JFK: The Smoking Gun...

[paulitician]

Was it a 'Mortal Error? This is another pretty fascinating JFK Conspiracy Theory Doc. You can catch it on Netflix. Let me know what you think. Enjoy.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJFzhbNd1EI]JFK: A Conspiracy Theory - YouTube[/ame]

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Was it a 'Mortal Error? This is another pretty fascinating JFK Conspiracy Theory Doc. You can catch it on Netflix. Let me know what you think. Enjoy.


JFK: The Smoking Gun Trailer - YouTube

No.that book has been debunked.Just another disinfomation agent writer out there trying to confuse things.It wasnt the secret serviceman accidently shooting him.1.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound meaning he ws shot from the front which is why so many thinking americans dont accept the lie that oswald was the lone assassin.2.the film footage never shows him slip and accidently fire off the rifle.just another propaganda piece by another paid government operative.

 

[natstew]

Enough of the JFK smoking gun theories, we all know it was Bush's fault!!

 

[LA RAM FAN]

He was a major player alright thats for sure.He was one of only three people alive that could not remember where they were that day who was old enough to remember.the other two are his good pal and friend Dick Nixon and CIA operative and bay of pigs veteran and watergate burgler E Howad Hunt of course.Both of whom lied of their whereabouts,changing their story many times.

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[paulitician]

Enough of the JFK smoking gun theories, we all know it was Bush's fault!!

Actually...


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[Mad_Cabbie]

Was it a 'Mortal Error? This is another pretty fascinating JFK Conspiracy Theory Doc. You can catch it on Netflix. Let me know what you think. Enjoy.


JFK: The Smoking Gun Trailer - YouTube

No.that book has been debunked.Just another disinfomation agent writer out there trying to confuse things.It wasnt the secret serviceman accidently shooting him.1.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound meaning he ws shot from the front which is why so many thinking americans dont accept the lie that oswald was the lone assassin.2.the film footage never shows him slip and accidently fire off the rifle.just another propaganda piece by another paid government operative.

Sorry dude - the whole conspiracy over this entire tragedy has been debunked. Oswald did it - time to move forward and accept the uninteresting truth.

 

[paulitician]

Was it a 'Mortal Error? This is another pretty fascinating JFK Conspiracy Theory Doc. You can catch it on Netflix. Let me know what you think. Enjoy.


JFK: The Smoking Gun Trailer - YouTube

No.that book has been debunked.Just another disinfomation agent writer out there trying to confuse things.It wasnt the secret serviceman accidently shooting him.1.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound meaning he ws shot from the front which is why so many thinking americans dont accept the lie that oswald was the lone assassin.2.the film footage never shows him slip and accidently fire off the rifle.just another propaganda piece by another paid government operative.

Sorry dude - the whole conspiracy over this entire tragedy has been debunked. Oswald did it - time to move forward and accept the uninteresting truth.

I am pretty skeptical of this particular theory, but i do think there is much more to the JFK assassination.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Was it a 'Mortal Error? This is another pretty fascinating JFK Conspiracy Theory Doc. You can catch it on Netflix. Let me know what you think. Enjoy.


JFK: The Smoking Gun Trailer - YouTube

No.that book has been debunked.Just another disinfomation agent writer out there trying to confuse things.It wasnt the secret serviceman accidently shooting him.1.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound meaning he ws shot from the front which is why so many thinking americans dont accept the lie that oswald was the lone assassin.2.the film footage never shows him slip and accidently fire off the rifle.just another propaganda piece by another paid government operative.

Sorry dude - the whole conspiracy over this entire tragedy has been debunked. Oswald did it - time to move forward and accept the uninteresting truth.

you mean the uninteresting lie.
No YOU need to stop being afraid of the truth and stop going into it seeing only what you WANT to see.

the only thing thats been debunked is that oswald was the lone assassin. if you would actually take the time to watch that st video he posted,you would see for yourself,there is no shread of evidence oswald did it.

You cant refute these facts below that prove there was a conspiracy.

Unlike you,I look at BOTH sides of the coin and actually back up my case.you just post childish one liners without any evidence.

here are the facts that prove there was a conspiracy.

the magic bullet theorists always fall flat on their faces saying oswald was the lone assassin because main facts they cant account for.

