Jesus the Victorious, in Islam

[irosie91]

What's very apparent is that Muslim75 just posts what his beliefs are about Islam and doesn't attack any other posters.

But the usual haters show up and viciously attack Muslim75 instead of engaging in dialogue or a debate. .....

Muslim75 has every right in the world to post his beliefs. No one is keeping him from doing it, dumbfuck.

Ahhh, good...own your hate.

Let it flow through you and make you stronger

Not hate. A statement of fact.

Thank you for playing. Getting musty in your mom and dad's basement these days?

Thanks for that little glimpse into your insecurities. I love projectons

It is vulgar for ANYONE who addresses a group of people of varying religions to DECLARE the nonsense of his OWN to
be THE PERFECT one in comparison to others---vulgar for anyone. In fact I was horrified when in a mosque---long ago-------it happened to have been a "GOOD FRIDAY"---the Imam was a visitor from Egypt-----his disgusting Khutbah
Jumaat focused on the Islamic shit ----CENTRAL TEACHING---which is the bible is a fraud,--------what a joke---the Koran cannot stand up ----so the only way to present the shit which is islam is to declare the bible a FRAUD

In fact I have been told by muslims (those that toxoid claims I do not know) that even the dead sea scrolls are a FRAUD)

 

[irosie91]

What's very apparent is that Muslim75 just posts what his beliefs are about Islam and doesn't attack any other posters.

But the usual haters show up and viciously attack Muslim75 instead of engaging in dialogue or a debate. .....

Muslim75 has every right in the world to post his beliefs. No one is keeping him from doing it, dumbfuck.

Ahhh, good...own your hate.

Let it flow through you and make you stronger

Not hate. A statement of fact.

Thank you for playing. Getting musty in your mom and dad's basement these days?

Thanks for that little glimpse into your insecurities. I love projectons

try again ---toxoid--------lying pig----if there is anyone on this board who employs the ego defense "projection" ---it is you---a filthy lying pig who DECLARES that other people are lying------a device very commonly employed by filthy lying megalomaniacal scum

 

[Hollie]

No. I criticize the obvious inconsistencies and plain old flaws in both K'uran and Hadith. There's a difference.
Are you intelligent enough to see that difference.

All I see you do is call names and spread lies and rabid hate.

Truth........

Strange. This coming from the wannabe convert who litters threads with his "Juden" hurling.

Strange, coming from a wannabe who uses his politico-religious ideology to promote his own hatreds. How convenient that the religion you converted to has a built-in mechanism for Jooooooo hatreds.

Truth........

 

[irosie91]

I speak from the traditional knowledge in Islam.

Jesus taught to have great consideration for the wisdom one teaches to one's students. Wisdom should be taught only according to the student's ability to understand. The student should not be taught what he can not understand. To Jesus, wisdom is most precious, and whoso knows it as futile is greatly vile.

I have read both the Koran and the New Testament. I do not remember anything in either regarding jesus making a comment about "student's ability"-- Jesus did say----
"cast not pearls before swine"--------it was a very commonly used adage in his time-----by Pharisees.-----it refers to the danger of trying to teach scum like you about the wisdom of
the philosophers. The only information we have today about
that which Jesus actually said-----is in the New Testament----the rapist pig never met him

 

[irosie91]

I speak from the traditional knowledge in Islam.

Jesus taught to have great consideration for the wisdom one teaches to one's students. Wisdom should be taught only according to the student's ability to understand. The student should not be taught what he can not understand. To Jesus, wisdom is most precious, and whoso knows it as futile is greatly vile.

I have read both the Koran and the New Testament. I do not remember anything in either regarding jesus making a comment about "student's ability"-- Jesus did say----
"cast not pearls before swine"--------it was a very commonly used adage in his time-----by Pharisees.-----it refers to the danger of trying to teach scum like you about the wisdom of
the philosophers. The only information we have today about
that which Jesus actually said-----is in the New Testament----the rapist pig never met him

No. I criticize the obvious inconsistencies and plain old flaws in both K'uran and Hadith. There's a difference.
Are you intelligent enough to see that difference.

All I see you do is call names and spread lies and rabid hate.

