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bigrebnc is very big on insults, particularly when he is not adding to the discussion. This is what he does. Not a smart person at all.
The discussion is clear: the treaty is good, it limit terrorists from getting firearms, and it is not unconstitutional.
A. (from your own link, btw): The treaty would require countries that ratify it to establish national regulations to control the transfer of conventional arms and components and to regulate arms brokers, but it will not explicitly control the domestic use of weapons in any country.
B. Treaties with foreign nations cannot override the constitution. It's in the constitution.
Shhhhh.... telling the gun nuts that guns are bad makes them cry.
I am very protective of the Second Amendment and oppose most gun control measures from the Left.
However, the loons who say this treaty violates the Second Amendment are gullible fools who won't even provide evidence for their claims precisely because there isn't any.
bigrebnc is very big on insults, particularly when he is not adding to the discussion. This is what he does. Not a smart person at all.
The discussion is clear: the treaty is good, it limit terrorists from getting firearms, and it is not unconstitutional.
And you repay insults with insults? How exactly does that absolve you?
And you say you're a Republican? Man I hate liars.
I am a registered Republican and have voted for the last two Republican Presidential nominees. I also cast a vote for my current Repub governor. I was simply pointing out the irony that these backwards nations oppose this treaty as well as the backwards sub-culture that brews in the GOP.
Most people on this board will tell you that the only thing worse than a liberal to me is a radical fringe conservative. A.K.A the NRA. I believe these people are the greatest determent to the longevity of the GOP and unfortunately a lot of this board is made up of those people. My political affiliation does not stop at the (R) next to my name, unlike many others it goes a little deeper than that.
But then you advocate a woman's right to "choose" on another thread, then you come here advocating advancements on the rights of law abiding gun owners? You can vote for a Republican, but that doesn't automatically make you one. You are willing to let the President further violate the boundaries of his power by signing a treaty without approval from the Senate? Anyone who advocates government excess is either a progressive or a liberal. And how did you vote for McCain in 2008? You would have been only 17 years of age on Super Tuesday of that year. That is only unless you were to turn 18 by election day, or you turned 18 on or before Super Tuesday of course.
My political affiliation changed from far right conservative to Conservative Libertarian in little less than a year, because it wasn't "fringe conservatism" that served as the detriment to the party, it was the unwillingness of the party to find common ground. A party cannot succeed when it so oft divided. Your language tells me that your attitudes towards others of your own party serve as the detriment. This country suffers from the same via the two party system. I merely see the partisan macrocosm existing within GOP as a great example of what goes on between Democrats and Republicans on a daily basis. Therefore I chose to disabuse myself from it.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
-Abraham Lincoln, Republican
Maybe if Republicans were more united, as the name of our country implies, perhaps I would reconsider, but when I hear of people like you willing to give up the core values of their party for the sake of progress, that time isn't now. You can compromise without giving up what you truly believe in. However, you breed derision within the GOP when you refer to people in your party with slightly different viewpoints as a "backwards subculture." I refuse to take part in such behavior. Perhaps if there were more grownups instead of politicians in the Republican party, I would reconsider. But not before.
I am a registered Republican and have voted for the last two Republican Presidential nominees. I also cast a vote for my current Repub governor. I was simply pointing out the irony that these backwards nations oppose this treaty as well as the backwards sub-culture that brews in the GOP.
Most people on this board will tell you that the only thing worse than a liberal to me is a radical fringe conservative. A.K.A the NRA. I believe these people are the greatest determent to the longevity of the GOP and unfortunately a lot of this board is made up of those people. My political affiliation does not stop at the (R) next to my name, unlike many others it goes a little deeper than that.
But then you advocate a woman's right to "choose" on another thread, then you come here advocating advancements on the rights of law abiding gun owners? You can vote for a Republican, but that doesn't automatically make you one. You are willing to let the President further violate the boundaries of his power by signing a treaty without approval from the Senate? Anyone who advocates government excess is either a progressive or a liberal. And how did you vote for McCain in 2008? You would have been only 17 years of age on Super Tuesday of that year. That is only unless you were to turn 18 by election day, or you turned 18 on or before Super Tuesday of course.
