Is It Wrong to Think Homosexuality is a Sin?

[ding]

Animals don't have marriage. So animals don't have extra and pre marital sex. So humans can't have extra and pre marital sex like animals.

You made several other assertions that you have not addressed.

How does pride occur naturally in nature?
How does greed occur naturally in nature?
How does lust occur naturally in nature?
How does envy occur naturally in nature?
How does gluttony occur naturally in nature?
How does wrath occur naturally in nature?
How does sloth occur naturally in nature?

Are you ever going to address those, lol?

you have never been proud/greedy,etc --any of those?
if you say no--you are a LIAR
it's natural for humans to do all of those ''sins''
again EVERYONE sins---gee do you ever wonder why???!!!--it's natural

--now--out of ALL the people who should know NOT to sin, the priests sin by sexual molestation
---and don't say ''it's just a few''--because it is not

Jim Bakker
here's a big one:
sinless, god loving, Jimmy Swaggart tells Jim Bakker he's a SINNER for having a SEXual affair

a cancer on the body of Christ,''

but then Swaggart goes to prostitutes for SEX !!!
Swaggart Says He Has Sinned; Will Step Down
HYPOCRITES--you are ALL HYPOCRITES
humans have extramarital sex all the time
Bill Clinton
Arni Schwarzene
Hugh Grant
JFK
etc etc to infinity ......
this is one of the most natural acts---you CAN"T deny it

No. It is not natural to sin. It is natural to be virtuous.

If it were natural to sin, then no one would rationalize that they didn't.

it is natural to ''sin''

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

 

[Michelle420]

I thought extramarital sex was a sin??
I thought pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth were sins??these are all NATURAL--humans do these naturally

Why do you say we do these things naturally? How do you define and measure that exactly?

sex is not a natural ''act''/trait/etc???!!!....most of the animals even do it

You said extramarital sex though, right? What do animals have to do with that?

??? you don't know???
sex is a ''necessity''...humans AND animals have to do it to keep the species going
humans and animals do it = natural

Animals don't get married. So how can animals have extramarital sex?

How does pride occur naturally in nature?
How does greed occur naturally in nature?
How does lust occur naturally in nature?
How does envy occur naturally in nature?
How does gluttony occur naturally in nature?
How does wrath occur naturally in nature?
How does sloth occur naturally in nature?

 

[harmonica]

you have never been proud/greedy,etc --any of those?
if you say no--you are a LIAR
it's natural for humans to do all of those ''sins''
again EVERYONE sins---gee do you ever wonder why???!!!--it's natural

--now--out of ALL the people who should know NOT to sin, the priests sin by sexual molestation
---and don't say ''it's just a few''--because it is not

Jim Bakker
here's a big one:
sinless, god loving, Jimmy Swaggart tells Jim Bakker he's a SINNER for having a SEXual affair
but then Swaggart goes to prostitutes for SEX !!!
Swaggart Says He Has Sinned; Will Step Down
HYPOCRITES--you are ALL HYPOCRITES
humans have extramarital sex all the time
Bill Clinton
Arni Schwarzene
Hugh Grant
JFK
etc etc to infinity ......
this is one of the most natural acts---you CAN"T deny it

No. It is not natural to sin. It is natural to be virtuous.

If it were natural to sin, then no one would rationalize that they didn't.

it is natural to ''sin''

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

imperfect--meaning we are not perfect
we were created/whatever as imperfect = we can't help it
we were created to be faulty --we can't help being faulty/wrong/sinning
im·per·fect
imˈpərfəkt/
adjective

1. 1.
   not perfect; faulty or incomplete.

 

[harmonica]

you have never been proud/greedy,etc --any of those?
if you say no--you are a LIAR
it's natural for humans to do all of those ''sins''
again EVERYONE sins---gee do you ever wonder why???!!!--it's natural

--now--out of ALL the people who should know NOT to sin, the priests sin by sexual molestation
---and don't say ''it's just a few''--because it is not

Jim Bakker
here's a big one:
sinless, god loving, Jimmy Swaggart tells Jim Bakker he's a SINNER for having a SEXual affair
but then Swaggart goes to prostitutes for SEX !!!
Swaggart Says He Has Sinned; Will Step Down
HYPOCRITES--you are ALL HYPOCRITES
humans have extramarital sex all the time
Bill Clinton
Arni Schwarzene
Hugh Grant
JFK
etc etc to infinity ......
this is one of the most natural acts---you CAN"T deny it

No. It is not natural to sin. It is natural to be virtuous.

