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Consumers pay all taxes, businesses pass them on, they don't eat them. It's bizarre how the left grasp that if the cost of steel goes up that's a cost and companies pass it on. Then when you point out that taxes are a cost, they pass it on, the left is like what? That makes no sense
You know what else companies pass on to consumers? Their profit.
Now for some reason some people think that if only companies didn't have to pay taxes, the companies would be so glad to lower their prices and thereby lower their profit. Just to help the consumers.
Then again, some people think republicans make good leaders.
I agree, the RNC is going to pick who they want, not who the people want, and thats not Trump. Just like the DNC is going to pick Hillary even though its clear the people want Bernie.Then it's a bet republicans will lose.Republicans have broken voter turnout records in every state so far. I'm pretty sure that is the result of the Trump phenomenon. I'm also pretty sure a lot of his supporters will disappear with him if he loses the nomination. I know how much a lot of you dislike Trump, but at this point he is probably the best bet for a Republican win.
I want the job killing regulations and taxes gone first to try and get investment here first............I also want Fair Trade versus Free Trade.................I'm hardly a leftist and every time we get on this issue I am called that...............so be it.............our jobs are leaving...........one aspect is the regulations nightmare and high taxes of this country...........the other is we don't have a level playing field............Since we have higher standards of income, Regulations, and etc......Free Trade Agreements with countries like Mexico and China give them the advantage as they don't play by the same rules...........Many call this Fair Trade.........In regards to Canada.........we have similar laws and regs so the field is level................China has virtually no EPA standards and Regs whatsoever............When imported steel started to be a problem under Bush, he instituted a tariff. Our trading partners in return put a tariff on our goods being shipped there, so it was a wash and Bush had to back down.
Tariffs don't solve anything. I think what might help is if we Americans were more supportive of our own workers. Let's face it, do any of us look on the packaging of our goods to see where it was made? I don't, and I'm willing to bet that you don't either
Recently Obama signed getting rid of Country of Origin Labeling after we lost in a WTO Court against Mexico and Canada..............After losing the Court allowed Tariffs for compensation to Mexico and Canada. So if we do as you say they will file suit against us again and then order us to change our laws again. As we get hit with tariffs again by the World Court.
Under these free trade agreements, the World tells us how to trade and in this case tells us to change our laws. I have a serious problem with that. If they want to do business here they must obey our laws. Just as we must obey their laws when doing business there.
You talk about the steel..........but cases were filed in the WTO and Bush didn't counter their tariffs after they countered ours...........we could quota their asses and hurt them economically if we are negotiating with them to try and reverse our Trade deficits................and one example doesn't make all of them wrong anyway........
In auto manufacturing, Tariffs in the past caused foreign investment here to avoid them...........I'm not talking Detroit but the South in companies like Nissan and Toyota.
It is a give an take deal to get the best Trade position possible to prevent all the jobs from hauling ass............worked for 200 plus years until someone said it was broken.
But you have to ask yourself who ultimately pays these tariffs? Yes, that would be us, the US consumer.
That is the basic lie of the left economically. Consumers pay all taxes, businesses pass them on, they don't eat them. It's bizarre how the left grasp that if the cost of steel goes up that's a cost and companies pass it on. Then when you point out that taxes are a cost, they pass it on, the left is like what? That makes no sense
Free Trade has cost us MILLIONS of jobs...............so have high taxes and regulations............If you are in favor of Cheap foreign goods at the DESTRUCTION of our industrial base..........then you favor Free Trade.
Perhaps you like the United States being told to change it's laws from a Foreign court as well................
I remember your statements in the past Kaz.............If I were to do work on your electrical I would CHARGE you triple the price for the new age of America................Because back on that thread you took a dump on Blue Collar Workers.........saying oh well if those jobs get hammered.
We can't allow the jobs to go out of country at the levels happening now without destroying the American Worker.
I don't remember calling you a leftist, but here's the thing. Liberals want to punish American companies for leaving. I want to level the playing field. The by far best way to do that is the Fair Tax, but no matter how you do it, punishing them for leaving either makes them just be more clever or fold when they can't compete.
So Eagle, I'm not sure what you're saying, I'm asking you. You're not for just punishing American companies for wanting to leave, are you? Let's remove their incentives for leaving.
