It's time to start thinking about resistance.

[Uncensored2008]

Here we go again......

Oh look, it's shortbus to Faun's rescue....

Funny that the mean IQ of the Bolsheviks just declined by 20%....

 

[Uncensored2008]

Except that they don't. So were the founders tyrants? Per you, they were certainly thieves. And when the 'tax protesting' rebels of the Whiskey Rebellion took up arms.....the founders took them down. As they did Shays and his ilk.

So....were the founders Tyrants? If you can't even say it, you're certainly not going to fight against it.

Comrade, that stamp tax on liquor, was it a direct tax?

 

[Faun]

I made no retarded claim, ya moron.

That you fail to grasp just how stupid you are, it too precious.

I was talking about people running for public office. Why do you lack personal responsibility and blame me for your G-d given limitations which prevented you from comprehending that?

geaux4it: "Trump is a start. Just like Bernie a start in changing the dem party"

Faun: "One person isn't going to change anything. That's the wingnut plan??"​

... what office did Thomas Edison run for?

You were making retarded declarations to support your collectivist world view that only through obedience to our rulers can anything happen.

You are a sheep, you cannot grasp any act save following the flock.

There is a reason you are a leftist.

You remain as stupid as ever. In context, as you were shown, I was clearly speaking of elected officials. Now you try to blame me because you're an idiot.

So again I ask, since you didn't answer... what office did Thomas Edison run for?

 

[Skylar]

Putting down tyranny is an express duty of WE THE PEOPLE

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Declaration Of Independence

There's no tyranny, ya flamin' moron. Unlike 1776, everyone now has elected representation in the government which can be voted out by "the people."

Yo cocksucker

Tyranny of the majority is tyranny nevertheless

47 to 50% of the populace claims to have the RIGHT to extract wealth from taxpayers and producers

Comrade Sanders is doing very well even though he is an AVOWED SOCIALIST - how is he going to implement his socialist policies? Simple, the legislative tools necessary to implement his deadly policies were adopted in 1935 by the mother of all scumbags: FDR.


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That's not tyranny, ya moron. That's our system of "we the people" working as designed. "We the people" elected them. If enough people don't like it, then "we the people" will elect folks to change that policy.

Suck my rod you stupid son of a bitch

and is not WE THE PEOPLE you are referring to - you are referring to WE THE LAZY ASS PARASITES ,


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Here we go again......

As tells go, Cont's insistence that everyone fellate him is rather dramatic.

 

[koshergrl]

They're already resisting. And getting killed and thrown in jail and bankrupted for it.

I know Grant county, though. They will kill agents that point guns at them or trespass, and not think twice about it. They don't fuck around. And the feds know it which is why they ambushed the protestors before they crossed the county line and why they're gunning for Palmer.

 

[flacaltenn]

The one thing that the Oregon fiasco did was add to the anger and resentment. It has been added to Ruby Ridge and Waco. It is now useful to stoke the anger.

As far as Waco and Malheur, that's good. Lunatic fringe righties git what they deserved. I have no problem if more of you righties want to thin your herd with such actions. There's room on that list for more of you.

So you like gassing children hiding in bunkers? Shooting mothers holding their babies in their arms. Your sense of sense of "self-preservation" when it comes to abuse of government power is sorely lacking. I think you'd love an actual Tyranny if they were abusing and killing the proper people..

 

[Katzndogz]

The government knows what's happening. A massive surveillance apparatus was just announced for all government employees with security clearances. Social media will be continually monitired. The next thing will be to not hire anyone without a maintained media presence. Then comes the creation of fake personaa.

 

[flacaltenn]

The federal government has a massive domestic paramilitary force. Those who care for freedom must find a way to assert them otherwise they will become slaves.

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Putting down insurrections is an express duty of the federal government under the constitution. And as Washington demonstrated, the founders were more than willing to do so.

Putting down tyranny is an express duty of WE THE PEOPLE

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Declaration Of Independence

There's no tyranny, ya flamin' moron. Unlike 1776, everyone now has elected representation in the government which can be voted out by "the people."