If it were natural to sin, then no one would rationalize that they didn't.

it is natural to ''sin''

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

 

[ding]

No. It is not natural to sin. It is natural to be virtuous.

If it were natural to sin, then no one would rationalize that they didn't.

it is natural to ''sin''

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

 

[harmonica]

it is natural to ''sin''

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

 

[ding]

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

No Freudian slip at all. We are imperfect. That is why we are being tested, to purify us.

We are all being pruned. Even you.

 

[ding]

No. It is a choice to sin.

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

When you were first created ~14 billion years ago, you were perfect. We all were.

 

[harmonica]

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

No Freudian slip at all. We are imperfect. That is why we are being tested, to purify us.

We are all being pruned. Even you.

I don't sin --ok imperfect -slip
so he makes us imperfect and is testing us?? why??

 

[ding]

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

No Freudian slip at all. We are imperfect. That is why we are being tested, to purify us.

We are all being pruned. Even you.

I don't sin --ok imperfect -slip
so he makes us imperfect and is testing us?? why??

No. He made us perfect ~14 billion years ago.

 

[harmonica]

if that is true--why does every one sin??
why do you sin? please answer--I'm waiting for a good one

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

When you were first created ~14 billion years ago, you were perfect. We all were.

yes, I've heard this before
blah blah blah

 

[ding]

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

When you were first created ~14 billion years ago, you were perfect. We all were.

yes, I've heard this before
blah blah blah

It's true.

"Did you know that the matter in your body is billions of years old?

According to most astrophysicists, all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago."

Origins: CERN: Ideas: The Big Bang | Exploratorium

 

[ding]

And another piece of the puzzle falls into place.

What they intended for evil, God is using for good.

 

[ding]

Because we are imperfect.

But we don't do it all the time. It is the exception and not the rule.

Sort of like homosexuality in that regard.

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

No Freudian slip at all. We are imperfect. That is why we are being tested, to purify us.

We are all being pruned. Even you.

I don't sin --ok imperfect -slip
so he makes us imperfect and is testing us?? why??

To purify us. To make us perfect again. Just as we were when he created us.

 

[harmonica]

you are exactly right !! we are created to fail

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

No Freudian slip at all. We are imperfect. That is why we are being tested, to purify us.

We are all being pruned. Even you.

I don't sin --ok imperfect -slip
so he makes us imperfect and is testing us?? why??

To purify us. To make us perfect again. Just as we were when he created us.

boy --we are sinful/evil/terrible--if we have to be purified
well--I don't need to be ...I'm fine
if you think you need to be--fine

 

[ding]

Not exactly. We are being tested. And for the most part we pass.

If it were as you say, we would sin all the time.

no -no -no --you just said we are imperfect!! --that means we can't help being imperfect/failing/etc
Freudian slip

No Freudian slip at all. We are imperfect. That is why we are being tested, to purify us.

We are all being pruned. Even you.

I don't sin --ok imperfect -slip
so he makes us imperfect and is testing us?? why??

To purify us. To make us perfect again. Just as we were when he created us.

boy --we are sinful/evil/terrible--if we have to be purified
well--I don't need to be ...I'm fine
if you think you need to be--fine

But you are being purified/pruned. We all are. You just don't realize it is happening to you, but it is. You don't really have a choice in taking the test. Just in learning the lessons.

 

[there4eyeM]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

 

[harmonica]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

..to me, humans are imperfect
..we murder for any number of reasons--nonsensical reasons
..humans do the most nonsensical things--one of them is committing suicide along with murdering wives/children
..they do things like jumping from cliffs/buildings/etc--that sometimes result in death
..most airplane crashes are human error
..we know we are imperfect
...and we have wars--that kill millions/destroy/etc--!!!! ''god creates'' humans that kill millions of other humans ??!!

no--we are imperfect and god creating us as ''perfect''' makes no reasonable sense
..

 

[ding]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

Being perfect does not mean doing perfect things. It means BEING perfect. Many a saint have pondered what this means.

What do you think "being" means?

 

[ding]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

..to me, humans are imperfect
..we murder for any number of reasons--nonsensical reasons
..humans do the most nonsensical things--one of them is committing suicide along with murdering wives/children
..they do things like jumping from cliffs/buildings/etc--that sometimes result in death
..most airplane crashes are human error
..we know we are imperfect
...and we have wars--that kill millions/destroy/etc--!!!! ''god creates'' humans that kill millions of other humans ??!!

no--we are imperfect and god creating us as ''perfect''' makes no reasonable sense
..

The moral law is what we ought to do, not what we do do.

Why would you think that unless everything were perfect there could be no God?