Let the nation default?

Should Republicans let the nation default if Democrats refuse to negotiate?

  • Yes, if the Dems won't talk, we should default.

    Votes: 30 47.6%
  • No, we should never default on our debt.

    Votes: 33 52.4%

  • Total voters
    63
According to a July 2013 study by the Center for Economic and Policy Research, an analysis of the Current Population Survey shows that only 0.6 percent of the workforce is currently working just under the 30 hour cutoff for a full-time employee, suggesting "that employers do not appear to be changing hours in large numbers in response to the sanctions in the ACA."

Federal Reserve Bank Of San Francisco Study: Any Effect ACA Has On Reduced Hours For Workers Is "Likely To Be Small."

The FED? Really?

:lol:

And is that the WORKFORCE that is currently EMPLOYED?
 
According to a July 2013 study by the Center for Economic and Policy Research, an analysis of the Current Population Survey shows that only 0.6 percent of the workforce is currently working just under the 30 hour cutoff for a full-time employee, suggesting "that employers do not appear to be changing hours in large numbers in response to the sanctions in the ACA."

Federal Reserve Bank Of San Francisco Study: Any Effect ACA Has On Reduced Hours For Workers Is "Likely To Be Small."

The FED? Really?

:lol:

And is that the WORKFORCE that is currently EMPLOYED?

Well, to know that we would have to rely on the figures from a federal agency.....
 
Yeah.....Unemployment is down 12% from where it was in Feb. 2009.....the economy has been generating an average of 2 million jobs per year since ACA was passed...

There are 1 million FEWER people working part time for economic reasons.

Try to pry your head from Neil Cavuto's rump....

Only ONE million? Really?

Wanna recheck that figure, and PROVIDE A LINK?

He hasn't been here long enough to do links yet. Let me see if I can:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CEgQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJobs_created_during_U.S._presidential_terms&ei=gb1YUouGK8G7igKa0YCIDw&usg=AFQjCNHK_gHFdwsEEIGyy9b6153Jyf8zbw

Subject Areas Home

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&cad=rja&ved=0CGYQFjAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjobs.aol.com%2Farticles%2F2013%2F04%2F17%2Fjob-creation-obama-bush-factcheck%2F&ei=Vb9YUr35FoSLjAKl2oDgCg&usg=AFQjCNGLdEVjyvcAXbWFXMLNs0y0n37-6Q

I can find more, but that should keep you busy explaining how the above are all part of a liberal conspiracy for awhile.

So your best friend Iceberg is a retard not able to keep up his own conversations but needs your help in making a point. Yet that didn't prevent him from claiming to be the smartest person on the board.

Your wingman is a retard. I'm pretty sure by reading your moronic posts you aren't far behind in joining that group.

Welcome to the basement of USMB. Maybe someday you will work yourself out of bottom feeder status. I doubt it though.
 
If someone calls you and threatens to ruin your credit, if you don't do what they want you to do, they can be arrested for extortion.

So can the FBI arrest House Republicans for extortion?

Arrested for doing their Constitutional duty?

Did you actually want to sound foolish?

Republican Congressmen are not doing their Constitutional duty. They were hired to pass bills, pay our country's debts, not hold the country hostage unless they get their way.
 
If the Democrats refuse to talk or compromise just as they have been doing... It's on their heads.

Compromise? You mean give in to the the brats that want to go home with their bat and ball unless the rules are changed so they can win? Bwahahaha!
 
Ah yes, the beer-bellied, cyber-space geezer, badass element. John Wayne don't need no stinking government. Getting past all these Hondos driving on gov't roads and drying their combovers with electricity from gov't dams and eating hamburgers inspected by gov't agencies, they'd be the first ones squealing for help without a gov't to make sure Rogaine didn't grow hair on their palms and Viagra make their heads harder.

As for your fantasy of breaking things off in peoples' arses, well, to each his own.

