WillowTree
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Tell me one hospital where an overnight stay is $200.
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Here ya go.Tell me!Do you know how the Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplement system works?After you have all paid into it for 30 years you shall have it. Oh. But you want yours without the hassle of actually paying for it right?It's very popular with seniors. These two health programs more popular than ACA
And it allows for dynamic free market competition in the form of Medicare Supplements, Medicare Advantage Plans and Prescription Drug Plans.
Which is why we should all have it.
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Maybe you're one of those people who's happy paying higher premiums, co-pays and co-insurance to pay for those who can't afford health insurance, including those whose costs are much higher because they didn't have access to preventive and diagnostic services.
That's up to you, but I don't think it's very smart economics.
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I was right.
That’s the thing, it seems sufficiently ambiguous a term that people tend to give their own definition to it. I had seen some pundit on TV accusing Democrats of being marxists because their policies vaguely aligned with the Marx quote, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”, so I figured it was the idea of ‘wealth redistribution’ that people latch on to. In fact I think quotes from Marx or his disciples are often used as evidence. Any quote (whether real or fake) from Marx or any communist/socialist that relates to some kind of policy, seems to be sufficient to brand that policy as “Marxist”. A quick read on wikipedia’s article on Marxism, in the introduction they have a [sourced] reference stating, “there is now no single definitive Marxist theory”; which I suppose adds to the ambiguity of the interpretation. There are the “10 planks” as an earlier poster mentioned, but those don’t mention healthcare.Gotta define marxist
To begin, I believe it’s worth noting that “redistributive” government “programs” such as ‘poor laws’ and public education (or even Roman ‘bread and circuses’) predate Karl Marx. But it seems that since Karl Marx’s writings about government/workers seizing control off all private enterprise, a lot of people have equated any redistributive government intervention in social issues as “Marxist”. Now what I’m curious about, is how prevalent this view is amongst people, or if perhaps they draw some kind of philosophical line between what kind of government “program” is Marxist, and what isn’t. So I figured a way to test my curiosity would be to run a poll using the classic government program of Medicare.
Sources I've read assert that on average people draw between 3 and 4.4 times as much value out of the program as they put in. Source:
Did You Really Pay For Your Medicare Benefits?
I think it counts as redistributive in that the gap must be filled somewhere (whether by taxing some people more, or by our grandkids paying the debts). So my poll question is simple really: in your opinion, is Medicare a Marxist program?
So all those states that had poor farms and homes for the aged were communistic? So it looks like George Washington allowed states to do that, and therefore old George was a communist.Yes. All social programs are commie.
FDR and Woodrow Wilson were both commies.
That's why I just put Bootney on ignore: a maroon.So all those states that had poor farms and homes for the aged were communistic? So it looks like George Washington allowed states to do that, and therefore old George was a communist.Yes. All social programs are commie.
FDR and Woodrow Wilson were both commies.