Kerry Confirmed

[del]

No so that we can have the checks and balances like it used to be.
This is exactly why we have an aristocracy now, they have totally taken away the checks and balances.

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

Learn some history you fool.

translation: rush does all my thinking for me

 

[peach174]

Why?

So we can enable a new aristocracy?

No thanks.

We've got enough of that already..without being taken completely out of the process.

No so that we can have the checks and balances like it used to be.
This is exactly why we have an aristocracy now, they have totally taken away the checks and balances.

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

It caused the biggest of all corruptions by doing it.
It did not end it at all, it became worse and is totally out of control now.

 

[Sallow]

No so that we can have the checks and balances like it used to be.
This is exactly why we have an aristocracy now, they have totally taken away the checks and balances.

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

Learn some history you fool.

Where are you giving classes?

Walmart or Key Food?

 

[Sallow]

No so that we can have the checks and balances like it used to be.
This is exactly why we have an aristocracy now, they have totally taken away the checks and balances.

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

It caused the biggest of all corruptions by doing it.
It did not end it at all, it became worse and is totally out of control now.

True.

It broke the whole idea that royalty had the right to rule by divine providence.

Now we have all sorts of folks involved in government.

And the pity is..none have royal blood.

 

[Avatar4321]

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

And yet, the 17th amendment did the exact opposite because it eliminated the check the States have on the Federal government and allowed special interest groups to directly control Senators.

Did you ever stop to think that the Founders set it up a certain way for a reason? Maybe instead of rushing to assume that your way is better, you should stop and ask "Why was it set up the way it was?"

The States now have little recourse against the Federal government. Which is why immediately after the 17th amendment was passed, the Federal government began spending like crazy and installing big government programs at the costs of the tax payers.

See our system works when there is a balance of power between the people, Feds, and States. When one of the legs is weakened and power taken for the others, we only have two legs of a stool to stand on. That eventually becomes one leg. A three way division of power works, a two way division rarely works. It quickly becomes one. That's one of the reasons why the Roman Triumvirates worked so well and the second one of the three was long longer in power the Republic went to Civil war.

It's ironic, that by empowering individuals in the short term, the progressives have successfully removed the obstacles they need to oppress them.

 

[Avatar4321]

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

It caused the biggest of all corruptions by doing it.
It did not end it at all, it became worse and is totally out of control now.

True.

It broke the whole idea that royalty had the right to rule by divine providence.

Now we have all sorts of folks involved in government.

And the pity is..none have royal blood.

Hate to break it to you but there hasnt been royalty in the United States. Ever.

 

[thanatos144]

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

Learn some history you fool.

Where are you giving classes?

Walmart or Key Food?

It is sad that so much was paid for your education cause it is obvious it didn't take. The 17th amendment was put forward by corrupt politicians that didn't like the idea of a branch of government that might stop them....That was 1912 and it was ratified in 1913...Shocking enough the beginning of the progressive movement...Actually it was hoped that a rider banning certain races from having a vote would pass with it....Yet what so you expect from democrats???? They always wanted to keep the darkies down...Of course it was a republican Senator Joseph L. Bristow who got the race part removed.....

 

[Sallow]

One of the biggest "checks" in government is a fair and open election.

The reason for the 17th Amendment was to put an end to corruption.

And yet, the 17th amendment did the exact opposite because it eliminated the check the States have on the Federal government and allowed special interest groups to directly control Senators.

Did you ever stop to think that the Founders set it up a certain way for a reason? Maybe instead of rushing to assume that your way is better, you should stop and ask "Why was it set up the way it was?"

The States now have little recourse against the Federal government. Which is why immediately after the 17th amendment was passed, the Federal government began spending like crazy and installing big government programs at the costs of the tax payers.

