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Our racial issues won't heal unless and until both ends can stop screaming, look in the mirror, and clean their own house first.
If you'll forgive the mixed metaphor.
I did say "both sides".The Left needs to be less vile, for things to improve.
Good morning IM2...Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
So what we see here is republicans agree with Trumps racism. Basically that's what this says. And yet while they do this we continue reading how the democratic party, the party where 90 percent do not approve of how Trump is handling race, is the racist party.
I did say "both sides".The Left needs to be less vile, for things to improve.
Do you see any room for improvement on the Right?
.
Sure do. And I do believe you feel that way.I did say "both sides".The Left needs to be less vile, for things to improve.
Do you see any room for improvement on the Right?
.
No, we've been pretty well purged, by decades of witch hunts.
The Left though, hasn't even started. THe difference is like black and white.
See what I did there?
Sure do. And I do believe you feel that way.I did say "both sides".The Left needs to be less vile, for things to improve.
Do you see any room for improvement on the Right?
.
No, we've been pretty well purged, by decades of witch hunts.
The Left though, hasn't even started. THe difference is like black and white.
See what I did there?
.
The democrat Party continues to racially divide America. Sad.No more tall tales about the republican party of the 1860's. Blacks are not republicans because of what the party is now.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
By Anthony Salvanto CBS News August 12, 2018, 10:30 AM
Today, 58 percent of Americans disapprove of Mr. Trump's handling of race relations and racial issues, but these views – like many others on the president – are dramatically split by partisanship and by race.
Eighty-two percent of blacks disapprove and 73 percent of Hispanics disapprove. Whites are evenly split (49 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove) and views among them fall along party lines.
Overall, 83 percent of Republicans approve of the president's handling of racial issues, including 44 percent who strongly approve. And 90 percent of Democrats disapprove, including 80 percent who strongly disapprove.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
So what we see here is republicans agree with Trumps racism. Basically that's what this says. And yet while they do this we continue reading how the democratic party, the party where 90 percent do not approve of how Trump is handling race, is the racist party.
Only if someone thinks their house is clean.Sure do. And I do believe you feel that way.I did say "both sides".The Left needs to be less vile, for things to improve.
Do you see any room for improvement on the Right?
.
No, we've been pretty well purged, by decades of witch hunts.
The Left though, hasn't even started. THe difference is like black and white.
See what I did there?
.
COnsidering the massive imbalance on this issue between left and right,
your "both sides" argument, is not helpful.
Only if someone thinks their house is clean.Sure do. And I do believe you feel that way.I did say "both sides".The Left needs to be less vile, for things to improve.
Do you see any room for improvement on the Right?
.
No, we've been pretty well purged, by decades of witch hunts.
The Left though, hasn't even started. THe difference is like black and white.
See what I did there?
.
COnsidering the massive imbalance on this issue between left and right,
your "both sides" argument, is not helpful.
.
No more tall tales about the republican party of the 1860's. Blacks are not republicans because of what the party is now.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
By Anthony Salvanto CBS News August 12, 2018, 10:30 AM
Today, 58 percent of Americans disapprove of Mr. Trump's handling of race relations and racial issues, but these views – like many others on the president – are dramatically split by partisanship and by race.
Eighty-two percent of blacks disapprove and 73 percent of Hispanics disapprove. Whites are evenly split (49 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove) and views among them fall along party lines.
Overall, 83 percent of Republicans approve of the president's handling of racial issues, including 44 percent who strongly approve. And 90 percent of Democrats disapprove, including 80 percent who strongly disapprove.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
So what we see here is republicans agree with Trumps racism. Basically that's what this says. And yet while they do this we continue reading how the democratic party, the party where 90 percent do not approve of how Trump is handling race, is the racist party.
Both can be racist but you only see the racism of one side while ignoring your own side racist and bigoted views in life...
Ex-President Obama was and is a race baiting bigot that used his skin color to excuse his lack of ability to compromise amd yet you blammed Ryan for not giving Obama everything he wanted and claimed it was racism.