My political affiliation changed from far right conservative to Conservative Libertarian in little less than a year, because it wasn't "fringe conservatism" that served as the detriment to the party, it was the unwillingness of the party to find common ground. A party cannot succeed when it so oft divided. Your language tells me that your attitudes towards others of your own party serve as the detriment. This country suffers from the same via the two party system. I merely see the partisan macrocosm existing within GOP as a great example of what goes on between Democrats and Republicans on a daily basis. Therefore I chose to disabuse myself from it.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
-Abraham Lincoln, Republican
Maybe if Republicans were more united, as the name of our country implies, perhaps I would reconsider, but when I hear of people like you willing to give up the core values of their party for the sake of progress, that time isn't now. You can compromise without giving up what you truly believe in. However, you breed derision within the GOP when you refer to people in your party with slightly different viewpoints as a "backwards subculture." I refuse to take part in such behavior. Perhaps if there were more grownups instead of politicians in the Republican party, I would reconsider. But not before.
My birthday is October 15th so yeah. I was old enough. 1. I support a women's right to choose because, statistics and logic has told me that it is the correct the decision. 2. I don't make up opinions because other Republicans have them, I think about them. 3.Yes, I am socially progressive, much like every other Young Republican out there. 4.We look at things differently as far as social issues are concerned. It is those in the NRA, Tea Party and Koch army that have made me angrier and angrier with those in this party.5. I do not understand how you people call yourselves Republicans when Reagan, the hero of the party, was more liberal than the majority of these Tea Partiers.
6.The establishment of the Libertarian Party is probably the best thing for us at this time. This way we can just go our separate ways. 7. Us in the GOP will continue to try and convert moderate Dems to the financial logic we present without having to answer the issues that radicals in our party bring to the table. 8. Keep nominating Gary Johnson or whatever with his 10 k votes and we can go back to trying to win elections.
But then you advocate a woman's right to "choose" on another thread, then you come here advocating advancements on the rights of law abiding gun owners? You can vote for a Republican, but that doesn't automatically make you one. You are willing to let the President further violate the boundaries of his power by signing a treaty without approval from the Senate? Anyone who advocates government excess is either a progressive or a liberal. And how did you vote for McCain in 2008? You would have been only 17 years of age on Super Tuesday of that year. That is only unless you were to turn 18 by election day, or you turned 18 on or before Super Tuesday of course.
My political affiliation changed from far right conservative to Conservative Libertarian in little less than a year, because it wasn't "fringe conservatism" that served as the detriment to the party, it was the unwillingness of the party to find common ground. A party cannot succeed when it so oft divided. Your language tells me that your attitudes towards others of your own party serve as the detriment. This country suffers from the same via the two party system. I merely see the partisan macrocosm existing within GOP as a great example of what goes on between Democrats and Republicans on a daily basis. Therefore I chose to disabuse myself from it.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand."
-Abraham Lincoln, Republican
Maybe if Republicans were more united, as the name of our country implies, perhaps I would reconsider, but when I hear of people like you willing to give up the core values of their party for the sake of progress, that time isn't now. You can compromise without giving up what you truly believe in. However, you breed derision within the GOP when you refer to people in your party with slightly different viewpoints as a "backwards subculture." I refuse to take part in such behavior. Perhaps if there were more grownups instead of politicians in the Republican party, I would reconsider. But not before.
My birthday is October 15th so yeah. I was old enough. 1. I support a women's right to choose because, statistics and logic has told me that it is the correct the decision. 2. I don't make up opinions because other Republicans have them, I think about them. 3.Yes, I am socially progressive, much like every other Young Republican out there. 4.We look at things differently as far as social issues are concerned. It is those in the NRA, Tea Party and Koch army that have made me angrier and angrier with those in this party.5. I do not understand how you people call yourselves Republicans when Reagan, the hero of the party, was more liberal than the majority of these Tea Partiers.
6.The establishment of the Libertarian Party is probably the best thing for us at this time. This way we can just go our separate ways. 7. Us in the GOP will continue to try and convert moderate Dems to the financial logic we present without having to answer the issues that radicals in our party bring to the table. Keep nominating Gary Johnson or whatever with his 10 k votes and we can go back to trying to win elections.
1. So, what are these statistics you speak of? Logic alone is not an argument, facts supporting that logic, or facts and logic, however; are. Neither of which you have proven to me yet.
2. As stated in my previous response, I will consider your opinions made up until you refute them.
3. I am only three years older than you, even I cannot fathom such thinking as "progress" as so defined by you and your so-called "young republican" friends. Progress is positive, not destructive.
4. Indeed. I think the party should be unified, not rife with division. My father is a member of the NRA, he is as nice as a person you could ever meet, so why should he be blamed for the alleged destruction of the Republican party? Your anger at the NRA is simply anger at their beliefs, not for any other reason. Your anger at Koch is simply anger at their wealth, not for any other purpose. And why aren't you angry at Monsanto?