See our system works when there is a balance of power between the people, Feds, and States. When one of the legs is weakened and power taken for the others, we only have two legs of a stool to stand on. That eventually becomes one leg. A three way division of power works, a two way division rarely works. It quickly becomes one. That's one of the reasons why the Roman Triumvirates worked so well and the second one of the three was long longer in power the Republic went to Civil war.

It's ironic, that by empowering individuals in the short term, the progressives have successfully removed the obstacles they need to oppress them.

The Founders wanted an unprofessional part time ground force of "minutemen" militia.
The Founders wanted slavery encoded into this nation's fabric.
The Founders wanted women to keep their mouths shut.
The Founders thought piracy was one of the biggest challenges facing this nation for the forseeable future.
The Founders wanted white landed gentry to be the only folks to be able to participate in government.

Alot has changed.

 

[whitehall]

Dear God - Hanoi Jane next

Who would have thought a guy who faked his way into three unauthorized Purple Hearts so he could get out of Vietnam and recommended himself for a Silver Star for shooting an unarmed VC in the back would become Secretary/State? Who would have thought that a Navy officer who collaborated with the enemy on his own, meeting them in Paris and organized a bogus "winter soldiers" party with a traitor like Jane Fonda would become Secretary/State? At least his traitor ass is out of the Senate.

Who would have thought an educated, highly intelligent, level-headed poster would believe the Swift Boat Liars? Oh, scratch the first three adjectives and we have our answer...

Ya see, you don't get away with calling someone a liar. You have to argue it point by point. Kerry was in command and as such he sent the recommendations in for himself and his crew. Did he throw a grenade into a cache of rice and get shrapnel in his butt? Self inflicted wounds do not qualify. Did he get a splinter in his finger that didn't even require a bandaid when a mine went off and put himself in for a Purple heart? A real Military leader would be embarrassed. Did he shoot an unarmed VC in the back? Did it merit a Silver Star or a court martial?

 

[Sallow]

Learn some history you fool.

Where are you giving classes?

Walmart or Key Food?

It is sad that so much was paid for your education cause it is obvious it didn't take. The 17th amendment was put forward by corrupt politicians that didn't like the idea of a branch of government that might stop them....That was 1912 and it was ratified in 1913...Shocking enough the beginning of the progressive movement...Actually it was hoped that a rider banning certain races from having a vote would pass with it....Yet what so you expect from democrats???? They always wanted to keep the darkies down...Of course it was a republican Senator Joseph L. Bristow who got the race part removed.....

So maybe you aren't a grocery bager..

Seems you work in the produce section. Because cherry picking seems to be your thing.

That's "your" this time..not "you're".

 

[Sallow]

Who would have thought a guy who faked his way into three unauthorized Purple Hearts so he could get out of Vietnam and recommended himself for a Silver Star for shooting an unarmed VC in the back would become Secretary/State? Who would have thought that a Navy officer who collaborated with the enemy on his own, meeting them in Paris and organized a bogus "winter soldiers" party with a traitor like Jane Fonda would become Secretary/State? At least his traitor ass is out of the Senate.

Who would have thought an educated, highly intelligent, level-headed poster would believe the Swift Boat Liars? Oh, scratch the first three adjectives and we have our answer...

Ya see, you don't get away with calling someone a liar. You have to argue it point by point. Kerry was in command and as such he sent the recommendations in for himself and his crew. Did he throw a grenade into a cache of rice and get shrapnel in his butt? Self inflicted wounds do not qualify. Did he get a splinter in his finger that didn't even require a bandaid when a mine went off and put himself in for a Purple heart? A real Military leader would be embarrassed. Did he shoot an unarmed VC in the back? Did it merit a Silver Star or a court martial?

Spitting on an American hero again?

Least salute when you do that.

 

[del]

Who would have thought a guy who faked his way into three unauthorized Purple Hearts so he could get out of Vietnam and recommended himself for a Silver Star for shooting an unarmed VC in the back would become Secretary/State? Who would have thought that a Navy officer who collaborated with the enemy on his own, meeting them in Paris and organized a bogus "winter soldiers" party with a traitor like Jane Fonda would become Secretary/State? At least his traitor ass is out of the Senate.