Curious..How do you feel about the Supreme Leader's opposition to raising the debt limit in 2006 yet his royal highness has been "all in" from the day HE became the King....

so when Bush did it, it was HORRIBLE...yet when Barry does it, it is a "necessity".

hypocritical ass holes.

First, let me say how much I admire a drama queen performance: "Supreme Leader" "King," If you could have added some FEMA re-education camps in an effort to be an oppressed victim instead of somebody trying to deal with being on the losing side in a democracy, I would have nominated you for an Oscar.

Obama's comment? Very political and not very bright. You don't have take my word for that, though, Obama has said so, also. I can only imagine how shocked you must be to find a politician having said something political that wasn't very bright, but I'm told it happens occasionally. In fact, my daughter once gave me a calendar with a bushism for every day of the year.

It wasn't just a mere and measly political posture.

It almost worked.
The vote was 52-48

A few votes, one way or the other, and
:evil:
 
Howdy guys, Ricky here. I've been playing over on the thread where they explain how everything is black peoples' fault. Something about how black people have been hurt more ... blah, blah, blah.

Bigots twisting themselves in knots.

^ lying POS
 
Howdy guys, Ricky here. I've been playing over on the thread where they explain how everything is black peoples' fault. Something about how black people have been hurt more ... blah, blah, blah.

Bigots twisting themselves in knots.

^ lying POS

Bout what? Cuz I'm pretty sure I know which thread he's referring to.

The only reason I'm not positive is because we have so many of them.
 
If someone calls you and threatens to ruin your credit, if you don't do what they want you to do, they can be arrested for extortion.

So can the FBI arrest House Republicans for extortion?

Arrested for doing their Constitutional duty?

Did you actually want to sound foolish?

Republican Congressmen are not doing their Constitutional duty. They were hired to pass bills, pay our country's debts, not hold the country hostage unless they get their way.

Oh, I see. They are supposed to be rubber stampers.

They are not supposed to determine if an item is Constitutional or financially sound.

:cuckoo:
 
Arrested for doing their Constitutional duty?

Did you actually want to sound foolish?

Republican Congressmen are not doing their Constitutional duty. They were hired to pass bills, pay our country's debts, not hold the country hostage unless they get their way.

Oh, I see. They are supposed to be rubber stampers.

They are not supposed to determine if an item is Constitutional or financially sound.

:cuckoo:

Yo hypocrite, the cons holding this country hostage is unconstitutional. If they want to repeal healthcare, or balance the budget, there is a constitutional way to do it, and they're not. Your efforts to defend terrorists makes you a terrorist and a traitor to America.
 
The history of defaulting is very bad. A nation within south America use to be the riches nation of that part of the world but because of default it isn't anymore.

Half of its wealth was destroyed. I will whig the republicans if they do this to us.
 
The history of defaulting is very bad. A nation within south America use to be the riches nation of that part of the world but because of default it isn't anymore.

Half of its wealth was destroyed. I will whig the republicans if they do this to us.

The only person that can default the nation is Obama. And if he does he will be tried for treason.
 
He hasn't been here long enough to do links yet. Let me see if I can:



I can find more, but that should keep you busy explaining how the above are all part of a liberal conspiracy for awhile.

So your best friend Iceberg is a retard not able to keep up his own conversations but needs your help in making a point. Yet that didn't prevent him from claiming to be the smartest person on the board.

Your wingman is a retard. I'm pretty sure by reading your moronic posts you aren't far behind in joining that group.

Welcome to the basement of USMB. Maybe someday you will work yourself out of bottom feeder status. I doubt it though.


Woah, GoatRoper....

This site has a cute feature which precludes those with fewer than 15 contributions on record from posting urls...

I invite you to take a look in the upper right hand corner of this post, and subtract 1 from the number displayed.......Now here comes the tricky part.....you're gonna want to subtract that number from 15......I warn you, this involves TWO numbers greater than 9, which constitutes "higher lever 'rithmetic" for graduates of Glenn Beck U.

I'll wait right here while you remove your flip flops and socks.....

Did you come up with something in excess of 15?
 
