It's time to start thinking about resistance.

[flacaltenn]

SuperDelegates have been a feature in the Dem party since the LAST principled Popularist (Eugene McCarthy) TRIED to bring the socialist wing of the Dem Party out of the closet. The fact that HE LOST BADLY -- is what set off this voter disenfranchisement by design. Had NOTHING to do with his principles.

The Parties only CARE about winning. And all the leftists whining in this thread about how it's a GOOD THING that the party pushes out a "front-runner" early and avoids debates and carnage are LEFTISTS because all THEY care about is the "winning" part. They dont give a fuck about issues, principles, or dissent or ideas.. That's the key trait of BEING a leftists. It's all about the power and winning..

Any party cares about winning. The fact that you keep screaming about the evils of the Democrat's process betrays your recent indoctrination by conservative media. They have you so riled over the Dem process so that you won't notice that the Repub process will be far more nefarious than the Dems.You are clueless. The Republican process will result in a contested convention with it's own share of unbound delegates that will no doubt not go for the overall vote winner. Grow up dude. This has been the case since the beginning.

Hell no.. I'm riled about BOTH your parties and their priority on WINNING rather than governing or representing the people. THAT'S when resistance is warranted..

This weekend I will be volunteering to "screen" about 5000 ballot petition signatures from Pennsylvania in order to get a 3rd party choice on the ballot there.... THAT'S the hurdles and the litigation that the DEM/REPs put into place to prevent competition..

It has NOT been this way since the beginning,. We allowed these 2 parties to become tyrannical and rob the voters of real Democratic choice. They don't even care if they leave 15 or 18% of the Congress contests -- uncontested because they are not "winnable".. When you actually see how much democratic concepts have SHRUNK over the past 50 years --- you understand that unless these issues are addressed -- there WILL be organized resistance and conflict.. We don't have a Congress anymore.. We have FOUR party bosses allocating every pencil and every speech. And when one party takes control -- they pass blank check bills with the actual law to filled in by agencies that the Congress can't even control any more.

Except that's the way political parties work. It's the way they have always worked.At the very first Republican convention, Lincoln was not the front-runner and had only 39% of the popular vote, he won the nomination in the third round by rallying delegates to support him. By their nature, parties want to remain in power and do that by elevating the candidate they believe gives them the best chance to do so.There's nothing nefarious or secret about their goals. Any candidate can win but you have to play the game to get the support.

Face it Starsky -- You're just a party animal that doesn't care about representative govt or issues or principles or political philosophies. You LOVE winning.. And the parties have conditioned you to believe you're a patriot and a freedom lover by helping them win. This will be ABUNDANTLY clear to you when the "hot war" breaks out.. And people take back the government from the "establishment". The tyranny will be "insiders" and their control of the process. And the mainstream media will be the largest "collateral casualty"..

With any luck -- it'll be here before 2017.

 

[Faun]

Great... now who decides what is or is not "unreasonable" when someone tries to sue over what they believe was a unreasonable search?

No Sploogy, the jury decides.

You're fucking demented. Remind me again.... how many jurors sit on the Supreme Court?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Great... now who decides what is or is not "unreasonable" when someone tries to sue over what they believe was a unreasonable search?

No Sploogy, the jury decides.

You're fucking demented. Remind me again.... how many jurors sit on the Supreme Court?

Lawsuits go directly to the SCOTUS?

Who knew?

 

[Faun]

SuperDelegates have been a feature in the Dem party since the LAST principled Popularist (Eugene McCarthy) TRIED to bring the socialist wing of the Dem Party out of the closet. The fact that HE LOST BADLY -- is what set off this voter disenfranchisement by design. Had NOTHING to do with his principles.

The Parties only CARE about winning. And all the leftists whining in this thread about how it's a GOOD THING that the party pushes out a "front-runner" early and avoids debates and carnage are LEFTISTS because all THEY care about is the "winning" part. They dont give a fuck about issues, principles, or dissent or ideas.. That's the key trait of BEING a leftists. It's all about the power and winning..

Any party cares about winning. The fact that you keep screaming about the evils of the Democrat's process betrays your recent indoctrination by conservative media. They have you so riled over the Dem process so that you won't notice that the Repub process will be far more nefarious than the Dems.You are clueless. The Republican process will result in a contested convention with it's own share of unbound delegates that will no doubt not go for the overall vote winner. Grow up dude. This has been the case since the beginning.

