Is It Wrong to Think Homosexuality is a Sin?

[rightwinger]

Agreed on all points....although the "bakery" scenario can become complicated, I think there are ways to make everyone happy without trampling all over the rights of private citizens.

The "bakery scenario" is a farce
If it is a strict Christian bakery, its service should restrict service to all sins

Why produce a cake for a known adulterer or pregnant bride?
Both are sinful

Why is the only "sin" under consideration homosexuality?

So, besides wanting to set up an authoritarian Socialist state, you seek to force all religions to conform to your standards? Unsurprising.

It's the private bakery's, boutique, store, shop, etc, choice. There's better ways than dictatorship or force of law such as only giving small business loans and tax breaks to businesses which conform to a specific standard.

I expect religions not to be hypocritical in how they choose to enforce morality

You should go to a church. Another problem is different denominations believe different things within the Christian belief system

He's an atheist and, like many militant atheists, he claims to be an expert on all religions, especially Christianity.

It doesn't take an expert to call out hypocrisy and bigotry

 

[Divine Wind]

Anyone besides me notice that Taz hasn't denied being a truck stop prostitute?

Why should he?

And why is it your business?

A while back, I tried to make peace with you and you responded in much the same way as you are here. You really are a nasty person.


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For the same reason he called Bonzi a slut. Get a fucking clue, Luddie.

 

[Divine Wind]

The "bakery scenario" is a farce
If it is a strict Christian bakery, its service should restrict service to all sins

Why produce a cake for a known adulterer or pregnant bride?
Both are sinful

Why is the only "sin" under consideration homosexuality?

So, besides wanting to set up an authoritarian Socialist state, you seek to force all religions to conform to your standards? Unsurprising.

It's the private bakery's, boutique, store, shop, etc, choice. There's better ways than dictatorship or force of law such as only giving small business loans and tax breaks to businesses which conform to a specific standard.

I expect religions not to be hypocritical in how they choose to enforce morality

You should go to a church. Another problem is different denominations believe different things within the Christian belief system

He's an atheist and, like many militant atheists, he claims to be an expert on all religions, especially Christianity.

It doesn't take an expert to call out hypocrisy and bigotry

No, but it's fascinating when hypocrites and bigots are the ones doing the calling.

 

[Divine Wind]

Agreed on all points....although the "bakery" scenario can become complicated, I think there are ways to make everyone happy without trampling all over the rights of private citizens.

The "bakery scenario" is a farce
If it is a strict Christian bakery, its service should restrict service to all sins

Why produce a cake for a known adulterer or pregnant bride?
Both are sinful

Why is the only "sin" under consideration homosexuality?

So, besides wanting to set up an authoritarian Socialist state, you seek to force all religions to conform to your standards? Unsurprising.

It's the private bakery's, boutique, store, shop, etc, choice. There's better ways than dictatorship or force of law such as only giving small business loans and tax breaks to businesses which conform to a specific standard.

I expect religions not to be hypocritical in how they choose to enforce morality

You should go to a church. Another problem is different denominations believe different things within the Christian belief system

How many Christian churches accept adultry is not a sin

All of them. How many deny membership to repentant sinners regardless of the sin?

 

[hobelim]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

 

[Bonzi]

Agreed on all points....although the "bakery" scenario can become complicated, I think there are ways to make everyone happy without trampling all over the rights of private citizens.

The "bakery scenario" is a farce
If it is a strict Christian bakery, its service should restrict service to all sins

Why produce a cake for a known adulterer or pregnant bride?
Both are sinful

Why is the only "sin" under consideration homosexuality?

So, besides wanting to set up an authoritarian Socialist state, you seek to force all religions to conform to your standards? Unsurprising.

It's the private bakery's, boutique, store, shop, etc, choice. There's better ways than dictatorship or force of law such as only giving small business loans and tax breaks to businesses which conform to a specific standard.

I expect religions not to be hypocritical in how they choose to enforce morality

You should go to a church. Another problem is different denominations believe different things within the Christian belief system

How many Christian churches accept adultry is not a sin

What I mean is what they preach in church is more vast than what you see in the media. Adultery is a frequent topic in church

 

[Divine Wind]

The "bakery scenario" is a farce
If it is a strict Christian bakery, its service should restrict service to all sins

Why produce a cake for a known adulterer or pregnant bride?
Both are sinful

Why is the only "sin" under consideration homosexuality?

So, besides wanting to set up an authoritarian Socialist state, you seek to force all religions to conform to your standards? Unsurprising.

It's the private bakery's, boutique, store, shop, etc, choice. There's better ways than dictatorship or force of law such as only giving small business loans and tax breaks to businesses which conform to a specific standard.

I expect religions not to be hypocritical in how they choose to enforce morality

You should go to a church. Another problem is different denominations believe different things within the Christian belief system

How many Christian churches accept adultry is not a sin

What I mean is what they preach in church is more vast than what you see in the media. Adultery is a frequent topic in church

....because it's a sin. Since gays are only about 2% of the population and straights are about 96.5% of the population, plus humans are 100% of the population ( ) then adultery is obviously a bigger problem than homosexuality.

 

[Divine Wind]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

Agreed. Especially if they are militant atheists who claim to know more about religion than any person who is religious.

 

[hobelim]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

Agreed. Especially if they are militant atheists who claim to know more about religion than any person who is religious.

Militant? give me a break..