1.witnesses saw a gunman behind the fence firing a rifle.2.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound proving a shot came from the front.same as the throut wound.3.if you know anything about forencis,you know that an exit wound is larger than an entrance wound of a bullet.the bullet wound in the back of the head was large, where the wound in the front of the head was very small,his face would not have existed had it come from the back.4.more importantly this cinces it there were multiple shooters is that there were several bullts photographed and found all over the place that could not be linked to oswalds rifle,one in the opposite side of the grassy knoll the opposite of zapruder where and FBI man is seen picking it up putting it in his pocket and walking off,one in the street sign policeman saw and was removed and replaced two days later,one in the curb that was removed and replaced and covered over as well,one in the middle of the street a policeman identified as a bullet,one in the chrome of the limo found and photographed,one in the windshield that forensic experts said was an ENTRANCE shot. the magic bullet theorists have NO ANSWERS for these facts with retarded comebacks like bullshit and crap like that knowing they are cornered.


Here is the proof oswald is innocent as well.

Not only is there DOZENS of evidence that there were multuple shooters,but there is ZERO evidence oswald was involved as well. see the people that say there was a conspiracy,they dont have to try and prove it,there is way too many facts like the ones i mentioned that prove it.Its the job of the magic bullet theorists to try and prove oswald did it and they have zero evidence to prove it.In an honest court of law,he would have been acquited in a heartbeat. Here is why.1..nobody has ever been able to duplicate his miraculous feat of running clear across the 6th floor and down the steps in under 90 seconds.Investigaters tried it,none of them could do it.
2.the first rifle they found was a mauser which looks NOTHING like a mannlicher carcano rifle.the mauser disapearred and was never seen again.
3.no marksmen has ever been able to duplicte oswalds feat.when they tried to duplicate it in 1967,they opened the window up the entire way not partially open as seen in the photos.they also cut down the tress as well because it was blocking the view of their shots and they practiced on NON MOVING TARGETS.
4.nitrate tests on oswalds cheeks tested negative proving he never could have fired the rifle.
5.oswalds palm print did not show up on the rifle until two days later after the FBI had custody of the rifle,enough time to easily lift the print.In fact,the mortician said he found ink on oswalds palm and was outraged about it because he had to clean the body again.
6.photos taken seconds before,during,and after the shooting show nobody in the window.
7.people say he would have been back a ways from the window to take the shot but if that was so,you would see a puff of smoke in the photo like witnesses saw behind the picket fence and you would see some kind of figure as well and a muzzle flash that witnesses ALSO saw behind the picket fence,you dont see ANY of those things in the photo.
8.oswald is innocent.there is zero evidence he was involved.
9.witnesses who gave different version of events different from the governments wound up dying in mysterious deaths.
10.the warren commission altered witness testimonys,a crime itself they should have all gone to jail for.

see unlike you,I can back up my facts that nobody has ever been able to counter.try to debunk them,you cant,nobody ever has been able to.

they are left doing this in defeat everytime.

you might try and get out of that fantasy world and go back to junior high school and take some science classes because you are clearly ignorant on the laws of physics.
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[LA RAM FAN]

No.that book has been debunked.Just another disinfomation agent writer out there trying to confuse things.It wasnt the secret serviceman accidently shooting him.1.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound meaning he ws shot from the front which is why so many thinking americans dont accept the lie that oswald was the lone assassin.2.the film footage never shows him slip and accidently fire off the rifle.just another propaganda piece by another paid government operative.

Sorry dude - the whole conspiracy over this entire tragedy has been debunked. Oswald did it - time to move forward and accept the uninteresting truth.

I am pretty skeptical of this particular theory, but i do think there is much more to the JFK assassination.

the evidence is overwhelming that there were multiple shooters,the evidence is also overwhelming that oswald was innocent.my last post proves it.see YOU i know wont go into it only looking at one side of the coin and look at both sides and will acknowledge my truthful post that proves oswald innocent and there were multiple shooters.

he obviously ditched junior high school science classes because he clearly knows nothing at all about the laws of physics.Every junior high school kid can tell you the laws of physics of his head going backwards if shot from the front,were violated that day.thats one of the many similaritys in 9/11 and jfk,in both cases the laws of physics were violated.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Sorry dude - the whole conspiracy over this entire tragedy has been debunked. Oswald did it - time to move forward and accept the uninteresting truth.

I am pretty skeptical of this particular theory, but i do think there is much more to the JFK assassination.

the evidence is overwhelming that there were multiple shooters,the evidence is also overwhelming that oswald was innocent.my last post proves it.see YOU i know wont go into it only looking at one side of the coin and look at both sides and will acknowledge my truthful post that proves oswald innocent and there were multiple shooters.

he obviously ditched junior high school science classes because he clearly knows nothing at all about the laws of physics.Every junior high school kid can tell you the laws of physics of his head going backwards if shot from the front,were violated that day.thats one of the many similaritys in 9/11 and jfk,in both cases the laws of physics were violated.

