Let's celebrate the Right to Keep and Bear arms...something the rest of the world has surrendered....

[rightwinger]

Please find enough to offset the 1.1 million times a year Americans use their legal guns to save lives according to the CDC...or 1.5 million from the Department of Justice, or 1.67 million from the 2020 Firearms survey......

We will wait.

bullshit number based on gun owners fantasies of “saving lives”

Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use

1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the i…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

 

[rightwinger]

Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Center, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. We found that firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense.

 

[rightwinger]

Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, we investigated how and when guns are used in the home. We found that guns in the home are used more often to frighten intimates than to thwart crime; other weapons are far more commonly used against intruders than are guns.

 

[2aguy]

Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, we investigated how and when guns are used in the home. We found that guns in the home are used more often to frighten intimates than to thwart crime; other weapons are far more commonly used against intruders than are guns.

The ones intimidating intimates are the criminals the democrat party keeps releasing...and they are not allowed to buy, own or carry guns...

 

[2aguy]

We have 2.5 million in prison, higher incarceration rate than anywhere in the world

It is not working
We still have 10,000 murders a year

Yep....the democrats keep letting the violent criminals........if they would stop doing that, we would reduce our gun crime, since it is those repeat offenders who can't buy, own or carry guns who are doing almost all of the shooting.....

Meanwhile, normal Americans with guns use them 1.1 million times a year, according to the CDC, to stop violent rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, and stabbings...or 1.5 million times a year if you use the Department of Justice research.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

government tyranny and murder

Wrong.

The Second Amendment codifies an individual right to possess a firearm pursuant to lawful self-defense, not to engage in lawless treason against a constitutionally elected government reflecting the will of the people through force of arms.

There’s nothing in the history, text, or case law of the Second Amendment that supports insurrectionist dogma.

“An historically sound understanding of the Second Amendment's English heritage belies the proposition that the Second Amendment was intended to grant an individual right to keep or bear arms against governmental tyranny.”

http://malvinartley.com/PDF%20Files/THE%20HIDDEN%20HISTORY%20OF%20THE%20SECOND%20AMENDMENT.pdf

The Framers did not amend the Constitution to authorize the destruction of the Republic they had just created.

 

[White 6]

Is that the one with the holster than can also be worn on the belt?

Yes. Holster can be taken off the straps and worn on belt.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, celebrate your right to bear arms. Like this "responsible" gun owner.

MSN

www.msn.com

That isn't a celebration of the Right, since it was a criminal act....

This....this is a celebration of the Right....Thanks, Votto...

n elderly man and his wife were violently attacked by a home intruder but he was able to shoot and kill the suspect, who was nearly naked at the time.

Pennsylvania State Police said that 54-year-old Steven David Schaffer had tried to get into another home in Berwick Township and other people's cars before he assaulted the couple who are in their seventies.

They said that Schaffer was nude during the attack except for a t-shirt.

During the attack the husband told his wife to get their gun from their bedroom. Police said that Schaffer followed the woman and "violently attacked" her while she tried to retrieve the gun. The husband was able to get the gun and shoot Schaffer several times, killing him.

Elderly man shoots and kills nearly naked home intruder who assaulted him and his wife, PA police say | Blaze Media

An elderly man and his wife were violently attacked by a home intruder but he was able to shoot and kill the suspect, who was nearly naked at the time. Pennsylvania State Police said that 54-year-old Steven David Schaffer had tried to get into another home in Berwick Township and other...

www.theblaze.com

In your country, the couple would have been beaten to death........you must be happy with that...right?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

We have 2.5 million in prison, higher incarceration rate than anywhere in the world

It is not working
We still have 10,000 murders a year

End the war on drugs and a large part of that problem goes away.

 

[Blues Man]

We get to celebrate 32,000 gun deaths a year

Something no other country would tolerate

2/3 of those are death by choice

People do have the right to choose whether they live or die.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There’s nothing in the history, text, or case law of the Second Amendment that supports insurrectionist dogma.

^^^^
This is a lie.

"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Stephens Smith, son-in-law of John Adams, December 20, 1787

"What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever Governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins."
- Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, I Annals of Congress 750, August 17, 1789

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
- Thomas Jefferson, Declaration of Independence

 

[Blues Man]

bullshit number based on gun owners fantasies of “saving lives”

Gun Threats and Self-Defense Gun Use

1-3. Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense We use epidemiological theory to explain why the “false positive” problem for rare events can lead to large overestimates of the i…

www.hsph.harvard.edu

it doesn;'t matter how many times guns are used in self defense.

If even one person used a gun in self defense annually it's more than enough but we all know that it happens far more than that.

 

[Blues Man]

End the war on drugs and a large part of that problem goes away.

enforce all the federal gun laws on the books and that takes care of most of the rest

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Yes, celebrate your right to bear arms. Like this "responsible" gun owner.

MSN

www.msn.com

He could have just as easily used a knife, or a hammer.

 

[Blues Man]

Wrong.

The Second Amendment codifies an individual right to possess a firearm pursuant to lawful self-defense, not to engage in lawless treason against a constitutionally elected government reflecting the will of the people through force of arms.

There’s nothing in the history, text, or case law of the Second Amendment that supports insurrectionist dogma.

“An historically sound understanding of the Second Amendment's English heritage belies the proposition that the Second Amendment was intended to grant an individual right to keep or bear arms against governmental tyranny.”

http://malvinartley.com/PDF%20Files/THE%20HIDDEN%20HISTORY%20OF%20THE%20SECOND%20AMENDMENT.pdf

The Framers did not amend the Constitution to authorize the destruction of the Republic they had just created.

And if that government ever contradicts the will of the people?

 

[westwall]

Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense

Using data from a national random-digit-dial telephone survey conducted under the direction of the Harvard Injury Control Center, we examined the extent and nature of offensive gun use. We found that firearms are used far more often to frighten and intimidate than they are used in self-defense.

EXACTLY! The overwhelming majority of defensive gun uses require brandishing it only!

Present a weapon and bad people flee to go prey on the unarmed.

Duh!

 

[westwall]

We normally break out our machineguns around now, but our range is under 6 feet of snow right now!

 

[Blues Man]

EXACTLY! The overwhelming majority of defensive gun uses require brandishing it only!

Present a weapon and bad people flee to go prey on the unarmed.

Duh!

And it is also an example of the amount of control the average law abiding citizen gun owner exhibits that these would be victimizers aren't shot at a much higher rate than they are.

 

[rightwinger]

EXACTLY! The overwhelming majority of defensive gun uses require brandishing it only!

Present a weapon and bad people flee to go prey on the unarmed.

Duh!

Even when it is YOU who is the bad person

Turning what should be an ordinary argument into a gun confrontation.
My GUN says I am right

 

[Blues Man]

Even when it is YOU who is the bad person

Turning what should be an ordinary argument into a gun confrontation.
My GUN says I am right

And it just doesn't happen as often as you like to think it does.

How many people every year pull a gun over an argument?