Lesbian Teacher: How I convince kids to accept "gay marriage" starting at 4

[frigidweirdo]

Understand the word "indoctrination". All kids are "indoctrinated". ie, they're basically told how to think, how to speak, it's why kids end up with the same accent as the people they're around. You can't just let kids find their own accept, they learn by copying, or as you put it, indoctrination.

There's no other way around this. Kids have to be indoctrinated.

Now, as we live in society we want kids to follow the rules of society, and to live well together, so we tell them the rules, we teach them the skills so that we have a BETTER SOCIETY.

Don't you think it's a good idea to have people living together in peace? Or do you want conflict?

No, kids are not automatically indoctrinated and teaching them is not the same as indoctrination. That is simply what you want to hide behind in admitting that you want ideology pushed in schools.

I will note that you are STILL avoiding answering about the examples I asked because you do not want to come to terms with the fact you are applying your agreement with this situation selectively based on agreeing with the ideology.

Sure you're indoctrinating them. You've giving them views on things that aren't their views. Mainly because they don't have views and they don't have the skills to necessarily come up with the view on their own.

Yes, I want "ideology" pushed at school.

For example, I want kids to be productive useful members of society who follow the rules of society. That's "ideology".

You sent me the example saying "post #whatever", I couldn't be bothered to go look. So, if you write it, and I see it, then I'll respond. I'm not doing our work, you want me answer, then you do the work.

You need to learn what ideology is.

No, I don't.

People will use the term "ideology" for many different things. You're saying that teaching tolerance is "ideology", for me it's just something that any sensible teacher would do.

Oh, and there's a reason why I put "ideology" inside quotation marks..... go figure.

But I assume you agree with me, seeing as you didn't respond to what I said.

You most certainly do...


i·de·ol·o·gy
ˌīdēˈäləjē,ˌidēˈäləjē/
noun

1. 1.
   a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy

And... what's your point here?

I'd just like to add, in China people like to spit on the floor. It's disgusting, they'll spit on the floor of the bus, they'll spit everywhere.

The schools have taught kids that this is disgusting. This came from the politicians at the top. Is it wrong?

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

No, kids are not automatically indoctrinated and teaching them is not the same as indoctrination. That is simply what you want to hide behind in admitting that you want ideology pushed in schools.

I will note that you are STILL avoiding answering about the examples I asked because you do not want to come to terms with the fact you are applying your agreement with this situation selectively based on agreeing with the ideology.

Sure you're indoctrinating them. You've giving them views on things that aren't their views. Mainly because they don't have views and they don't have the skills to necessarily come up with the view on their own.

Yes, I want "ideology" pushed at school.

For example, I want kids to be productive useful members of society who follow the rules of society. That's "ideology".

You sent me the example saying "post #whatever", I couldn't be bothered to go look. So, if you write it, and I see it, then I'll respond. I'm not doing our work, you want me answer, then you do the work.

You need to learn what ideology is.

No, I don't.

People will use the term "ideology" for many different things. You're saying that teaching tolerance is "ideology", for me it's just something that any sensible teacher would do.

Oh, and there's a reason why I put "ideology" inside quotation marks..... go figure.

But I assume you agree with me, seeing as you didn't respond to what I said.

You most certainly do...


i·de·ol·o·gy
ˌīdēˈäləjē,ˌidēˈäləjē/
noun

1. 1.
   a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy

And... what's your point here?

I'd just like to add, in China people like to spit on the floor. It's disgusting, they'll spit on the floor of the bus, they'll spit everywhere.

The schools have taught kids that this is disgusting. This came from the politicians at the top. Is it wrong?

Spitting on the floor creates a bio-hazard, which is bad. That isn't an idea, that common-fucking-sense.

 

[Papageorgio]

Public schools are more about indoctrination than education. One more reason to home school your children.

Yeah, bring your kids up to hate others, and to lack social skills and many other skills.

Prove that home schooling will short children in many other skills.

Home school and charter school kids do great.

That's why I'm asking him to prove his claim. He is terribly ignorant on many levels. He has an agenda of acceptance and you can't force people to accept an agenda. He ignores logic to set his agenda.

