Israel-Hamas war would 'probably already been over' if Trump were president, Sen. Tom Cotton says

[BlindBoo]

There was an out since the Taliban wasn't living up to their end of the deal.

Meaning redeployment of thousands of fresh troops. How many US lives were you willing to sacrifice for Biden to fix all of Benedict Donald's fuck ups? The Taliban wasn't living up to there end of the Doha Accords as early as March of 2020, but Benedict still withdrew over 10 thousand troops, abandoned 5 military bases, and released 5,000 Taliban fighters. No way to fix that unless you're willing to sacrifice hundreds if not a few thousand US soldiers.

 

[bendog]

Trump's Abraham Accords guaranteed a legitimate act of Palestinian self-defense like October 7th was inevitable:

It’s Time to Scrap the Abraham Accords

"But the real premise of the Accords was proving that the Palestinian issue was no longer an obstacle for Israel’s relationships in the region, as Arab states dropped their demand for a Palestinian state as a condition to normalizing ties with Israel.

"The pact promised regional security despite allowing Israel to bypass the rights of 6 million Palestinians living under daily brutality, military occupation, and apartheid rule to establish alliances with authoritarian regional regimes."

Yeah, the whole point of the Abraham Accords was to freeze out the Pales because THEY'VE NEVER ACCEPTED A PEACE OFFER THAT INCLUDES ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST IN PEACE. MbS publically said though that the Saudis could not reach a peace agreement and full cooperation with Israel unless there was a pale state.

MBS says Palestinians ‘the central issue’ for Arabs, as US pushes Israel-Saudi peace

Saudi crown prince stresses backing for Palestinian state amid intensified US effort to secure normalization; Egypt's Sissi, who mediated Gaza ceasefire, slams Israeli 'escalation'

www.timesofisrael.com

And Hamas proceeded to kill 1200 in a terrorist attack.

And Biden's response was to give Israel enough 2000 lb bombs to level the entirety of Gaza

 

[struth]

Meaning redeployment of thousands of fresh troops. How many US lives were you willing to sacrifice for Biden to fix all of Benedict Donald's fuck ups? The Taliban wasn't living up to there end of the Doha Accords as early as March of 2020, but Benedict still withdrew over 10 thousand troops, abandoned 5 military bases, and released 5,000 Taliban fighters. No way to fix that unless you're willing to sacrifice hundreds if not a few thousand US soldiers.

Geez man, we saw the testimony, Xiden is lying, the Generals contridicted him. They only wanted 2500 troops.

 

[bendog]

Geez man, we saw the testimony, Xiden is lying, the Generals contridicted him. They only wanted 2500 troops.

you're like a child at football game. Trump invited the fucking Taliban to Camp David. But Obama should have pulled the plug on that Bush war too.

 

[struth]

you're like a child at football game. Trump invited the fucking Taliban to Camp David. But Obama should have pulled the plug on that Bush war too.

Yes, nobody is disputing that Trump was working towards peace in Afghan between the Govt and the Taliban....

Obama and Xiden called Afghan the war of necessity, They literally campaigned on fighting

 

[BlindBoo]

Geez man, we saw the testimony, Xiden is lying, the Generals contridicted him. They only wanted 2500 troops.

They testified that 2,500 troops was an unsustainable number because they would come under attack when the truce ended, requiring reinforcements. Furthermore, they were supporting the Afghan Army, not correcting all the issues resulting from the Taliban's conditions that Benedict Donald allowed them to ignore. Certainly not enough to force the concessions they made in 2020 when they signed the Doha Accords, like you stupidly suggested Biden could have done. That would have been like a new invasion. Joe made the right choice by getting us out of that forever war.

 

[struth]

They testified that 2,500 troops was an unsustainable number because they would come under attack when the truce ended, requiring reinforcements. Furthermore, they were supporting the Afghan Army, not correcting all the issues resulting from the Taliban's conditions that Benedict Donald allowed them to ignore. Certainly not enough to force the concessions they made in 2020 when they signed the Doha Accords, like you stupidly suggested Biden could have done. That would have been like a new invasion. Joe made the right choice by getting us out of that forever war.

They testified that they told the President to keep 2500 people there. Xiden lied and said they told him to surrender, Xiden lied, people died...

 

[BlindBoo]

They testified that they told the President to keep 2500 people there. Xiden lied and said they told him to surrender, Xiden lied, people died...

In our liberal democracy, the military follows the orders of the CiC, they do not tell him what to do. Nor did they testify that they told him what to do. They also told him that they would have to reinforce that number after the truce ended and those soldiers came under fire. They certainly testified that Benedict Donald allowed the Taliban to ignore 6 out of 7 conditions of the Doha Accords while forcing our generals to comply with all 8 of ours. Why did he do that?

 

[struth]

In our liberal democracy, the military follows the orders of the CiC, they do not tell him what to do. Nor did they testify that they told him what to do. They also told him that they would have to reinforce that number after the truce ended and those soldiers came under fire. They certainly testified that Benedict Donald allowed the Taliban to ignore 6 out of 7 conditions of the Doha Accords while forcing our generals to comply with all 8 of ours. Why did he do that?

Of course, that's why we surrendered, because Xiden wanted to. I never argued otherwise, you seem to be making a lot of excuses for it....but I never said the military shouldn't of followed Xiden's order

 

[JoeB131]

yes, Trump and the Afgan Govt worked with the Taliban...not sure your point, we were working towards peace....Xiden inherited a path towards it, and ignored it and surrendered.

