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(and since you do not know the definition of the word sovereignty go look it up).
What in your little pea brain gives you the idea that I don't know the meaning of the word "Sovereignty," idiot?
Because you think people moving to America, paying taxes and making the US government richer makes the US government less powerful.
Perhaps when ALL your posts are, you idiot its you whose the idiotI've entertained you for free.
Not very well, idiot, not very well.
Remember this part?
The US will never embrace your asinine fantasy of open borders no matter how much a fool you make of yourself here playing Cliff Clavin.
That's the part you need to remember, missy.
Mr Grand Wizard, Sir:
The Know Nothing was a movement by the nativist American political faction of the 1850s, characterized by political xenophobia, anti-Catholic sentiment, and occasional bouts of violence against the groups the nativists targeted. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, who were often regarded as hostile to republican values and controlled by the Pope in Rome.
How come your intellectual ancestors never referred to early immigrants as "illegal"?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Which Federal Agency "legalized" aliens before 1888.
Please don't be a retard and purposely confuse NATURALIZATION with IMMIGRATION?
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I leave all "retarded" commentary to you and assholes like DuddyDolt.
If Naturalization is the exclusive province of the Federal Government -- under the Constitution itself -- and it is, then the MANNER in which it may be granted is also up to the Federal Government ENTIRELY.
Quit stonewalling and answer the questions:
Even the case you cited , admits that the FEDERAL authority to deport is based on the fact that , at least , 5 Supreme Court "Justices" are racist white motherfuckers:
"Courts have long recognized the power to expel or exclude aliens as a fundamental sovereign attribute exercised by the Government's political departments largely immune from judicial control. The Chinese Exclusion Case, 130 U.S. 581 (1889);
Courts, not the founding father nor the Constitution
SHAUGHNESSY v. UNITED STATES EX REL. MEZEI, 73 S. Ct. 625, 345 U.S. 206 (U.S. 03/16/1953)
But you and your ilk are willing to allow white judges to perpetrate crimes because it suits your racist inclinations
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Contumacious and starcraftzzz,
You guys may as well hang it up. Liability can type in big, bold and colorful letters along with put pictures into his posts. His comrade can call you all kinds of names as he hears them on Comedy Central.
There is no doubt that the federal government CAN do a lot of things that these guys claim relative to naturalization. The fact is, they do not actually do it. In most instances, you'd be hard pressed to find a law addressing the need and fact situations. Between the three of us, we can understand the difference between naturalization and immigration - or more accurately just people being GUESTS. Forget it guys, it's a concept that these NSM types cannot grasp.
The reality is, the xenophobes will argue against every ruling all the way to hell, knowing they are wrong. Let's take one of their arguments:
"Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme, independent authority over a geographic area, such as a territory."
Sovereignty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So I don't get to say who visits my house? Private employers don't have the right to hire who they want - be sovereign over their business?
Who do you wish to be sovereign in this context? The people or the government?
Liability and his bitch hate foreigners. The only way they see for people to live is to sell their soul, wait twenty years standing in some imaginary line where they can become citizens. In the process, if that situation creates a bad precedent that you and I will be judged by, they are content to destroy American Liberty to rid this country of the brown people.
Yet, for all their bravado, neither of those men have ever volunteered to man the border. Neither of them has shot one of these people they claim are criminals. Neither of them has done anything except look for excuses to wage war at a cost to your Liberties and mine. Then they expect someone else to do their wet work. The only reason we are obliged to waste time on them is the hopes that they will offend the wrong bureaucrat and be hauled in for treason.
I don't care one way or another about the people from south of the border. I'm not related to them. I fight for their rights because I believe in Liberty. I am doing for them the things I would want them to do for me in a similar circumstance. Further, I am protecting my Liberty. As one of our founding fathers so aptly put it:
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
- Thomas Paine
The price we're paying is for protecting others from oppression. The tyrants here will be held accountable at some point.
So I don't get to say who visits my house? .
