Jesus died for our sins......

[hobelim]

The theological gap between Judaism and Christianity is not limited to the question: "Who is the Messiah," or a debate over the translation of a few biblical verses. Judaism and Christianity are two different belief systems, differing over core issues such as the existential nature of man, the role of our relationship with God, and the path to genuine spiritual fulfillment.

Jews have held steadfast to their beliefs for thousands of years, amidst all forms of persecution and hardship. They have done so in the belief that the Jewish people – as bearers of God’s message of morality and justice – have a unique and crucial role to play in human history.

Maybe so, but, objectively speaking, the OT and recorded plight of the Jewish people reads like a manual of what not to do.

What good is holding steadfastly to a literal application of Mosaic law when the words used are figurative in nature and the subjects hidden and not directly connected to the literal meaning of the words used?

If thousands of years of following the literal letter of the law was right, how is it that your history seems like a fulfillment of the long list of maledictions promised by Moses for disobedience?

Maybe there is a better way?



The messiah is expected to lead people to the sanctuary of God. By teaching and demonstrating the only right way to understand and comply with the divine commands that leads to life, the sanctuary of God, (divine providence and not a temple), Jesus fulfilled this scripture for all those who accept this teaching and do it.

 

[the_human_being]

Life in the Blood
“For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.” (Leviticus 17:11)

This great verse contains a wealth of scientific and spiritual truth. It was not realized until the discovery of the circulation of the blood by the creation scientist William Harvey, in about 1620, that biological “life” really is maintained by the blood, which both brings nourishment to all parts of the body and also carries away its wastes.

Its spiritual truth is even more significant. The blood, when shed on the altar, would serve as an “atonement” (literally “covering”) for the soul of the guilty sinner making the offering. In fact, the “life” of the flesh is actually its “soul,” for “life” and “soul” both translate the same Hebrew word (nephesh) in this text. When the blood was offered, it was thus an offering of life itself in substitution for the life of the sinner who deserved to die.

Human sacrifices, of course, were prohibited. No man could die for another man, for his blood would inevitably be contaminated by his own sin. Therefore, the blood of a “clean animal” was required. Animals do not possess the “image of God” (Genesis 1:27), including the ability to reason about right and wrong, and therefore cannot sin. Even such clean blood could only serve as a temporary covering, and it could not really “take away” sin. For a permanent solution to the sin problem, nothing less was required than that of the sinless “Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world” (John 1:29). “Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us” (Hebrews 9:12). Since His life was in His blood, He has “made peace through the blood of his cross” (Colossians 1:20). HMM

 

[the_human_being]

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your man god was just one in a long line of failed messiahs

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew wordMashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)

(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus

So the goyim to claim he was a messiah is laughable and totally ignorant

Clearly you have little knowledge of the Bible. Even the thief on the cross was aware of Christ's returning to establish Hid earthly kingdom. You posted a whole lot to say nothing.

 

[the_human_being]

The theological gap between Judaism and Christianity is not limited to the question: "Who is the Messiah," or a debate over the translation of a few biblical verses. Judaism and Christianity are two different belief systems, differing over core issues such as the existential nature of man, the role of our relationship with God, and the path to genuine spiritual fulfillment.

Jews have held steadfast to their beliefs for thousands of years, amidst all forms of persecution and hardship. They have done so in the belief that the Jewish people – as bearers of God’s message of morality and justice – have a unique and crucial role to play in human history.

The Apostle Paul who was a devout believer in the Law and a bona fide Jew of the Tribe of Benjamin, declared that Israel had been blinded by God and would remain blinded until the time of the fullness of the Gentiles. No one can lift the blindness except He who blinded them.

 

[guno]

View attachment 56761

your man god was just one in a long line of failed messiahs

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew wordMashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)


(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus

So the goyim to claim he was a messiah is laughable and totally ignorant

Clearly you have little knowledge of the Bible. Even the thief on the cross was aware of Christ's returning to establish Hid earthly kingdom. You posted a whole lot to say nothing.

too funny an ignorant goy telling a Jew that he doesn't know torah!!!!

ahaha, ignorant goyim.
Filthy Jesus was a mamzer, a union of miriam the whore and a roman soldier

 

[the_human_being]

View attachment 56761

your man god was just one in a long line of failed messiahs

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew wordMashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)


(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus

So the goyim to claim he was a messiah is laughable and totally ignorant

Clearly you have little knowledge of the Bible. Even the thief on the cross was aware of Christ's returning to establish Hid earthly kingdom. You posted a whole lot to say nothing.

too funny an ignorant goy telling a Jew that he doesn't know torah!!!!

ahaha, ignorant goyim.
Filthy Jesus was a mamzer, a union of miriam the whore and a roman soldier

Was there anything about the thief on the cross in the torah? Was there anything Paul declared about the blinding of Israel in the torah?