Also CBS is known to be for the left when it come to their news and programming, so their poll is meaningless to me and no I do not accept polls from Fox either.
Fact is all sides can be racist but you prefer your side of racism where you claim White Society is at fault for your failure in life while not accepting it is your fault and no one else.
Oh and to prove Obama never cared enough about other minorities in this country please remember he had from 2009 - 2011 to get Immigration Reform done ( which he promised would be done in his first term but failed ), and yet waited until the GOP got control of the House to demand it get done knowing it would never happen.
So yeah the Democrat Leadership plays you like the fool you are and you will keep in voting for them while screaming racism when you lose!
Our racial issues won't heal unless and until both ends can stop screaming, look in the mirror, and clean their own house first.
If you'll forgive the mixed metaphor.
No more tall tales about the republican party of the 1860's. Blacks are not republicans because of what the party is now.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
By Anthony Salvanto CBS News August 12, 2018, 10:30 AM
Today, 58 percent of Americans disapprove of Mr. Trump's handling of race relations and racial issues, but these views – like many others on the president – are dramatically split by partisanship and by race.
Eighty-two percent of blacks disapprove and 73 percent of Hispanics disapprove. Whites are evenly split (49 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove) and views among them fall along party lines.
Overall, 83 percent of Republicans approve of the president's handling of racial issues, including 44 percent who strongly approve. And 90 percent of Democrats disapprove, including 80 percent who strongly disapprove.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
So what we see here is republicans agree with Trumps racism. Basically that's what this says. And yet while they do this we continue reading how the democratic party, the party where 90 percent do not approve of how Trump is handling race, is the racist party.
Both can be racist but you only see the racism of one side while ignoring your own side racist and bigoted views in life...
Ex-President Obama was and is a race baiting bigot that used his skin color to excuse his lack of ability to compromise amd yet you blammed Ryan for not giving Obama everything he wanted and claimed it was racism.
Also CBS is known to be for the left when it come to their news and programming, so their poll is meaningless to me and no I do not accept polls from Fox either.
Fact is all sides can be racist but you prefer your side of racism where you claim White Society is at fault for your failure in life while not accepting it is your fault and no one else.
Oh and to prove Obama never cared enough about other minorities in this country please remember he had from 2009 - 2011 to get Immigration Reform done ( which he promised would be done in his first term but failed ), and yet waited until the GOP got control of the House to demand it get done knowing it would never happen.
So yeah the Democrat Leadership plays you like the fool you are and you will keep in voting for them while screaming racism when you lose!
Not so. All sides can be racist but all sides have not been racist. You don't seem to understand that. I'm not a bigot for pointing ut whe raism. Yu andthose lik you auomatally j ump t thiscnclusion hat Iam taking abut all whites when I tlk abluthis in rspose YPU.
The “not all whites” argument
Saturday December 17th 2011 by abagond
The “not all whites” argument is a common straw man argument on this blog. I will make some statement about whites and then be informed that “not all whites” are like that, that they are Individuals. Like there is some special rule of English that “whites” always means “all whites”. Even when I say “some whites” or “most whites” it can still be taken to mean “all whites” – since clearly I only put in those words as a cheap trick to fool people.
In America, according to the government numbers, whites are supposedly better at reading than blacks. I would never know that from this blog: Only rarely do black commenters seriously misunderstand me while it is quite common for whites. And this imagined “all” before “whites” – which is not in any grammar book I know of – is one of the main causes.
Example: When I say, “Whites owned slaves” it hardly means they all owned slaves. As far as I know no more than 2% of White Americans ever did. Yet that does not make the statement untrue or meaningless. Because quantity is not the issue – it was never stated. To make quantity the issue is a derailment. To assume it means “All whites owned slaves” is putting words in my mouth and creating a straw man argument.
Side note: On this blog, unless it is otherwise clear, “white” mostly means just White Americans, though most of what I say seems to apply to English-speaking whites in general.
Since the “all whites” thing is not in any grammar book I wonder where it comes from. The best reason I have heard so far is that many White Americans use dichotomous thinking, seeing things as either-or. That means it is easy for them to think of whites as either being all the same or all Unique Individuals Unaffected by Race or Culture, leaving little middle ground between the two extremes.