Contumacious and starcraftzzz,
You guys may as well hang it up. Liability can type in big, bold and colorful letters along with put pictures into his posts. His comrade can call you all kinds of names as he hears them on Comedy Central.
There is no doubt that the federal government CAN do a lot of things that these guys claim relative to naturalization. The fact is, they do not actually do it. In most instances, you'd be hard pressed to find a law addressing the need and fact situations. Between the three of us, we can understand the difference between naturalization and immigration - or more accurately just people being GUESTS. Forget it guys, it's a concept that these NSM types cannot grasp.
The reality is, the xenophobes will argue against every ruling all the way to hell, knowing they are wrong. Let's take one of their arguments:
"Sovereignty is the quality of having supreme, independent authority over a geographic area, such as a territory."
Sovereignty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So I don't get to say who visits my house? Private employers don't have the right to hire who they want - be sovereign over their business?
Who do you wish to be sovereign in this context? The people or the government?
Liability and his bitch hate foreigners. The only way they see for people to live is to sell their soul, wait twenty years standing in some imaginary line where they can become citizens. In the process, if that situation creates a bad precedent that you and I will be judged by, they are content to destroy American Liberty to rid this country of the brown people.
Yet, for all their bravado, neither of those men have ever volunteered to man the border. Neither of them has shot one of these people they claim are criminals. Neither of them has done anything except look for excuses to wage war at a cost to your Liberties and mine. Then they expect someone else to do their wet work. The only reason we are obliged to waste time on them is the hopes that they will offend the wrong bureaucrat and be hauled in for treason.
I don't care one way or another about the people from south of the border. I'm not related to them. I fight for their rights because I believe in Liberty. I am doing for them the things I would want them to do for me in a similar circumstance. Further, I am protecting my Liberty. As one of our founding fathers so aptly put it:
He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
- Thomas Paine
The price we're paying is for protecting others from oppression. The tyrants here will be held accountable at some point.
The slow kids at the back of the class appear to have missed that simple fact.
The very premise of the thread is absolutely true
The xenophobes call them illegal aliens because -- first -- they are aliens. And -- secondly -- they are not Aryans.
The Grand Wizards consider their skin color and accents a criminal matter as well as a serious societal issue.
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You are wrong and you are blathering stupidly.
They are aliens because they are not U.S. citizens. They come from other lands.
They are here illegally because our LAW says what legal entry is, and when they come in by OTHER means they are breaking our law.
That YOU (being the pathetic fucking moron you are) do not CARE for the law or ascribe racist motivation to some or all of it is not illuminating -- except to underscore that you have silly opinions. Because, whether YOU like a law or not has nothing to do with whether or not it IS the law. And the law in question DOES impose CRIMINAL penalties for the violation thereof. That makes it a "CRIMINAL" Law.
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The very premise of the thread is absolutely true
The xenophobes call them illegal aliens because -- first -- they are aliens. And -- secondly -- they are not Aryans.
The Grand Wizards consider their skin color and accents a criminal matter as well as a serious societal issue.
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You are wrong and you are blathering stupidly.
They are aliens because they are not U.S. citizens. They come from other lands.
They are here illegally because our LAW says what legal entry is, and when they come in by OTHER means they are breaking our law.
That YOU (being the pathetic fucking moron you are) do not CARE for the law or ascribe racist motivation to some or all of it is not illuminating -- except to underscore that you have silly opinions. Because, whether YOU like a law or not has nothing to do with whether or not it IS the law. And the law in question DOES impose CRIMINAL penalties for the violation thereof. That makes it a "CRIMINAL" Law.
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For all the back and forth, the only thing we glean from Liability is that he has the ability to lie. Civil statutes are not crimes. Rather than to argue it back and forth and Google the hell out of it, ask an attorney or law professor if a civil statute is a crime.