 

[guno]

View attachment 56761

your man god was just one in a long line of failed messiahs

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew wordMashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)


(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus

So the goyim to claim he was a messiah is laughable and totally ignorant

Clearly you have little knowledge of the Bible. Even the thief on the cross was aware of Christ's returning to establish Hid earthly kingdom. You posted a whole lot to say nothing.

too funny an ignorant goy telling a Jew that he doesn't know torah!!!!

ahaha, ignorant goyim.
Filthy Jesus was a mamzer, a union of miriam the whore and a roman soldier

Misquoting Texts – What does Tanach really say?

The claim of Paul and the New Testament authors is that Jesus fulfilled many prophecies connected to the Hebrew Scriptures (so-called Old Testament) and a true believer will easily be able to see them. The gospel according to Matthew, in particular, attempts to cross-reference the miraculous birth, deeds and proclamations attributed to Jesus with relevant passages found in Tanach.

Closer scrutiny, however, reveals a great conspiracy and tampering of the evidence. Not one verse from Tanach proves the messiahship of Jesus. On the contrary, our Jewish sages, for two millennium have had ample time to analyze and decipher all 22,000+ verses in Tanach, and have concluded that Jesus did not fulfill any of its prophecies, nor are there any passages that unambiguously allude to his life or ministry. On the contrary, we will discover how the New Testament distorts and contorts Tanach to make it “bend” to their a priori agenda to “prove” their beliefs about Jesus. Let’s see!

In a certain way, Fundamentalist missionaries shoot the arrow in the target and then draw the bull’s eye around the arrow. In this fashion, they claim to always be correct, making the evidence conform to their foregone conclusions.

Let’s begin with a verse taken out of context (a verse out of context is a pretext):

Christian Proof-Texting - Jews For Judaism

 

[the_human_being]

View attachment 56761

your man god was just one in a long line of failed messiahs

Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

1. Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
2. Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
3. Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
4. Jewish belief is based on national revelation.

But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew wordMashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)


(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies

What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus

So the goyim to claim he was a messiah is laughable and totally ignorant

Clearly you have little knowledge of the Bible. Even the thief on the cross was aware of Christ's returning to establish Hid earthly kingdom. You posted a whole lot to say nothing.

too funny an ignorant goy telling a Jew that he doesn't know torah!!!!

ahaha, ignorant goyim.
Filthy Jesus was a mamzer, a union of miriam the whore and a roman soldier

Misquoting Texts – What does Tanach really say?

The claim of Paul and the New Testament authors is that Jesus fulfilled many prophecies connected to the Hebrew Scriptures (so-called Old Testament) and a true believer will easily be able to see them. The gospel according to Matthew, in particular, attempts to cross-reference the miraculous birth, deeds and proclamations attributed to Jesus with relevant passages found in Tanach.

Closer scrutiny, however, reveals a great conspiracy and tampering of the evidence. Not one verse from Tanach proves the messiahship of Jesus. On the contrary, our Jewish sages, for two millennium have had ample time to analyze and decipher all 22,000+ verses in Tanach, and have concluded that Jesus did not fulfill any of its prophecies, nor are there any passages that unambiguously allude to his life or ministry. On the contrary, we will discover how the New Testament distorts and contorts Tanach to make it “bend” to their a priori agenda to “prove” their beliefs about Jesus. Let’s see!

In a certain way, Fundamentalist missionaries shoot the arrow in the target and then draw the bull’s eye around the arrow. In this fashion, they claim to always be correct, making the evidence conform to their foregone conclusions.