 

[easyt65]

Again, if you're hired to teach math, teach math. You aren't hired to undermine the morals, values, and religious beliefs the parenrs are teaching / instilling in their kids.
You want to teach kids homosexualiy / same-sex marriages are ok, Islam is ok, having sex with goats is ok, or anything else go have your own kids and teach them that stuff.

This teacher just admitted to purposefully abusing / using her position to program impressionable kids to accept HER chosen lifestyle.... 'You're fired.'

Who gets to decide what is right / wrong for these kids? Who has a right to make that call? The government? No. This lesbian teacher? No. The parents. This is just another example how schools have become 'indoctrination camps'.

"Little Bobby can't read, but he knows how to masterbate, knows how to have sex, & knows abortions / lesbians / democrats are good."

Well isn't that special....

 

[Clementine]

Yeah, teaching tolerance, disgusting. She should be teaching them how to kill gay people, and learn to say "n*gger" every five minutes too.

Gays are killed in Muslim countries. And I only hear liberals use the "n" word.

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah, teaching tolerance, disgusting. She should be teaching them how to kill gay people, and learn to say "n*gger" every five minutes too.

Gays are killed in Muslim countries. And I only hear liberals use the "n" word.

I did.a.search of the.word.****** on this site.some.time back and found that it was used 99 percent of the time by ravtard when she was calling other ppl,who never used the.word, racist... The lefties also like to accuse me of wanting to end illegal immigration because I hate "brown babies"...knowing full well that my kids are native.and my granddaughter and grandson are of Hispanic descent...both grandparents from Mexico.

They accuse us of hating them when in reality, they hate us...and think that by accusing us of the same that excuses them.

 

[Clementine]

I did.a.search of the.word.****** on this site.some.time back and found that it was used 99 percent of the time by ravtard when she was calling other ppl,who never used the.word, racist... The lefties also like to accuse me of wanting to end illegal immigration because I hate "brown babies"...knowing full well that my kids are native.and my granddaughter and grandson are of Hispanic descent...both grandparents from Mexico.

They accuse us of hating them when in reality, they hate us...and think that by accusing us of the same that excuses them.

You are right. They can't argue on policies so they go right to race or gender.

I know plenty of Hispanic citizens who are concerned about illegal immigration. Their concerns are exactly like many of us and it has nothing to do with ethnicity.

I also know gay people who are sick and tired of all the stupid demands, like the bathroom issue. Bathroom use is determined by your physical traits. Deal with it. If a man wants to use a ladies room, he better look like a lady.

Liberals think in terms of race and gender and they are forever putting words in our mouths because they don't have a good argument. Debating is never an option. They go right to name calling and labelling because it's all they've got.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sure you're indoctrinating them. You've giving them views on things that aren't their views. Mainly because they don't have views and they don't have the skills to necessarily come up with the view on their own.

Yes, I want "ideology" pushed at school.

For example, I want kids to be productive useful members of society who follow the rules of society. That's "ideology".

You sent me the example saying "post #whatever", I couldn't be bothered to go look. So, if you write it, and I see it, then I'll respond. I'm not doing our work, you want me answer, then you do the work.

You need to learn what ideology is.

No, I don't.

People will use the term "ideology" for many different things. You're saying that teaching tolerance is "ideology", for me it's just something that any sensible teacher would do.

Oh, and there's a reason why I put "ideology" inside quotation marks..... go figure.

But I assume you agree with me, seeing as you didn't respond to what I said.

You most certainly do...


i·de·ol·o·gy
ˌīdēˈäləjē,ˌidēˈäləjē/
noun

1. 1.
   a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy

And... what's your point here?

I'd just like to add, in China people like to spit on the floor. It's disgusting, they'll spit on the floor of the bus, they'll spit everywhere.

The schools have taught kids that this is disgusting. This came from the politicians at the top. Is it wrong?

Spitting on the floor creates a bio-hazard, which is bad. That isn't an idea, that common-fucking-sense.

Sure you're indoctrinating them. You've giving them views on things that aren't their views. Mainly because they don't have views and they don't have the skills to necessarily come up with the view on their own.

Yes, I want "ideology" pushed at school.

For example, I want kids to be productive useful members of society who follow the rules of society. That's "ideology".