Hell no.. I'm riled about BOTH your parties and their priority on WINNING rather than governing or representing the people. THAT'S when resistance is warranted..

This weekend I will be volunteering to "screen" about 5000 ballot petition signatures from Pennsylvania in order to get a 3rd party choice on the ballot there.... THAT'S the hurdles and the litigation that the DEM/REPs put into place to prevent competition..

It has NOT been this way since the beginning,. We allowed these 2 parties to become tyrannical and rob the voters of real Democratic choice. They don't even care if they leave 15 or 18% of the Congress contests -- uncontested because they are not "winnable".. When you actually see how much democratic concepts have SHRUNK over the past 50 years --- you understand that unless these issues are addressed -- there WILL be organized resistance and conflict.. We don't have a Congress anymore.. We have FOUR party bosses allocating every pencil and every speech. And when one party takes control -- they pass blank check bills with the actual law to filled in by agencies that the Congress can't even control any more.

Except that's the way political parties work. It's the way they have always worked.At the very first Republican convention, Lincoln was not the front-runner and had only 39% of the popular vote, he won the nomination in the third round by rallying delegates to support him. By their nature, parties want to remain in power and do that by elevating the candidate they believe gives them the best chance to do so.There's nothing nefarious or secret about their goals. Any candidate can win but you have to play the game to get the support.

Face it Starsky -- You're just a party animal that doesn't care about representative govt or issues or principles or political philosophies. You LOVE winning.. And the parties have conditioned you to believe you're a patriot and a freedom lover by helping them win. This will be ABUNDANTLY clear to you when the "hot war" breaks out.. And people take back the government from the "establishment". The tyranny will be "insiders" and their control of the process. And the mainstream media will be the largest "collateral casualty"..

With any luck -- it'll be here before 2017.

Holyfuckingshit!

Elections are all about winning. There is no second place. There's a winner and everyone else loses. And if your candidate loses, they don't represent you at all. So ya better hope they win.

 

[koshergrl]

Great... now who decides what is or is not "unreasonable" when someone tries to sue over what they believe was a unreasonable search?

No Sploogy, the jury decides.

You're fucking demented. Remind me again.... how many jurors sit on the Supreme Court?

wtf?

 

[Faun]

Great... now who decides what is or is not "unreasonable" when someone tries to sue over what they believe was a unreasonable search?

No Sploogy, the jury decides.

You're fucking demented. Remind me again.... how many jurors sit on the Supreme Court?

Lawsuits go directly to the SCOTUS?

Who knew?

Who said they go there directly? I didn't -- you're hallucinating again.

Many cases end up in the Supreme Court. For your edification, there's no jury involved at that point... so who do you think decides what is and what is not reasonable?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

SuperDelegates have been a feature in the Dem party since the LAST principled Popularist (Eugene McCarthy) TRIED to bring the socialist wing of the Dem Party out of the closet. The fact that HE LOST BADLY -- is what set off this voter disenfranchisement by design. Had NOTHING to do with his principles.

The Parties only CARE about winning. And all the leftists whining in this thread about how it's a GOOD THING that the party pushes out a "front-runner" early and avoids debates and carnage are LEFTISTS because all THEY care about is the "winning" part. They dont give a fuck about issues, principles, or dissent or ideas.. That's the key trait of BEING a leftists. It's all about the power and winning..

Any party cares about winning. The fact that you keep screaming about the evils of the Democrat's process betrays your recent indoctrination by conservative media. They have you so riled over the Dem process so that you won't notice that the Repub process will be far more nefarious than the Dems.You are clueless. The Republican process will result in a contested convention with it's own share of unbound delegates that will no doubt not go for the overall vote winner. Grow up dude. This has been the case since the beginning.

Hell no.. I'm riled about BOTH your parties and their priority on WINNING rather than governing or representing the people. THAT'S when resistance is warranted..

This weekend I will be volunteering to "screen" about 5000 ballot petition signatures from Pennsylvania in order to get a 3rd party choice on the ballot there.... THAT'S the hurdles and the litigation that the DEM/REPs put into place to prevent competition..