Dude, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON? Seriously - "overwhelming" evidence that there were multiple shooters??? Like what???

Thanks for the Neg Rep for - 0 points! Too funny, but to then somehow infer that you handed me my ass ... fucking priceless!!!

OK, Mr. inside job - splain'.

Why do you think that there was more than one shooter???

Oswald was innocent? So innocent that he shot and killed a police officer? OY!

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

JFK assassination film hoax

The wound mistake

The Zapruder film seems to show the front of JFK’s head being blasted open by a shot:

Researchers like Stewart Galanor, who were lucky enough to see the film in the 1960s (at a private screening in the U.S. National Archives), believed that this proved that JFK was killed by a shot coming from in front of him and to his right (from the “grassy knoll”), because his head moves backwards and to his left.

In the same way, when the film was first shown on TV in 1975, people were outraged. The U.S. Government’s story—that one man in a building far behind the President shot him—didn’t make sense. This led the U.S. House of Representatives to create a new Select Committee to investigate the assassination.

But even in the 1960s, researcher David Lifton discovered that the Zapruder film not just gives us confusing information about where the shot came from, but actually makes no sense at all!

Lifton was a graduate in engineering physics. He took the black-and-white copies of the Zapruder film frames, published by the U.S. Government, to Nobel-prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman. He thought that Feynman would conclude, from the laws of physics, that the shot must have come from the front.

Lifton was dismayed when Feynman ignored all of the frames except the ones that show the President just before and just after the impact of the shot:

(These are modern copies of those frames.) Even though Frame 313 is blurred, Feynman was able to measure the position of JFK’s head compared to fixed parts of the limousine (like the handle reflection between the Kennedys and the Connallys).

Feynman found that JFK’s head moved forwards at the moment of impact.

The laws of physics then tell us that the shot must have come from behind!

The backwards movement of the President’s head after Frame 313 then became the mystery. Were there two shots? Could there be some other physics explanation for this strange phenomenon? Did the red spray of blood force his head backwards, like a jet engine? Could his muscles have gone into spasm because of the brain damage?

In 2001, scientists used modern computers to remove as much of the blur from Frame 313 as possible. When the two clear frames are laid on top of each other, there is no doubt at all that JFK’s head moves forward:

The movement was checked by yet another method: Frame 312 was blurred by the same amount as Frame 313, and then the two frames were compared. Again, the President’s head was found to move forwards.

You can also see something remarkable in this comparison: the red spray of blood in Frame 313 is clearly in front of JFK’s head. Indeed, it blocks our view of his wife’s face, which can be fully seen in Frame 312!

This seems to again tell us that the shot came from behind. There is no other way for bloody brain matter to be blasted forwards.

But Lifton made a discovery that, for more than two decades, was so incredible that it was not given much credence: the head wound shown on the Zapruder film does not at all match the wound described by eyewitnesses and the doctors that treated JFK in Dallas!

We can see the problem just by going one more frame forward, to Frame 314:

The Zapruder film is telling us that the whole front-top of JFK’s head gets blasted away! There is a huge crater where his forehead used to be, through which we can again see his wife.

This would make sense, if he was indeed hit by a high-velocity rifle bullet from behind.

There is only one problem with this: everyone who saw the President after the shooting said that his face was not injured or damaged at all!

2.all the dallas doctors said the wound in the back of the head was an EXIT wound proving a shot came from the front.same as the throut wound.

JFK autopsy photographs surfaced in the late 1980s, and showed his face to be completely intact:

Even the skeptics had to agree that either the Zapruder film or the autopsy photos (or both) have to be forgeries.

From the 1970s, Lifton had argued that the bright reddish-white wound which seems to appear and snake up the side of the President’s head, which he called “the blob”, completely disagreed with the descriptions of the head wound given by the doctors and nurses at Dallas’s Parkland Hospital, where the President was taken:

In a thousand-word footnote in his 1980 book, Best Evidence, he argued that this tells us that the Zapruder film has been substantially altered, if not completely forged.

However, Lifton would have to wait nearly a quarter of a century for scientists to prove that he was right.

His hundred-page chapter in The Great Zapruder Film Hoax is a wonderful history of the Zapruder film, and the way it was used to convince the American public, over the past four decades.

JFK assassination film hoax - The wound mistake

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

see unlike you,I can back up my facts that nobody has ever been able to counter.try to debunk them,you cant,nobody ever has been able to.

they are left doing this in defeat everytime.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

9.witnesses who gave different version of events different from the governments wound up dying in mysterious deaths

Here click this link AND ACTUALLY READ IT.