Yo cocksucker

Tyranny of the majority is tyranny nevertheless

47 to 50% of the populace claims to have the RIGHT to extract wealth from taxpayers and producers

So taxes are 'tyranny', now?

Odd, the founders didn't think so, applying and enforcing taxes. Were the founders now tyrants per your bizarro definitions?

Taxes CAN BE tyranny when the Govt STEALS the SSec excess and spends it on other things. Leaves NOTHING of VALUE in return.. And then promises you that YOU and your children will pay yourselves back to cover the amount they stole..

 

[Skylar]

Except that they don't. So were the founders tyrants? Per you, they were certainly thieves. And when the 'tax protesting' rebels of the Whiskey Rebellion took up arms.....the founders took them down. As they did Shays and his ilk.

So....were the founders Tyrants? If you can't even say it, you're certainly not going to fight against it.

Comrade, that stamp tax on liquor, was it a direct tax?

Were direct taxes illegal under the constitution?

 

[Contumacious]

Yo cocksucker

Tyranny of the majority is tyranny nevertheless

47 to 50% of the populace claims to have the RIGHT to extract wealth from taxpayers and producers

So taxes are 'tyranny', now?

Odd, the founders didn't think so, applying and enforcing taxes. Were the founders now tyrants per your bizarro definitions?

Shut the fuck up and go buy the vest.


NONE of the founders approved a heavy graduated "income" tax - that was Karl Marx - he was NOT a founding father.

Your standard was the extraction of wealth. Excise taxes don't 'extract wealth'? Or did you just wipe your ass with your own standard........again.

As for the vest.....why? You're certainly not doing a damn thing, Cont. None of your ilk are. You're talkers. Whiners. Arm Chair warriors.

But you won't so much as sacrifice your next beer. Let alone your life. Making you piss poor revolutionaries. And gloriously harmless.

As a Libertarian , ALL taxes constitute legalized theft.

Except that they don't. So were the founders tyrants? Per you, they were certainly thieves. And when the 'tax protesting' rebels of the Whiskey Rebellion took up arms.....the founders took them down. As they did Shays and his ilk.

So....were the founders Tyrants? If you can't even say it, you're certainly not going to fight against it.

Shut the fuck up you ignorant slut

The Whiskey Rebellion

"Except during the War of 1812, the federal government never again dared to impose an internal excise tax, until the North transformed the American Constitution by centralizing the nation during the War Between the States. One of the evil fruits of this war was the permanent federal “sin” tax on liquor and tobacco, to say nothing of the federal income tax, an abomination and a tyranny even more oppressive than an excise"

The Whiskey Rebellion, then, considered properly, was a victory for liberty and property rather than for federal taxation.

 

[Faun]

There's no tyranny, ya flamin' moron. Unlike 1776, everyone now has elected representation in the government which can be voted out by "the people."

As long as you have enough Super Delegates, that is...

Super delegates are the party's insurance against a rebellious electorate.

SuperDelegates is blatant "voter disenfranchisement".. Those that SCREAM the loudest are usually guilty of it themselves...

No, it is not disenfranchisment. The two major parties which employ super delegates are private organizations which establish and enforce their own rules. Super delegates are in place to make sure the rank and file members (i.e., the electorate) can't easily hijack the party and nominate a candidate who could wreck the party. Much like Trump is positioning to do now.

 

[koshergrl]

The government knows what's happening. A massive surveillance apparatus was just announced for all government employees with security clearances. Social media will be continually monitired. The next thing will be to not hire anyone without a maintained media presence. Then comes the creation of fake personaa.

omg you have no idea...this is already happening, it was awful during the protest. The feds had a whole battalion of government pukes creating fake accounts and pages to draw people in and to misrepresent the actual protesters. They leaked Gavin Seims numbers and flooded his channels trying desperately to close down that live feed so they could torch the refuge and kill those guys.

 

[Skylar]

They're already resisting. And getting killed and thrown in jail and bankrupted for it.

And by 'they', you mean Bundy and the guy who was shitting his pants babbling about how WW2 was faked?

