Lawmakers DESTROY thousands of low education jobs for the poor

[Avatar4321]

That isn't correct. The government is responsible for moving the manufacturing base out of this country and they aren't rescuing jack.

How is the government responsible for the manufacturing base moving offshore? Did they tell all of the clothing retailers "You must get your good manufactured in China or Bangla Desh"? No they did not. Did they tell corporations to sit on billions of dollars while sending American jobs overseas?

And yet if manufacturing was on the rise in the US, you'd be the first to say that private enterprise made it happen, not the government.

You can't suck and blow at the same time, unless you are a conservative.

By artificially jacking up the cost of labor in this country.

Think for once.

 

[Sallow]

That isn't correct. The government is responsible for moving the manufacturing base out of this country and they aren't rescuing jack.

How is the government responsible for the manufacturing base moving offshore? Did they tell all of the clothing retailers "You must get your good manufactured in China or Bangla Desh"? No they did not. Did they tell corporations to sit on billions of dollars while sending American jobs overseas?

And yet if manufacturing was on the rise in the US, you'd be the first to say that private enterprise made it happen, not the government.

You can't suck and blow at the same time, unless you are a conservative.

Some of this is correct.

Our government has given tax breaks and entitlements to companies that offshore. It started in the 50s under Eisenhower, but really took off during the middle of the Clinton administration after the telecommunication upgrades and boom.

It went into overdrive during the Bush administration and he could have easily dealt with it.

 

[Oddball]

I agree that DC's demands are out-of-control.
I'm just ranting on Walamrt because they set a precedent with the Walmarting of America when it comes to wage growth.
Several years ago, The Atlantic Monthly had an article called "The Walmarting of America" and the article accurately projected Walmart's effect on wages and the decline of the middle class. Since then I have seen the article's projection become reality. Thus my total distain for Walmart.

What economically ignorant, contemptible, complete bullshit.

Wally World didn't invent the low wage entry-level job and there certainly would be scads of them in their absence.

You haters really need to get a fucking clue and grow up.

Prove me wrong.

The proof is every McDonald's, car wash, gas station, convenience store, diner, etcetera in the nation, that pays low entry-level wages.

You would have to be playing stupid on purpose to not recognize that.

 

[Contumacious]

Cool.

I hope the mayor doesn't veto the measure.

I hope not either. The LAST thing DC needs is 1800 new jobs.

What DC doesn't need is a monster like WalMart that opens up in town, closes down the competing stores..and provides 1800 "jobs" lost from the places they closed down at lower wages and no benefits placing a greater burden on government resources.

I fully concur. Long live socialism, long live fascism. Destroy DC and turn it into another Somalia.

.

 

[Duped]

A minimum wage job is for entry into the work force, for experience. Of course you can't live on that, but your employer who takes the risk is suppose to be the one who makes a good living. I f he, or she can't, those jobs are not availible; those oppertunities - what the fuck is wrong with you liberals? Let the free market sort it out. If the wage is not enough, don't work there. If the prices are too high, don't buy there.

 

[Darkwind]

A minimum wage job is for entry into the work force, for experience. Of course you can't live on that, but your employer who takes the risk is suppose to be the one who makes a good living. I f he, or she can't, those jobs are not availible; those oppertunities - what the fuck is wrong with you liberals? Let the free market sort it out. If the wage is not enough, don't work there. If the prices are too high, don't buy there.

What?

You mean act without first consulting your Government masters?

Are you nucking futs?

 

[RadioRefugee]

man oh man, singling out a certain chain of stores...?this has the Union and Democrats hands all over it..

remember the baker, Hostess? drove them out of business

progressives-Commies really stand for REGRESSIVE

now more people get to go on the TAXPAYER DOLE thanks to these politicians

It's as close to a bill of attainder as possible. Leftwad work for sure.

 

[RadioRefugee]

If I own a store which has ten employees, and I pay all of them minimum wage, then according to the bleeding hearts' Walmart argument, most, if not all, of them are going to end up on the welfare tit.

But since I don't employ many thousands of workers, I don't make it onto the bleeding heart radar as a bad employer for paying my workers a minimum amount established by the government.

The minimum wage Walmart pays employees is NO DIFFERENT than the minimum wage a mom and pop pays.

All those mom and pop stores glorified and sanctified by liberals are also paying minimum wage and, when looked at in the aggregate, are contributing to the welfare load just as much as Walmart.

And they don't enjoy the economies of scale so...the customers don't enjoy the savings associated with the economies of scale.

That damned free market screwing up leftwad paradise again.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Walmart employees (excuse me..associates) having to use food stamps and emergency rooms?

So, no target or k-mart anywhere in the country has employees on food stamps or using the emergency room?

So you mean to say that no minimum wage job in the country has a single employee on food stamps? And not a one of them uses the emergency room?

Walmart is the only business in the country that has accomplished this feat?