You sent me the example saying "post #whatever", I couldn't be bothered to go look. So, if you write it, and I see it, then I'll respond. I'm not doing our work, you want me answer, then you do the work.

You need to learn what ideology is.

No, I don't.

People will use the term "ideology" for many different things. You're saying that teaching tolerance is "ideology", for me it's just something that any sensible teacher would do.

Oh, and there's a reason why I put "ideology" inside quotation marks..... go figure.

But I assume you agree with me, seeing as you didn't respond to what I said.

You most certainly do...


i·de·ol·o·gy
ˌīdēˈäləjē,ˌidēˈäləjē/
noun

1. 1.
   a system of ideas and ideals, especially one that forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy

And... what's your point here?

I'd just like to add, in China people like to spit on the floor. It's disgusting, they'll spit on the floor of the bus, they'll spit everywhere.

The schools have taught kids that this is disgusting. This came from the politicians at the top. Is it wrong?

Spitting on the floor creates a bio-hazard, which is bad. That isn't an idea, that common-fucking-sense.

Yes, spitting is bad. So is treating people differently because of how they were born. Both are "common-fucking sense", however in China it's a political issue with spitting and in the US it's a political issue with gay people.

So... what's the difference?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Again, if you're hired to teach math, teach math. You aren't hired to undermine the morals, values, and religious beliefs the parenrs are teaching / instilling in their kids.
You want to teach kids homosexualiy / same-sex marriages are ok, Islam is ok, having sex with goats is ok, or anything else go have your own kids and teach them that stuff.

This teacher just admitted to purposefully abusing / using her position to program impressionable kids to accept HER chosen lifestyle.... 'You're fired.'

Who gets to decide what is right / wrong for these kids? Who has a right to make that call? The government? No. This lesbian teacher? No. The parents. This is just another example how schools have become 'indoctrination camps'.

"Little Bobby can't read, but he knows how to masterbate, knows how to have sex, & knows abortions / lesbians / democrats are good."

Well isn't that special....

Primary school teachers are hired to teach EVERYTHING. They're there to give kids a well rounded education, that includes reading and writing, it also includes discipline and social cohesion.

 

[easyt65]

No, they are not hired to teach 'everything'. Teaching kids that aren't theirs that the lesbian lifestyle is ok because they chose that / because its ok for them is not ok.

In Muslim countries homosexuality is forbidden...but a grown man having sex with a little boy is ok because they see that as acceptible. You want a Muslim teacher teaching your little boy its ok for adults to have sex with them because that teacher believes it is ok and their culture believes it is ok? No you wouldn't....

 

[couch protester]

There is a border line for what educators could teach in grammer school. Social science is not one of them. Adolescents are taught basic textbook curriculum, not gender ethics. If so, then white students should be taught racism ethics, discrimination ethics, prejudicial ethics, Islam ethics etc. While Muslim students should be taught Jewish tolerance. Black students should be taught obedience to law. But as you see how ridiculous it seems, teaching gay awareness is just as absurd. Prayer and pledge of allegiance to the Unied States of America is absent from class, now replaced by pledging allegiance to the united way of being gay or else you're a homophobe. Learn gayism or else.

 

[FA_Q2]

Teaching tolerance of tolerance for evil, wicked sexual deviation and perversion (homosexuality) is an evil and wicked thing.

And then we get onto projecting.

No, homosexuality is not evil. But you've been taught it is so.

This is why we need to teach kids, so they don't end up thinking ridiculous things like you do.

Here we are, back to the indoctrination part.

Understand the word "indoctrination". All kids are "indoctrinated". ie, they're basically told how to think, how to speak, it's why kids end up with the same accent as the people they're around. You can't just let kids find their own accept, they learn by copying, or as you put it, indoctrination.

There's no other way around this. Kids have to be indoctrinated.

Now, as we live in society we want kids to follow the rules of society, and to live well together, so we tell them the rules, we teach them the skills so that we have a BETTER SOCIETY.

Don't you think it's a good idea to have people living together in peace? Or do you want conflict?

No, kids are not automatically indoctrinated and teaching them is not the same as indoctrination. That is simply what you want to hide behind in admitting that you want ideology pushed in schools.