Kennedy Assassination "Mystery Deaths"


The death of Lee Bowers seemed "strange" to Oliver Stone, Geraldo Rivera, and Jim Marrs. David Perry is an insurance investigator by profession, and an assassination buff by avocation. See what he concluded when he investigated this issue.

Another "mysterious" death was that of David Ferrie. Did he commit suicide to avoid being prosecuted for Kennedy's murder by DA Garrison? Was he killed by minions of The Conspiracy? In this essay, Dr. Robert Artwohl discusses Jim Garrison's contention that Ferrie died of an overdose of Proloid, a thyroid medication, and Garrison's apparent mishandling of evidence. Ferrie left two supposed "suicide notes," however on close inspection it's not at all clear they are in fact suicide notes. The official autopsy produced a clear finding of natural death.

Eladio del Valle, a Cuban who died on the same night as David Ferrie, is another of those "mystery deaths." Conspiracy books imply that he had all sorts of "links" to the assassination, but there are some other things about him that make his death seem not so mysterious. Click here for documents on del Valle. Conspiracy books never tell you, but the Dade County authorities indicted a man for del Valle's murder. More information can be found on Gordon Winslow's web site.

Dorothy Kilgallen, a reporter and quiz show personality, is always among those on the "mysterious deaths" lists. Supposedly, she was about to "blow the lid" off the conspiracy. In this essay, historian Eric Paddon does not discuss the circumstances of her death (which the medical examiner didn't consider sinister), but rather the question of whether she actually knew anything that might threaten a supposed conspiracy. Had she learned something new about the assassination, or was she just repeating standard conspiracy buff stuff? How might Kilgallen have gotten critical information that would have allowed her to "blow" the conspiracy? According to Gary Wills and Ovid Demaris, (Jack Ruby, page 72):

Conspiratorialists of the wilder variety believe that Dorothy Kilgallen had a private interview [with Jack Ruby], one that caused her death. This tete-a-tete never took place: she leaned over the rail and talked to Jack in the open courtroom during a break in the proceedings. Lawyer Joe Tonahill, who hoped to collaborate with Miss Kilgallen on a book, arranged the brief exchange, and was present at it.
But the important thing, as John Leyden has pointed out, is that Kilgallen didn't die "mysteriously" until 20 months after the interview. Darn patient reporter who can sit on a big story that long.
Colonel Daniel Marvin told an explosive story in the most recent installment of The Men Who Killed Kennedy. He claimed to have been asked by a CIA operative to kill a supposed autopsy witness named William B. Pitzer. If true, it's hard evidence of a conspiracy "clean-up squad" killing witnesses. Researchers Robin Palmer and Allan Eaglesham have worked closely with Marvin, and have come to doubt his story. Their "Letter to Dr. J.D. Rose" lays out the details. Eaglesham, who initially believed the death was "suspicious," has now concluded that it wasn't. A diligent and honest researcher, he continued investigating even after reaching that conclusion, and that research solidified his view that the death was indeed a suicide.



Umpteen Trillion to One Odds?

The conspiracy literature occasionally still quotes a supposed study done by the London Sunday Times which found that "the odds against these [assassination] witnesses being dead by February 1967, were one hundred thousand trillion to one." The House Select Committee on Assassinations asked the newspaper where they got that number. The paper replied with the following letter.
The Editor has passed me your letter of 25th April.
Our piece about the odds against the deaths of the Kennedy witnesses was, I regret to say, based on a careless journalistic mistake and should not have been published. This was realized by The Sunday Times' editorial staff after the first edition — the one which goes to the United States and which I believe you have — had gone out, and later editions were amended.

There was no question of our actuary having got his answer wrong. It was simply that we asked him the wrong question. He was asked what were the odds against 15 named people out of the population of the United States dying within a short period of time to which he replied — correctly — that they were very high. However, if one asks what are the odds against 15 of those included in the Warren Commission index dying within a given period, the answer is, of course, that they are much lower. Our mistake was to treat the reply to the former question as if it dealt with the latter — hence the fundamental error in our first edition report, for which we apologize.

None of the editorial staff involved in this story can remember the name of the actuary we consulted, but in view of what happened you will, I imagine, agree that his identity is hardly material.