Yeah, Bundy isn't the 'people' either.

And they demonstrate my point: All of your self proclaimed revolutionaries are in jail. If you fuck with the system, the system fucks back. You know it. Which is why you did nothing when Bundy and his ilk 'put out the call'.

Neither did anyone else.

 

[Contumacious]

Except that they don't. So were the founders tyrants? Per you, they were certainly thieves. And when the 'tax protesting' rebels of the Whiskey Rebellion took up arms.....the founders took them down. As they did Shays and his ilk.

So....were the founders Tyrants? If you can't even say it, you're certainly not going to fight against it.

Comrade, that stamp tax on liquor, was it a direct tax?

Were direct taxes illegal under the constitution?

Direct taxation is legal ONLY during emergencies.

The first direct tax - known as the Victory Tax or the withholding tax at source - - was levied in 1942 - they can only be levied for two years - nevertheless the Vicory Tax was NEVER REMOVED - the welfare/warfare police state loves extracting monies from us bty any means necessary.

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[flacaltenn]

Translation

The Constitution (1787) and claims of being a freeman pursuant thereto is , from a socialist standpoint, gibberish.

If FREEMEN attempt to assert their rights they will be crushed like bugs

skylar is socialist for "I will rule over thee"


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No more than Washington said the same to Shays.

The federal government has a massive domestic paramilitary force. Those who care for freedom must find a way to assert them otherwise they will become slaves.

.

Putting down insurrections is an express duty of the federal government under the constitution. And as Washington demonstrated, the founders were more than willing to do so.

Putting down tyranny is an express duty of WE THE PEOPLE

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Declaration Of Independence

There's no tyranny, ya flamin' moron. Unlike 1776, everyone now has elected representation in the government which can be voted out by "the people."

This year -- folks who like liberty and competent govt are discovering where the "tyranny" really is. It's 2 places.

1) In the Party System. You've got 4 folks that RUN CONGRESS. All party animals. NOTHING happens without their approval. They determine if your office is large or put of a janitor closet or WHEN YOU CAN SPEAK. The other 531 members are not irrelevant.

2) The massive mindless minions of the bureaucracy now WRITE the laws. Congress is too feeble, stupid and distracted to write these MASSIVE SWEEPING declarations. So they write an outline, with lots of blanks to be filled in by UNELECTED, UNTOUCHABLE drones. Drones whose bosses change with the political whims and fancies. THAT --- is not representative govt. It IS tyranny..

 

[Faun]

The one thing that the Oregon fiasco did was add to the anger and resentment. It has been added to Ruby Ridge and Waco. It is now useful to stoke the anger.

As far as Waco and Malheur, that's good. Lunatic fringe righties git what they deserved. I have no problem if more of you righties want to thin your herd with such actions. There's room on that list for more of you.

So you like gassing children hiding in bunkers? Shooting mothers holding their babies in their arms. Your sense of sense of "self-preservation" when it comes to abuse of government power is sorely lacking. I think you'd love an actual Tyranny if they were abusing and killing the proper people..

I said nothing about Ruby Ridge. As far as Waco, I hold the parents responsible for leaving their children inside a compound where they were hold up indefinitely in defiance of arrest warrants.

 

[Skylar]

So taxes are 'tyranny', now?

Odd, the founders didn't think so, applying and enforcing taxes. Were the founders now tyrants per your bizarro definitions?

Shut the fuck up and go buy the vest.


NONE of the founders approved a heavy graduated "income" tax - that was Karl Marx - he was NOT a founding father.

Your standard was the extraction of wealth. Excise taxes don't 'extract wealth'? Or did you just wipe your ass with your own standard........again.

As for the vest.....why? You're certainly not doing a damn thing, Cont. None of your ilk are. You're talkers. Whiners. Arm Chair warriors.

But you won't so much as sacrifice your next beer. Let alone your life. Making you piss poor revolutionaries. And gloriously harmless.

As a Libertarian , ALL taxes constitute legalized theft.

Except that they don't. So were the founders tyrants? Per you, they were certainly thieves. And when the 'tax protesting' rebels of the Whiskey Rebellion took up arms.....the founders took them down. As they did Shays and his ilk.