I will note that you are STILL avoiding answering about the examples I asked because you do not want to come to terms with the fact you are applying your agreement with this situation selectively based on agreeing with the ideology.

Sure you're indoctrinating them. You've giving them views on things that aren't their views. Mainly because they don't have views and they don't have the skills to necessarily come up with the view on their own.

Yes, I want "ideology" pushed at school.

For example, I want kids to be productive useful members of society who follow the rules of society. That's "ideology".

You sent me the example saying "post #whatever", I couldn't be bothered to go look. So, if you write it, and I see it, then I'll respond. I'm not doing our work, you want me answer, then you do the work.

I did the work. I typed it out here. You ignored it because it is inconvenient. i then pointed to the post in question and you STILL avoid it.

After all that you have the gall to demand that I have not done the work. Whatever - you want to be the dishonest hack, so be it. It is obvious that you are not interested in actual conversation because you are ACTIVELY avoiding it.

It is apparent that you do not have a real answer because you feel the need to demand your political and personal views should be taught at schools. You will sit here and whine when those view turn against what you believe but you will only have yourself to blame after supporting such trash.

 

[FA_Q2]

individual freedoms to be who you wish to be. A conservative belief the last time I checked??

Individual freedom doesn't give you the right to force views on 4 year old children, this is a family matter, not some crusty old lesbian

As a teacher you're going to "force your views".

But I agree, as an individual she shouldn't be forcing her views, as a society what she is saying should be forced on kids, not just a few teachers in a few schools, but all schools. Don't like it, go home schooling.

As a piss poor teacher that is what you do.

As a good teacher your class should end the year without any clue as to what your political or personal views are. I have had many good teachers throughout my life - couldn't tell you what any of their political pr personal views were - they focused on actually teaching us instead.

You're putting your adult stuff onto kids. Just because something is political for adults, doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught to kids.

Tolerance should be taught. It's only politics because there are intolerant people out there who seem to think that intolerance is the staple of their political thought. This is rather sad.

If there is bullying in the classroom, should you stop it from happening and try and make kids aware of why it is bad? A good teacher will. this is their "personal view", some teachers don't stop it. By stopping it for all time, you're "indoctrinating" kids.

English. When you bother understanding what words like indoctrination actually mean I may bother with your inane blathering. It is apparent that you want indoctrination to mean something that it does not nor are you actually interes5ted in constructive conversation so there is little point in educating you on it.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And then we get onto projecting.

No, homosexuality is not evil. But you've been taught it is so.

This is why we need to teach kids, so they don't end up thinking ridiculous things like you do.

Here we are, back to the indoctrination part.

Understand the word "indoctrination". All kids are "indoctrinated". ie, they're basically told how to think, how to speak, it's why kids end up with the same accent as the people they're around. You can't just let kids find their own accept, they learn by copying, or as you put it, indoctrination.

There's no other way around this. Kids have to be indoctrinated.

Now, as we live in society we want kids to follow the rules of society, and to live well together, so we tell them the rules, we teach them the skills so that we have a BETTER SOCIETY.

Don't you think it's a good idea to have people living together in peace? Or do you want conflict?

No, kids are not automatically indoctrinated and teaching them is not the same as indoctrination. That is simply what you want to hide behind in admitting that you want ideology pushed in schools.

I will note that you are STILL avoiding answering about the examples I asked because you do not want to come to terms with the fact you are applying your agreement with this situation selectively based on agreeing with the ideology.

Sure you're indoctrinating them. You've giving them views on things that aren't their views. Mainly because they don't have views and they don't have the skills to necessarily come up with the view on their own.

Yes, I want "ideology" pushed at school.

For example, I want kids to be productive useful members of society who follow the rules of society. That's "ideology".

You sent me the example saying "post #whatever", I couldn't be bothered to go look. So, if you write it, and I see it, then I'll respond. I'm not doing our work, you want me answer, then you do the work.

I did the work. I typed it out here. You ignored it because it is inconvenient. i then pointed to the post in question and you STILL avoid it.

After all that you have the gall to demand that I have not done the work. Whatever - you want to be the dishonest hack, so be it. It is obvious that you are not interested in actual conversation because you are ACTIVELY avoiding it.