It has NOT been this way since the beginning,. We allowed these 2 parties to become tyrannical and rob the voters of real Democratic choice. They don't even care if they leave 15 or 18% of the Congress contests -- uncontested because they are not "winnable".. When you actually see how much democratic concepts have SHRUNK over the past 50 years --- you understand that unless these issues are addressed -- there WILL be organized resistance and conflict.. We don't have a Congress anymore.. We have FOUR party bosses allocating every pencil and every speech. And when one party takes control -- they pass blank check bills with the actual law to filled in by agencies that the Congress can't even control any more.

Except that's the way political parties work. It's the way they have always worked.At the very first Republican convention, Lincoln was not the front-runner and had only 39% of the popular vote, he won the nomination in the third round by rallying delegates to support him. By their nature, parties want to remain in power and do that by elevating the candidate they believe gives them the best chance to do so.There's nothing nefarious or secret about their goals. Any candidate can win but you have to play the game to get the support.

Face it Starsky -- You're just a party animal that doesn't care about representative govt or issues or principles or political philosophies. You LOVE winning.. And the parties have conditioned you to believe you're a patriot and a freedom lover by helping them win. This will be ABUNDANTLY clear to you when the "hot war" breaks out.. And people take back the government from the "establishment". The tyranny will be "insiders" and their control of the process. And the mainstream media will be the largest "collateral casualty"..

With any luck -- it'll be here before 2017.

You don't know me dude. Your worldview is so cynical and jaded you can't even see reality anymore.Obviously you hate losing as you're hoping the world burns before the next inauguration.The system is now what it's been your entire lifetime. Nothing has changed. There is no tyranny and no corruption. It is what it is and what it's always been. No two candidates from any party are the same. Some are better than others but they're all different. Different priorities, principles and political philosophies even within a the same party. You aren't enlightened, you're inculcated into the RW loony fever swamp.

 

[P@triot]

Well duh....they aren't done cleaning it up yet.

And this will be your response when Louis Gommert is running for his 10th term, too.

To be honest - I highly doubt they will have it cleaned up by his 10th term. But if they do, my response will be dependent upon his performance.

If he has $10 million in his bank account and is violating the U.S. Constitution daily - just like Nancy Pelosi - I will consider him a typical dirt-bag politician who should not have become a career politician. If, however, he is a man of modest means who is upholding the U.S. Constitution as his oath requires him to, I will respect and praise him.

What do you think of a "performance" that wastes taxpayer money to the tune of over $60 million to repeal Obamacare over 50 times, knowing that Obama will never sign it?

Is that the Tea Party ideal? The ones who constantly bitch about the government spending money? They're frauds from a fraudulent, Astroturfed "movement".

Nancy Pelosi's husband is a very wealthy businessman - I though you wingnuts loved those people? If you have any evidence that she has stolen taxpayer money, put up or shut the fuck up.

Obama Hellcare must be abolished by any means necessary.

It is a socialist unconstitutional scam

.

You just hate successful Democratic policies!

NYT: Immigrants And Low Wage Workers Benefiting The Most From Obamacare

Immigrants -- and specifically, Hispanic immigrants -- are among those benefiting the most from Obamacare, a New York Times analysis published Sunday said. The Times' report on the first full year of Affordable Care Act implementation found that low-wage workers also saw their uninsured rates decrease sharply, as did part-time workers and those with only high school degrees.

"The analysis shows how the law lifted some of the most vulnerable citizens," the Times reported.

I'll see your article Syn and raise you one more centered in reality and in the number of people negatively impacted by Obamacare as opposed to the extreme minority positively impacted by it...

Insurers warn losses from ObamaCare are unsustainable

 

[P@triot]

SuperDelegates have been a feature in the Dem party since the LAST principled Popularist (Eugene McCarthy) TRIED to bring the socialist wing of the Dem Party out of the closet. The fact that HE LOST BADLY -- is what set off this voter disenfranchisement by design. Had NOTHING to do with his principles.

The Parties only CARE about winning. And all the leftists whining in this thread about how it's a GOOD THING that the party pushes out a "front-runner" early and avoids debates and carnage are LEFTISTS because all THEY care about is the "winning" part. They dont give a fuck about issues, principles, or dissent or ideas.. That's the key trait of BEING a leftists. It's all about the power and winning..

Any party cares about winning. The fact that you keep screaming about the evils of the Democrat's process betrays your recent indoctrination by conservative media. They have you so riled over the Dem process so that you won't notice that the Repub process will be far more nefarious than the Dems.You are clueless. The Republican process will result in a contested convention with it's own share of unbound delegates that will no doubt not go for the overall vote winner. Grow up dude. This has been the case since the beginning.