Yours sincerely,
Antony Whitaker,
Legal Manager.
(4 HSCA 464-65)


George deMohrenschildt was one of Lee Oswald's most interesting friends. His testimony before the Warren Commission said nothing that suggested a conspiracy, but in later years he started to give a much more "interesting" account. DeMohrenschildt's suicide in 1977 has seemed quite "suspicious" to conspiracy buffs. The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office Death Investigation on deMohrenschildt's passing is extremely detailed. See whether there is any evidence of murder.

John M. Crawford is yet another of those people on the "mystery deaths" lists. Did he really have the "connections" to Wes Frazier and Jack Ruby that conspiracy authors claim? See David Perry's assessment of this case.

What happens when a real investigator (Jacqueline Hess of the House Select Committee) tackles the issue of "mysterious deaths" and enlists the services of people who specialize in working out the probability that any particular person will die in a year, or two, or ten? In other words, enlists the service of actuaries? Hess' testimony before the House Select Committee outlines the results of her investigation.

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

8.oswald is innocent.there is zero evidence he was involved.

Lee Harvey Oswald murdered President John F. Kennedy without the assistance of others in November of 1963 in Dallas, Texas, USA.

The evidence against Lee H. Oswald includes these subtle tidbits:

1.) Lee Harvey Oswald owned the rifle found on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository on Friday afternoon, November 22, 1963.

2.) Oswald owned the handgun that was shown to have been used in the murder of Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit.

3.) Oswald was positively identified by witness Howard L. Brennan as the person firing a rifle at JFK on 11/22/63. .... And to believe that Brennan was "influenced" by TV and newspaper reports showing Oswald before Brennan positively identified LHO, we must remember that Brennan's INITIAL description of the killer very closely matched Oswald, given to police within minutes of the shooting (prior to 12:44 PM).

Is this just another in a series of "coincidences" that has Brennan's man in the window closely matching Oswald's description? Yes, I'll admit, the description was "general" in nature, and could fit thousands of men in the world. But out of ALL the possible descriptions he COULD have offered up to describe the person he saw in that window (even "general" descriptions), what description does he give just minutes after the assassination (and well BEFORE he ever laid eyes on Lee Oswald)? --- He describes a person who COULD INDEED BE LEE HARVEY OSWALD.

Brennan COULD, conceivably, have seen a fat black man, with a beard, 5-feet-2, 200 pounds in that window. But, instead, he sees a slender white male, about 30, 5-feet-10, approx. 165 pounds. That description isn't a dead-on match for Oswald, no. But it's close enough so that LHO certainly isn't ELIMINATED from the pack when it comes to this description.

BTW, concerning Brennan's "age" bracket of Oswald (30, or "early 30s") -- IMO, Oswald looked older than 24. (And he had just turned 24 one month prior to the assassination.) Oswald always seemed much older than 24 to me, in both looks and demeanor. Possibly, when it came to his looks, Howard Brennan agreed with me on that.

4.) Marina Oswald admits to having taken pictures of Lee with these weapons on his person, which (all by itself) validates the "Backyard Photographs". But even if conspiracists wish to think that Marina is a liar, there's the fact that the HSCA [House Select Committee on Assassinations] panel of photo experts vouched for the backyard pictures (and the autopsy photos and X-rays, to boot). ....

AUTHENTICATING THE BACKYARD PHOTOS

AND THE AUTOPSY PHOTOS & X-RAYS

5.) Buell Wesley Frazier observed Oswald take a package into the Book Depository Building on the morning of November 22nd, 1963. .... Frazier said (via his 11/22/63 affidavit): "I saw him go in the back door at the Loading Dock of the building that we work in, and he still had the package under his arm."

6.) Oswald's claim of "curtain rods" within the package cannot be supported at all. His room needed no curtains, nor rods, and no such rods were ever found in the TSBD or at his residence at 1026 N. Beckley Avenue in Oak Cliff.

7.) Oswald was seen working on the Depository's sixth floor that morning. LHO even asked a co-worker (Charles Givens) to send an elevator back up to him on the sixth floor shortly before the assassination. This fact, of course, doesn't nearly prove Oswald was guilty of a crime; but what it does do is place him on the Death Floor (alone) a short time (approximately 35 minutes) before Kennedy's assassination. This fact, too, is a solid piece of often-overlooked or scoffed-at circumstantial evidence.

8.) Oswald's palmprint [Warren Commission Exhibit #637] is found on his Mannlicher-Carcano rifle after the assassination. .... But, of course, this print is really just a "bonus" for the DPD in linking LHO to the weapon. Because even without it, it's glaringly obvious that the weapon was Oswald's.

It was proven that the alias "A.J. Hidell" was actually Oswald himself; and the order form from Klein's Sporting Goods to purchase the mail-order rifle was positively proven to have been in Oswald's handwriting, and sent to a Dallas post-office box that was used by him.