Truth........

Strange. This coming from the wannabe convert who litters threads with his "Juden" hurling.

Strange, coming from a wannabe who uses his politico-religious ideology to promote his own hatreds. How convenient that the religion you converted to has a built-in mechanism for Jooooooo hatreds.

Truth........

He is not the only one------conversion to islam is not only
prevalent in jails-----there are many cases of---ACTING THE ROLE OF JIHADIST on release

 

[irosie91]

No. I criticize the obvious inconsistencies and plain old flaws in both K'uran and Hadith. There's a difference.
Are you intelligent enough to see that difference.

All I see you do is call names and spread lies and rabid hate.

Truth........

Strange. This coming from the wannabe convert who litters threads with his "Juden" hurling.

Strange, coming from a wannabe who uses his politico-religious ideology to promote his own hatreds. How convenient that the religion you converted to has a built-in mechanism for Jooooooo hatreds.

Truth........

The "JUDEN" hurling is what muslims do (the ones toxoid
claims I do not know) Expletives of the most vulgar kind
make up the intellectual chatter of muslims. Long ago I used to know the filth in even URDU-----but I do recall it
in Arabic and continue to be treated to it in public places in
my city------the most vulgar emerges from behind the black
veils of black robe veiled sluts--------toxoid----you got a comment? I did not actually learn it from them----I learned it from more genteel educated muslims

 

[irosie91]

PS even though I did socialize with muslims from Iran----
I never picked up any Farsi vulgarities-----but most of my
"involvement" with Iranian muslims took place long ago---
before 1979-----before that country went nuts over the ayatoilets

 

[irosie91]

He is just here to spread Islamic propaganda, and he does not answer anything that shows the Quran is false. .

And what propaganda and indoctrination have you yourself succumbed to, that you would spend so much time here focused against Islam and the Quran? How much of those opinions are truly your own? Why not just ignore it and discuss a religion that you actually resonate with, if anything?

The terms "true" or "false" are irrelevant when describing the Bible or the Quran as a whole. You either resonate with it or you don't. You either feel Naturally drawn to its culture and teachings, or you don't. You either understand the deeper message, or you don't. You either allow the religion to help you grow closer to God, or you don't.

I can be a rather twisted person at times, but when it comes to religion, I would encourage people to show more respect all around, especially among people of various religions who worship the same God. I am a "Pagan" of my own design and I still worship the same God as Christians and Muslims and Jews and Catholics and even certain other Pagans, and thus, I maintain a certain level of profound respect for their religions and Holy Books regardless of how they feel about me... even as the majority of them feel that I deserve death or Hell.


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You did notice the 9/11 attack on the twin towers ? You are aware of the current attacks in Iraq and Syria where the so called Islamic state is killing people if they do not convert to Islam?

There is a war going on between the free world and Islamic fanatics, and I take the position that I am capable of seeing some of what is wrong with the Quran, and I consider it my duty to undermine this false doctrine.
Most of what I have posted is my own writings on the Quran.

I cannot respect a book such as the Quran which undermines the peaceful message given by Jesus and promotes tribalism and war. I consider the world has one too many religions and its name is Islam. It is all evil lies about God and it needs to be undermined until there is no more Islam. I don't care if Muslims become Christians or atheists, or anything else. But I object to them fighting us all in the way of Allah.

Then prepare to spend the rest of your days hating on Islam, because no human alive will ever live to see it obliterated from this world.

In other words, you are already defeated in this personal crusade of yours against Islam. It's not even a fight, because you are incapable of taking down a religion that powerful. Why not spend your time on greater, more reasonable endeavors and direct your focus on goals that are actually attainable?

Besides...

You say the Quran "undermines the peaceful message of Jesus", a message that you obviously do not seem to embrace yourself, otherwise you wouldn't spend so much time and effort hating on Islam. The reality is, you hardly any different than they are... except that they actually go out and cull the opposition of their religion, which is far more effective than endlessly and pointlessly speaking out against it on the Internet.

There are now more Muslims than Christians who are prepared to kill and die in the name of God...

I have great respect for that.