Walmart is the only one of these businesses that puts up pamphlets in it's employee (my bad again, associates) lounges on how to apply for government assistance.

And to my knowledge, Target provides benefits to even part timers.

7 Companies Offering Health Care Benefits and Other Perks to Part-Time Workers - ABC News

the way BO and his minions are going about destroying healthcare as well as the job market.....it's no wonder WalMart has taken to the term "associates" instead of full-time employees......

pretty soon everybody's going to be working as an "associate"......on a Form 1099 Misc......

 

[National Socialist]

Total bullshit.

I heard that garbage in the late '80s when Wally World was contemplating building a store in Steamboat Springs...All the know-nothing naysayers were saying that it would be the doom of Lincoln Avenue, the main commercial drag....Well, it wasn't.

Time for the economic ignoramuses and outright haters to shut their bullshitting yappers.

I have seen it time and again..its happening right here in my town I live in...several places are going or have gone out of business since the super wal mart was built.

SO WHAT?
They wouldn't be there if the people didn't want them there...You idiots would rather the poor pay higher prices to satisfy your grudge against Wallmart...Well NOW THEY GET TOO...happy?

I am poor dumb ass....I would rather a BILLION dollar store pay its employees it treats like slaves a decent fucking wage.

My city voted down a Wal Mart last year, would have given jobs to 800 people in one of our poorest neighborhoods. There are two other Wal Marts on either side of town, but not close enough for these people. Given that my city is majorly liberal, I was not surprised. Turns out as it may, that Liberals wish to keep people poor and reliant on the government instead of on their own effort. I find that to be pretty sad in earnest. Wtf liberals? Just wtf are you thinking? You want to fight poverty by encouraging it. How does that work? You encourage independence by causing dependence. Seriously, what the actual fuck people?

Sigh....

I have been to Athens love that town...I know where both Wal Marts are there is no need for another one.

You don't like the wages Wal Mart pays?....
Don't work there...

It doesn't get any simpler then that.
go ahead and apply for a job some where else and demand $50.00 per hr.

Your tone would change if you had to work there...see if you can survive off 8.90$ an hour and 35 hours a week

Your tone would change if you had to pay $50.00 for a 6-pack of sweat socks.

Why would I do that? How about Wal Mart stop being cheap fucks and letting their rich cocksucking vp's and executive use the backs of its slaves to get rich and say well I am rich fuck you live off of 8$ an hour...I fucking hate rich people...fucking hate them...You can easily afford to pay every employee a livable wage but refuse to yet your executives make millions every year..how fucking convenient.I hope Wal Mart crashes and fucking burns.

 

[RadioRefugee]

But thanks to Obama, manufacturing is moving BACK to the US. I'd call it a "rescue".

God bless Solyndra, Baby!

 

[rdean]

Yeah! Fuck those jobs and the people who need them in DC!

Oh, and your estimation stinks like you just pulled it out of your ass.

Who cares?

Honest to God, what's the point?

Know who gets fucked here? dimocraps.

Know who gets butchered in Chicago every weekend? dimocraps.

Know who has to live in the filth and crime of Dee-Troit where there is NO ambulance service, no Police that will even bother to show up, potholes with streets around them, fat politicians getting even fatter, no jobs, off-the-scale crime, a literacy rate worse than any third world Country, unwed mothers at a 90% + rate, etc ad nauseam?

dimocraps.

Let them live like the pigs and low-life scum they are. They deserve it.

And one more thing -- They ain't never gonna change. No matter what, no matter what kind of shithole they live in where the live cockroaches are eating the dead cockroaches, toilets don't work, garbage just lays in the kitchen for weeks at a time, burnt up sofas in the yard, old cars leaking all over the backyard, children can go days without having their diaper changed, diseases, drunkenness, drug abuse, mental disorders, preggo at 13, illiterate, etc, etc,


They ain't never gonna learn. In fact, I swear to God -- I think they like living that way.

Let them live like that. dimocrap politicans couldn't care less. As long as they keep getting elected and re-elected... (which is what this is all about)

Ain't nothing ever gonna change.

Remember that Asian Lady who started getting their Schools to actually educate kids?

They got rid of her. They WANT to be stupid, dirty and illiterate.

Let 'em

Let's not talk about all the uneducated shit holes in the south that are staunchly republican.

Those are the ones I like to talk about most.

If you are going to pay people LESS than the minimum wage, then you have to give them food stamps. Food stamps for such low wage earners becomes a "business subsidy". Republicans call that "Prosperity through lower wages".

 

[kiwiman127]

I agree that DC's demands are out-of-control.
I'm just ranting on Walamrt because they set a precedent with the Walmarting of America when it comes to wage growth.
Several years ago, The Atlantic Monthly had an article called "The Walmarting of America" and the article accurately projected Walmart's effect on wages and the decline of the middle class. Since then I have seen the article's projection become reality. Thus my total distain for Walmart.