5. I never said I was a Republican, now did I?
6. Your unwillingness to meet in the middle will be your undoing. As well as the GOP's. The cancer in a person's blood does not discriminate against itself, it proceeds in its deadly task. Even a disease has more resolve than the party that calls themselves Republican or Democrat. Please for pete's sake, stop bickering with each other.
7. See No. 6.
8. I didn't nominate Gary Johnson, I voted for Romney and McCain, that is until I found out how fruitless voting for establishment candidates could be. A party that can't meet with everyone at the table is like saying King Arthur sought the Holy Grail with only half of his knights.
bigrebnc is very big on insults, particularly when he is not adding to the discussion. This is what he does. Not a smart person at all.
The discussion is clear: the treaty is good, it limit terrorists from getting firearms, and it is not unconstitutional.
My birthday is October 15th so yeah. I was old enough. 1. I support a women's right to choose because, statistics and logic has told me that it is the correct the decision. 2. I don't make up opinions because other Republicans have them, I think about them. 3.Yes, I am socially progressive, much like every other Young Republican out there. 4.We look at things differently as far as social issues are concerned. It is those in the NRA, Tea Party and Koch army that have made me angrier and angrier with those in this party.5. I do not understand how you people call yourselves Republicans when Reagan, the hero of the party, was more liberal than the majority of these Tea Partiers.
6.The establishment of the Libertarian Party is probably the best thing for us at this time. This way we can just go our separate ways. 7. Us in the GOP will continue to try and convert moderate Dems to the financial logic we present without having to answer the issues that radicals in our party bring to the table. Keep nominating Gary Johnson or whatever with his 10 k votes and we can go back to trying to win elections.
1. So, what are these statistics you speak of? Logic alone is not an argument, facts supporting that logic, or facts and logic, however; are. Neither of which you have proven to me yet.
2. As stated in my previous response, I will consider your opinions made up until you refute them.
3. I am only three years older than you, even I cannot fathom such thinking as "progress" as so defined by you and your so-called "young republican" friends. Progress is positive, not destructive.
4. Indeed. I think the party should be unified, not rife with division. My father is a member of the NRA, he is as nice as a person you could ever meet, so why should he be blamed for the alleged destruction of the Republican party? Your anger at the NRA is simply anger at their beliefs, not for any other reason. Your anger at Koch is simply anger at their wealth, not for any other purpose. And why aren't you angry at Monsanto?
5. I never said I was a Republican, now did I?
6. Your unwillingness to meet in the middle will be your undoing. As well as the GOP's. The cancer in a person's blood does not discriminate against itself, it proceeds in its deadly task. Even a disease has more resolve than the party that calls themselves Republican or Democrat. Please for pete's sake, stop bickering with each other.
7. See No. 6.
8. I didn't nominate Gary Johnson, I voted for Romney and McCain, that is until I found out how fruitless voting for establishment candidates could be. A party that can't meet with everyone at the table is like saying King Arthur sought the Holy Grail with only half of his knights.
You have yet to provide any statistics either, but that is because we have been using mostly anecdotal evidence. I support gun regulation because it makes sense. Guns kill twice as many people then cancer does in this country. WE kill more people via firearm than any, repeat ANY other nation in the industrialized world. Heck just take a look at this graph.http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/27091/large/GunHomicideByCountry4_7_13.jpg?1365387268. We have a gun problem and we have a bigger problem, we cant admit it. We love our guns. I live in a nice NJ suburb and have friends with guns, but I also live next to Trenton. A place that kills so many kids via firearms yearly, its absurd. Its even more absurd that they can just go across the border to PA, grab a gun from some random auction, no paper work needed, come back and kill whoever.
Now, progressive in the sense of gay-rights, marijuana, abortion. I have bigger issues to deal with like college loans and the economy to be worried about wether gays get married or not. Socially progressive means moving our society forward, not backwards. Which is what we would be doing if we were to make guns more available
Yes, my anger is with the NRA. The policies they support so that some of their members wont have to wait in line a little longer or can sell their weapons at auction is directly related to inner city violence that kills more kids every year. 70% of our homicides are committed by guns, most other nations like the U.K. hover around 11 percent.
My unwillingness to meet in the middle of people in my party is justified because of the nonsense that they spew on a daily basis. They say that they are Republicans, but if Eisenhower or a Republican from an older generation were running today, heck even Reagan, they would label them as a RINO. You cant do anything with a person like that.