Hell no.. I'm riled about BOTH your parties and their priority on WINNING rather than governing or representing the people. THAT'S when resistance is warranted..

This weekend I will be volunteering to "screen" about 5000 ballot petition signatures from Pennsylvania in order to get a 3rd party choice on the ballot there.... THAT'S the hurdles and the litigation that the DEM/REPs put into place to prevent competition..

It has NOT been this way since the beginning,. We allowed these 2 parties to become tyrannical and rob the voters of real Democratic choice. They don't even care if they leave 15 or 18% of the Congress contests -- uncontested because they are not "winnable".. When you actually see how much democratic concepts have SHRUNK over the past 50 years --- you understand that unless these issues are addressed -- there WILL be organized resistance and conflict.. We don't have a Congress anymore.. We have FOUR party bosses allocating every pencil and every speech. And when one party takes control -- they pass blank check bills with the actual law to filled in by agencies that the Congress can't even control any more.

Except that's the way political parties work. It's the way they have always worked.At the very first Republican convention, Lincoln was not the front-runner and had only 39% of the popular vote, he won the nomination in the third round by rallying delegates to support him. By their nature, parties want to remain in power and do that by elevating the candidate they believe gives them the best chance to do so.There's nothing nefarious or secret about their goals. Any candidate can win but you have to play the game to get the support.

Face it Starsky -- You're just a party animal that doesn't care about representative govt or issues or principles or political philosophies. You LOVE winning.. And the parties have conditioned you to believe you're a patriot and a freedom lover by helping them win. This will be ABUNDANTLY clear to you when the "hot war" breaks out.. And people take back the government from the "establishment". The tyranny will be "insiders" and their control of the process. And the mainstream media will be the largest "collateral casualty"..

With any luck -- it'll be here before 2017.

You don't know me dude. Your worldview is so cynical and jaded you can't even see reality anymore.Obviously you hate losing as you're hoping the world burns before the next inauguration.The system is now what it's been your entire lifetime. Nothing has changed. There is no tyranny and no corruption. It is what it is and what it's always been. No two candidates from any party are the same. Some are better than others but they're all different. Different priorities, principles and political philosophies even within a the same party. You aren't enlightened, you're inculcated into the RW loony fever swamp.

Did you seriously just say, "There is no tyranny and no corruption"?!? Wow... just... uh....wow. That is a special kind of naive that I can't even begin to wrap my head around.

 

[P@triot]

the next ideal situation would be to have a Supreme Court filled with true justices (such as Antonin Scalia)

Scalia was an activist Justice, creating laws from the bench and putting his religious beliefs ahead of the Constitution. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Oh please...that is the exact opposite of reality and you know it. Antonin Scalia was the one Supreme Court justice who actually acted like a true justice. He put his own opinions aside and objectively accepted the U.S. Constitution for exactly how it was written. He is forever the shining example of exactly what a justice was intended to be.

By the way, vintage example of the modern day "bleeding heart liberal" there - celebrating the death of a good and decent man.

 

[Synthaholic]

It was the Obamacare mandates that caused the prices to go up. That's a simple fact.

It's not a fact, and there is no way you can prove that it is. And a bigger pool of insured should result in lower prices, but the companies decided to jack the rates.

 

[Synthaholic]

That's why millions of policies were cancelled.

Why were policies cancelled instead of addended/modified to comply? Multiple times a year I get a notice from a credit card company telling me my terms of service have changed, and I can accept the changes or cancel my card. Insurers could have done the same thing.

 

[Synthaholic]

So the real question is - why does the government, engaging in highly illegal activity - get a pass from you?

Name the illegality. And STFU about how you know the law better than SCOTUS.

 

[Synthaholic]

And....why do you blame private industry for all of your problems

I have no problems.

 

[Synthaholic]

The proof is that it costs everyone more now for their coverage than it did before Obamacare.

That's false, as I've just posted the article again.

And Obamacare doesn't set the cost - insurance companies do.

Obamacare absolutely sets the costs by its mandates. Stop being a naive minion to the government.

False. Government set the mandates, insurers set the cost.

Now show me how those mandates forced insurers to raise their prices.

 

[Synthaholic]

You can post a radical left-wing article celebrating tens of thousands of people all you want.

Yeah, the New York Times is a bunch of radicals.