What economically ignorant, contemptible, complete bullshit.

Wally World didn't invent the low wage entry-level job and there certainly would be scads of them in their absence.

You haters really need to get a fucking clue and grow up.

Prove me wrong.

Just to help you out:
A Downward Push: The Impact of Wal-Mart Stores on Retail Wages and Benefits | Barry Eidlin - Academia.edu

Wages and the Wal-Mart Effect - PennTechJOBS

Does Walmart Depress Local Wages? | Daily Yonder | Keep It Rural

 

[Wacky Quacky]

That isn't correct. The government is responsible for moving the manufacturing base out of this country and they aren't rescuing jack.

How is the government responsible for the manufacturing base moving offshore? Did they tell all of the clothing retailers "You must get your good manufactured in China or Bangla Desh"? No they did not. Did they tell corporations to sit on billions of dollars while sending American jobs overseas?

And yet if manufacturing was on the rise in the US, you'd be the first to say that private enterprise made it happen, not the government.

You can't suck and blow at the same time, unless you are a conservative.

Some of this is correct.

Our government has given tax breaks and entitlements to companies that offshore. It started in the 50s under Eisenhower, but really took off during the middle of the Clinton administration after the telecommunication upgrades and boom.

It went into overdrive during the Bush administration and he could have easily dealt with it.

Obama could have stopped it as well. And don't forget that free trade agreements and a lack of tariffs have also driven jobs overseas. That's something both parties whole heartedly support. In other words, both parties (ie the entire government) are responsible. Just as avatar said.

 

[boedicca]

Walmart's pay policy has contributed to the era of flat wages which effects just about everyone's wages in the working class in all sectors, including many of our posters.
But what the hell, they provide cheap merchandise that isn't made in the US and the inferior merchandise made cheap so it's longevity is nice and short. That guarantees Walmart repeat business so they can sell more crap that doesn't last.

The bigger impact on flat wages is lack of economic growth. When there is an excess supply of labor, wages suffer.

Our government has done far more to cause this flattening than any one business.

If there was no "economic growth", why the heck are they opening new stores?

Altruism?

To gain market share, you ignoramus.

 

[boedicca]

Utter nonsense.

Look around the neighborhood of any Walmart,anywhere and you will find hundreds of not thousands of thriving businesses.....or, they would be thriving if the government stopped crushing businesses with regulations.

However, there are literally hundreds of business around most Walmart locations that are in towns.

You haven't proven causality. Many small towns are dying due to lack of a manufacturing base. A Wal-mart coming into town can actually save jobs, and improve the lives of people whose incomes have been decimated.

Woa!!!!, they lost their manufacturing base due to walmart in part.... people want cheap crap so walmart buys and sells from China for example and not from U.S. factorys...

Really? Wal-Mart imports cheap COAL and OIL and CARS...and pre-made HOUSES?

Our business and fossil fuel hating government does far more to destroy jobs via overreaching regulations than Wal-Mart does by providing cheap sweat pants.

 

[Spoonman]

Cool.

I hope the mayor doesn't veto the measure.

I hope not either. The LAST thing DC needs is 1800 new jobs.

What DC doesn't need is a monster like WalMart that opens up in town, closes down the competing stores..and provides 1800 "jobs" lost from the places they closed down at lower wages and no benefits placing a greater burden on government resources.

have you ever been to DC? What competing stores?

 

[boedicca]

Walmart's pay policy has contributed to the era of flat wages which effects just about everyone's wages in the working class in all sectors, including many of our posters.
But what the hell, they provide cheap merchandise that isn't made in the US and the inferior merchandise made cheap so it's longevity is nice and short. That guarantees Walmart repeat business so they can sell more crap that doesn't last.

The bigger impact on flat wages is lack of economic growth. When there is an excess supply of labor, wages suffer.

Our government has done far more to cause this flattening than any one business.

There isn't any economic growth because the consumer isn't spending.
Why isn't the consumer spending? Well with flat wages the working class has less and less expendable income. Considering 70% of our economy is driven by consumer spending, flat wages are killing our economy. Does government determine wages? NO!

The government's overreaching regulations and tax policies make U.S. labor for more expensive than just the wages. And ObamaCare isn't helping.

You have a very poor understanding of economics, bub.

 

[Katzndogz]

Walmart's pay policy has contributed to the era of flat wages which effects just about everyone's wages in the working class in all sectors, including many of our posters.
But what the hell, they provide cheap merchandise that isn't made in the US and the inferior merchandise made cheap so it's longevity is nice and short. That guarantees Walmart repeat business so they can sell more crap that doesn't last.

How does WalMart's pay policy contribute to the era of flat wages, and union stores which pay exactly the same as WalMart don't. Given that by having to kick in union dues, the actual take home pay of the WalMart worker is actually more than that paid to unionized stores?

 

[Moonglow]

How could you live in DC on a Wal-Mart pay check?