So if I say “whites are racist” it is taken to mean that all whites are racist and racist in the same way. As if I said, “All whites are skinhead racists.” But what is in my head is a range:
– and much more besides.
- from skinhead racists
- to Jim Crow racists
- to scientific racists
- to “The Bell Curve” sorts
- to black pathologists
- to white Republicans
- to ordinary colour-blind racists
- to white liberal racists
- to white anti-racist racists
- to those souls who are not racist at all
- to those who fought against the slave trade
- to the white Freedom Riders
- to John Brown
The “not all whites” argument
You keep repeating the same dumb bullshit. Whites get blamed for what they have done. What they have done is recorded. Just as the numbers here are recorded as to how 83 percent of republicans think Trump is doing a great job on racial issues and 9 out of 10 democrats say no, your last lime shows just how dumb you really are. And since there are white democrats and a few white republicans who don't agree with that assessment means that all whites aren't the problem. So for you to whine about people supposedly blaming all whites for anything shows that once again, you're a dunce cap.
Yawn...another you're all racists thread
Yeah, that's what the other side is telling me, too. See post 29.Both sides ae not the problem.
Yeah, that's what the other side is telling me, too. See post 29.Both sides ae not the problem.
There will be people who will be involved in the healing process, and there will be people who won't be.
If it ever happens, that is.
.
Yeah, that's what the other side is telling me, too. See post 29.Both sides ae not the problem.
There will be people who will be involved in the healing process, and there will be people who won't be.
If it ever happens, that is.
.
I see both sides. You don't. You only see one.Yeah, that's what the other side is telling me, too. See post 29.Both sides ae not the problem.
There will be people who will be involved in the healing process, and there will be people who won't be.
If it ever happens, that is.
.
You choose to be blind. Those who solve the problem will be able to see the root cause and address it.
How to understand Trump’s condemnation of ‘all types of racism’
by Philip Bump
There is an idea, prevalent among some groups, that white Americans face systematic discrimination that’s comparable to — if not worse than — the racial discrimination faced by other groups. A Public Religion Research Institute poll conducted in May 2017 found that “[m]ore than half (52 percent) of white working-class Americans believe discrimination against whites is as big a problem as discrimination against blacks and other minorities.” Among working-class Americans aged 65 and older, nearly 6 in 10 held that view.
A Post-ABC News poll conducted in March 2016 asked people which was the bigger problem: blacks and Hispanics losing out because of preferences for whites or whites losing out because of preferences for blacks and Hispanics. A plurality of Americans said the former. By a 2-to-1 margin, though, Trump voters said the latter was the bigger problem.
Another poll conducted in October found that 55 percent of white Americans think there’s discrimination against white people in America today. A HuffPost/YouGov poll conducted in 2016 found that Trump voters were more likely to believe that white people faced a lot of discrimination than they were to say that Muslim or black people did.
This sense of aggrievement is not exclusive to the white working class or to Trump voters, of course. It’s also a theme that runs through racist and white-nationalist rhetoric. A sense that white Americans are disadvantaged or being held to stricter, more exacting standards than other groups is central to the perceived need to protect white Americans, which is, fundamentally, what white nationalism is about. We’ve heard this rhetoric a lot of late, this idea that white America needs to be defended. At the heart of that assertion is the idea that whites are under fire — an idea that is definitionally centered in racism. In this case, the sort of “reverse racism” measured in the polls above.
Analysis | How to understand Trump’s condemnation of ‘all types of racism’
No more tall tales about the republican party of the 1860's. Blacks are not republicans because of what the party is now.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
By Anthony Salvanto CBS News August 12, 2018, 10:30 AM
Today, 58 percent of Americans disapprove of Mr. Trump's handling of race relations and racial issues, but these views – like many others on the president – are dramatically split by partisanship and by race.
Eighty-two percent of blacks disapprove and 73 percent of Hispanics disapprove. Whites are evenly split (49 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove) and views among them fall along party lines.