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Do you also support the videos of beheadings of innocent people that Isis are fond of posting. I have not watched the last few because I do not want that sickening image in my head, because I watched the Daniel Pearl beheading years ago and I have never forgotten it. A British Muslim stood on his head and sawed through his throat with a knife. More than five hundred British Muslims have gone to join Isis and fight to create a giant Islamic state.
Britain is sending troops back to Iraq to fight Isis and I support that. We are at war, and now we know which side you are on.

It's partly because of false assumptions we make about some teachings to be found in K'uran and Hadith.

"Salaam" means anything but peace. It means "submission of Allah" and islamists feel they have the right to force their "peace" on others.

Add a healthy dose of "Takkiya" into the mix (the license to lie like a rug if it means you can kill non-believers) and "Jizya" (the believe that you can impose inhumane poll taxes on non- believers in order to make their life a living hell) and we can see very clearly that ISIS bastards are actually not the exceptions. They are literally doing exactly what K'uran and Hadith say.

Islamists also claim that they do not kill "innocents", but many westerners don't bother to ask for a definition of "innocents" and will be surprised to find out that all non-believers are automatically not innocent.

The K'uran teaches it's adherents to treat non-believers like "Kuffar" (lower animals). I mean, what in the fuck kind of Religion teaches inhumanity of this sort and expects to be taken seriously.

The good news is that since the K'uran is obviously not the real and inspired word of the most holy, one day that crappy book will perish.

the word "salaam" like the word "shalom"-----is from the three letter root "S (h)" "L" "M" ------in semitic languages--------it actually means something like
"fulfillment" referring to a kind of "good state of affairs"
The word precedes Judalsm and islam as religions--------playing games with words---------really accomplishes very little IMHO. The meanings of words ARE important----but
one does not get there by playing games with them.

as muslims use the word "ISLAM" it is more like an
ideology which is itself a "god" -------a negative comment about "ISLAM" is blasphemy ----a little joke about "ISLAM" is blasphemy------blasphemy from the mouth of a
KAFFIR justifies murder in shariah law. If you hang around
with muslims -----you will hear the phrase "FIGHT FOR ISLAM"----------I have hanged with Christians, Jews,, Hindus---and sundry others and never heard anyone say
"FIGHT FOR HINDUISM"-----or 'judaism' or 'christianity' '
or 'buddhism' etc etc

over to you, toxoid.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Who is "toxoid"?

 

[irosie91]

Who is "toxoid"?

toxoid ----is a denatured bacteria poison----It is uses as antigen
to excite an immune response. The denatured poison does not
kill the patient into whom it is injected---but does make him
resistant to the un-denatured poison-----IMMUNOLOGICALLY---
a kinda WANNABEE DEFANGED DANGEROUS POISON

 

[toxicmedia]

My wedding wasn't a "Muslim wedding" per se...but everyone on my wife's side were Muslims, and we had it in Istanbul following many traditions.

As far as dancing, jokes, and laughter, there was plenty of that on the last of 3 days. The ceremony itself was in the afternoon on the first day, a little out of order but that's the only day the justice of the peace could come to the house.

The first day was the family getting together, drinking quite a bit, and the second day was me an the boys, getting a haircut and playing cards, while my wife and her friends all gabbed and did this thing with Henna. The third day was where the whole neighborhood showed up, and we sat in this public meeting hall while everyone came by and took pictures and visited with us. Liquor isn't illegal in Instanbul, where 95% of the people are Sunni Muslim.

Honestly...you should get to know a Muslim, and try to get some first hand experience with them.

You'd be as surprised as I was about how similar they are to us in spite of how righty media portrays them.

Try again TOXOID I have both worked and socialized with muslims for more than 45 years-----a few of whom were turks------I have never met a TURK-----muslim, christian or jew----who did not drink alcohol. HOWEVER---I have met many muslims who never drink alcohol at all and DISDAIN
it and anyone who drinks-------Istanbul is to Turkey like
Teheran is to Iran------both jews who fled Tehran and muslims from Teheran ---do drink I have a brother-in-law born in
Turkey----jew. He drinks too. It was NOT the MUSLIMS from Teheran who put the AYATOILETS into power----and I
very strongly doubt that it is the muslims of ISTANBUL---who will force the stink of shariah on Turkey-----the masses which keep Erdogan in power -----will do it. Henna is a dye----
it is a middle east custom to paint designs with the stuff on
one's hands at a wedding------not particularly Islamic. I believe hindus do it as a general beauty thing ----on hands and feet-----very intricate designs--------middle east thing---like lining the eyes with black '"khol" Hindus do that too.

