Kennedy said:

[Redfish]

in 1963 that was true. today it is not. nice try.

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

 

[rightwinger]

in 1963 that was true. today it is not. nice try.

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

If unions hadn't become an extension of the D party, they would have much greater value.

They represent members of all parties. They contribute based on which candidate represents the best interests of the workers

Since Republicans represent the interests of management at the expense of worker rights, they do not receive much Union backing

 

[rightwinger]

in 1963 that was true. today it is not. nice try.

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

 

[WaitingFor2020]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that would say those words? Or is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that believes those words?

The democrat party has become the party of huge government and dictatorial socialism. Kennedy and Truman would be republicans if they were alive today.

Have you ever read Kennedy's 'New Frontier' program?

I never said that Kennedy did not lean left. nice deflection try.

Now, how about answering the question, name some democrats or liberals who believe and practice what Kennedy said in the quote above.

Go read 'New Frontier' and then come back and talk about what Kennedy believed.

Is it a headline followed by a three-sentence paragraph? If not, forget it.

 

[gipper]

in 1963 that was true. today it is not. nice try.

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

If unions hadn't become an extension of the D party, they would have much greater value.

They represent members of all parties. They contribute based on which candidate represents the best interests of the workers

Since Republicans represent the interests of management at the expense of worker rights, they do not receive much Union backing

Time to get out of the 70s. It has been over 40 years dude and yet you are still stuck...like an old vinyl record.

 

[rightwinger]

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

If unions hadn't become an extension of the D party, they would have much greater value.

They represent members of all parties. They contribute based on which candidate represents the best interests of the workers

Since Republicans represent the interests of management at the expense of worker rights, they do not receive much Union backing

Time to get out of the 70s. It has been over 40 years dude and yet you are still stuck...like an old vinyl record.

Not 70s......Republicans have been smashing unions since the 80s

But they did give employers big tax cuts and deregulation that trickled down emense wealth and privilege to the workers

 

[gipper]

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

If unions hadn't become an extension of the D party, they would have much greater value.

They represent members of all parties. They contribute based on which candidate represents the best interests of the workers

Since Republicans represent the interests of management at the expense of worker rights, they do not receive much Union backing

Time to get out of the 70s. It has been over 40 years dude and yet you are still stuck...like an old vinyl record.

Not 70s......Republicans have been smashing unions since the 80s

But they did give employers big tax cuts and deregulation that trickled down emense wealth and privilege to the workers

When will you learn there is little difference between Ds and Rs?

When you do, you will finally become an adult.

 

[Redfish]

in 1963 that was true. today it is not. nice try.

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

 

[rightwinger]

Wages, hours and benefits have been cut since the demise of unions. Republicans have been watering down collective bargaining and grievance procedures. What JFK said is more true today than it was fifty years ago

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

 

[Redfish]

bullshit. today we have laws to prevent the abuses that the unions were started to fight against.

But if you want to give some of your money to the union bosses, go right ahead. You are free do to dumb things in this country.

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

What did the unions do for the textile industry? Answer: moved it to central America, china, and Burma.

What did the unions (and democrat rule) do for Detroit? Answer: turned a once great city into a cess pool.

You are not entitled to a job for life. You only are entitled to that which you earn.

As I said in the previous post, working conditions and benefits are as good, and many times better, in the non union car factories as in the union car factories.

Once again you have shown yourself to be a victim of left wing propaganda and brain washing.

 

[rightwinger]

Since the demise of unions .......wages have been stagnant, health benefits cut, pensions gone, no job security

Meanwhile, the one percent has reaped record profits

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

What did the unions do for the textile industry? Answer: moved it to central America, china, and Burma.

What did the unions (and democrat rule) do for Detroit? Answer: turned a once great city into a cess pool.

You are not entitled to a job for life. You only are entitled to that which you earn.

As I said in the previous post, working conditions and benefits are as good, and many times better, in the non union car factories as in the union car factories.

Once again you have shown yourself to be a victim of left wing propaganda and brain washing.

What moved the textile industry Central America, China and Burma was $6 a day wages

It was the car manufacturers who destroyed Detroit. They designed shoddy cars that nobody wanted to buy. They avoided modernizing production in favor of taking quick profits
Unions were trying to protect existing wages and benefits....they were not trying to make the workers rich

 

[Redfish]

total bullshit. today we have laws to protect workers from abuse and being taken advantage of, the unions have become nothing but a fund raising organization for the dem party.

Ask the auto workers in the south working for BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Kia, Subaru, Toyota, and VW. They are working in non union factories with good pay, good benefits, and safe working conditions.

The unions had a place in the 1920s and 30s, but today they are not needed.