If you don't want to vote for establishment candidates then you are just wasting your vote. Ya, I get it, no vote is wasted, blah blah, but it is. If the Tea Partiers or Libertarians don't want to get on board with a sensible candidate who doesn't go Santorum crazy on social issues or has the foreign policy of crazy ass Rand Paul, then hop off, we don't need you.
1. So, what are these statistics you speak of? Logic alone is not an argument, facts supporting that logic, or facts and logic, however; are. Neither of which you have proven to me yet.
2. As stated in my previous response, I will consider your opinions made up until you refute them.
3. I am only three years older than you, even I cannot fathom such thinking as "progress" as so defined by you and your so-called "young republican" friends. Progress is positive, not destructive.
4. Indeed. I think the party should be unified, not rife with division. My father is a member of the NRA, he is as nice as a person you could ever meet, so why should he be blamed for the alleged destruction of the Republican party? Your anger at the NRA is simply anger at their beliefs, not for any other reason. Your anger at Koch is simply anger at their wealth, not for any other purpose. And why aren't you angry at Monsanto?
5. I never said I was a Republican, now did I?
6. Your unwillingness to meet in the middle will be your undoing. As well as the GOP's. The cancer in a person's blood does not discriminate against itself, it proceeds in its deadly task. Even a disease has more resolve than the party that calls themselves Republican or Democrat. Please for pete's sake, stop bickering with each other.
7. See No. 6.
8. I didn't nominate Gary Johnson, I voted for Romney and McCain, that is until I found out how fruitless voting for establishment candidates could be. A party that can't meet with everyone at the table is like saying King Arthur sought the Holy Grail with only half of his knights.
You have yet to provide any statistics either, but that is because we have been using mostly anecdotal evidence. I support gun regulation because it makes sense. Guns kill twice as many people then cancer does in this country. WE kill more people via firearm than any, repeat ANY other nation in the industrialized world. Heck just take a look at this graph.http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/27091/large/GunHomicideByCountry4_7_13.jpg?1365387268. We have a gun problem and we have a bigger problem, we cant admit it. We love our guns. I live in a nice NJ suburb and have friends with guns, but I also live next to Trenton. A place that kills so many kids via firearms yearly, its absurd. Its even more absurd that they can just go across the border to PA, grab a gun from some random auction, no paper work needed, come back and kill whoever.
Now, progressive in the sense of gay-rights, marijuana, abortion. I have bigger issues to deal with like college loans and the economy to be worried about wether gays get married or not. Socially progressive means moving our society forward, not backwards. Which is what we would be doing if we were to make guns more available
Yes, my anger is with the NRA. The policies they support so that some of their members wont have to wait in line a little longer or can sell their weapons at auction is directly related to inner city violence that kills more kids every year. 70% of our homicides are committed by guns, most other nations like the U.K. hover around 11 percent.
My unwillingness to meet in the middle of people in my party is justified because of the nonsense that they spew on a daily basis. They say that they are Republicans, but if Eisenhower or a Republican from an older generation were running today, heck even Reagan, they would label them as a RINO. You cant do anything with a person like that.
If you don't want to vote for establishment candidates then you are just wasting your vote. Ya, I get it, no vote is wasted, blah blah, but it is. If the Tea Partiers or Libertarians don't want to get on board with a sensible candidate who doesn't go Santorum crazy on social issues or has the foreign policy of crazy ass Rand Paul, then hop off, we don't need you.
how come those killings are not happening in pa where they get the guns from
like they are in trenton
My birthday is October 15th so yeah. I was old enough. 1. I support a women's right to choose because, statistics and logic has told me that it is the correct the decision. 2. I don't make up opinions because other Republicans have them, I think about them. 3.Yes, I am socially progressive, much like every other Young Republican out there. 4.We look at things differently as far as social issues are concerned. It is those in the NRA, Tea Party and Koch army that have made me angrier and angrier with those in this party.5. I do not understand how you people call yourselves Republicans when Reagan, the hero of the party, was more liberal than the majority of these Tea Partiers.
6.The establishment of the Libertarian Party is probably the best thing for us at this time. This way we can just go our separate ways. 7. Us in the GOP will continue to try and convert moderate Dems to the financial logic we present without having to answer the issues that radicals in our party bring to the table. Keep nominating Gary Johnson or whatever with his 10 k votes and we can go back to trying to win elections.
I will battle anecdotes with anecdotes until someone uses a factual argument. Plain and simple.
1. So, what are these statistics you speak of? Logic alone is not an argument, facts supporting that logic, or facts and logic, however; are. Neither of which you have proven to me yet.
2. As stated in my previous response, I will consider your opinions made up until you refute them.
3. I am only three years older than you, even I cannot fathom such thinking as "progress" as so defined by you and your so-called "young republican" friends. Progress is positive, not destructive.
