action stopped special treatment of white males and opened the door for women and minorities

so the fix for discrimination is more discrimination? Brilliant.

Worked

All Americans benefitted from affirmative action

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Prove it.

 

[Syriusly]

To me it's one of the least important.

Of FAR greater import is climate change, then US-led wars of aggression, then planetary defense (asteroids and other impacters.)

climate change and the attack of the asteroids----------------Wow, what an idiot.

how about the radical islamic wars of agression? no problem?
how about 18 trillion in debt?

Interesting how you don't - or are unable to even address his concerns.

Risk analysis looks at both the likelihood of 'risk' and the potential 'harm'
You obviously dismiss climate change- but any risk analysis would look at the likelihood and the harm if it is true- even assuming that the likelhood is low, the predicted and possible harm to the United States is huge- climate change could literally result in large segments of the United States disappearing underwater.

Likewise impacts by asteroids- we know that asteroids have hit earth with devestating results in the past- why would you dismiss that concern when you know that the potential harm could actually destroy the entire United States?

Now- lets look at your concerns?
Radical Islamic Wars? Certainly radical islamist pose a more likely risk to the United States- but their potential harm to the United States is far smaller than climate change or an asteroid impact.

And 18 trillion in debt? Whether or not that is an actual risk to the United States is even more debatable than climate change.

I can understand why these are your concerns- but Delta's concerns are logically as valid as yours- but you are unable or unwilling to consider them.

 

[RandallFlagg]

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

are you totally fricken crazy? affirmative action did not create female CEOs. Those women did it on their own by hard work and intelligence.

and you know nothing about GS pay scales if you think they justify women making less in the obozo white house.

Yes, yes.....Conservatives always do everything "on their own"

I am well versed on GS pay scales and how they are set. That is why I laugh at your assertion that Obama pays women less. The GS scales are established before he took office

Is that a fact? Then, I'm sure that (being well-versed, as you claim) the GS rules and regulations do not apply to the president OR his cabinet, his staff or theirs. Nice try, but no cigar.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

My concerns are global and species-wide. My concerns don't end at borders. I regard the planet as a whole unit, not broken up into countries, screw countries. Same with people, we're one people not lots of different peoples. Thus what I choose to care about and focus my energies on effects everyone or everything, not merely a tiny inconsequential fraction of the whole like the USA. If it comes down to saving the Asian continent of the USA, my only question is how many live on the entire Asian continent vs the US. If more in Asia, that's who I care more about.

 

[Edgetho]

how did white kids who were denied admittance to college benefit? how did white college graduates who did not get jobs that were given to less qualified blacks benefit.

Discrimination is discrimination no matter who is the victim or who is the benficiary.

Good question...

Just remember that before affirmative action women were severely restricted in the professions they could choose. Woman at the top of your class? You can become a teacher, nurse ...maybe executive secretary

CEO? Forget it honey....you don't have what it takes

true, do you think affirmative action fixed that? The women in the obama administration make less than men doing the same jobs. WTF?

Of course it did. Prior to affirmative action, women were slated for support jobs and blacks were slated for menial labor....Affirmative action changed that

Women in the Obama administration are paid in accordance with Civil Service Regulations and salaries are not set by the President

are you totally fricken crazy? affirmative action did not create female CEOs. Those women did it on their own by hard work and intelligence.

and you know nothing about GS pay scales if you think they justify women making less in the obozo white house.

Yes, yes.....Conservatives always do everything "on their own"

I am well versed on GS pay scales and how they are set. That is why I laugh at your assertion that Obama pays women less. The GS scales are established before he took office

Try this one, it's more appropriate