It really bugs me the rightwing thinks Americans are "exceptional"

[Mr Natural]

American Exceptionalism sounds a lot like that "Master Race" crap Hitler was peddling back in the '30s.

 

[Andylusion]

Liberalism is what has dumbed down America.

Don't kid yourself, Brotch.

Foreigners today look to America for the riches that Liberals offer. Free everything just for the taking.

Tea baggers aren't selfish arrogant or racist. just because Liberal nut cases such as yourself declare it so...

America is for people who love freedom and democracy and who are willing to work and sacrifice for said same.

Not for people who wish to languish at the Liberal's teat.

Or Obama's cock.

Liberalism is what invented America.

Fixed it for ya bruh.

No actually America had to become strong before liberalism started to destroy it.

Liberalism created America; that's the fact.

OK, OK, that's not quite accurate, I know. It's intentionally colloquialized. Lemme fix it so it's technically correct:
Liberalism created the United States of America. The rest of the two continents, their mileage may vary.

The founding fathers were against high taxes and a nanny state. Liberalism cannot exist without the two.

Liberalism is what this nation is founded upon. If you don't like it then get the fuck out.

If by liberalism, you mean people being free to earn a living, pursue their own happiness, and to grow and conduct business as they see fit...

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality under the law.

Then I agree.

If you mean liberalism, as in the modern incarnation, in which government controls every aspect of ones life, such as what light bulb they use, or how big a drink they can buy, whether they can engage in business, and how much of their business is controlled or confiscated by government, and specific groups are treated with preference or penalty under the law, dependent on their race or success in life....

Then no, you are wrong.

 

[peach174]

Liberalism is what has dumbed down America.

Don't kid yourself, Brotch.

Foreigners today look to America for the riches that Liberals offer. Free everything just for the taking.

Tea baggers aren't selfish arrogant or racist. just because Liberal nut cases such as yourself declare it so...

America is for people who love freedom and democracy and who are willing to work and sacrifice for said same.

Not for people who wish to languish at the Liberals teat.

Or Obama's cock.

Liberalism is what invented America.

Fixed it for ya bruh.

No actually America had to become strong before liberalism started to destroy it.

Liberalism created America; that's the fact.

OK, OK, that's not quite accurate, I know. It's intentionally colloquialized. Lemme fix it so it's technically correct:
Liberalism created the United States of America. The rest of the two continents, their mileage may vary.

what created America Pogo was a whole bunch of Colonists who had enough of the British treating them like shit......and that included the very conservative to the most liberal of them...remember John Hancock and John Adams were not on board with Sam Adams and Co. in the beginning......

The entire idea of governing derived from The People, as opposed to the subserviance under the Church/Nobility/Royalty that had held sway before then, indeed the very root idea that "all men are created equal" (even if that had to be refined in practice) --- is the very essence of Liberalism. It's literally the stuff we're made of.

Too bad that the Liberals of today has turned that into special groups that must be treated differently.

 

[jknowgood]

Liberalism is what has dumbed down America.

Don't kid yourself, Brotch.

Foreigners today look to America for the riches that Liberals offer. Free everything just for the taking.

Tea baggers aren't selfish arrogant or racist. just because Liberal nut cases such as yourself declare it so...

America is for people who love freedom and democracy and who are willing to work and sacrifice for said same.

Not for people who wish to languish at the Liberal's teat.

Or Obama's cock.

Liberalism is what invented America.

Fixed it for ya bruh.

No actually America had to become strong before liberalism started to destroy it.

Liberalism created America; that's the fact.

OK, OK, that's not quite accurate, I know. It's intentionally colloquialized. Lemme fix it so it's technically correct:
Liberalism created the United States of America. The rest of the two continents, their mileage may vary.

The founding fathers were against high taxes and a nanny state. Liberalism cannot exist without the two.

Liberalism is what this nation is founded upon. If you don't like it then get the fuck out.

The founding fathers were against high taxes and the nanny state without the two liberalism cannot exist.

 

[Little-Acorn]

the very root idea that "all men are created equal" (even if that had to be refined in practice) --- is the very essence of Liberalism. It's literally the stuff we're made of.

And by God, you're going to keep them equal, no matter how hard some of them try to be exceptional instead.

Am I? How?

(patiently)

You, plural. As your own statement was.

Liberals.

Are aiming to keep them equal. While preventing anyone who tries to excel from achieving his goal, by punishing him and taking away what he achieved.

It's literally the stuff you're made of.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Liberalism is what invented America.

Fixed it for ya bruh.

No actually America had to become strong before liberalism started to destroy it.

Liberalism created America; that's the fact.