Obviously, just LHO's owning the rifle doesn't prove he pulled the trigger. But doesn't just plain ordinary garden-variety logic dictate (with a pretty good percentage of probability) that it was the owner of said weapon, a Mr. Lee H. Oswald, that fired the shots on November 22?

The alternative is to believe that Oswald, for some unknown reason, handed over his Carcano to someone else for the purpose of using it. Why would he knowingly have done this idiotic act, knowing full well what might be the implications of doing so?

As another "alternative" to the obvious Occam's Razor solution to the rifle topic, some theorists like to pretend that Oswald's rifle was stolen by evil conspirators while the weapon was being stored in Ruth Paine's garage during the autumn of 1963. Of course, as with all conspiracy theories surrounding the JFK case, this one too doesn't have anything of a concrete nature to hold it up.

9.) Not ONE SPECK of any bullets/bullet fragments/bullet shells OTHER THAN THOSE COMING FROM OSWALD'S 6.5-MILLIMETER MANNLICHER-CARCANO RIFLE were discovered anywhere in Dealey Plaza, the limousine, the TSBD, Parkland Hospital, or in the victims.

This item, to me, is simply impossible for conspiracy advocates to overcome, IF there had been (as some claim) up to 3 firing teams and 4 to 10 shots fired at JFK on November 22nd. For, HOW could every single scrap of ballistics evidence be completely eradicated from the two (or more!) non-Oswald weapons almost immediately after the event? Couldn't have been accomplished by even Kreskin.

Plus: This massive task of removing all non-Oswald wounds and bullets would most certainly have had to include the many doctors who worked on both the President and wounded Texas Governor John B. Connally at Parkland Hospital.

Plus, it would include the multitude of people who observed the body at Bethesda during President Kennedy's autopsy (unless you subscribe to the totally-implausible accounts of body-altering and all that business aboard Air Force One, or elsewhere, before the body got to Washington. Again, even Kreskin would be amazed by such incredible sleight-of-hand).

ALL ballistic evidence was traced back to being consistent with the weapon owned by Lee Oswald. The probability of this occurring IF there were multiple guns firing at the motorcade is probably so low to be considered virtually impossible.

10.) The majority of Dealey Plaza witnesses said shots came from behind the President, in the direction of the School Book Depository Building.

In addition, an even larger percentage of witnesses said they heard EXACTLY three shots fired. No more, no less. And three spent shells (co-incidentally?) were found in the Sniper's Nest.

I also find it extremely interesting (and quite telling) that virtually EVERY SINGLE ONE (if not 100%) of the newsmen and reporters riding in the motorcade in Dealey Plaza, who were in a position to immediately report the shooting to the world via media outlets (radio, television, and newswire services), heard EXACTLY THREE SHOTS FIRED. Precisely the number that the "plotters" NEED to have Oswald firing in the Depository.

This would include Merriman Smith, Jack Bell, Pierce Allman, Jay Watson, and Jerry Haynes (among still others who reported "3 Shots" to a TV and radio audience before 1:00 PM on November 22nd).

Do conspiracy theorists think that all of these various reporters and newsmen were just being nice to the evil plotters by cooperating with their "Three-Shots-Needed" plot/plan? An odd "coincidence" if there had really been 4 to 10 shots fired in Dealey Plaza that Friday. Don't conspiracists think ANY of the reporters just might have heard a DIFFERENT number (other than "3") if the plot involved so many more shots?

11.) Oswald makes an unusual trip to Irving on Thursday, November 21, 1963, to retrieve his "curtain rods". His rifle is found missing from Ruth Paine's garage the following day.

But, interestingly, some curtain rods, which Mrs. Paine testified she DID have in her garage prior to the assassination (via 1986 questioning of her by Vincent Bugliosi during the TV Docu-Trial "On Trial: Lee Harvey Oswald"), were STILL IN HER GARAGE AFTER NOVEMBER 22.

Plus: Never ONCE did Ruth Paine or Marina Oswald hear Lee Oswald mention anything at all about "curtain rods" during his surprise Thursday visit to Irving, Texas.

Don't you think he might have at least MENTIONED the "rods" to either woman if the only reason for his Irving visit was to pick up said rods -- especially seeing as how it was Mrs. Paine's house, not Oswald's?

12.) Oswald left behind, presumably for wife Marina, his wedding ring and just about every dime he had to his name ($170), on the morning of 11/22/63. Logic dictates that he felt he may not return.

