Judge orders Trump to pay nearly $355 million in civil fraud trial

[mudwhistle]

They also comitted perjury lying about their offences.

Where did you learn to spell? Committed, not comitted......and it's offenses, not offences.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So what brought on that display of insanity?

It might have been Hunter's drug usage, or Joe's fondling of children?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Naturally you believe that.

Believe everything with no evidence.

Ignore the mountains of evidence related to the thread topic.

You know, some people pay money for your behavior,.. It's nice of you to volunteer.

Why would I doubt Hunter's nickname for his father?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why would I doubt Hunter's nickname for his father?

Exactly. Thanks.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Exactly. Thanks.

You haven't seen the evidence of Hunter's nickname for Joe?

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You haven't seen the evidence of Hunter's nickname for Joe?

Am I your assistant?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Am I your assistant?

Are you?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Are you?

Am I?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Am I?

Did I claim you were?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did I claim you were?

If you had, I wouldn't have had to ask. I would know the answer.

Am I?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If you had, I wouldn't have had to ask. I would know the answer.

Am I?

Do you feel you are?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Do you feel you are?

Hey now, mind your business.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[Flopper]

This is, yet again, a civil trial. Due process was leapfrogged and Trump wasn't even allowed to offer a reasonable defense. Any judge in the country would strike this down.

FYI, the only person acting like Putin is Biden.
Putin would have had these people killed before this went to a bench trial.

No, he offered a defense, "there were no victims". That might help him lower his fine in a court of appeals but it certainly will not cause a higher court to set aside his guilty verdict.

The state's evidence that he broke law were clear and damning . Any reasonable person would admit their guilt show remorse pay a fine. However, Trump decided to turn his trial in a political showcase and the judge would not allow it.

When Trump took the stand, he refused to answer questions from the prosecutor and instead claimed the government documents were not valid and since no one actually lost any money there should be no trial. It's a wonder the judge did not hold him in contempt for outbursts.

Trump made it clear that he should not be charge for violating the law because the banks did not lose money. No wonder Judge Engoron issued a blistering 93-page opinion that painted the former president as unremorseful and highly likely to commit fraud again. “His complete lack of contrition and remorse borders on the pathological."

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

It's a wonder the judge did not hold him in contempt for outbursts.

He treated Donnie with kid gloves, because there was no jury in that courtroom.

A judge that has to protect a jury trial will not be so kind.

 

[berg80]

Now remember:

Joe Biden has dementia and is senile, because he uses up names and forgets dates.

But Ivanka trump can't recall a single thing about a process during which her signatures appear EVERYWHERE.

Dementia? Or perjury?

Is it possible members of the Trump crime family don't see a problem with perjury since they've been brought up to lie their whole lives?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Is it possible members of the Trump crime family don't see a problem with perjury since they've been brought up to lie their whole lives?

Absolutely right. They think they are being smart, when they lie in court. Like Daddy taught them.

 

[berg80]

In 2014, the Trump Organization sought several more approvals from Deutsche Bank: ( 1) a loan for the Washington, D.C. Old Post Office project; (2) the renewal of an existingTrumpEndeavor12, LLC credit facility for Doral; and (3) an increase in the Trump Chicago credit facility PX294; TT 1041-1045. The approval process for these three discrete items was the same as the previous approval processes, except that a higher level of authority was needed to approve the transactions within the credit risk management team. TT 1045. Like the previous credit facilities, approval required Donald Trump, as guarantor, to maintain a minimum net worth of $2.5 billion, as [t]he bank wanted to be sure that in an adverse market scenario the client would always have enough financial resources to be able to pay off our loan. TT 10481049. Like the previous credit facilities, the credit risk management team noted that [a]lthough all three Facilities are secured by Collateral, given the unique nature of these credits, the credit exposure is being recommended based on the financial profile of the Guarantor. PX294; TT1050. Haigh noted that the Private Wealth Management Division did not normally extend loans that involved substantial reconstruction on its collateral, here, the Old Post Office, so the loan was approved in reliance Donald Trump's personal guarantee. TT 1050-1051. Once again, as a required covenant, Donald Trump was obligated to provide certifications and annual statements of financial condition so that the bank could test his required covenants at any time. TT 1049.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/ef72526861902856/1e996397-full.pdf

IOW, part of the reason he lied about his wealth was to ensure he was not in violation of loan covenants.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

In 2014, the Trump Organization sought several more approvals from Deutsche Bank: ( 1) a loan for the Washington, D.C. Old Post Office project; (2) the renewal of an existingTrumpEndeavor12, LLC credit facility for Doral; and (3) an increase in the Trump Chicago credit facility PX294; TT 1041-1045. The approval process for these three discrete items was the same as the previous approval processes, except that a higher level of authority was needed to approve the transactions within the credit risk management team. TT 1045. Like the previous credit facilities, approval required Donald Trump, as guarantor, to maintain a minimum net worth of $2.5 billion, as [t]he bank wanted to be sure that in an adverse market scenario the client would always have enough financial resources to be able to pay off our loan. TT 10481049. Like the previous credit facilities, the credit risk management team noted that [a]lthough all three Facilities are secured by Collateral, given the unique nature of these credits, the credit exposure is being recommended based on the financial profile of the Guarantor. PX294; TT1050. Haigh noted that the Private Wealth Management Division did not normally extend loans that involved substantial reconstruction on its collateral, here, the Old Post Office, so the loan was approved in reliance Donald Trump's personal guarantee. TT 1050-1051. Once again, as a required covenant, Donald Trump was obligated to provide certifications and annual statements of financial condition so that the bank could test his required covenants at any time. TT 1049.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/ef72526861902856/1e996397-full.pdf

IOW, part of the reason he lied about his wealth was to ensure he was not in violation of loan covenants.

I would still LOVE to know who co-signed Trumps last loans with Deutsche Bank.