There is nothing that YOU can tell me about muslims
drink. Being familiar with muslims in Istanbul is not
a credential

If I had a dollar for every Muslim hater who has told me they worked and socialized with muslims for any length of time I'd be rich, and I almost never believe them when they say crap like you do.

What happens is they realize everything they know about Muslims came from Fox News or some other even worse type of anti Muslim web site...then they make up stories about how they know Muslims.

For some reason all these people ignore the fact that I've been to Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

All the people I know who've been to those countries, except parts of Iran that I never went to, do not hate Muslims like you do. I made American, Canadian, Israeli, and British friends while I was there, and we keep in touch.

The only way to cultivate the hatred and intolerance for Islam you display, is to NOT know Muslims.

Islam Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

educate yourself you liberal fool.

Oh great, another person who has never lived with Muslims, or been to the middle east telling me about Muslims.

Don't even bother making up some lie about how you know a bunch of them. The only thing you know is third hand crap that somebody else tells you. I'd bet if they met you they'd be overjoyed they found anther angry loser to carry their water

toxoid is another lump of shit who walked thru a bazaar in Istanbul buying souvenirs made in china-----so he thinks he
KNOWS. a vulgar filthy lying wannabee

Once again...I've spent quite a bit of time living in Syria, and Iraq

I know the truth that you don't know anything about Muslims, and lie about it, obviously hit a nerve.

 

[toxicmedia]

Who is "toxoid"?

Toxoid called Irosie on her BS, and she's pitching a fit.

 

[toxicmedia]

Who is "toxoid"?

toxoid ----is a denatured bacteria poison----It is uses as antigen
to excite an immune response. The denatured poison does not
kill the patient into whom it is injected---but does make him
resistant to the un-denatured poison-----IMMUNOLOGICALLY---
a kinda WANNABEE DEFANGED DANGEROUS POISON

Your lies are whats really poisonous. And only to you.

 

[toxicmedia]

What's very apparent is that Muslim75 just posts what his beliefs are about Islam and doesn't attack any other posters.

But the usual haters show up and viciously attack Muslim75 instead of engaging in dialogue or a debate. .....

Muslim75 has every right in the world to post his beliefs. No one is keeping him from doing it, dumbfuck.

Ahhh, good...own your hate.

Let it flow through you and make you stronger

Not hate. A statement of fact.

Thank you for playing. Getting musty in your mom and dad's basement these days?

Thanks for that little glimpse into your insecurities. I love projectons

It is vulgar for ANYONE who addresses a group of people of varying religions to DECLARE the nonsense of his OWN to
be THE PERFECT one in comparison to others---vulgar for anyone. In fact I was horrified when in a mosque---long ago-------it happened to have been a "GOOD FRIDAY"---the Imam was a visitor from Egypt-----his disgusting Khutbah
Jumaat focused on the Islamic shit ----CENTRAL TEACHING---which is the bible is a fraud,--------what a joke---the Koran cannot stand up ----so the only way to present the shit which is islam is to declare the bible a FRAUD

In fact I have been told by muslims (those that toxoid claims I do not know) that even the dead sea scrolls are a FRAUD)

You just read all that stuff on the internet.

Ever been to Syria, Iraq, or Iran?

 

[irosie91]

Muslim75 has every right in the world to post his beliefs. No one is keeping him from doing it, dumbfuck.

Ahhh, good...own your hate.

Let it flow through you and make you stronger

Not hate. A statement of fact.

Thank you for playing. Getting musty in your mom and dad's basement these days?