OK, OK, that's not quite accurate, I know. It's intentionally colloquialized. Lemme fix it so it's technically correct:
Liberalism created the United States of America. The rest of the two continents, their mileage may vary.

The founding fathers were against high taxes and a nanny state. Liberalism cannot exist without the two.

Liberalism is what this nation is founded upon. If you don't like it then get the fuck out.

If by liberalism, you mean people being free to earn a living, pursue their own happiness, and to grow and conduct business as they see fit...

Liberalism is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality under the law.

Then I agree.

If you mean liberalism, as in the modern incarnation, in which government controls every aspect of ones life, such as what light bulb they use, or how big a drink they can buy, whether they can engage in business, and how much of their business is controlled or confiscated by government, and specific groups are treated with preference or penalty under the law, dependent on their race or success in life....

Then no, you are wrong.

This:

" ... in which government controls every aspect of ones life, such as what light bulb they use, or how big a drink they can buy, whether they can engage in business, and how much of their business is controlled or confiscated by government, and specific groups are treated with preference or penalty under the law, dependent on their race or success in life...."

Not Liberalism, then or now.

 

[Flash]

American Exceptionalism sounds a lot like that "Master Race" crap Hitler was peddling back in the '30s.

Do you really believe that shit?

There is no "race" component to understanding that the concept of letting people be free will produce superior results. It applies to all races.

I think Hong Kong is exceptional since they have the freest economic system in the world.

The Moon Bats don't like this concept because they don't want Americans to be free. They want the government to control the lives of every individual and they don't like the idea that people will succeed (and become exceptional) without the government wiping their asses for them.

They don't like the things that have in the past made Americans exceptional like personal responsibility. However, they can feel good now because the days of American exceptionlism are over thanks to the Progressives in this country. They have institutionalized greediness and the welfare state so we are no better than any of these socialist European shitholes any more.

 

[peach174]

Perhaps it could be the other concept is wrong. The far right and the tea party who ever, feel that what ever the United States does is not wrong in any way or in any manner.

I don't deny the fact that exceptional people built this nation. That is without question. I'm proud of that. However, this idea that Americans of today are more exceptional than other people in this world is such non sense. Stupid, entitled, materialistic, and arrogant is what Americans are.

My god, just look at the Tea Party. There are foreigners who admire America, but when they look at the Tea Party, they just scoff or laugh. Tea baggers, in terms of intelligence, are much stupider than the average person the world over. They are also selfish, arrogant and racist. I mean this is the movement who bitches about government spending but also insists on ridiculous tax cuts. How can you respect people who don't understand the concept of revenue?

And yes, I do think there are some great Americans living today. I just don't think being American has anything to do with it.

In terms of citizens, America is not at all superior to the rest of the world. Let's stop pretending that it is.

I think you miss the point. Whats exeptional is the Idea of America, Including the framework that the founders set up. They were intelligent enough to know that a government needs to be self limiting to avoid eventual tyrany. The Idea of America where all men are equal and posses rights that are not given or taken away by men,... that is exceptional in world history. Whether or not you think America has lived up to its ideals is irrelevant, because the bar is set there to strive for.

You sound a bit arrogant to me as long as you bring it up

It's the Tea Party that is trying to change the wrongs that are happening in our Government.
It is the very reason that they are attacked and vilified because it challenges both powers in Washington D.C.

 

[Yarddog]

Perhaps it could be the other concept is wrong. The far right and the tea party who ever, feel that what ever the United States does is not wrong in any way or in any manner.

I don't deny the fact that exceptional people built this nation. That is without question. I'm proud of that. However, this idea that Americans of today are more exceptional than other people in this world is such non sense. Stupid, entitled, materialistic, and arrogant is what Americans are.

My god, just look at the Tea Party. There are foreigners who admire America, but when they look at the Tea Party, they just scoff or laugh. Tea baggers, in terms of intelligence, are much stupider than the average person the world over. They are also selfish, arrogant and racist. I mean this is the movement who bitches about government spending but also insists on ridiculous tax cuts. How can you respect people who don't understand the concept of revenue?

And yes, I do think there are some great Americans living today. I just don't think being American has anything to do with it.

In terms of citizens, America is not at all superior to the rest of the world. Let's stop pretending that it is.

I think you miss the point. Whats exeptional is the Idea of America, Including the framework that the founders set up. They were intelligent enough to know that a government needs to be self limiting to avoid eventual tyrany. The Idea of America where all men are equal and posses rights that are not given or taken away by men,... that is exceptional in world history. Whether or not you think America has lived up to its ideals is irrelevant, because the bar is set there to strive for.