It is apparent that you do not have a real answer because you feel the need to demand your political and personal views should be taught at schools. You will sit here and whine when those view turn against what you believe but you will only have yourself to blame after supporting such trash.

Blah, blah, blah.... whinge and moan......

 

[frigidweirdo]

individual freedoms to be who you wish to be. A conservative belief the last time I checked??

Individual freedom doesn't give you the right to force views on 4 year old children, this is a family matter, not some crusty old lesbian

As a teacher you're going to "force your views".

But I agree, as an individual she shouldn't be forcing her views, as a society what she is saying should be forced on kids, not just a few teachers in a few schools, but all schools. Don't like it, go home schooling.

As a piss poor teacher that is what you do.

As a good teacher your class should end the year without any clue as to what your political or personal views are. I have had many good teachers throughout my life - couldn't tell you what any of their political pr personal views were - they focused on actually teaching us instead.

You're putting your adult stuff onto kids. Just because something is political for adults, doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught to kids.

Tolerance should be taught. It's only politics because there are intolerant people out there who seem to think that intolerance is the staple of their political thought. This is rather sad.

If there is bullying in the classroom, should you stop it from happening and try and make kids aware of why it is bad? A good teacher will. this is their "personal view", some teachers don't stop it. By stopping it for all time, you're "indoctrinating" kids.

English. When you bother understanding what words like indoctrination actually mean I may bother with your inane blathering. It is apparent that you want indoctrination to mean something that it does not nor are you actually interes5ted in constructive conversation so there is little point in educating you on it.

Again, more bullshit. I don't know why you bother.

 

[waltky]

Another example of an educated fool.

 

[Esmeralda]

Good for her.

What does a democrat lesbian do after she licks a bald pussy? puts the diaper back on.......

Heck yeah. This is what you want your kids to learn, not tolerance. Heaven forbid, not tolerance but hatred. Raw, ugly, vicious hatred. Cool.

 

[FA_Q2]

Individual freedom doesn't give you the right to force views on 4 year old children, this is a family matter, not some crusty old lesbian

As a teacher you're going to "force your views".

But I agree, as an individual she shouldn't be forcing her views, as a society what she is saying should be forced on kids, not just a few teachers in a few schools, but all schools. Don't like it, go home schooling.

As a piss poor teacher that is what you do.

As a good teacher your class should end the year without any clue as to what your political or personal views are. I have had many good teachers throughout my life - couldn't tell you what any of their political pr personal views were - they focused on actually teaching us instead.

You're putting your adult stuff onto kids. Just because something is political for adults, doesn't mean it shouldn't be taught to kids.

Tolerance should be taught. It's only politics because there are intolerant people out there who seem to think that intolerance is the staple of their political thought. This is rather sad.

If there is bullying in the classroom, should you stop it from happening and try and make kids aware of why it is bad? A good teacher will. this is their "personal view", some teachers don't stop it. By stopping it for all time, you're "indoctrinating" kids.

English. When you bother understanding what words like indoctrination actually mean I may bother with your inane blathering. It is apparent that you want indoctrination to mean something that it does not nor are you actually interes5ted in constructive conversation so there is little point in educating you on it.

Again, more bullshit. I don't know why you bother.

Nor do I. I bring real shit to the table and the best you have is "blah blah blah."

I thought you were not one of the worthless partisan hacks. I was wrong so I won't bother. For the rest of the board it is clear that you have nothing.

 

[rightwinger]

Are you going to teach a four year old that their friends two moms are an abomination?

I doubt it matters to a four year old, so let the parents handle this. It's not a teachers business.

Four year olds understand the concept of family

And let their FAMILY teach them.

Who said their family can't?

Four year old goes to school and sees some kids have a mommy and daddy, some kids have just a grandma, some kids have just a mommy, some have two mommies

They need to understand what a family is

And it is not for the teacher to define what is and is not?

Parents can help a child define what a family is and isn't.

Those families are already defined.....the teacher is just acknowledging it

 

[rightwinger]

What the religious right wants to teach 4 year olds

Now class, most of you have normal God fearing families with a mommy and daddy.......but Tommie and Susie have whores for mommies who never married. Jimmie has two mommies who God hates. Jimmie is going to hell.