Is homeschooling a good solution?

[P@triot]

Kids should be taught to think for themselves. They should be give age-appropriate information from all sides of a given issue. RWNJ traitors cannot and will not allow that because kids would never agree to be the same fundie nutters their parents are.

Kids dont have the capability to make decisions. That's why we don't hold them responsible for their mistakes. My RWNJ parents ruled with an iron hsnd. We were told that having our own opinions came with the ability and willingness to support ourselves. Until tben we had no opinions of our own.

I am "right wing" but I like asking my kids their opinions and what THEY think is the best option etc. I prefer to guide them instead of DICTATING to them. I have expectations that were well known when they were VERY young and they have been repeated so they know what we expect. So far no reason to force anything on them....odd how kids usually make the RIGHT choice when allowed to do it themselves I am more strict with their clothing options than anything else lol

You have to realize - liberals play a bunch of misinformation cards (like your children will lack social skills, or they will be "brainwashed") because homeschooling is one of those things that scares the living hell out of them. Indoctrination is the only thing they have going for them. An objective person, when provided the facts, will choose conservatism every time. If the American people start moving towards homeschooling, the dependent class will have no way of convincing the young and impressionable why failed liberal socialism is the way to go.

Yes, I spend all day long indoctrinating my students in the wonders of socialist Algebra, which sounds like it should be a terrorist group.

Most parents cannot teach their way out of a wet paper bag because they never learned it themselves.

If that is not the case, I say home school to your little hearts content! My own granddaughter is being home schooled.

I just get pissed off when people try to use bogus statistics to back up their arguments. Anyone with a knowledge of statistics would know that their data is flawed.

For starters, there is nothing "flawed" about the data.

Now, as for the rest of this, you are simply completely misunderstanding. I don't know of a parent who can't homeschool their children through grade school. I mean, guess who taught my children to speak? My wife and I. Guess who taught them their colors?? My wife and I. Guess who taught them to count? My wife and I. Teaching small children the basics is so easy, anybody can do it. Anybody.

Now, once they get into middle school and high school and the material gets a little more challenging, it's still not that big of deal. For starters, the state provides material for each lesson that the parent goes over which shows how to teach the lesson. If that's not enough (and in many cases, it's probably not), the internet wields endless volumes of information - including videos on YouTube which have visual aids. If that's still not enough, many parents hire tutors who specialize in that subject for that grade. Finally, not all home schooling is done by parents or tutors. Many states actually offer online learning. So the student is still learning from a government educator, but from their home. Their are a multitude of options.

We live in the technology era my friend. Learning extends far beyond brick and mortar buildings these days.

 

[bripat9643]

ITT I see a lot of people who lack a basic education wishing to pass on their lack of a basic education to their children rather than giving their children the chance to be educated, form their own opinions, and succeed in life.

If your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by basic education...it may mean that your world view is wrong...not that basic education is wrong.

Or it may be that the more liberals have gotten involved in education, the more it has failed. Since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education, we have seen national scores plummet. So the "lack of basic education" I see is from people like you who have no idea what they are talking about, are mindless little minions to the system, refuse to question their masters, and are too lazy to take responsibility for their children - preferring instead to have the government raise them.

Seriously? Okay prove me wrong. Point to the 1st world nation that doesn't offer any public schooling that is outperforming the US.

You think that they are teaching modern feminist theory or something in high school...you do realize that those kids are just learning to bare basics of knowledge in our world right? Nobody is going to be asking them to stain a sample of microorganisms, code an elaborate application, or further economic theory or research. These kids are learning basic crap like calculus, (basic) chemistry, and English literature.

Again, if your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by a BASIC education, then your world view is probably weak.

A lot of countries have what we call "school choice." The state pays for the schooling, but parents can put their kids in a public school or a private school.

Education in Denmark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

Education in Denmark is compulsory (Danish: undervisningspligt) for children below the age of 15 or 16, even though it is not compulsory to attend Folkeskole ("public school"). The school years up to the age of fifteen/sixteen are known as Folkeskole, since any education has to match the level offered there. About 82% of young people take further education in addition to this.[1]Government-funded education is usually free of charge and open to all. Denmark has a tradition of private schools and about 15.6% of all children at basic school level attend private schools, which are supported by a voucher system.[2][3]

The Education Index, published with the UN's Human Development Index in 2008, based on data from 2006, lists Denmark as 0.993, amongst the highest in the world, tied for first with Australia, Finland and New Zealand.[4]​

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Kids should be taught to think for themselves. They should be give age-appropriate information from all sides of a given issue. RWNJ traitors cannot and will not allow that because kids would never agree to be the same fundie nutters their parents are.