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

Agreed. Especially if they are militant atheists who claim to know more about religion than any person who is religious.

Militant? give me a break..

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

I agree that most atheists ARE very knowledgeable about religion.

And as rightwinger pointed out, it does not require the knowledge that @Divine Wind implies he has.

 

[Divine Wind]

....Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

Called it! ROFL

If you're so smart, what is my religion?

 

[hobelim]

So, besides wanting to set up an authoritarian Socialist state, you seek to force all religions to conform to your standards? Unsurprising.

It's the private bakery's, boutique, store, shop, etc, choice. There's better ways than dictatorship or force of law such as only giving small business loans and tax breaks to businesses which conform to a specific standard.

I expect religions not to be hypocritical in how they choose to enforce morality

You should go to a church. Another problem is different denominations believe different things within the Christian belief system

How many Christian churches accept adultry is not a sin

What I mean is what they preach in church is more vast than what you see in the media. Adultery is a frequent topic in church

....because it's a sin. Since gays are only about 2% of the population and straights are about 96.5% of the population, plus humans are 100% of the population ( ) then adultery is obviously a bigger problem than homosexuality.

You like to talk about sin?

Is it a sin, even adulterous, to reject the truth when it comes to light in preference for what has been proven irrefutably to be a lie?

 

[hobelim]

....Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

Called it! ROFL

If you're so smart, what is my religion?

Obstinate stupidity.

 

[Divine Wind]

I agree that most atheists ARE very knowledgeable about religion.

And as rightwinger pointed out, it does not require the knowledge that @Divine Wind implies he has.

Nice twist and attempt at a save, but your buddy already confirmed my post:

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

What knowledge are you claiming I have, other than the proved one about atheists being know-it-alls?

 

[Divine Wind]

....Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

Called it! ROFL

If you're so smart, what is my religion?

Obstinate stupidity.

Translation: You're right, DW.


Now school me in my religion, smart guy. Let's see if you're as smart as you claim.

 

[hobelim]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

Agreed. Especially if they are militant atheists who claim to know more about religion than any person who is religious.

Militant? give me a break..

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

I agree that most atheists ARE very knowledgeable about religion.

And as rightwinger pointed out, it does not require the knowledge that @Divine Wind implies he has.

That special knowledge is a delusion that the measure of a persons faith is determined by their ability to openly profess a belief in the ridiculous with a straight face.

 

[Divine Wind]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

Agreed. Especially if they are militant atheists who claim to know more about religion than any person who is religious.

Militant? give me a break..

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

I agree that most atheists ARE very knowledgeable about religion.

And as rightwinger pointed out, it does not require the knowledge that @Divine Wind implies he has.

That special knowledge is a delusion that the measure of a persons faith is determined by their ability to openly profess a belief in the ridiculous with a straight face.

Translation: DW caught me in a lie since I can't school him on his religion because I don't know what religion he is.

Awesome that you are so comfortable wallowing in what you think you know.

The bottom line here is that, despite what the know-it-alls think or believe, they can't legislate thoughts or people's beliefs. If someone wants to believe adultery, homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, incest and masturbation are sins, that's their choice. If atheists want to believe we should pass laws allowing all of those things, they can try, but most voters will be against them for obvious reasons.

Six in 10 Americans Would Say "Yes" to Muslim President

 

[hobelim]

Awesome that you are so comfortable wallowing in what you think you know.

The bottom line here is that, despite what the know-it-alls think or believe, they can't legislate thoughts or people's beliefs. If someone wants to believe adultery, homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, incest and masturbation are sins, that's their choice. If atheists want to believe we should pass laws allowing all of those things, they can try, but most voters will be against them for obvious reasons.

What are those obvious reasons if not the delusional beliefs that are contradicted by actual reality based on misinterpretations of ancient Jewish children's stories ?


Do you think it matters what religion you are when all religious beliefs devoid of logic, based on faith that requires a person to suspend disbelief, are all just religious flotsam from the confusion and superstitions of your gentile ancestors who knew nothing about Jewish thought, belief, traditional figurative language, or literary techniques and expressions used to educate children?

 

[Bonzi]

"stamp out"?

I'm atheist and have no respect for organized religion but post a link to where I have ever even hinted that I want to "stamp out" religion.

It seems that whenever a point is made that exposes hypocrisy, deception or some other unpleasant fact about religion some prick always accuses you of being a commie trying to stamp it out,, never mind if the point made is the irrefutable truth.

Unscrupulous bastards who do despicable things in the dark always hate the person who turns on the lights....

Agreed. Especially if they are militant atheists who claim to know more about religion than any person who is religious.

Militant? give me a break..

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

I don't know about other religions but we were taught about other religions, so it was not hidden from us. Not that it really matters

 

[ChrisL]

I agree that most atheists ARE very knowledgeable about religion.

And as rightwinger pointed out, it does not require the knowledge that @Divine Wind implies he has.

Nice twist and attempt at a save, but your buddy already confirmed my post:

Most atheists do know more about other peoples religions than believers know about their own.

Believers don't like being schooled because its embarrassing. like a person suddenly realizing that the invisible clothes that they invested everything they had in were a sham and they have been prancing around in public completely naked for decades .

Its a simple as that.

What knowledge are you claiming I have, other than the proved one about atheists being know-it-alls?

How are atheists anymore "know it alls" than the religious folks? Lol!