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

What did the unions do for the textile industry? Answer: moved it to central America, china, and Burma.

What did the unions (and democrat rule) do for Detroit? Answer: turned a once great city into a cess pool.

You are not entitled to a job for life. You only are entitled to that which you earn.

As I said in the previous post, working conditions and benefits are as good, and many times better, in the non union car factories as in the union car factories.

Once again you have shown yourself to be a victim of left wing propaganda and brain washing.

What moved the textile industry Central America, China and Burma was $6 a day wages

It was the car manufacturers who destroyed Detroit. They designed shoddy cars that nobody wanted to buy. They avoided modernizing production in favor of taking quick profits
Unions were trying to protect existing wages and benefits....they were not trying to make the workers rich

you are so full of shit. I have worked in union shops, non union shops, and open shops in my early life. Later I was in upper management in an industry where all the craft people were in unions (shipbuilding). I know what I am talking about, you do not.

The textile workers union drove that industry out of the USA. A combination of unions, democrats and minority rule destroyed Detroit. I don't mean that as a racist statement, but it happens to be fact. Look at Chicago, Cleveland, New York, Philly, LA, Boston, Newark, et al. once great cities brought into chaos and misery by liberal democrats and their failed left wing policies.

But feat not, the voters of the USA rejected all of that on November 8, a new day is dawning and the USA will reverse the failed policies of liberalism.

 

[rightwinger]

Even non Union factories benefit from unions. Management must cede certain benefits in order to keep the unions out.

Unions are needed more today than they were thirty years ago as pay, benefits, working conditions and job security has eroded as workers no longer had unions to stand up for their interests

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

What did the unions do for the textile industry? Answer: moved it to central America, china, and Burma.

What did the unions (and democrat rule) do for Detroit? Answer: turned a once great city into a cess pool.

You are not entitled to a job for life. You only are entitled to that which you earn.

As I said in the previous post, working conditions and benefits are as good, and many times better, in the non union car factories as in the union car factories.

Once again you have shown yourself to be a victim of left wing propaganda and brain washing.

What moved the textile industry Central America, China and Burma was $6 a day wages

It was the car manufacturers who destroyed Detroit. They designed shoddy cars that nobody wanted to buy. They avoided modernizing production in favor of taking quick profits
Unions were trying to protect existing wages and benefits....they were not trying to make the workers rich

you are so full of shit. I have worked in union shops, non union shops, and open shops in my early life. Later I was in upper management in an industry where all the craft people were in unions (shipbuilding). I know what I am talking about, you do not.

The textile workers union drove that industry out of the USA. A combination of unions, democrats and minority rule destroyed Detroit. I don't mean that as a racist statement, but it happens to be fact. Look at Chicago, Cleveland, New York, Philly, LA, Boston, Newark, et al. once great cities brought into chaos and misery by liberal democrats and their failed left wing policies.

But feat not, the voters of the USA rejected all of that on November 8, a new day is dawning and the USA will reverse the failed policies of liberalism.

It was greedy capitalists who destroyed our cities....they used them up and moved to greener pastures

It was the executives who were getting rich, not the workers

 

[Redfish]

that was true in the 1930s. But today we have laws to prevent abuses of hourly workers.

But you mention job security. Why should an auto worker continue to draw a paycheck when the factory has to reduce production due to falling demand?

Working conditions in the non union factories are better than in the union factories.

Unions had a place early in the 20th century, but not now. Today's unions are nothing but a fund raising arm of the dem party.

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

What did the unions do for the textile industry? Answer: moved it to central America, china, and Burma.

What did the unions (and democrat rule) do for Detroit? Answer: turned a once great city into a cess pool.

You are not entitled to a job for life. You only are entitled to that which you earn.

As I said in the previous post, working conditions and benefits are as good, and many times better, in the non union car factories as in the union car factories.

Once again you have shown yourself to be a victim of left wing propaganda and brain washing.

What moved the textile industry Central America, China and Burma was $6 a day wages

It was the car manufacturers who destroyed Detroit. They designed shoddy cars that nobody wanted to buy. They avoided modernizing production in favor of taking quick profits
Unions were trying to protect existing wages and benefits....they were not trying to make the workers rich

you are so full of shit. I have worked in union shops, non union shops, and open shops in my early life. Later I was in upper management in an industry where all the craft people were in unions (shipbuilding). I know what I am talking about, you do not.

The textile workers union drove that industry out of the USA. A combination of unions, democrats and minority rule destroyed Detroit. I don't mean that as a racist statement, but it happens to be fact. Look at Chicago, Cleveland, New York, Philly, LA, Boston, Newark, et al. once great cities brought into chaos and misery by liberal democrats and their failed left wing policies.