Kids dont have the capability to make decisions. That's why we don't hold them responsible for their mistakes. My RWNJ parents ruled with an iron hsnd. We were told that having our own opinions came with the ability and willingness to support ourselves. Until tben we had no opinions of our own.

I am "right wing" but I like asking my kids their opinions and what THEY think is the best option etc. I prefer to guide them instead of DICTATING to them. I have expectations that were well known when they were VERY young and they have been repeated so they know what we expect. So far no reason to force anything on them....odd how kids usually make the RIGHT choice when allowed to do it themselves I am more strict with their clothing options than anything else lol

You have to realize - liberals play a bunch of misinformation cards (like your children will lack social skills, or they will be "brainwashed") because homeschooling is one of those things that scares the living hell out of them. Indoctrination is the only thing they have going for them. An objective person, when provided the facts, will choose conservatism every time. If the American people start moving towards homeschooling, the dependent class will have no way of convincing the young and impressionable why failed liberal socialism is the way to go.

BINGO!

That's also the reason they hate vouchers. When parents can choose their schools, they don't have to put their kid in a school where he will be pumped full of leftwing propaganda.

Every person in this country has school choice. Move to the area that has the best schools. I did it every time I moved in the military for my kids. If you can't, that is your choice!

 

[initforme]

I could not teach in today's world. Not for the pittance they are paid for putting up with today's entitled youth. I would never forego my earning potential to do that. Why anyone does is bizarre. Its so much easier to make double in the private sector for half the effort.

 

[bripat9643]

Kids should be taught to think for themselves. They should be give age-appropriate information from all sides of a given issue. RWNJ traitors cannot and will not allow that because kids would never agree to be the same fundie nutters their parents are.

Kids dont have the capability to make decisions. That's why we don't hold them responsible for their mistakes. My RWNJ parents ruled with an iron hsnd. We were told that having our own opinions came with the ability and willingness to support ourselves. Until tben we had no opinions of our own.

I am "right wing" but I like asking my kids their opinions and what THEY think is the best option etc. I prefer to guide them instead of DICTATING to them. I have expectations that were well known when they were VERY young and they have been repeated so they know what we expect. So far no reason to force anything on them....odd how kids usually make the RIGHT choice when allowed to do it themselves I am more strict with their clothing options than anything else lol

You have to realize - liberals play a bunch of misinformation cards (like your children will lack social skills, or they will be "brainwashed") because homeschooling is one of those things that scares the living hell out of them. Indoctrination is the only thing they have going for them. An objective person, when provided the facts, will choose conservatism every time. If the American people start moving towards homeschooling, the dependent class will have no way of convincing the young and impressionable why failed liberal socialism is the way to go.

BINGO!

That's also the reason they hate vouchers. When parents can choose their schools, they don't have to put their kid in a school where he will be pumped full of leftwing propaganda.

Every person in this country has school choice. Move to the area that has the best schools. I did it every time I moved in the military for my kids. If you can't, that is your choice!

Bullshit. They don't have a choice about paying for the failed government schools.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Home 'schooling' is about politics, not education.

And fundie cults.

It’s disturbing that parents feel the need to make children political pawns, to sequester them from a society they’re members of regardless, all for reasons devoid of logic and merit.

 

[bripat9643]

I could not teach in today's world. Not for the pittance they are paid for putting up with today's entitled youth. I would never forego my earning potential to do that. Why anyone does is bizarre. Its so much easier to make double in the private sector for half the effort.

"pittance?" They hardly do any work. They have a 6 hour work day and they only work about 180 days out of the year. They get paid far more than they are worth, if you ask me.

 

[bripat9643]

Home 'schooling' is about politics, not education.

And fundie cults.

It’s disturbing that parents feel the need to make children political pawns, to sequester them from a society they’re members of regardless, all for reasons devoid of logic and merit.

Politicians are teachers are the ones who make them political pawns. Home schooling is a means of rescuing them from the politics of the government school system.

 

[P@triot]

ITT I see a lot of people who lack a basic education wishing to pass on their lack of a basic education to their children rather than giving their children the chance to be educated, form their own opinions, and succeed in life.