Howdy guys, Ricky here. I've been playing over on the thread where they explain how everything is black peoples' fault. Something about how black people have been hurt more ... blah, blah, blah.

Bigots twisting themselves in knots.

^ lying POS

Yo, RK....

You sport that facial hair to muffle the sound of the Teabag slapping against your chin?
 
Again - from 2006:

In 2006, while serving his first term as a freshman U.S. senator from Illinois, Barack Obama made the remarks attributed to him above during discussion in the U.S. Senate prior to the call for votes on raising the debt limit.

The full text of his remarks in the Senate on 16 March 2006 are:
Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America's debt problem.

The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can't pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies.

Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is "trillion" with a "T." That is money that we have borrowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President's budget will increase the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.

Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our national debt than we'll spend on Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education, homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.

And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infrastructure like
bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on. Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America's priorities. Instead, interest payments are a significant tax on all Americans — a debt tax that Washington doesn't want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.


But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators Conrad and Feingold, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Previously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was abandoned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending. As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our deficit to historically high levels and borrow more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this administration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years. That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.

Our debt also matters internationally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of foreign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose interests might not be aligned with ours.

Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that "the buck stops here.'' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.

I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America's debt limit.


Again - How quickly the liberals forget and forgive..............

The President and John Boehner agreed on budget that reduced the deficit by $4T over the next 10 years. The Tea Party then forced Boehner to reject that deal.

There certainly is a failure of leadership - a failure of John Boehner as the leader of the House Republicans.

If the Tea Party really wanted deficit reduction, they would have accepted that deal. But they don't want deficit reduction. They just want continued political talking points.

BTW, it's Congress that determines the deficit, not the President. All the Repugs need to do, if they really want to reduce the deficit is to come up with a budget that is near to being reasonable to the President and the Senate. From there they can negoiate - the way that it's always been done.

Instead the Tea Party & Repugs keep making proposals knowing that there is no way in hell the President or the Senate will agree - and constantly create these political crisis's.

It's those political crisis's that are the real goal of the Tea Party - not deficit reduction.

God bless the Tea Party!! :clap2::clap2::clap2:

All that aside however, was it not YOUR boy who made the above remarks?? Back when he exhibited a little sanity?

I noticed that you merely glossed over what your leader said in 2006......
 
The history of defaulting is very bad. A nation within south America use to be the riches nation of that part of the world but because of default it isn't anymore.

Half of its wealth was destroyed. I will whig the republicans if they do this to us.

The only person that can default the nation is Obama. And if he does he will be tried for treason.

Yeah.

Hey, when do the new Faux Echo Chamber Angry Listener notes come out? The old ones are very weak. You need new material.

:thanks:
 
If someone calls you and threatens to ruin your credit, if you don't do what they want you to do, they can be arrested for extortion.

So can the FBI arrest House Republicans for extortion?

We need to elect Constitutionalists and Libertarians.

Then Jesse Ventura in 2016.

Shut down the Federal Rserve, issue debt free money from the US Treasury and try to work on our trade debt by putting the 13 million inventions into production at the US Patent Office and get the 100 million Americans who are unemployed working again.

F*KK the FED andf their debt-slavery system.
 
God bless the Tea Party!! :clap2::clap2::clap2:

All that aside however, was it not YOUR boy who made the above remarks?? Back when he exhibited a little sanity?

I noticed that you merely glossed over what your leader said in 2006......

Let me guess......In 2000, after Bill Clinton had performed a minor miracle by turning the Reagan era deficits into surpluses, you heard Scrub offer his Return to Supply Side Idiocy pitch and said:

"Yeah......I gotta have me some more of that."

and then, in 2004, after Scrub had vaporized the 5 trillion dollar projected cumulative surplus, your response was something along the lines of:

"4 MORE YEARS!"

Then in 2009, you joined your fellow Unrepentant 2 Time Scrub Voting Imbecile Teabaggers in discovering the "Ebils of Deficits"....

Do I have that about right?
 

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