You sound a bit arrogant to me as long as you bring it up

It's the Tea Party that is trying to change the wrongs that are happening in our Government.
It is the very reason that they are attacked and vilified because it challenges both powers in Washington D.C.

I agree with you about the two major parties, and Im sure thats the reason for most of the attacks. Never attended a Tea party meeting or
rally though, been meaning to someday, so i can judge for myself..

 

[boilermaker55]

I am not quite sure how that connects with my statement.

Perhaps it could be the other concept is wrong. The far right and the tea party who ever, feel that what ever the United States does is not wrong in any way or in any manner.

I don't deny the fact that exceptional people built this nation. That is without question. I'm proud of that. However, this idea that Americans of today are more exceptional than other people in this world is such non sense. Stupid, entitled, materialistic, and arrogant is what Americans are.

My god, just look at the Tea Party. There are foreigners who admire America, but when they look at the Tea Party, they just scoff or laugh. Tea baggers, in terms of intelligence, are much stupider than the average person the world over. They are also selfish, arrogant and racist. I mean this is the movement who bitches about government spending but also insists on ridiculous tax cuts. How can you respect people who don't understand the concept of revenue?

And yes, I do think there are some great Americans living today. I just don't think being American has anything to do with it.

In terms of citizens, America is not at all superior to the rest of the world. Let's stop pretending that it is.

I think you miss the point. Whats exeptional is the Idea of America, Including the framework that the founders set up. They were intelligent enough to know that a government needs to be self limiting to avoid eventual tyrany. The Idea of America where all men are equal and posses rights that are not given or taken away by men,... that is exceptional in world history. Whether or not you think America has lived up to its ideals is irrelevant, because the bar is set there to strive for.

You sound a bit arrogant to me as long as you bring it up

It's the Tea Party that is trying to change the wrongs that are happening in our Government.
It is the very reason that they are attacked and vilified because it challenges both powers in Washington D.C.

 

[Little-Acorn]

" ... in which government controls every aspect of ones life, such as what light bulb they use, or how big a drink they can buy, whether they can engage in business, and how much of their business is controlled or confiscated by government, and specific groups are treated with preference or penalty under the law, dependent on their race or success in life...."

Not Liberalism, then or now.

It is exactly what liberalism is doing now. They desperately deny it even as they put more such programs in place, of course - can't let the frog realize the heat is slowly being turned up.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Americans were exceptional at one time back when we believed in freedom and personal responsibility.

However, that doesn't apply any more. We elected a Left government that destroyed those two exceptional attributes. That ship has sailed.

We are no better now than those failed European socialist shitholes, even worse.

Oh it still applies.

The fatal flaw in your theory is that you're including Liberals, Progressives, Socialists and the ever-so-rare for that which is everywhere... Communists, who happen to be either just living in the US or actual US Citizens, AS AMERICANS.

In truth, as no less an authority than a moderator on this very site recently noted:

THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!

Ya see, Nature precludes one from simultaneously adhering to BOTH: The Thesis and the Antithesis.

It simply cannot be done.
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Americans... We're still as exceptional today, as we were in 1776.

Which was when our predecessors declared, in our foundational document, upon God's authority: that we are endowed by God with rights SO CERTAIN that they cannot be removed from our being.

And we commenced from that day, kicking in the teeth of anyone who tries to remove them, which's what we're doin' here through this forum... albeit an intellectual kicking.

At this point the reader will surely recognize that the key to an American defeating a Leftist in debate rest upon only two fundamental elements:

1- Find a Leftist.
2- Get them to speak.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Americans were exceptional at one time back when we believed in freedom and personal responsibility.

However, that doesn't apply any more. We elected a Left government that destroyed those two exceptional attributes. That ship has sailed.

We are no better now than those failed European socialist shitholes, even worse.

Oh it still applies.

The fatal flaw in your theory is that you're including Liberals, Progressives, Socialists and the ever-so-rare for that which is everywhere... Communists, who happen to be either just living in the US or actual US Citizens, AS AMERICANS.

In truth, as no less an authority than a moderator on this very site recently noted:

THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!

Ya see, Nature precludes one from simultaneously adhering to BOTH: The Thesis and the Antithesis.

It simply cannot be done.​

Your Appeal to Authority, and he's wrong, is getting old. America is a Liberal Nation. If you aren't Liberal then get out since it's not a country for you.

 

[peach174]

I am not quite sure how that connects with my statement.

Perhaps it could be the other concept is wrong. The far right and the tea party who ever, feel that what ever the United States does is not wrong in any way or in any manner.

I don't deny the fact that exceptional people built this nation. That is without question. I'm proud of that. However, this idea that Americans of today are more exceptional than other people in this world is such non sense. Stupid, entitled, materialistic, and arrogant is what Americans are.