If your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by basic education...it may mean that your world view is wrong...not that basic education is wrong.

Or it may be that the more liberals have gotten involved in education, the more it has failed. Since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education, we have seen national scores plummet. So the "lack of basic education" I see is from people like you who have no idea what they are talking about, are mindless little minions to the system, refuse to question their masters, and are too lazy to take responsibility for their children - preferring instead to have the government raise them.

Seriously? Okay prove me wrong. Point to the 1st world nation that doesn't offer any public schooling that is outperforming the US.

You think that they are teaching modern feminist theory or something in high school...you do realize that those kids are just learning to bare basics of knowledge in our world right? Nobody is going to be asking them to stain a sample of microorganisms, code an elaborate application, or further economic theory or research. These kids are learning basic crap like calculus, (basic) chemistry, and English literature.

Again, if your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by a BASIC education, then your world view is probably weak.

Again - since liberals have gotten more involved with education and since they have moved more and more control over it to the federal government, we have seen performance plummet. That is just a simple fact.

I don't understand your question above because it completely supports what I said. Just about every other nation is outperforming our public school systems. Which is exactly why so many parents are turning to homeschooling. And the results are astounding. Homeschooled children are crushing public school children in every metric.

Just about every nation is outperforming our public schools...I'm not actually doubting that. What I am pointing out is HOW MANY OF THEM DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC SCHOOLS? Do you think that all of their children are homeschooled or something? Also, you do realize that most of those nations (except maybe China off the top of my head) has actually MORE liberal views / education than our own nation. If anything, the fact that you point towards other nations as being better only leads to the conclusion that you would like to mirror their systems, which enforces FAR more liberal views than our own.

I don't actually doubt that homeschooled children crush public schooled children. I'd agree with that. The issue is that homeschooling is not a realistic answer on a broad basis for our population. It is a great answer if the kid's parents are already well-educated and financially well off or if the kid is an exceptional academic star. However, looking towards homeschooling as a broad stroked answer to our nation's educational problems brings us BACKWARDS rather than forwards. Do you really want for half of the working population with families to quit their jobs in order to educate their children? Do you realize what you would be calling upon in order for this to happen?

The clear answer is to encourage a BETTER public education rather than encouraging our work force to quit their jobs to haphazardly educate their children in a manner they deem best.

First of all - this is a very narrow view of the entire issue. And I'll address that as I go.

Second - I'm not advocating either chose. I happen to LOVE homeschooling. However, I'm not trying to force that on society. If a parent wants to send their child to public school - great. I'm a Constitutional conservative. Ergo, I'm all about freedom and choice. I would never support placing a gun to a parents head and forcing them to homeschool.

Third - as far as families arranging for homeschooling, this is where you have an extremely narrow view. For starters, I would advocate that parents do whatever is in their children's best interest. If that means one of the parents quitting their jobs and living in a smaller house or whatever, so be it. Isn't your children more important than a career or material items? I know mine are to me. Furthermore, no parent has to quit their job to homeschool. There are enough hours after work and on the weekends to home school. A child might have to "attend" school from 6:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., but it's easily doable. Also, there are retired grandparents that can handle it. I had a manager whose wife homeschooled their grandchildren. There are endless options.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Kids should be taught to think for themselves. They should be give age-appropriate information from all sides of a given issue. RWNJ traitors cannot and will not allow that because kids would never agree to be the same fundie nutters their parents are.

Kids dont have the capability to make decisions. That's why we don't hold them responsible for their mistakes. My RWNJ parents ruled with an iron hsnd. We were told that having our own opinions came with the ability and willingness to support ourselves. Until tben we had no opinions of our own.

I am "right wing" but I like asking my kids their opinions and what THEY think is the best option etc. I prefer to guide them instead of DICTATING to them. I have expectations that were well known when they were VERY young and they have been repeated so they know what we expect. So far no reason to force anything on them....odd how kids usually make the RIGHT choice when allowed to do it themselves I am more strict with their clothing options than anything else lol

You have to realize - liberals play a bunch of misinformation cards (like your children will lack social skills, or they will be "brainwashed") because homeschooling is one of those things that scares the living hell out of them. Indoctrination is the only thing they have going for them. An objective person, when provided the facts, will choose conservatism every time. If the American people start moving towards homeschooling, the dependent class will have no way of convincing the young and impressionable why failed liberal socialism is the way to go.