13.) Oswald was the only Depository employee known to have been INSIDE the Depository Building at the time of the assassination to leave work prematurely on Friday, November 22nd. Why do you suppose this was? The day was only half over.

Plus: Oswald's reason for ducking out of work at 12:33 PM is extremely weak -- not to menion downright prescient on his part. For HOW, three minutes after a shooting that he supposedly knew NOTHING about (what with him supposedly being in the lunchroom eating lunch at the time), could Oswald have possibly known for a fact that TSBD Superintendent Roy Truly (or Oswald's immediate supervisor, Bill Shelley) would spring everybody for the day due to the commotion caused by the shooting, which is exactly the convenient excuse he gave to police after his arrest?

If Oswald was telling the whole truth every step of the way on November 22, he would have had NO knowledge that any shots would have come from HIS building (the TSBD) to cause Mr. Truly to let everyone go due to THAT building being the source of gunfire.

Oswald also, if he's not the liar I know him to be, would not really have known much of anything about the President's shooting (certainly not from an EYEWITNESS standpoint, since the beloved Oswald was supposedly located on the first or second floor of the building eating his lunch when the assassination took place), although Mrs. Robert Reid DID tell Oswald on his way out of the building that "the President has been shot".

Plus: Who would want to LEAVE such an exciting (albeit very sad) scene like that right after a Presidential shooting? An average Joe would want to stick around and rubber-neck and see what the hell had happened. Does Oswald do this? No. He doesn't stay around the exciting scene at all. He evidently couldn't care less, because he leaves within THREE MINUTES of the shooting.

He doesn't talk to anyone (that we know of), except Pierce Allman or Bob MacNeil, when one (or perhaps both) of those newsmen asked Oswald where he/(they) could find a telephone.

In short: Oswald's leaving his workplace without a truly valid and believable reason to do so at 12:33 is solid circumstantial evidence of his guilt. He WANTED to leave, fairly obviously, before he was caught.

Addendum:

"The committee [House Select Committee on Assassinations] found that while most of the depository employees were outside of the building at the time of the assassination and returned inside afterwards, Oswald did the reverse; he was inside before the assassination, and afterward he went outside. That Oswald left the building within minutes of the assassination was significant. Every other depository employee either had an alibi for the time of the assassination or returned to the building immediately thereafter. Oswald alone neither remained nor had an alibi." -- HSCA Final Report; Page 59

14.) Oswald, in flight, shoots and kills Dallas patrolman J.D. Tippit on 10th Street in the Dallas suburb of Oak Cliff. Multiple witnesses confirm it was Oswald who shot Officer Tippit.

In the Tippit case, are we truly to accept the minority number of people (which is a minority of one, Mrs. Acquilla Clemmons) who stated "It was a larger man" or "There were two people", rather than believe the vast majority of witnesses who claimed they saw Oswald kill Tippit or flee the scene of the murder immediately after the shooting?

15.) WHY does Oswald kill Officer Tippit IF he's innocent of another crime just 45 minutes earlier in Dealey Plaza?

Answer: He would have no such reason to do so. If the Tippit shooting isn't one of the biggest reasons to shout from the rooftops "Oswald Shot JFK!", then I don't know what would be.

16.) Oswald, just days after acquiring his Carcano weapon, attempts to murder retired General Edwin Walker in Dallas, on April 10, 1963. Marina Oswald herself testifies that "Lee told me...he just shot Walker".

Another key fact surrounding Oswald and his killing of JFK is the Walker murder attempt, as I think any reasonable person looking at the case objectively would concur. For, it displays in Oswald a definite tendency toward violent action on his part during the months leading up to November 22nd.

To me, it's not a wild stretch of one's imagination to think that if this guy is willing to bump off Walker, then he might just set his sights a little higher when the perfect opportunity presents itself seven months later.

The fact that Oswald was a kind of loner, oddball, and rejected authority at just about every turn in life cannot be underestimated when talking of motive. He admitted that he hated America (in general terms) for not being able to just come and go as he pleased to Russia and Cuba whenever it pleased him in the months just prior to November 22.

As a former Marine acquaintance of Oswald's once said: "He always thought he was a little better than everyone else." This statement speaks volumes, in my opinion, when gazing into Oswald's background and possible motive in the JFK murder.

17.) It was PROVEN, no matter what anybody wants to believe to the contrary, that three shots could be fired in the allotted timeframe from Oswald's rifle (and with good accuracy). The probability that Oswald had, in fact, approx. 8.4 seconds to accomplish the shooting further increases the likelihood that Lee could have performed the deed.