Thanks for that little glimpse into your insecurities. I love projectons

It is vulgar for ANYONE who addresses a group of people of varying religions to DECLARE the nonsense of his OWN to
be THE PERFECT one in comparison to others---vulgar for anyone. In fact I was horrified when in a mosque---long ago-------it happened to have been a "GOOD FRIDAY"---the Imam was a visitor from Egypt-----his disgusting Khutbah
Jumaat focused on the Islamic shit ----CENTRAL TEACHING---which is the bible is a fraud,--------what a joke---the Koran cannot stand up ----so the only way to present the shit which is islam is to declare the bible a FRAUD

In fact I have been told by muslims (those that toxoid claims I do not know) that even the dead sea scrolls are a FRAUD)

You just read all that stuff on the internet.

Ever been to Syria, Iraq, or Iran?

I have worked closely with persons NEW the USA from Syria, Iraq and Iran-----over the past, in excess of, 45 years. Persons here in the USA------educated in those countries------here in the USA . Educated people-----young medical school graduates----glad to have someone in the hospitals in which they worked to have someone with whom
to speak-------you have NOTHING on what I know about people and their experiences-----I have confidentiality as a matter of law. A cup of tea in a parlor in Istanbul is not
a credential

 

[irosie91]

Who is "toxoid"?

toxoid ----is a denatured bacteria poison----It is uses as antigen
to excite an immune response. The denatured poison does not
kill the patient into whom it is injected---but does make him
resistant to the un-denatured poison-----IMMUNOLOGICALLY---
a kinda WANNABEE DEFANGED DANGEROUS POISON

Your lies are whats really poisonous. And only to you.

Oh gee-----I explained that which is a TOXOID to schmuck
"toxic" in clear and simple language------he balked and the idiot, sunie endores his shit

 

[Muslim75]

I speak from the knowledge of the saints of Islam.

When Moses came, he announced that a magnificent one and the beloved of God would one day come. That one, through his charisma would somewhat remind of Moses. That one whose coming Moses announced was Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family).

When Jesus came, he wanted to clarify that he was not that one whom Moses talked about. God mentions it in the Qur'an this way:

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad."

Ahmad is another name for Muhammad. When we say Ahmad, we point to Muhammad in heaven. When we say Muhammad, we point to Muhammad on earth. But in any case Muhammad is the generally used name.

Ahmad in English means the most glorious. Muhammad means the most praised.

 

[toxicmedia]

Who is "toxoid"?

toxoid ----is a denatured bacteria poison----It is uses as antigen
to excite an immune response. The denatured poison does not
kill the patient into whom it is injected---but does make him
resistant to the un-denatured poison-----IMMUNOLOGICALLY---
a kinda WANNABEE DEFANGED DANGEROUS POISON

Your lies are whats really poisonous. And only to you.

Oh gee-----I explained that which is a TOXOID to schmuck
"toxic" in clear and simple language------he balked and the idiot, sunie endores his shit

Sunni probably recognizes that my experience leads me to tolerance. Which in spite of your xenophobia, is what everyone I've ever known takes away from living in that region. The recognition that Muslims are not ALL following some demonic religion

I get this all the time when I talk about my time in Turkey, SYRIA, and IRAQ!!!!!!...you can't seem to allow that to sink in.

Anyone who thinks Islam all by itself is a scary thing, hasn't spent time around Muslims, and your hatefull replies are telling.

 

[Statistikhengst]

I speak from the knowledge of the saints of Islam.

When Moses came, he announced that a magnificent one and the beloved of God would one day come. That one, through his charisma would somewhat remind of Moses. That one whose coming Moses announced was Muhammad (peace be upon him and his family).

When Jesus came, he wanted to clarify that he was not that one whom Moses talked about. God mentions it in the Qur'an this way:

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad."

Ahmad is another name for Muhammad. When we say Ahmad, we point to Muhammad in heaven. When we say Muhammad, we point to Muhammad on earth. But in any case Muhammad is the generally used name.

Ahmad in English means the most glorious. Muhammad means the most praised.

Uhuh....