Yes, I spend all day long indoctrinating my students in the wonders of socialist Algebra, which sounds like it should be a terrorist group.

Most parents cannot teach their way out of a wet paper bag because they never learned it themselves.

If that is not the case, I say home school to your little hearts content! My own granddaughter is being home schooled.

I just get pissed off when people try to use bogus statistics to back up their arguments. Anyone with a knowledge of statistics would know that their data is flawed.

For starters, there is nothing "flawed" about the data.

Now, as for the rest of this, you are simply completely misunderstanding. I don't know of a parent who can't homeschool their children through grade school. I mean, guess who taught my children to speak? My wife and I. Guess who taught them their colors?? My wife and I. Guess who taught them to count? My wife and I. Teaching small children the basics is so easy, anybody can do it. Anybody.

Now, once they get into middle school and high school and the material gets a little more challenging, it's still not that big of deal. For starters, the state provides material for each lesson that the parent goes over which shows how to teach the lesson. If that's not enough (and in many cases, it's probably not), the internet wields endless volumes of information - including videos on YouTube which have visual aids. If that's still not enough, many parents hire tutors who specialize in that subject for that grade. Finally, not all home schooling is done by parents or tutors. Many states actually offer online learning. So the student is still learning from a government educator, but from their home. Their are a multitude of options.

We live in the technology era my friend. Learning extends far beyond brick and mortar buildings these days.

Nothing flawed about the data? Look at some of the writings by Gerald Bracey on how educational statistics are manipulated Home schooling advocates are some of the most guilty.

You are speaking from your own experience and that is NOT the norm. Far too many states leave just about everything up to the home schoolers because they have been brow beaten into submission by lobbyists and the courts.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Homeschooling cost about 300+ dollars a month, and that is a cheap one...Can you afford that?

Pffff...that's a steal next to the cost of government schooling. By the time you get through with the waste, fraud, abuse, and worst of all - the unions, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it were $300 per hour for each student.

That's odd! I raised three children all the way K-12 in public schools and I hardly spent anywhere near that much.

Why must you lie to support your position? Is it that important to you?

 

[initforme]

Teachers hardly do any work? Step in and do it then. Forego a decent salary and be a great teacher and be a part of the solution. This is your chance. You can teach how great america is.... Indoctrinate and create little patriots.

 

[Never3ndr]

ITT I see a lot of people who lack a basic education wishing to pass on their lack of a basic education to their children rather than giving their children the chance to be educated, form their own opinions, and succeed in life.

If your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by basic education...it may mean that your world view is wrong...not that basic education is wrong.

Or it may be that the more liberals have gotten involved in education, the more it has failed. Since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education, we have seen national scores plummet. So the "lack of basic education" I see is from people like you who have no idea what they are talking about, are mindless little minions to the system, refuse to question their masters, and are too lazy to take responsibility for their children - preferring instead to have the government raise them.

Seriously? Okay prove me wrong. Point to the 1st world nation that doesn't offer any public schooling that is outperforming the US.

You think that they are teaching modern feminist theory or something in high school...you do realize that those kids are just learning to bare basics of knowledge in our world right? Nobody is going to be asking them to stain a sample of microorganisms, code an elaborate application, or further economic theory or research. These kids are learning basic crap like calculus, (basic) chemistry, and English literature.

Again, if your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by a BASIC education, then your world view is probably weak.

Again - since liberals have gotten more involved with education and since they have moved more and more control over it to the federal government, we have seen performance plummet. That is just a simple fact.

I don't understand your question above because it completely supports what I said. Just about every other nation is outperforming our public school systems. Which is exactly why so many parents are turning to homeschooling. And the results are astounding. Homeschooled children are crushing public school children in every metric.

Just about every nation is outperforming our public schools...I'm not actually doubting that. What I am pointing out is HOW MANY OF THEM DO NOT HAVE PUBLIC SCHOOLS? Do you think that all of their children are homeschooled or something? Also, you do realize that most of those nations (except maybe China off the top of my head) has actually MORE liberal views / education than our own nation. If anything, the fact that you point towards other nations as being better only leads to the conclusion that you would like to mirror their systems, which enforces FAR more liberal views than our own.

