Zone1 Jon Stewart questions the transgender protections in Arkansas

[Tommy Tainant]

America- Land of the free, as long as you do exactly what we say.

This law seems to be an authoritarian intrusion into basic rights to privacy. Its unamerican.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You have nothing apart from prejudice.

Well, that, and science. Real science, not the absurd mockery of “science” to which you cling.

 

[Concerned American]

And yyet the medical establishment,The Governer, the federal court, the ACLU and the parents sit ith him.
Who is sitting with you ?

You haven't shown any of that. Get something that is at least as current as your idiotic comedic post.

 

[Concerned American]

This law seems to be an authoritarian intrusion into basic rights to privacy. Its unamerican.

You don't have a clue as to anything American. You keep clinging to that little rock in the ocean. Seems your government has died with the queen. Did they bury your treasury with her?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Lets see the science.

It really is up to you to support your claim that little boys need to be castrated to keep them from killing themselves.

But, as my great uncle did in WWII, I'll be glad to to for you what you cannot do for yourself:

If you want to read more, here is an excellent and well-sourced article about it:

Sex Reassignment Doesn’t Work. Here Is the Evidence.

Sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially.

www.heritage.org

 

[gtopa1]

I sure do miss the days of my youth.

The fads back then were things like the hula hoop, and the yo yo instead of mutilating children's genitals.

Doncha know; a trans kid is the LATEST in Libtard fashion accessories.

Greg

 

[Tommy Tainant]

It really is up to you to support your claim that little boys need to be castrated to keep them from killing themselves.

But, as my great uncle did in WWII, I'll be glad to to for you what you cannot do for yourself:

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If you want to read more, here is an excellent and well-sourced article about it:

Sex Reassignment Doesn’t Work. Here Is the Evidence.

Sex “reassignment” doesn’t work. It’s impossible to “reassign” someone’s sex physically, and attempting to do so doesn’t produce good outcomes psychosocially.

www.heritage.org

The Heritage foundation is not a credible witness on this issue. I will stick with the parents,the whole medical establishment,the courts, the Governer and the ACLU.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You haven't shown any of that. Get something that is at least as current as your idiotic comedic post.

Perhaps you have evidence that the AMA has changed its stance ?
I will wait.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Well, that, and science. Real science, not the absurd mockery of “science” to which you cling.

You mean "science" that you agree with ? Like that creationism thing.
You have little credibility in this. You cnt cite one source to back up your prejudice.

 

[Papageorgio]

And no one is advocating that the should.

However, their parents certainly can make that decision; it’s a matter for families of transgender children alone to decide, absent interference from the state.

But the big government authoritarian right seeks to interfere in personal, private decisions – such as whether to have a child or not or how to raise one’s children.

Real quick, if there is a surgery and the parent choses to follow the child’s wishes not to have a blood transfusion should big authoritarian government interfere in personal, private decisions on how to raise their children?

 

[Seymour Flops]

The Heritage foundation is not a credible witness on this issue. I will stick with the parents,the whole medical establishment,the courts, the Governer and the ACLU.

I quoted science as you asked.

But I expected you to ignore it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I quoted science as you asked.

But I expected you to ignore it.

Well you quoted a nutty right wing pressure group. Nobody would trust their health to those headcases. Certainly not the health of their kids.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I am a little surprised Stewart is taking the position he is.
He talks about ignoring data and facts,
Well he is ignoring the data and facts of eye popping numbers of suicides among teenagers who transition to another sex. No other demographic even comes remotely close to these kids.
Two - he is ignoring the data and facts that we do not know what the long term effects are of giving kids drugs that delay and even halt puberty.
Three - He is ignoring the testimony and statements made by 1000s of girls, who as confused young kids transitioned to a boy to later regret that early decision and now they cannot have children.
Four - He is ignoring the 1000s of cases where kids THINK they have gender dysphoria, but later go back to their biological sex. If those kids took those drugs - they would be stuck in a limbo state, not fitting into EITHER sex.
Five - He is ignoring the science and data where we know the frontal lobe of the human brain does not develop until a person turns between 20 - 25 years old. The cerebral cortex. It is the part of the brain totally responsible for critical thinking and future consequences. Which is exactly why teenagers take enormous risks and do very dangerous activities that when they get only a couple years older - they never do it again.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Well you quoted a nutty right wing pressure group. Nobody would trust their health to those headcases. Certainly not the health of their kids.

iout.i quoted science as you asked. I can't help it that you hate science.