If the first (missed) shot hit a tree branch and ricocheted to strike James Tague by the underpass at approx. Frame 160 of the Zapruder film (as I believe did happen), then the total time between shots #1 and #3 increases to more than eight seconds, much more than the minimum required time to get off the three shots.

18.) Try as the conspiracy kooks might, the Single-Bullet Theory [SBT] has still not been proven to be an impossibility. The Zapruder film shows that the SBT is more-than-likely the correct scenario of events that day.

Kennedy and Connally are reacting to their initial wounds at virtually an identical time, just after Zapruder frame 224. Unfortunately, that damn Stemmons sign is blocking our view during what might be a critical point on the film. It can therefore never be determined by anybody whether JFK was reacting to his throat/neck wound at a frame earlier than Z224. But, based on the available evidence, the SBT (judging by the reactions of the two victims in the limo) most certainly cannot be said to be false.

19.) While viewing the Zapruder Film, I cannot see how anybody can say that the BACK of President Kennedy's head is blown away as a result of the head shot. It seems quite obvious while watching and freezing the film at various post-Z313 frames, that the entire rear portion of JFK's head remains intact throughout the shooting.

The RIGHT-FRONT portion of his head is blown apart. Isn't it obvious that it's the FRONTAL portion of his skull that is being displaced by the swiftly-moving projectile? And if so, doesn't this demonstrate the actions of an object that's just been struck from BEHIND, not from the front?

In addition (and probably more importantly), the Zapruder Film, when viewed in super-slow-motion -- LIKE THIS CLIP -- verifies beyond question that President Kennedy's head moves FORWARD (not backward) at the critical MOMENT OF IMPACT, indicating that the fatal bullet that hit his head came from BEHIND him and not from the front or right-front of JFK's limousine.

Also -- If JFK had been shot from the infamous "Grassy Knoll" (which was located to the right-front of Kennedy's car at the time he was shot), why wasn't there any damage to the LEFT side of President Kennedy's head? Instead, the left side of his head remained completely intact and undamaged, as can easily be seen in this autopsy photograph HERE.

20.) It was also proven that Oswald could have indeed travelled, in 90 seconds or less, the distance across the sixth floor of the TSBD and descended the four flights of stairs in time to have been seen by policeman Marrion L. Baker on the building's second floor. [See Warren Commission Report; Page 152 -- HERE.]

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I have no doubt that the many conspiracy theorists, who claim that Oswald had nothing whatsoever to do with the events of 11/22/63, could provide a lengthy list of their own, favoring (in their view) theories such as: "Oswald Was Framed", "Oswald Was A Patsy", or "Oswald Was A Figment Of Everyone's Imagination And Was Never Even In Dallas During His Lifetime". I'm sure the conspiracy-happy people of the world would have no trouble denouncing my views as "More Warren Commission-related B.S.!"

However, while compiling such a "conspiracy" list and rejecting the vast array of evidence that convincingly shows that a Mr. Oswald pulled that trigger, I think it might be wise to ask this question ..... IS IT EVEN REMOTELY POSSIBLE THAT OSWALD COULD HAVE COMMITTED THIS CRIME ALONE?! (And every bit of evidence that has been unearthed to this point has shown that it WAS indeed possible for Lee Oswald to have performed this task.)

And if the answer to the above question is even a hesitant "Yes" amongst conspiracy theorists, doesn't that, by definition (at least partly in a CTer's mind) validate the belief of Oswald's lone participation in the JFK assassination?

For, aren't hard facts and evidence always more believable than wild speculation and conjecture? And aren't many/most/all conspiracy theories created out of just that -- speculation?

LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S SOLE GUILT -- POINT-BY-POINT

 

[whitehall]

The problem for the JFK conspiracy fans is that they desperately want ti to be a "right wing" assassination but sadly Lee Oswald was a left winger. The real conspiracy is why Oswald was allowed (welcomed?) back into the US in the coldest part of the Cold War after he renounced his citizenship and defected to Russia.

 

[Rockland]

Thanks for the Neg Rep for - 0 points!

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

Um ... 9-11 guy - you're up. How about any kind of rebuttal too what I have just presented?

 

[paulitician]

The problem for the JFK conspiracy fans is that they desperately want ti to be a "right wing" assassination but sadly Lee Oswald was a left winger. The real conspiracy is why Oswald was allowed (welcomed?) back into the US in the coldest part of the Cold War after he renounced his citizenship and defected to Russia.

That is true. He was a self-avowed Marxist. His life really was a bit of a mystery though. Another good Doc on the subject is 'Killing Oswald.' It raises some very interesting questions. Check it out.


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