Let’s begin with a verse taken out of context (a verse out of context is a pretext):

Christian Proof-Texting - Jews For Judaism

Evading my questions? I realize you disavow the Christ and the New Testament. As a reward for the Jews' murder of Stephen, God turned away from the Jews as His vehicle to spread His gospel during this Church Age and turned to the Gentiles which readily accepted the Christ. I cannot help you. It was not I who blinded you. Your sight will be restored in due time as God has promised.

 

[guno]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"

We don't teach anything about Jesus, because he's not part of our religion. In your religious institutions, you study your own religion; you don't study every other religion in the world and explain why they're wrong. We do the same. We don't study why we don't believe in Jesus, because he's simply not a part of our religion. When we discuss Jesus, it's usually in response to attempts to convert Jews, which are more common and more aggressive than most non-Jews realize.

Jews don't believe in Jesus. .... Yeshu is considered to be a mamzer, A "bastard"

 

[guno]

yeshu was a product of a Roman soldier named Pantera and mary the hairdresser and whore

Jesus the son of Miriam and a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Pantera was born around the time of the winter solstice. Pantera is a Greek name, and Esus was a very popular name among the Druids in Gaul and Britannia. It was Romanized by putting the letter "J" in front..

According to the Talmud, Jesus' father was a Roman soldier named Pandera.

 

[BreezeWood]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism.

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is that because he was not the (Messiah). or because he fulfilled the role given to him by the Almighty.

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[hobelim]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism.

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is that because he was not the (Messiah). or because he fulfilled the role given to him by the Almighty.

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Part of the problem began in 325 ce. when Rome conjured a false substitute Jesus that never existed based on perverse superstitious interpretations of the gospels that reflected preexisting Mithraic beliefs and degrading pagan religious practices.

To expect Judaism to accept such an obvious counterfeit messiah is to fail to discern the teachings of both the Torah and the Jesus that actually existed.

 

[the_human_being]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"

We don't teach anything about Jesus, because he's not part of our religion. In your religious institutions, you study your own religion; you don't study every other religion in the world and explain why they're wrong. We do the same. We don't study why we don't believe in Jesus, because he's simply not a part of our religion. When we discuss Jesus, it's usually in response to attempts to convert Jews, which are more common and more aggressive than most non-Jews realize.

Jews don't believe in Jesus. .... Yeshu is considered to be a mamzer, A "bastard"

The problem for you is that your own historians wrote about Jesus and about your participation in his murder. Do you also deny your own historians? I don't fault you for denying Him because you murdered Him and all the prophets.

 

[HaShev]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"

We don't teach anything about Jesus, because he's not part of our religion. In your religious institutions, you study your own religion; you don't study every other religion in the world and explain why they're wrong. We do the same. We don't study why we don't believe in Jesus, because he's simply not a part of our religion. When we discuss Jesus, it's usually in response to attempts to convert Jews, which are more common and more aggressive than most non-Jews realize.

Jews don't believe in Jesus. .... Yeshu is considered to be a mamzer, A "bastard"

The problem for you is that your own historians wrote about Jesus and about your participation in his murder. Do you also deny your own historians? I don't fault you for denying Him because you murdered Him and all the prophets.

Guno lives in our era, so are you saying Guno time traveled, killed Jesus as you accused him, then came back here to this forum to taunt you?
You are historically inaccurate, historians like Josephus says the Christ (Yehuda) in the time of Herod was killed by Rome for his tax revolt and the AD christ Theudas was killed by Rome along with his apostles for their revolt, no where is there any inkling of Jewish authority blame and neither in the rational world do people blame a group of people for the acts of a few elect especially present day people who didn't live in that era. Exposed=hate monger.
Who makes you hate innocent people for no reason? Answer: the Jesus myth.

 

[the_human_being]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"

We don't teach anything about Jesus, because he's not part of our religion. In your religious institutions, you study your own religion; you don't study every other religion in the world and explain why they're wrong. We do the same. We don't study why we don't believe in Jesus, because he's simply not a part of our religion. When we discuss Jesus, it's usually in response to attempts to convert Jews, which are more common and more aggressive than most non-Jews realize.

Jews don't believe in Jesus. .... Yeshu is considered to be a mamzer, A "bastard"

The problem for you is that your own historians wrote about Jesus and about your participation in his murder. Do you also deny your own historians? I don't fault you for denying Him because you murdered Him and all the prophets.