They would probably ask you if the defendant in a divorce action was an illegal husband just because he was in the process of getting a divorce. Liability, you deliberately misrepresent the truth. In one article entitled What is the difference between a civil offense and a crime? the author states this:
"Another example of a civil offense is contempt of court. This can arise in any civil matter, but is often used in family law matters. If one parent is ordered to pay child support, but fails to make any attempts to pay their obligation, the other parent can move for contempt sanctions. Sanctions can include awarding the other parent attorney’s fees. In extreme cases, the court can hold the non-paying parent in contempt and order them to remain in jail for a period of time. Even though jail time is a consequence, the difference is that the underlying action arose from a civil or administrative dispute, not from the violation of a criminal statute..."
What Is The Difference Between a Civil Offense and a Crime?
You can cover up the facts with endless posts and you will because you don't want others to see your view, the views of others and then make up their minds. But you notice, the longer this thread goes on, the more your side loses to reason and the more united those who do not share your totalitarian views are becoming.
That which does not kill me makes me stronger. You're wrong and you realize it. Otherwise we could all make a closing post to sum up our points and let the rest of the posters decide. You'd rather clutter the thread up with B.S. posts because you're insecure and scared. It's okay. We understand. But, you're dangerous and you're wrong.
I don't really care about immigrants coming here - except the criminals.
But people just coming here to work or whatever is fine by me.
I don't really care about immigrants coming here - except the criminals.
But people just coming here to work or whatever is fine by me.
That's not the question.
The question is HOW they come here.
Legally or illegally.
And the honest and honorable efforts of those who come here legally are made that much harder because some people can't be bothered or haven't the wherewithall to do things the right way, respecting our nation and its sovereignty. Legal immigrants are a great value to our country and should be welcomed. Instead, they STAND IN LINES, interminable lines, at great expense of money and time. They sometimes even face prejudice and suspicion from stupid people - like some of those on this thread - who can't or won't distinguish between legal and illegal immigration. Illegal aliens haven't the vested interest in really changing their lives, not just sneaking in to make a few bucks, and so may be expected on average to care less about integrating into existing communities and making a good life here rather than a temporary one they do not value in and of itself. This results in great cost (in many ways) to the US economically and socially. Dishonest apologists and idiots like BloodyDolt and StarSpazzzzz only make things worse for everyone. EVERYONE.
If you weren't so prone to insult, you would garner much more consideration for your views, which are often quite insightful.
If you weren't so prone to insult, you would garner much more consideration for your views, which are often quite insightful.
Eh, whatareyougonnado? We all have our crosses to bear.
If you weren't so prone to insult, you would garner much more consideration for your views, which are often quite insightful.
Eh, whatareyougonnado? We all have our crosses to bear.
LOL! True! And I am certainly quick to fire back when fired upon. I'd like to just be above it.
"The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941 .
You utter moron, that case and others like it refer specifically to US citizens travelling on public roads within the country. They were not intended or applied to some fantasy of negating US national sovereignty. They haven't even been successfully cited as negating speed limits or drivers licenses, idiot. You're like some dim-witted little kid playing at things he doesn't understand.
Typical neonazi conservative.
Any "law" which prevents brown skinned individuals from living in the US is good regardless of its Constitutionality.
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Damn, you really are too stupid.
Damn, you really are too racist.
Are you also a KKK imperial wizard
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Eh, whatareyougonnado? We all have our crosses to bear.
LOL! True! And I am certainly quick to fire back when fired upon. I'd like to just be above it.
You can't transcend yourself until you embrace yourself.
Bud,
I appreciate the effort, but you need a better argument. Let me:
Read the thesis written by professor Julian Simon, University of Maryland:
Coming to America: The Benefits of Open Immigration
For centuries, the American culture has been a beacon of hope to the oppressed peoples of collectivist economies and authoritarian or totalitarian governments throughout the world. Why then do the American peopledescendants of immigrants, beneficiaries of open and unregulated immigration, whose culture, economy, government, and way of life are so deeply tied to open bordersexude such a passion against free immigration? Why do they wish so desperately to deny late twentieth-century immigrants the benefits to which their own eighteenth- and nineteenth-century ancestors were privileged? What do Americans have against open borders?
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