Who would have thought an educated, highly intelligent, level-headed poster would believe the Swift Boat Liars? Oh, scratch the first three adjectives and we have our answer...

Ya see, you don't get away with calling someone a liar. You have to argue it point by point. Kerry was in command and as such he sent the recommendations in for himself and his crew. Did he throw a grenade into a cache of rice and get shrapnel in his butt? Self inflicted wounds do not qualify. Did he get a splinter in his finger that didn't even require a bandaid when a mine went off and put himself in for a Purple heart? A real Military leader would be embarrassed. Did he shoot an unarmed VC in the back? Did it merit a Silver Star or a court martial?

how long did you serve with kerry?

 

[thanatos144]

Where are you giving classes?

Walmart or Key Food?

It is sad that so much was paid for your education cause it is obvious it didn't take. The 17th amendment was put forward by corrupt politicians that didn't like the idea of a branch of government that might stop them....That was 1912 and it was ratified in 1913...Shocking enough the beginning of the progressive movement...Actually it was hoped that a rider banning certain races from having a vote would pass with it....Yet what so you expect from democrats???? They always wanted to keep the darkies down...Of course it was a republican Senator Joseph L. Bristow who got the race part removed.....

So maybe you aren't a grocery bager..

Seems you work in the produce section. Because cherry picking seems to be your thing.

That's "your" this time..not "you're".

Your useless.

 

[thanatos144]

Who would have thought an educated, highly intelligent, level-headed poster would believe the Swift Boat Liars? Oh, scratch the first three adjectives and we have our answer...

Ya see, you don't get away with calling someone a liar. You have to argue it point by point. Kerry was in command and as such he sent the recommendations in for himself and his crew. Did he throw a grenade into a cache of rice and get shrapnel in his butt? Self inflicted wounds do not qualify. Did he get a splinter in his finger that didn't even require a bandaid when a mine went off and put himself in for a Purple heart? A real Military leader would be embarrassed. Did he shoot an unarmed VC in the back? Did it merit a Silver Star or a court martial?

Spitting on an American hero again?

Least salute when you do that.

American Heroes are not traitors and Kerry is.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Cabnt you not read? I understand that in your liberal hate filled mind all you care about is saving your grow plots and not paying taxes....Oh yea and having the confederates raise again so you can own slaves to harvest your pot.

"Cabnt" you not spell?

yuor an idoit and a facsist

Truth learn how to sp.....oh wait its you Del.....sorry....

 

[Sallow]

It caused the biggest of all corruptions by doing it.
It did not end it at all, it became worse and is totally out of control now.

True.

It broke the whole idea that royalty had the right to rule by divine providence.

Now we have all sorts of folks involved in government.

And the pity is..none have royal blood.

Hate to break it to you but there hasnt been royalty in the United States. Ever.

A Brief History of Royals in America - Photo Essays - TIME

 

[Freewill]

Everyone lies but Kerry, yet he was shown to lie, funny how that works.

I didn't read through all the posts but are the Republicans getting congrats for pushing his nomination through? See how the two sides can work togehter when Obama doesn't nominate a complete left wing liberal? Of course getting Kerry out of the Senate might be the biggest motivation.

 

[Harry Dresden]

"Cabnt" you not spell?

yuor an idoit and a facsist

That may well be..

But I do tip people who bag my groceries. And I am pretty generous.

Just ask thanatos144.

Now if only I could get him to shine shoes. But that may well be above his pay grade.

you tip the kid who bags your groceries?....

 

[Sallow]

"Cabnt" you not spell?

yuor an idoit and a facsist

Truth learn how to sp.....oh wait its you Del.....sorry....

You're a little late to the party Harry.

Take notes thanatos144..

It's "You're" this time..and not "Your.

 

[Ava]