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Haha you just can't admit to your thread fail. We all know what you were looking for when you created this thread.
Much like unions, affirmative action has outlived it's usefulness. Both are now a drain on society.
Well, AA sure isn't working for Black folks. Have you seen the high black unemployment statistics lately? If AA is causing is a drain on society it must be caused by some other group!
I see more blacks in management positions, more black doctors and lawyers, more blacks in sports with positions of responsibility, more black politicians....even a black President
The groundwork was laid by Affirmative Action
Anyone who has a wife or daughter can thank affirmative action
Read a highschool yearbook from the 50s or 60s and see what girls listed as their future plans. The smart ones wanted to be a nurse or teacher. Others would list beautician or cashier. If you went into business you listed secretary. Most just put housewife
That was what used to be the opportunities for women before Affirmative Action
You can stick with that interpretation if you like.
Women were not necessarily excluded from the workplace.
Women and men had certain roles they fulfilled.
Men were expected to find a woman, marry her, buy her a home, raise children, go to work and provide for his wife and family. Women were expected to raise the children, keep the house and serve their husbands.
it had little to do with discrimination. This was our culture. A culture that has evolved.
Nice try at attempting to include women as minority group.
That dog will not hunt.
Anyone on this board have a daughter?
Is she involved in sports? If she is, you can thank Title 9 which opened up equal access for womens sports
Before Title 9, Girls sports were Field Hockey, Basketball and Softball.....mostly Cheerleading
Any young girl today has a dozen or more sports available to her plus equipment and facilities
Title IX is a fail! Instead of providing women with athletic opportunities in and of itself, the remedy was to reduce athletic opportunities for men.
It is this and most other liberal policies that had the best of intentions. To lift those perceived to be disadvantaged.
The unintended consequences are when these polices such as title IX are implemented at the expense of others.
Title IX has created more problems than it has solved.
Some of the actions implemented since Title IX became law are illogical.
Sureeee
Hard work has nothing to do with their success.
Good to see your plans as democrats is to further divide the nation with bullshit like this.
I can see it now...republicans hate women because affirmative action is for them too.
Women before Affirmative Action worked hard. But they were told that they should be happy with that Secretarys job because they didn't have what it takes to be managers. Women were best suited for nursing jobs but those slots in Med School were reserved for men.
Another sexist asshole who thinks women who raised a family, cared for a home, etc were somehow useless.
I can see it now. You walking up to my Mom and spewing your rhetoric. She'd first tell you off then if you opened your mouth, beat the living shit out of you.
Haven't read the whole thread. Did anyone say they were helped by Affirmative Action?
Or, your competitor gave a better presentation and was a better salesman. Just like whites are tired of blacks crying wolf...im tired of whites crying AA everytime they fail. LOL, white man faila, blame the black man instead of taking responsibility. Pull up your boot straps and try harder. Quit pointing your finger and blaming society for your failure to get a contract. Look at yourself and where YOU failed in not getting this contract. Its not the black man's fault, its not Obama's fault, its not Bush's fault, its not the GOP or the Donkey party's fault...it is your fault
Someone please point me in the direction where I can benefit from AA...i haven't seen or experienced, but I'll take advantage of it just to balance everytime I have been passed over for a promotion or job because of my skin color. PLease, show me where I can take the job you have and more than likely got because of white privilege.
I love the way that some people call other people liars because they don't like their personal story on a thread that is supposed to be about personal stories.
LOL....your the one who had multiple examples of how the bad black man has an advantage over you, right? Same message to you, pull up your bootstraps, try harder and quit blaming everyone else for your failure.
What years did you serve in the military? (and thanks for your service)
Haven't read the whole thread. Did anyone say they were helped by Affirmative Action?
Haven't read the whole thread. Did anyone say they were helped by Affirmative Action?
Steve Martin, I think.
haven't read the whole thread. Did anyone say they were helped by affirmative action?
yes, we all agree that you were
Yes and women moving into management positions reduced opportunities for white males.
Yes and women moving into management positions reduced opportunities for white males.
This is your ignorance in action. When women or anyone moves into management of their own merit, it grows the economy, which means that no one is harmed, more jobs are created. When a less qualified candidate gets the job, the economy grows less and there is in fact fewer jobs are created.
The best way to grow women (or blacks, ...) in management is to do nothing. The companies that don't hire the best candidates for those reasons suffer in the marketplace against the companies that don't discriminate. The marketplace is self correcting. Only government can manipulate the marketplace and turn losers into winners.
That is the beauty of free markets, they fix all these problems. The problem you authoritarian leftists have is that you have to control.
This is your ignorance in action. When women or anyone moves into management of their own merit, it grows the economy, which means that no one is harmed, more jobs are created. When a less qualified candidate gets the job, the economy grows less and there is in fact fewer jobs are created.