For instance if given the choice, I would rather deal with a company that has American workers on the end of the phone instead of foreigners that I can't understand, or phone systems where you have to push ten different buttons to get to the person you want to discuss an issue wit
Americans always complain about leg room on planes. I think it was Continental decided to take out a row of seats and a little bit of leg room for a tiny ticket price increase. They got no benefit from it, people just kept picking the cheapest tickets. So they gave up and put the extra row of seats back in to get back the money they were losing from the missing seats.
In the end, it's not what customers "say" they want, it's what they will spend money on. Customers won't pay for Customer Service that they can understand. Though Indians are generally improving with their accents. Maybe you would pay a little more. I'm just saying most people won't. And as long as they don't, companies are actually listening to their customers. People get what they are willing to pay for. And they don't get what they won't, at least not for long
Common core economics = why communism, marxism, and socialism are the answers for today's dependent society.Consumers pay all taxes, businesses pass them on, they don't eat them. It's bizarre how the left grasp that if the cost of steel goes up that's a cost and companies pass it on. Then when you point out that taxes are a cost, they pass it on, the left is like what? That makes no sense
You know what else companies pass on to consumers? Their profit.
Now for some reason some people think that if only companies didn't have to pay taxes, the companies would be so glad to lower their prices and thereby lower their profit. Just to help the consumers.
Then again, some people think republicans make good leaders.
You need to take an econ 101 course and learn about profits in a free market. The government has failed you badly, my friend. You don't even know what competition is or how it drives pricing and profits. Econ should be basic in high school just like English and Math
Common core economics = why communism, marxism, and socialism are the answers for today's dependent society.[/QUOTE]d. You don't even know what competition is or how it drives pricing and profits. Econ should be basic in high school just like English and Math
Common core economics = why communism, marxism, and socialism are the answers for today's dependent society.d. You don't even know what competition is or how it drives pricing and profits. Econ should be basic in high school just like English and Math
I want the job killing regulations and taxes gone first to try and get investment here first............I also want Fair Trade versus Free Trade.................I'm hardly a leftist and every time we get on this issue I am called that...............so be it.............our jobs are leaving...........one aspect is the regulations nightmare and high taxes of this country...........the other is we don't have a level playing field............Since we have higher standards of income, Regulations, and etc......Free Trade Agreements with countries like Mexico and China give them the advantage as they don't play by the same rules...........Many call this Fair Trade.........In regards to Canada.........we have similar laws and regs so the field is level................China has virtually no EPA standards and Regs whatsoever............Recently Obama signed getting rid of Country of Origin Labeling after we lost in a WTO Court against Mexico and Canada..............After losing the Court allowed Tariffs for compensation to Mexico and Canada. So if we do as you say they will file suit against us again and then order us to change our laws again. As we get hit with tariffs again by the World Court.
Under these free trade agreements, the World tells us how to trade and in this case tells us to change our laws. I have a serious problem with that. If they want to do business here they must obey our laws. Just as we must obey their laws when doing business there.
You talk about the steel..........but cases were filed in the WTO and Bush didn't counter their tariffs after they countered ours...........we could quota their asses and hurt them economically if we are negotiating with them to try and reverse our Trade deficits................and one example doesn't make all of them wrong anyway........
In auto manufacturing, Tariffs in the past caused foreign investment here to avoid them...........I'm not talking Detroit but the South in companies like Nissan and Toyota.
It is a give an take deal to get the best Trade position possible to prevent all the jobs from hauling ass............worked for 200 plus years until someone said it was broken.
But you have to ask yourself who ultimately pays these tariffs? Yes, that would be us, the US consumer.
That is the basic lie of the left economically. Consumers pay all taxes, businesses pass them on, they don't eat them. It's bizarre how the left grasp that if the cost of steel goes up that's a cost and companies pass it on. Then when you point out that taxes are a cost, they pass it on, the left is like what? That makes no sense
Free Trade has cost us MILLIONS of jobs...............so have high taxes and regulations............If you are in favor of Cheap foreign goods at the DESTRUCTION of our industrial base..........then you favor Free Trade.
Perhaps you like the United States being told to change it's laws from a Foreign court as well................
I remember your statements in the past Kaz.............If I were to do work on your electrical I would CHARGE you triple the price for the new age of America................Because back on that thread you took a dump on Blue Collar Workers.........saying oh well if those jobs get hammered.
We can't allow the jobs to go out of country at the levels happening now without destroying the American Worker.
I don't remember calling you a leftist, but here's the thing. Liberals want to punish American companies for leaving. I want to level the playing field. The by far best way to do that is the Fair Tax, but no matter how you do it, punishing them for leaving either makes them just be more clever or fold when they can't compete.