You're delusional, dude. Must be from the Right-Wing brainwashing you lap up daily from conservative media.

 

[P@triot]

It was the Obamacare mandates that caused the prices to go up. That's a simple fact.

It's not a fact, and there is no way you can prove that it is. And a bigger pool of insured should result in lower prices, but the companies decided to jack the rates.

It doesn't matter the pool size when government is removing free-market competition! The mandates on what a policy must include and offer cause prices to skyrocket.

 

[Faun]

Any party cares about winning. The fact that you keep screaming about the evils of the Democrat's process betrays your recent indoctrination by conservative media. They have you so riled over the Dem process so that you won't notice that the Repub process will be far more nefarious than the Dems.You are clueless. The Republican process will result in a contested convention with it's own share of unbound delegates that will no doubt not go for the overall vote winner. Grow up dude. This has been the case since the beginning.

Hell no.. I'm riled about BOTH your parties and their priority on WINNING rather than governing or representing the people. THAT'S when resistance is warranted..

This weekend I will be volunteering to "screen" about 5000 ballot petition signatures from Pennsylvania in order to get a 3rd party choice on the ballot there.... THAT'S the hurdles and the litigation that the DEM/REPs put into place to prevent competition..

It has NOT been this way since the beginning,. We allowed these 2 parties to become tyrannical and rob the voters of real Democratic choice. They don't even care if they leave 15 or 18% of the Congress contests -- uncontested because they are not "winnable".. When you actually see how much democratic concepts have SHRUNK over the past 50 years --- you understand that unless these issues are addressed -- there WILL be organized resistance and conflict.. We don't have a Congress anymore.. We have FOUR party bosses allocating every pencil and every speech. And when one party takes control -- they pass blank check bills with the actual law to filled in by agencies that the Congress can't even control any more.

Except that's the way political parties work. It's the way they have always worked.At the very first Republican convention, Lincoln was not the front-runner and had only 39% of the popular vote, he won the nomination in the third round by rallying delegates to support him. By their nature, parties want to remain in power and do that by elevating the candidate they believe gives them the best chance to do so.There's nothing nefarious or secret about their goals. Any candidate can win but you have to play the game to get the support.

Face it Starsky -- You're just a party animal that doesn't care about representative govt or issues or principles or political philosophies. You LOVE winning.. And the parties have conditioned you to believe you're a patriot and a freedom lover by helping them win. This will be ABUNDANTLY clear to you when the "hot war" breaks out.. And people take back the government from the "establishment". The tyranny will be "insiders" and their control of the process. And the mainstream media will be the largest "collateral casualty"..

With any luck -- it'll be here before 2017.

You don't know me dude. Your worldview is so cynical and jaded you can't even see reality anymore.Obviously you hate losing as you're hoping the world burns before the next inauguration.The system is now what it's been your entire lifetime. Nothing has changed. There is no tyranny and no corruption. It is what it is and what it's always been. No two candidates from any party are the same. Some are better than others but they're all different. Different priorities, principles and political philosophies even within a the same party. You aren't enlightened, you're inculcated into the RW loony fever swamp.

Did you seriously just say, "There is no tyranny and no corruption"?!? Wow... just... uh....wow. That is a special kind of naive that I can't even begin to wrap my head around.

Spits the imbecile who said the economy during the Great Recession was, "just fine." <smh>

 

[P@triot]

That's why millions of policies were cancelled.

Why were policies cancelled instead of addended/modified to comply? Multiple times a year I get a notice from a credit card company telling me my terms of service have changed, and I can accept the changes or cancel my card. Insurers could have done the same thing.

No - they couldn't. A credit card doesn't charge you - they charge the business that you purchase goods and services from. And you may not use the credit card for weeks or months.

But that's not the case with insurance. It's a constant cost which cannot be skipped. And...the policies were not "addended/modified" because that was not an option with Obamacare. The regulations required services and coverage far beyond what the previous pricing structure could support.

 

[P@triot]

The proof is that it costs everyone more now for their coverage than it did before Obamacare.

That's false, as I've just posted the article again.

And Obamacare doesn't set the cost - insurance companies do.

Obamacare absolutely sets the costs by its mandates. Stop being a naive minion to the government.

False. Government set the mandates, insurers set the cost.

Now show me how those mandates forced insurers to raise their prices.

Gladly.... (how long are you going to deny reality Syn?)

The largest health insurer in the country is bailing on Obamacare