But feat not, the voters of the USA rejected all of that on November 8, a new day is dawning and the USA will reverse the failed policies of liberalism.

It was greedy capitalists who destroyed our cities....they used them up and moved to greener pastures

It was the executives who were getting rich, not the workers

your indoctrination is complete, your liberal brainwashing was a success. Congratulations and hail Marx !!!!!!

 

[Redfish]

Back to the OP. Still waiting for one of you dems to give me the name of any democrat today who would dare to say what Kennedy said, or even think it.

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Give me a name, just one, of a democrat today who would say that.

 

[CowboyTed]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that would say those words? Or is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that believes those words?

The democrat party has become the party of huge government and dictatorial socialism. Kennedy and Truman would be republicans if they were alive today.

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

That is it's essence socialism, what can you do for your society, how can you help the less well off or less fortunate...

The Conservative one:
I getting mine and keeping it.

 

[Redfish]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that would say those words? Or is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that believes those words?

The democrat party has become the party of huge government and dictatorial socialism. Kennedy and Truman would be republicans if they were alive today.

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

That is it's essence socialism, what can you do for your society, how can you help the less well off or less fortunate...

The Conservative one:
I getting mine and keeping it.

you missed the first part "ask not what your country can do for you....................."

 

[CowboyTed]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that would say those words? Or is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that believes those words?

The democrat party has become the party of huge government and dictatorial socialism. Kennedy and Truman would be republicans if they were alive today.

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

That is it's essence socialism, what can you do for your society, how can you help the less well off or less fortunate...

The Conservative one:
I getting mine and keeping it.

you missed the first part "ask not what your country can do for you....................."

And you missed the second part...

Socialism unlike what you think isn't about taking, it is about giving into society.... Society then determines how best to share those resources....

Look at Democratic States, they are the states that pay in, Red States are receivers.... Ever wondered why the Blue states have not said no way are we helping them and stopped paying?

 

[Rustic]

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

Is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that would say those words? Or is there any democrat or liberal in the USA today that believes those words?

The democrat party has become the party of huge government and dictatorial socialism. Kennedy and Truman would be republicans if they were alive today.

"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country"

That is it's essence socialism, what can you do for your society, how can you help the less well off or less fortunate...

The Conservative one:
I getting mine and keeping it.

you missed the first part "ask not what your country can do for you....................."

And you missed the second part...

Socialism unlike what you think isn't about taking, it is about giving into society.... Society then determines how best to share those resources....

Look at Democratic States, they are the states that pay in, Red States are receivers.... Ever wondered why the Blue states have not said no way are we helping them and stopped paying?

What's wrong with everyone taking care of their own shit… LOL

 

[rightwinger]

You couldn't be further from the truth

Unions do more than ensure safety and work conditions comply with the law

They act as a collective bargaining agent to allow workers to negotiate with management as a whole rather than on a case by case basis. Since the demise of unions...wages, benefits and job security have plummeted

What did the unions do for the textile industry? Answer: moved it to central America, china, and Burma.

What did the unions (and democrat rule) do for Detroit? Answer: turned a once great city into a cess pool.

You are not entitled to a job for life. You only are entitled to that which you earn.

As I said in the previous post, working conditions and benefits are as good, and many times better, in the non union car factories as in the union car factories.

Once again you have shown yourself to be a victim of left wing propaganda and brain washing.

What moved the textile industry Central America, China and Burma was $6 a day wages

It was the car manufacturers who destroyed Detroit. They designed shoddy cars that nobody wanted to buy. They avoided modernizing production in favor of taking quick profits
Unions were trying to protect existing wages and benefits....they were not trying to make the workers rich

you are so full of shit. I have worked in union shops, non union shops, and open shops in my early life. Later I was in upper management in an industry where all the craft people were in unions (shipbuilding). I know what I am talking about, you do not.

The textile workers union drove that industry out of the USA. A combination of unions, democrats and minority rule destroyed Detroit. I don't mean that as a racist statement, but it happens to be fact. Look at Chicago, Cleveland, New York, Philly, LA, Boston, Newark, et al. once great cities brought into chaos and misery by liberal democrats and their failed left wing policies.

But feat not, the voters of the USA rejected all of that on November 8, a new day is dawning and the USA will reverse the failed policies of liberalism.

It was greedy capitalists who destroyed our cities....they used them up and moved to greener pastures

It was the executives who were getting rich, not the workers

your indoctrination is complete, your liberal brainwashing was a success. Congratulations and hail Marx !!!!!!

Its not Marx, its the reality of our society

It is capitalists who used up our cities and then abandoned them
Government was left to pick up the pieces