I don't actually doubt that homeschooled children crush public schooled children. I'd agree with that. The issue is that homeschooling is not a realistic answer on a broad basis for our population. It is a great answer if the kid's parents are already well-educated and financially well off or if the kid is an exceptional academic star. However, looking towards homeschooling as a broad stroked answer to our nation's educational problems brings us BACKWARDS rather than forwards. Do you really want for half of the working population with families to quit their jobs in order to educate their children? Do you realize what you would be calling upon in order for this to happen?

The clear answer is to encourage a BETTER public education rather than encouraging our work force to quit their jobs to haphazardly educate their children in a manner they deem best.

First of all - this is a very narrow view of the entire issue. And I'll address that as I go.

Second - I'm not advocating either chose. I happen to LOVE homeschooling. However, I'm not trying to force that on society. If a parent wants to send their child to public school - great. I'm a Constitutional conservative. Ergo, I'm all about freedom and choice. I would never support placing a gun to a parents head and forcing them to homeschool.

Third - as far as families arranging for homeschooling, this is where you have an extremely narrow view. For starters, I would advocate that parents do whatever is in their children's best interest. If that means one of the parents quitting their jobs and living in a smaller house or whatever, so be it. Isn't your children more important than a career or material items? I know mine are to me. Furthermore, no parent has to quit their job to homeschool. There are enough hours after work and on the weekends to home school. A child might have to "attend" school from 6:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m., but it's easily doable. Also, there are retired grandparents that can handle it. I had a manager whose wife homeschooled their grandchildren. There are endless options.

My understanding was that the individuals defending homeschooling were looking towards it as a broad based "solution" to the perceived "liberal" education that was being provided by our public schools. If that is not your position then i apologize for misunderstanding. I agree that homeschooling should remain an option, and, in some cases, should even be encouraged. However, I would like to re-iterate that, implemented on a broad basis, I believe this to be highly detrimental to the American economy rather than beneficial.

I agree that parents should do what is in their child's best interest. It is with that in mind that I am actually advising AGAINST homeschooling (again, on a broad basis). How many individuals do you know that are educated enough, financially stable enough, dedicated enough, and experienced enough to provide a similar educational experience to the one provided by our public schools? I'll be honest, myself included, I know of nobody (not even teacher friends in the public school system). Why? Well, I'll be damned if I can say that I remember and can aptly teach the subject I learned...from biology to physics to latin (yeah, I choose a horrible foreign language) to even some of the later mathematics or nuanced points of English...I'd be either arrogant or delusional to say I'm as qualified as the individuals in our school system. I feel like if a parent REALLY wants to help their child be educated they will encourage them to study and engage with them (supplement their education) rather than try to teach them everything themselves.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

[UOTE="JakeWIlls92, post: 14043651, member: 48359"]I don't believe liberal parents should be forced to make their children attend conservative public schools in red states and vice versa.

Home schooling is great if you want to raise a child with no exposure to any other ideas than your own,

Most people do not have the capability to homeschool because their own education is lacking or it is not feasible because of work schedules, etc.

If you can do it, great! If not, don't try to use it as a dodge for mandatory attendance laws or you will just be raising another idiot dependent on social services. ellen

If you go online, there are many outstanding organizations for people who want to home school along with excellent resources.

Since when do our pathetic, progressive government school system teach any conservatism whatsoever? Studies show that they socialize just fine.

Here's a great idea for better schools, allow parents to send their children to the school of their choice. If it is a private school, religious school or whatever, give them a voucher. Private schools do it better and for less money than government schools.

Private schools do it better and for less money than government schools.

Just would love to see your evidence of this.... I am sure you have loads...

I will point out the best education systems in the world are generally public...

Why shouldn't they? They get to select their students, throw out anyone with a disciplinary problem or academic trouble.

As to the costs, that is really not true. There are some very expensive private schools in this country and getting into the good ones will cost you some money that adds up quickly.

 

[bripat9643]

Teachers hardly do any work? Step in and do it then. Forego a decent salary and be a great teacher and be a part of the solution. This is your chance. You can teach how great america is.... Indoctrinate and create little patriots.

Education majors have the lowest entry scores of any major. If they could do my job, they would be doing it. I make more money precisely because not that many people can do what I do. Virtually anyone can teach kids to read, on the other hand.

 

[P@triot]

Kids dont have the capability to make decisions. That's why we don't hold them responsible for their mistakes. My RWNJ parents ruled with an iron hsnd. We were told that having our own opinions came with the ability and willingness to support ourselves. Until tben we had no opinions of our own.