My god, just look at the Tea Party. There are foreigners who admire America, but when they look at the Tea Party, they just scoff or laugh. Tea baggers, in terms of intelligence, are much stupider than the average person the world over. They are also selfish, arrogant and racist. I mean this is the movement who bitches about government spending but also insists on ridiculous tax cuts. How can you respect people who don't understand the concept of revenue?

And yes, I do think there are some great Americans living today. I just don't think being American has anything to do with it.

In terms of citizens, America is not at all superior to the rest of the world. Let's stop pretending that it is.

I think you miss the point. Whats exeptional is the Idea of America, Including the framework that the founders set up. They were intelligent enough to know that a government needs to be self limiting to avoid eventual tyrany. The Idea of America where all men are equal and posses rights that are not given or taken away by men,... that is exceptional in world history. Whether or not you think America has lived up to its ideals is irrelevant, because the bar is set there to strive for.

You sound a bit arrogant to me as long as you bring it up

It's the Tea Party that is trying to change the wrongs that are happening in our Government.
It is the very reason that they are attacked and vilified because it challenges both powers in Washington D.C.

You said that the right and the tea party doesn't think " that what ever the United States does is not wrong in any way or in any manner".
The Tea Party thinks that the way the U.S. is going is wrong and they are trying to change it.

 

[SAYIT]

Perhaps it could be the other concept is wrong. The far right and the tea party who ever, feel that what ever the United States does is not wrong in any way or in any manner.

Yeah, feel free to twist yourself into a pretzel in this matter but the fact remains loony lefties have lined up to take pot-shots at America and Americans here because that's what you whiny snivelers do.
You just hate.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

American Exceptionalism sounds a lot like that "Master Race" crap Hitler was peddling back in the '30s.[sic]

Well, that's only because you're ignorant to what the term refers.

But, in fairness... as an ignoramus, there was NO WAY you could have know that.

 

[Paperman299]

" ... in which government controls every aspect of ones life, such as what light bulb they use, or how big a drink they can buy, whether they can engage in business, and how much of their business is controlled or confiscated by government, and specific groups are treated with preference or penalty under the law, dependent on their race or success in life...."

Not Liberalism, then or now.

It is exactly what liberalism is doing now. They desperately deny it even as they put more such programs in place, of course - can't let the frog realize the heat is slowly being turned up.

Yes, legislation continues to happen. Of course, when your definition of "extending government control" is nearly any law that doesn't lower taxes, it's easy to find examples to support your "theory" in any functioning legislature.

 

[SAYIT]

YES... America is exceptional because Americans are comprised of people from other countries THAT ARE EXCEPTIONAL and ONLY in America can they become what their exceptionalism provides... the freedom to be exceptional!!!

10% of America's wealthiest 400 are indeed immigrants but the rest are American born. The 3 wealthiest Americans are not just home grown but also from humble roots. We do indeed have a culture which nurtures and encourages exceptionalism.

Forbes 400 The Richest People In Texas 2014 - Forbes

 

[peach174]

Americans were exceptional at one time back when we believed in freedom and personal responsibility.

However, that doesn't apply any more. We elected a Left government that destroyed those two exceptional attributes. That ship has sailed.

We are no better now than those failed European socialist shitholes, even worse.

Oh it still applies.

The fatal flaw in your theory is that you're including Liberals, Progressives, Socialists and the ever-so-rare for that which is everywhere... Communists, who happen to be either just living in the US or actual US Citizens, AS AMERICANS.

In truth, as no less an authority than a moderator on this very site recently noted:

THERE ARE NO LEFTIST AMERICANS!

Ya see, Nature precludes one from simultaneously adhering to BOTH: The Thesis and the Antithesis.

It simply cannot be done.​

Your Appeal to Authority, and he's wrong, is getting old. America is a Liberal Nation. If you aren't Liberal, then get out since it's not a country for you.

Right with 24% saying they are Liberal and the rest are Conservative and Moderate.
The Majority of this nation is not Liberal. Especially Socialist Liberals.
24% of this nation does not have the right to rule over the Majority like they are doing.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

YES... America is exceptional because Americans are comprised of people from other countries THAT ARE EXCEPTIONAL and ONLY in America can they become what their exceptionalism provides... the freedom to be exceptional!!!

10% of America's wealthiest 400 are indeed immigrants but the rest are American born. The 3 wealthiest Americans are not just home grown but also from humble roots. We do indeed have a culture which nurtures and encourages exceptionalism.

Forbes 400 The Richest People In Texas 2014 - Forbes

Actually it fosters greed, and we have a gift for that here.