 

[irosie91]

Try again TOXOID I have both worked and socialized with muslims for more than 45 years-----a few of whom were turks------I have never met a TURK-----muslim, christian or jew----who did not drink alcohol. HOWEVER---I have met many muslims who never drink alcohol at all and DISDAIN
it and anyone who drinks-------Istanbul is to Turkey like
Teheran is to Iran------both jews who fled Tehran and muslims from Teheran ---do drink I have a brother-in-law born in
Turkey----jew. He drinks too. It was NOT the MUSLIMS from Teheran who put the AYATOILETS into power----and I
very strongly doubt that it is the muslims of ISTANBUL---who will force the stink of shariah on Turkey-----the masses which keep Erdogan in power -----will do it. Henna is a dye----
it is a middle east custom to paint designs with the stuff on
one's hands at a wedding------not particularly Islamic. I believe hindus do it as a general beauty thing ----on hands and feet-----very intricate designs--------middle east thing---like lining the eyes with black '"khol" Hindus do that too.

There is nothing that YOU can tell me about muslims
drink. Being familiar with muslims in Istanbul is not
a credential

If I had a dollar for every Muslim hater who has told me they worked and socialized with muslims for any length of time I'd be rich, and I almost never believe them when they say crap like you do.

What happens is they realize everything they know about Muslims came from Fox News or some other even worse type of anti Muslim web site...then they make up stories about how they know Muslims.

For some reason all these people ignore the fact that I've been to Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

All the people I know who've been to those countries, except parts of Iran that I never went to, do not hate Muslims like you do. I made American, Canadian, Israeli, and British friends while I was there, and we keep in touch.

The only way to cultivate the hatred and intolerance for Islam you display, is to NOT know Muslims.

Islam Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time

educate yourself you liberal fool.

Oh great, another person who has never lived with Muslims, or been to the middle east telling me about Muslims.

Don't even bother making up some lie about how you know a bunch of them. The only thing you know is third hand crap that somebody else tells you. I'd bet if they met you they'd be overjoyed they found anther angry loser to carry their water

toxoid is another lump of shit who walked thru a bazaar in Istanbul buying souvenirs made in china-----so he thinks he
KNOWS. a vulgar filthy lying wannabee

Once again...I've spent quite a bit of time living in Syria, and Iraq

I know the truth that you don't know anything about Muslims, and lie about it, obviously hit a nerve.

Who is "toxoid"?

toxoid ----is a denatured bacteria poison----It is uses as antigen
to excite an immune response. The denatured poison does not
kill the patient into whom it is injected---but does make him
resistant to the un-denatured poison-----IMMUNOLOGICALLY---
a kinda WANNABEE DEFANGED DANGEROUS POISON

Your lies are whats really poisonous. And only to you.

Oh gee-----I explained that which is a TOXOID to schmuck
"toxic" in clear and simple language------he balked and the idiot, sunie endores his shit

Sunni probably recognizes that my experience leads me to tolerance. Which in spite of your xenophobia, is what everyone I've ever known takes away from living in that region. The recognition that Muslims are not ALL following some demonic religion

I get this all the time when I talk about my time in Turkey, SYRIA, and IRAQ!!!!!!...you can't seem to allow that to sink in.

Anyone who thinks Islam all by itself is a scary thing, hasn't spent time around Muslims, and your hatefull replies are telling.

wrong again, many times over, toxoid----I have never denied your statement that you spent time in Turkey and
Syria and Iraq and have never stated "all muslims follow
a demonic religion"- I have never stated anything that
would come close to another of your shitty lies which is
your accusation that I call all muslims bad---and ----
as to the XENOPHOBIA----I did not end up in the homes of
muslims and get invited to this and that event and even to
mosques because I am "xenophobic" (I got invited to hindu events too---me THE "XENOPHOBE" )


YOU have displayed an interesting facet of your personality which is actually VERY ISLAMIC, toxoid. -----in order to
support YOUR POV-----you have no choice but to DECLARE---everything else is a LIE. -----of course the bible is one big LIE----- and all "others" are liars. ----ie --Christians and hindus and most of all jews. Try to cope, Toxoid----
you know virtually nothing----your "experience" is unimpressive -----you are just GRINDING YOUR OWN AXE.

I have something you will never have-----information which is
legally confidential <<< no big deal----but when people know
that their information is legally confidential----and they are talking to a person who by law cannot divulge-----that person
gets to know lots.

You are also very vulgar