I am "right wing" but I like asking my kids their opinions and what THEY think is the best option etc. I prefer to guide them instead of DICTATING to them. I have expectations that were well known when they were VERY young and they have been repeated so they know what we expect. So far no reason to force anything on them....odd how kids usually make the RIGHT choice when allowed to do it themselves I am more strict with their clothing options than anything else lol

You have to realize - liberals play a bunch of misinformation cards (like your children will lack social skills, or they will be "brainwashed") because homeschooling is one of those things that scares the living hell out of them. Indoctrination is the only thing they have going for them. An objective person, when provided the facts, will choose conservatism every time. If the American people start moving towards homeschooling, the dependent class will have no way of convincing the young and impressionable why failed liberal socialism is the way to go.

Yes, I spend all day long indoctrinating my students in the wonders of socialist Algebra, which sounds like it should be a terrorist group.

Most parents cannot teach their way out of a wet paper bag because they never learned it themselves.

If that is not the case, I say home school to your little hearts content! My own granddaughter is being home schooled.

I just get pissed off when people try to use bogus statistics to back up their arguments. Anyone with a knowledge of statistics would know that their data is flawed.

For starters, there is nothing "flawed" about the data.

Now, as for the rest of this, you are simply completely misunderstanding. I don't know of a parent who can't homeschool their children through grade school. I mean, guess who taught my children to speak? My wife and I. Guess who taught them their colors?? My wife and I. Guess who taught them to count? My wife and I. Teaching small children the basics is so easy, anybody can do it. Anybody.

Now, once they get into middle school and high school and the material gets a little more challenging, it's still not that big of deal. For starters, the state provides material for each lesson that the parent goes over which shows how to teach the lesson. If that's not enough (and in many cases, it's probably not), the internet wields endless volumes of information - including videos on YouTube which have visual aids. If that's still not enough, many parents hire tutors who specialize in that subject for that grade. Finally, not all home schooling is done by parents or tutors. Many states actually offer online learning. So the student is still learning from a government educator, but from their home. Their are a multitude of options.

We live in the technology era my friend. Learning extends far beyond brick and mortar buildings these days.

Nothing flawed about the data? Look at some of the writings by Gerald Bracey on how educational statistics are manipulated Home schooling advocates are some of the most guilty.

You are speaking from your own experience and that is NOT the norm. Far too many states leave just about everything up to the home schoolers because they have been brow beaten into submission by lobbyists and the courts.

Ok - lets say that's true. Lets say you're a right. Let me ask you an honest question (I'm truly not being sarcastic here): so what? Lets say that the states have been "brow beaten into submission" - isn't that the will of the people winning? Why should the government have control over my child? The people are supposed to control their own lives in America. That's why this nation was founded and that's how this nation was founded. So where do you, or a Democrat, or anyone derive the power to dictate to me how and when my child should be educated? If I want to homeschool them and I don't do a good job with it at all, how is that any of your business or the governments business? Shouldn't we err on the side of freedom?

Let me leave you with one of my favorite quotes about this issue from Thomas Jefferson:

“It is better to tolerate the rare instance of a parent refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings and ideas by the forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of the father.”

I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on this if you are willing to have a serious and honest discussion.

 

[Moonglow]

Education 3.36
Foreign Language 3.34
English 3.33
Music 3.30
Religion 3.22
Biology 3.02
Psychology 2.98
Economics 2.95
Engineering 2.90
Math 2.90
Chemistry 2.78
What's the Average College GPA? By Major?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

ITT I see a lot of people who lack a basic education wishing to pass on their lack of a basic education to their children rather than giving their children the chance to be educated, form their own opinions, and succeed in life.

If your world view is so fragile as to be defeated by basic education...it may mean that your world view is wrong...not that basic education is wrong.

Or it may be that the more liberals have gotten involved in education, the more it has failed. Since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education, we have seen national scores plummet. So the "lack of basic education" I see is from people like you who have no idea what they are talking about, are mindless little minions to the system, refuse to question their masters, and are too lazy to take responsibility for their children - preferring instead to have the government raise them.

Really? Which scores? What is your metric for making that determination? What has the Department of Education done to cause this so-called plummet?

 

[initforme]

Well then you should quit crying, quit whining, take a huge paycut and teach kids to read. Be a part of the solution or part of the problem. If you chose not to teach, you are part of the problem.

 

[initforme]

You are most likely overpaid and not worth your pay...