 

[Couchpotato]

I think that is her standpoint and I have some sympathy with that.
But Stewart lists those who have worked on this and have given it more thought than us. .
If kids are killing themselves then perhaps time is not our friend.
But its a tough one.

Would you care to cite the long-term study of post-surgery trans folks who have better outcomes?

The people saying we should be doing these things have a huge financial stake in doing them. It's akin to the tobacco companies hiring doctors to tell everyone smoking was healthy back in the day. How did that work out?

Also what's the rush? Let them dress up in whatever clothes they want, get them therapy. Dont hack off their genitals or take drugs that have irreversible effects. Are you glad your teenage self wasnt allowed to make lifer altering decisions now that you arent a teenager anymore? I sure as shit am. Teenagers are by and large stupid. They lack perspective and the ability to see past today.

Thirdly. If gender is a social construct then why would one need to get their tits hacked off to be a man (gender) or their penis removed to be a woman (gender)?

 

[Concerned American]

If gender is a social construct

And no matter if they do those surgical modifications they will still be XX or XY--gender.

 

[Coyote]

The Heritage foundation is not a credible witness on this issue. I will stick with the parents,the whole medical establishment,the courts, the Governer and the ACLU.

These are the things that should be between the child, the parents and their doctor, not determined by politicians.

Am I the only one who sees the irony of politicians making parental rights the cornerstone of their political platform limiting to only politically approved rights?

of course someone is going to scream about mutilating a child’s genitals despite the fact that that sort of surgery is not done on children.

 

[Seymour Flops]

These are the things that should be between the child, the parents and their doctor, not determined by politicians.

Am I the only one who sees the irony of politicians making parental rights the cornerstone of their political platform limiting to only politically approved rights?

of course someone is going to scream about mutilating a child’s genitals despite the fact that that sort of surgery is not done on children.

Would the same apply to genital mutilation NOT for gender reassignment but for religious reasons?

Or would you ban both?

 

[Coyote]

Would the same apply to genital mutilation NOT for gender reassignment but for religious reasons?

Or would you ban both?

Gender reassignment surgery is done only on adults and there is usually a lengthy process of counseling, hormonal therapy etc before surgery is even considered. That said there will always be unethical doctors. Since we are talking about adults making their own decisions in consultation with their doctors and the current established protocols, I don’t see why that should be a problem.

Now jump to genital mutilation….are we talking kids or adults?

With kids, no, of course it should be banned. With the rare exception of certain medical conditions such as ambiguous genitalia or hermaphroditism. But what I think you mean is a disgusting surgery done on women in certain cultures … and should it be banned?

Yes. Of course on children and also for adults. There is zero medical benefit, in fact usually the opposite.

There is actually another genital surgery done however, usually on infants, and that is circumcision…I am not sure how I feel about that.

 

[Couchpotato]

These are the things that should be between the child, the parents and their doctor, not determined by politicians.

Am I the only one who sees the irony of politicians making parental rights the cornerstone of their political platform limiting to only politically approved rights?

of course someone is going to scream about mutilating a child’s genitals despite the fact that that sort of surgery is not done on children.

More Trans Teens Are Choosing ‘Top Surgery’ (Published 2022)

Small studies suggest that breast removal surgery improves transgender teenagers’ well-being, but data is sparse. Some state leaders oppose such procedures for minors.

www.nytimes.com

Whats that you said? If they aren’t doing these surgeries on children why would anyone care if they are made illegal for children?