4. Indeed. I think the party should be unified, not rife with division. My father is a member of the NRA, he is as nice as a person you could ever meet, so why should he be blamed for the alleged destruction of the Republican party? Your anger at the NRA is simply anger at their beliefs, not for any other reason. Your anger at Koch is simply anger at their wealth, not for any other purpose. And why aren't you angry at Monsanto?
5. I never said I was a Republican, now did I?
6. Your unwillingness to meet in the middle will be your undoing. As well as the GOP's. The cancer in a person's blood does not discriminate against itself, it proceeds in its deadly task. Even a disease has more resolve than the party that calls themselves Republican or Democrat. Please for pete's sake, stop bickering with each other.
7. See No. 6.
8. I didn't nominate Gary Johnson, I voted for Romney and McCain, that is until I found out how fruitless voting for establishment candidates could be. A party that can't meet with everyone at the table is like saying King Arthur sought the Holy Grail with only half of his knights.
You have yet to provide any statistics either, but that is because we have been using mostly anecdotal evidence. 1.I support gun regulation because it makes sense. Guns kill twice as many people then cancer does in this country. 2. WE kill more people via firearm than any, repeat ANY other nation in the industrialized world. Heck just take a look at this graph.http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/27091/large/GunHomicideByCountry4_7_13.jpg?1365387268. We have a gun problem and we have a bigger problem, we cant admit it. We love our guns. I live in a nice NJ suburb and have friends with guns, but I also live next to Trenton. 3.A place that kills so many kids via firearms yearly, its absurd. Its even more absurd that they can just go across the border to PA, grab a gun from some random auction, no paper work needed, come back and kill whoever.
Now, progressive in the sense of gay-rights, marijuana, abortion. I have bigger issues to deal with like college loans and the economy to be worried about whether gays get married or not. 4. Socially progressive means moving our society forward, not backwards. Which is what we would be doing if we were to make guns more available.
1a.Yes, my anger is with the NRA. The policies they support so that some of their members wont have to wait in line a little longer or can sell their weapons at auction is directly related to inner city violence that kills more kids every year. 70% of our homicides are committed by guns, most other nations like the U.K. hover around 11 percent.
5. My unwillingness to meet in the middle of people in my party is justified because of the nonsense that they spew on a daily basis. They say that they are Republicans, but if Eisenhower or a Republican from an older generation were running today, heck even Reagan, they would label them as a RINO. You cant do anything with a person like that.
6. If you don't want to vote for establishment candidates then you are just wasting your vote. Ya, I get it, no vote is wasted, blah blah, but it is. If the Tea Partiers or Libertarians don't want to get on board with a sensible candidate who doesn't go Santorum crazy on social issues or has the foreign policy of crazy ass Rand Paul, then hop off, we don't need you.
bigrebnc is very big on insults, particularly when he is not adding to the discussion. This is what he does. Not a smart person at all.
The discussion is clear: the treaty is good, it limit terrorists from getting firearms, and it is not unconstitutional.
And you repay insults with insults? How exactly does that absolve you?
My first paragraph points out how bigreb is at fault, correctly.
The second paragraph adds to the discussion.
John Kerry is a good man you can trust ................ now all we need is the sheeple to trust in the authorities as in this video:
Trust in the Authorities
bigrebnc is very big on insults, particularly when he is not adding to the discussion. This is what he does. Not a smart person at all.
The discussion is clear: the treaty is good, it limit terrorists from getting firearms, and it is not unconstitutional.
bigrebnc is very big on insults, particularly when he is not adding to the discussion. This is what he does. Not a smart person at all.
The discussion is clear: the treaty is good, it limit terrorists from getting firearms, and it is not unconstitutional.
Indeed.
The treaty's quality is reflected in the fact that only terrorists and the NRA support it.
I just put the trolls on ignore mode.
Yes, we know, that's on the PostIt note stuck on your computer.
Don't forget the one next to it that reminds you to put your pants on.
Are you drunk or is grammar a new thing you're learning?
Ah, so now you're onto the big page of insults on your wall?
The irony of this one is particularly good.
Are you drunk or is grammar a new thing you're learning?
Ah, so now you're onto the big page of insults on your wall?
The irony of this one is particularly good.
Go back too your sheep she misses you.
Ah, so now you're onto the big page of insults on your wall?
The irony of this one is particularly good.
Go back too your sheep she misses you.
Hah!
You've used that one already.
You should cross them out as you go so that you don't repeat yourself.