Guno lives in our era, so are you saying Guno time traveled, killed Jesus as you accused him, then came back here to this forum to taunt you?
You are historically inaccurate, historians like Josephus says the Christ (Yehuda) in the time of Herod was killed by Rome for his tax revolt and the AD christ Theudas was killed by Rome along with his apostles for their revolt, no where is there any inkling of Jewish authority blame and neither in the rational world do people blame a group of people for the acts of a few elect especially present day people who didn't live in that era. Exposed=hate monger.
Who makes you hate innocent people for no reason? Answer: the Jesus myth.

Simple. We all murdered him. That includes you and I and Guno.

 

[OnePercenter]

Jesus died because of religious zealots. And there we have the problem with the world.

 

[OZman]

Who makes you hate innocent people for no reason? Answer: the Jesus myth.

The blatant anti-Semitism contained in the NT is obvious evidence that the myth is a Greco-Roman invention.

 

[HaShev]

yeah including making the Villain named Judas to represent Judea while also making them never suspect they are borrowing of the image through the Galilean tax revolter christ Yehuda who is the one in the time of Lysanias and Herod but not the AD era figure they also borrow of. This way they squelch the revolters using the character against them. They call that "swallowing up your enemies" by adopting their devotions and making yourself their new authority which requires reverse and displaced blame.

 

[HaShev]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"

We don't teach anything about Jesus, because he's not part of our religion. In your religious institutions, you study your own religion; you don't study every other religion in the world and explain why they're wrong. We do the same. We don't study why we don't believe in Jesus, because he's simply not a part of our religion. When we discuss Jesus, it's usually in response to attempts to convert Jews, which are more common and more aggressive than most non-Jews realize.

Jews don't believe in Jesus. .... Yeshu is considered to be a mamzer, A "bastard"

The problem for you is that your own historians wrote about Jesus and about your participation in his murder. Do you also deny your own historians? I don't fault you for denying Him because you murdered Him and all the prophets.

Guno lives in our era, so are you saying Guno time traveled, killed Jesus as you accused him, then came back here to this forum to taunt you?
You are historically inaccurate, historians like Josephus says the Christ (Yehuda) in the time of Herod was killed by Rome for his tax revolt and the AD christ Theudas was killed by Rome along with his apostles for their revolt, no where is there any inkling of Jewish authority blame and neither in the rational world do people blame a group of people for the acts of a few elect especially present day people who didn't live in that era. Exposed=hate monger.
Who makes you hate innocent people for no reason? Answer: the Jesus myth.

Simple. We all murdered him. That includes you and I and Guno.

That's like saying we all killed mr bill, you can't kill a fictional character (image forged by words=something they hinted to and have admited recently if you paid attention).

 

[the_human_being]

Jesus is simply not a part of Judaism. He is irrelevant to our religion. To ask a Jew, "why don't you believe in Jesus?" is like asking a Christian, "why don't you believe in Zeus?"

We don't teach anything about Jesus, because he's not part of our religion. In your religious institutions, you study your own religion; you don't study every other religion in the world and explain why they're wrong. We do the same. We don't study why we don't believe in Jesus, because he's simply not a part of our religion. When we discuss Jesus, it's usually in response to attempts to convert Jews, which are more common and more aggressive than most non-Jews realize.

Jews don't believe in Jesus. .... Yeshu is considered to be a mamzer, A "bastard"

The problem for you is that your own historians wrote about Jesus and about your participation in his murder. Do you also deny your own historians? I don't fault you for denying Him because you murdered Him and all the prophets.

Guno lives in our era, so are you saying Guno time traveled, killed Jesus as you accused him, then came back here to this forum to taunt you?
You are historically inaccurate, historians like Josephus says the Christ (Yehuda) in the time of Herod was killed by Rome for his tax revolt and the AD christ Theudas was killed by Rome along with his apostles for their revolt, no where is there any inkling of Jewish authority blame and neither in the rational world do people blame a group of people for the acts of a few elect especially present day people who didn't live in that era. Exposed=hate monger.
Who makes you hate innocent people for no reason? Answer: the Jesus myth.

Simple. We all murdered him. That includes you and I and Guno.

That's like saying we all killed mr bill, you can't kill a fictional character (image forged by words=something they hinted to and have admited recently if you paid attention).

Another one who denies her own historians.