So....were the founders Tyrants? If you can't even say it, you're certainly not going to fight against it.

Shut the fuck up you ignorant slut

The Whiskey Rebellion

"Except during the War of 1812, the federal government never again dared to impose an internal excise tax, until the North transformed the American Constitution by centralizing the nation during the War Between the States. One of the evil fruits of this war was the permanent federal “sin” tax on liquor and tobacco, to say nothing of the federal income tax, an abomination and a tyranny even more oppressive than an excise"

The Whiskey Rebellion, then, considered properly, was a victory for liberty and property rather than for federal taxation.

So it was a victory for liberty that the federal government impossed a tax and then fielded an army to impose it?

Because the Whiskey Tax wasn't repealed until *years* later.

And you ran like a frightened child from my question: Were the Founders tyrants?

If you're defeated by a simple question, surely your 'rebellion' aspirations may be setting the bar too high. As you clearly don't have the backbone for it.

 

[flacaltenn]

There's no tyranny, ya flamin' moron. Unlike 1776, everyone now has elected representation in the government which can be voted out by "the people."

As long as you have enough Super Delegates, that is...

Super delegates are the party's insurance against a rebellious electorate.

SuperDelegates is blatant "voter disenfranchisement".. Those that SCREAM the loudest are usually guilty of it themselves...

No, it is not disenfranchisment. The two major parties which employ super delegates are private organizations which establish and enforce their own rules. Super delegates are in place to make sure the rank and file members (i.e., the electorate) can't easily hijack the party and nominate a candidate who could wreck the party. Much like Trump is positioning to do now.

That's Bullshit. SGT SCHULTZ decides on SuperDelegates within the Dem party to ENFORCE the "establishment" choice. That's how all the SuperDelegates start out as being Hildebeast supporters. It is a completely BIASED selection process.

Is wittle Bernie Sanders a danger to your party? Scared that if he gets delegates apportioned by THE VOTE OF THE PEOPLE --- that will "hijack" Sgt Schultz job???

 

[Faun]

No more than Washington said the same to Shays.

The federal government has a massive domestic paramilitary force. Those who care for freedom must find a way to assert them otherwise they will become slaves.

.

Putting down insurrections is an express duty of the federal government under the constitution. And as Washington demonstrated, the founders were more than willing to do so.

Putting down tyranny is an express duty of WE THE PEOPLE

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

Declaration Of Independence

There's no tyranny, ya flamin' moron. Unlike 1776, everyone now has elected representation in the government which can be voted out by "the people."

This year -- folks who like liberty and competent govt are discovering where the "tyranny" really is. It's 2 places.

1) In the Party System. You've got 4 folks that RUN CONGRESS. All party animals. NOTHING happens without their approval. They determine if your office is large or put of a janitor closet or WHEN YOU CAN SPEAK. The other 531 members are not irrelevant.

2) The massive mindless minions of the bureaucracy now WRITE the laws. Congress is too feeble, stupid and distracted to write these MASSIVE SWEEPING declarations. So they write an outline, with lots of blanks to be filled in by UNELECTED, UNTOUCHABLE drones. Drones whose bosses change with the political whims and fancies. THAT --- is not representative govt. It IS tyranny..

And again... if they don't listen to the will of the people -- they can be voted out. That is not tyranny.

 

[Contumacious]

They're already resisting. And getting killed and thrown in jail and bankrupted for it.

And by 'they', you mean Bundy and the guy who was shitting his pants babbling about how WW2 was faked?

Yeah, Bundy isn't the 'people' either.

And they demonstrate my point: All of your self proclaimed revolutionaries are in jail. If you fuck with the system, the system fucks back. You know it. Which is why you did nothing when Bundy and his ilk 'put out the call'.

Neither did anyone else.

The gargantuan domestic paramilitary force will fuck with you ONLY if you are a small group of dissenters.


They will not fuck with Americans if and when they constitute a concerted large group of individuals attempting to RESTORE then ENFORCE the US Constitution (1787).


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