Overall, 83 percent of Republicans approve of the president's handling of racial issues, including 44 percent who strongly approve. And 90 percent of Democrats disapprove, including 80 percent who strongly disapprove.
Poll: One year after Charlottesville, majority of Americans see racial tensions on the rise
So what we see here is republicans agree with Trumps racism. Basically that's what this says. And yet while they do this we continue reading how the democratic party, the party where 90 percent do not approve of how Trump is handling race, is the racist party.
Both can be racist but you only see the racism of one side while ignoring your own side racist and bigoted views in life...
Ex-President Obama was and is a race baiting bigot that used his skin color to excuse his lack of ability to compromise amd yet you blammed Ryan for not giving Obama everything he wanted and claimed it was racism.
Also CBS is known to be for the left when it come to their news and programming, so their poll is meaningless to me and no I do not accept polls from Fox either.
Fact is all sides can be racist but you prefer your side of racism where you claim White Society is at fault for your failure in life while not accepting it is your fault and no one else.
Oh and to prove Obama never cared enough about other minorities in this country please remember he had from 2009 - 2011 to get Immigration Reform done ( which he promised would be done in his first term but failed ), and yet waited until the GOP got control of the House to demand it get done knowing it would never happen.
So yeah the Democrat Leadership plays you like the fool you are and you will keep in voting for them while screaming racism when you lose!
Not so. All sides can be racist but all sides have not been racist. You don't seem to understand that. I'm not a bigot for pointing ut whe raism. Yu andthose lik you auomatally j ump t thiscnclusion hat Iam taking abut all whites when I tlk abluthis in rspose YPU.
The “not all whites” argument
Saturday December 17th 2011 by abagond
The “not all whites” argument is a common straw man argument on this blog. I will make some statement about whites and then be informed that “not all whites” are like that, that they are Individuals. Like there is some special rule of English that “whites” always means “all whites”. Even when I say “some whites” or “most whites” it can still be taken to mean “all whites” – since clearly I only put in those words as a cheap trick to fool people.
In America, according to the government numbers, whites are supposedly better at reading than blacks. I would never know that from this blog: Only rarely do black commenters seriously misunderstand me while it is quite common for whites. And this imagined “all” before “whites” – which is not in any grammar book I know of – is one of the main causes.
Example: When I say, “Whites owned slaves” it hardly means they all owned slaves. As far as I know no more than 2% of White Americans ever did. Yet that does not make the statement untrue or meaningless. Because quantity is not the issue – it was never stated. To make quantity the issue is a derailment. To assume it means “All whites owned slaves” is putting words in my mouth and creating a straw man argument.
Side note: On this blog, unless it is otherwise clear, “white” mostly means just White Americans, though most of what I say seems to apply to English-speaking whites in general.
Since the “all whites” thing is not in any grammar book I wonder where it comes from. The best reason I have heard so far is that many White Americans use dichotomous thinking, seeing things as either-or. That means it is easy for them to think of whites as either being all the same or all Unique Individuals Unaffected by Race or Culture, leaving little middle ground between the two extremes.
So if I say “whites are racist” it is taken to mean that all whites are racist and racist in the same way. As if I said, “All whites are skinhead racists.” But what is in my head is a range:
– and much more besides.
- from skinhead racists
- to Jim Crow racists
- to scientific racists
- to “The Bell Curve” sorts
- to black pathologists
- to white Republicans
- to ordinary colour-blind racists
- to white liberal racists
- to white anti-racist racists
- to those souls who are not racist at all
- to those who fought against the slave trade
- to the white Freedom Riders
- to John Brown
The “not all whites” argument
You keep repeating the same dumb bullshit. Whites get blamed for what they have done. What they have done is recorded. Just as the numbers here are recorded as to how 83 percent of republicans think Trump is doing a great job on racial issues and 9 out of 10 democrats say no, your last lime shows just how dumb you really are. And since there are white democrats and a few white republicans who don't agree with that assessment means that all whites aren't the problem. So for you to whine about people supposedly blaming all whites for anything shows that once again, you're a dunce cap.