Are you fucking retarded?
This would be like Chamberlain saying that he had a path to peace after the Munich Conference, and then Churchill fucked it all up by going to war!

 

[struth]

Are you fucking retarded?
This would be like Chamberlain saying that he had a path to peace after the Munich Conference, and then Churchill fucked it all up by going to war!

um Xiden didn't go to war, he surrendered, like Chamberlain.

 

[BlindBoo]

Of course, that's why we surrendered, because Xiden wanted to. I never argued otherwise, you seem to be making a lot of excuses for it....but I never said the military shouldn't of followed Xiden's order

So what did Benedict Donald mean when he said "I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process."?

 

[struth]

So what did Benedict Donald mean when he said "I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process."?

He met he started the process, what don't you get? What he didn't know, because he was a private citizen, at the time, was that the Taliban had failed to live up to the agreement. Xiden knew that, he knew that when his generals told him. Xiden didn't care....Xiden ignored the agreement and surrenderd. He literally told us all that..

Biden: I would have sought Afghanistan withdrawal even without Trump’s Taliban deal

The president’s acknowledgment comes after he has argued his hands were tied by the previous administration’s agreement.

www.politico.com

Xiden, ignored the agreement, Xiden's plan all along was to surrender to the Taliban.

 

[BlindBoo]

um Xiden didn't go to war, he surrendered, like Chamberlain.

Benedict Donald surrendered by not enforcing the Conditions on the Taliban of his conditional withdrawal. By the time Biden took office, enforcing those conditions would have required going back to war. Nothing like Chamberlain's appeasement in giving away the Sudetenland to the Nazis.

 

[BlindBoo]

He met he started the process, what don't you get? What he didn't know, because he was a private citizen, at the time, was that the Taliban had failed to live up to the agreement. Xiden knew that, he knew that when his generals told him. Xiden didn't care....Xiden ignored the agreement and surrenderd. He literally told us all that..

Biden: I would have sought Afghanistan withdrawal even without Trump’s Taliban deal

The president’s acknowledgment comes after he has argued his hands were tied by the previous administration’s agreement.

www.politico.com

Xiden, ignored the agreement, Xiden's plan all along was to surrender to the Taliban.

The withdrawals, the abandoning of 5 of our bases, and the returning 5,000 Taliban fighters Benedict Donald forced on the US military was not ignored by Biden, nor was the fact that most all of the conditions on the Taliban were ignored. I'm sure they were all factors in the decision to end our involvement rather than sacrifice more lives to continue the occupation.

 

[struth]

Benedict Donald surrendered by not enforcing the Conditions on the Taliban of his conditional withdrawal. By the time Biden took office, enforcing those conditions would have required going back to war. Nothing like Chamberlain's appeasement in giving away the Sudetenland to the Nazis.

what the f are you talking about? When Trump left office we had 2500 solders, and over 18K civilian contractors still in Afghan, not to mention a base.


You continue to make excuses for Xiden's surrender...it's pathetic how you dembots can't even be objective

 

[struth]

The withdrawals, the abandoning of 5 of our bases, and the returning 5,000 Taliban fighters Benedict Donald forced on the US military was not ignored by Biden, nor was the fact that most all of the conditions on the Taliban were ignored. I'm sure they were all factors in the decision to end our involvement rather than sacrifice more lives to continue the occupation.

I literally provided a link to Xiden saying he ignored the agreement, he didn't care about it.

Xiden surrendered because he wanted to surrender

 

[BlindBoo]

I literally provided a link to Xiden saying he ignored the agreement, he didn't care about it.

Xiden surrendered because he wanted to surrender

He campaigned on ending it. He used what was left of the agreement, the truce, and completed what was left of our commitment, removing the 20% of our troops left behind by Benedict Donald. The Neo-GOP are superbly conditioned to ignore what Benedict Donald did to Afghanistan in 2020, and blame the results of what he did on Biden.

 

[Richard-H]

The Art of the Deal - Yes, Trump wrote a book. Also Trump loves to make a deal. Not to be confused with Monty Hall, Trump loves to make real deals.
Combine this with the fact that Trump would have provided Israel with the weapons they needed to finish this skirmish. Some are saying the skirmish would have been over with LESS civilian killing. That is a Win Win for both sides. I am sure the Palestinians caught in the cross-fire would agree as well. Probably no protests on summer campuses all across the USA as well. Also, no need for an impeachment (like Joe is going to receive). What do you think. Would Trump would have done a superior job at managing this skirmish.

"President Trump said just last night that he would absolutely provide Israel with the weapons they need to finish the job," Cotton said. "This would have never happened on President Trump. Trump's watch. It didn't happen on his watch. And if he were president, this war would have probably already been over with much less civilian suffering in Gaza because he would have backed Israel to the hilt from the beginning."

Israel-Hamas war would 'probably already been over' if Trump were president, Sen. Tom Cotton says

The Republican senator from Arkansas says the Israel-Hamas war "would have never happened" under President Trump during a "Face the Nation" interview Sunday.

www.yahoo.com

Trump also said that Mexico would pay for his wall.

How'd that go?

Trump can say anything, but in the end he's just blowing hot air.

 

[struth]

He campaigned on ending it. He used what was left of the agreement, the truce, and completed what was left of our commitment, removing the 20% of our troops left behind by Benedict Donald. The Neo-GOP are superbly conditioned to ignore what Benedict Donald did to Afghanistan in 2020, and blame the results of what he did on Biden.

you keep saying things, but I literally quoted Xiden saying he ignored it. He didn't care about the agreement. He was planning on surrendering to the Taliban.