So Eagle, I'm not sure what you're saying, I'm asking you. You're not for just punishing American companies for wanting to leave, are you? Let's remove their incentives for leaving.
I don't want our Trade disputes decided in a WTO court......No foreign court should be telling us to change our laws or else.............enacting fines on us via tariffs for compensation............
We should negotiate this ourselves and decide when and if we are going to change our laws.
I'm implying getting out of the Free Trade agreements..............and tariffs if the jobs keep leaving if the less regulations fail.I want the job killing regulations and taxes gone first to try and get investment here first............I also want Fair Trade versus Free Trade.................I'm hardly a leftist and every time we get on this issue I am called that...............so be it.............our jobs are leaving...........one aspect is the regulations nightmare and high taxes of this country...........the other is we don't have a level playing field............Since we have higher standards of income, Regulations, and etc......Free Trade Agreements with countries like Mexico and China give them the advantage as they don't play by the same rules...........Many call this Fair Trade.........In regards to Canada.........we have similar laws and regs so the field is level................China has virtually no EPA standards and Regs whatsoever............But you have to ask yourself who ultimately pays these tariffs? Yes, that would be us, the US consumer.
That is the basic lie of the left economically. Consumers pay all taxes, businesses pass them on, they don't eat them. It's bizarre how the left grasp that if the cost of steel goes up that's a cost and companies pass it on. Then when you point out that taxes are a cost, they pass it on, the left is like what? That makes no sense
Free Trade has cost us MILLIONS of jobs...............so have high taxes and regulations............If you are in favor of Cheap foreign goods at the DESTRUCTION of our industrial base..........then you favor Free Trade.
Perhaps you like the United States being told to change it's laws from a Foreign court as well................
I remember your statements in the past Kaz.............If I were to do work on your electrical I would CHARGE you triple the price for the new age of America................Because back on that thread you took a dump on Blue Collar Workers.........saying oh well if those jobs get hammered.
We can't allow the jobs to go out of country at the levels happening now without destroying the American Worker.
I don't remember calling you a leftist, but here's the thing. Liberals want to punish American companies for leaving. I want to level the playing field. The by far best way to do that is the Fair Tax, but no matter how you do it, punishing them for leaving either makes them just be more clever or fold when they can't compete.
So Eagle, I'm not sure what you're saying, I'm asking you. You're not for just punishing American companies for wanting to leave, are you? Let's remove their incentives for leaving.
I don't want our Trade disputes decided in a WTO court......No foreign court should be telling us to change our laws or else.............enacting fines on us via tariffs for compensation............
We should negotiate this ourselves and decide when and if we are going to change our laws.
The only part I don't know what you mean by is you want fair trade, not free trade. You don't think government is going to help us (business), do you? No one harms us more than the American government. The less they do the better.
You know what else companies pass on to consumers? Their profit.
The only part I don't know what you mean by is you want fair trade, not free trade.
[What we have now and are negotiating into long term trade treaties like the TPP, is a system that allows corporations to remove their companies and jobs to other third world countries and exploit their cheap labor
What is being shattered is the status quo of the GOP that is loaded with career fat cats and pundits who are scared shitless at the prospect of being summarily dismissed by the Trump wave. Trump won't get just 30% of the GOP and he will get Independents and Democrats and people who had given up but actually hear a glimmer of hope when Trump speaks.
What is being shattered is the status quo of the GOP that is loaded with career fat cats and pundits who are scared shitless at the prospect of being summarily dismissed by the Trump wave. Trump won't get just 30% of the GOP and he will get Independents and Democrats and people who had given up but actually hear a glimmer of hope when Trump speaks.
The only glimmer of hope I hear when Trump speaks is that somehow people will realize what a disaster this man is by actually listening to what he says. The man is a con artist.
That is total bullshit.The jobs belong to the companies, not you and not the government and not to the workers.
The only glimmer of hope I hear when Trump speaks is that somehow people will realize what a disaster this man is by actually listening to what he says. The man is a con artist.
That is total bullshit.The jobs belong to the companies, not you and not the government and not to the workers.
Just as the radio waves dont belong to radio companies, companies who have their physical presence in the US, using our roads, our utilities, our educated population THEY HAVE A DEBT and a DUTY to employ American citizens first.
IF you dont realize even that much then you are not capable of remedy.