The best way to grow women (or blacks, ...) in management is to do nothing. The companies that don't hire the best candidates for those reasons suffer in the marketplace against the companies that don't discriminate. The marketplace is self correcting. Only government can manipulate the marketplace and turn losers into winners.
That is the beauty of free markets, they fix all these problems. The problem you authoritarian leftists have is that you have to control.
Motherhood and Apple Pie
Democrats had decades to improve opportunities for blacks and women. Instead, they gave them welfare and food stamps
Fixed that for ya, free of charge.
Yes and women moving into management positions reduced opportunities for white males.
This is your ignorance in action. When women or anyone moves into management of their own merit, it grows the economy, which means that no one is harmed, more jobs are created. When a less qualified candidate gets the job, the economy grows less and there is in fact fewer jobs are created.
The best way to grow women (or blacks, ...) in management is to do nothing. The companies that don't hire the best candidates for those reasons suffer in the marketplace against the companies that don't discriminate. The marketplace is self correcting. Only government can manipulate the marketplace and turn losers into winners.
That is the beauty of free markets, they fix all these problems. The problem you authoritarian leftists have is that you have to control.
Motherhood and Apple Pie
Companies had decades to improve opportunities for blacks and women. Instead, they gave them menial and secretarial jobs
This is your ignorance in action. When women or anyone moves into management of their own merit, it grows the economy, which means that no one is harmed, more jobs are created. When a less qualified candidate gets the job, the economy grows less and there is in fact fewer jobs are created.
The best way to grow women (or blacks, ...) in management is to do nothing. The companies that don't hire the best candidates for those reasons suffer in the marketplace against the companies that don't discriminate. The marketplace is self correcting. Only government can manipulate the marketplace and turn losers into winners.
That is the beauty of free markets, they fix all these problems. The problem you authoritarian leftists have is that you have to control.
Motherhood and Apple Pie
Companies had decades to improve opportunities for blacks and women. Instead, they gave them menial and secretarial jobs
You've got a sweeping generalization and that justifies totalitarian government solutions. There you go.
In my business, the majority of my direct reports are women. They don't need your handouts. They are in those roles because they are good at it.
Motherhood and Apple Pie
Companies had decades to improve opportunities for blacks and women. Instead, they gave them menial and secretarial jobs
You've got a sweeping generalization and that justifies totalitarian government solutions. There you go.
In my business, the majority of my direct reports are women. They don't need your handouts. They are in those roles because they are good at it.
You want to refute me? Do so with facts
Show the percentage of blacks and women in management and executive positions before and after Affirmative Action
Then apologize to everyone on the board
You've got a sweeping generalization and that justifies totalitarian government solutions. There you go.
In my business, the majority of my direct reports are women. They don't need your handouts. They are in those roles because they are good at it.
You want to refute me? Do so with facts
Show the percentage of blacks and women in management and executive positions before and after Affirmative Action
Then apologize to everyone on the board
Gotcha,
1) It's not your job to prove your assertion, it's mine to prove you wrong.
2) The standard of my proof is that I must prove you wrong without violating the inherent truth of liberalism.
3) If I don't convince you wrong without violating the inherent truth of liberalism, then you get the totalitarian government that you want that makes our choices for us and enforces those choices with guns.
I'm actually an MBA who spent my career in management and management consulting and I now run my own business, you spent a career as a bottom rung paycheck to paycheck employee. And with your wealth of knowledge on the subject, you know that the liberal lawyers you are parroting are correct about economics and you're lecturing me to stop being so stupid and accept what they told you as well.
You're a good laugh (at), but that's about it. Unfortunately, your vote counts as much as people who do know what they are talking about.
You want to refute me? Do so with facts
Show the percentage of blacks and women in management and executive positions before and after Affirmative Action
Then apologize to everyone on the board
Gotcha,
1) It's not your job to prove your assertion, it's mine to prove you wrong.
2) The standard of my proof is that I must prove you wrong without violating the inherent truth of liberalism.
3) If I don't convince you wrong without violating the inherent truth of liberalism, then you get the totalitarian government that you want that makes our choices for us and enforces those choices with guns.
I'm actually an MBA who spent my career in management and management consulting and I now run my own business, you spent a career as a bottom rung paycheck to paycheck employee. And with your wealth of knowledge on the subject, you know that the liberal lawyers you are parroting are correct about economics and you're lecturing me to stop being so stupid and accept what they told you as well.
You're a good laugh (at), but that's about it. Unfortunately, your vote counts as much as people who do know what they are talking about.
MBA? I'm impressed
I'm a French Model
A legitimate MBA would understand the changing dynamics of our workplace and the role Affirmative Action played in opening the workplace to women and minorities
