Liberal friends, if we regain power

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Well since I have not said all 8 years of Obama was perfect, you do the dreaming.

What I have said is things you say about Obama are not true. And that's because they aren't.

So for 6 years he did not have the house and senate. Also for all 8 years republicans used every procedural rule in the books o stymie anything Obama was trying to do.

It is a shame that you lie like you do.

At least I knew who wrote Mein Kumpf.

Also when Kennedy was alive the Senate was a 60 vote majority, so who is lying?

Also the Democrats lost the Senate in 2014 or did you forget That?

So for the last two years of Obama eight years the House and Senate were GOP, but tell me how I am lying again while you deny reality!

We keep trying to tell jokes do we?

Well in 1960 things were done a little differently than today. Congress was less confrontational and more apt to compromise.

For all 8 years republicans used every procedural rule in the books o stymie anything Obama was trying to do. They obstructed things hey supported before in order to stop Obama. They stood out there telling the dumb like you how we need jobs,asked the president where were the jobs, and when the jobs plan showed up, they filibustered it out of existence.

Seems that these are matters you cannot discuss. Because you're a liar.

Again before Kennedy died the Senate had a 60 vote majority in favor of the Democrats and you are now claiming I am lying still?

So tell me how did Bill Clinton get so much done while having a hostile House that impeached him but Obama failed at every turn?

Simple, like you he ( Obama )was a idealist that never believed in the word compromise.

To you compromise is your way or nothing at all.

So those that won in 2010 were elected to obstruct the President and prevent him from passing more bloated government programs like the ACA that was filled with broken promises and lies because if your doctor is not in network you did not keep that doctor unless you paid out of pocket.

So again you live with the idea those that were elected to do a job should have done everything Obama wanted because to you the President is the dictator of this country but in reality he had to work with Congress to get shit pass and notice Trump has the GOP in the House and Senate and his own party rejects him more time than not.

I know you hate this system and dream of the day True Marxism rises which is never!

All dimshitscum know that oshitasscare was just a way to get NORMAL AMERICANS to accept complete government run healthcare as a way for the dishitscum to kill who they wanted to and spend lavishly on their voter blocks. I know they lie as always and deny it but They use government to assault, intimidate, and extort money from anyone who opposes them when they are in power. It is really evident in the many CRIMES of the oshit administration. Spying on opponents without warrant, using the IRS to assault the rights of conservatives and control their ability to fund elections, attempts to silence dissent by violating first amendment rights of opponents thousand of times illegal payouts to supporters through programs with no oversight. ON AND ON>>>>> when we break up the Trump hit lies WE will expose your idols, and their complicit media for what they are, Communist sympathizers with the agenda to bring this country into line with their fantasy of a worldwide government like the one putin has in Russia. It is incumbent on the Republican party to stop, and eradicate all vestiges of their movement by any means necessary. There should be a unified front to expose, try, and execute all of the oshitscum holdovers that are working inside this government to bring it down and the members of the press who are trying to bring credence to the lies and propaganda dimshits are vomiting daily.

Yawn!

Best reply you had so far.

 

[Billo_Really]

Those ideas are part of the reason the Dim Party has been rejected over 1,000 times and lost 2 historic elections....that and because you're a bunch of racist , sexist, homophobic, anti-Semituc, election/debate-cheating, violent, seditious, corrupt, treasonous, Constitution/law-breaking criminals, obstructionist, self-appointed dictators.

Yeah but I also like a good book, long walks on the beach and single malt scotch.

 

[Wyatt earp]

oh, y'all will be back in power at some point, I have no doubt

Take it FWIW, but I am viewing this time in history as a respite before our nation falls apart and goes the way of the old Roman Empire

we cannot sustain the financial burden we have created for ourselves & we have lost our way insofar as morality and common sense.

I am not sure that 8 years of Trump will be enough to right the ship & undo the damage done before he came in

anyway...

I pretty much agree with this & have said as much in several threads on this forum. In fact, this issue is why I am not 100% thrilled with Sessions as AG.

I do like Sessions & believe him to be an honorable man of good character & integrity, but I do not like his aggressive posture re: the war on drugs

this is just a really bad idea - have you seen the numbers coming out of California?

They are looking to implement this single payer nightmare & the 1st estimates are that it would more than DOUBLE the state budget. And we all know that initial government estimates on costs are always grossly understated

Cali is already struggling to pay its bills, this would wreck them in a way that I am not sure they could recover from

We cannot be all things to all people, we just can't.

Seriously, how the hell do you think we are going to pay for this?

I can get on board with finding a way to provide basic health services to everyone (immunizations, basic check ups & maybe even access to antibiotics; but when it comes to major surgeries & access to cutting edge new medical developments; those that have worked hard & behaved prudently with their money SHOULD have more access

Good decisions should be rewarded. We do not live in a socialist utopia & such a system is truly unsustainable

This idea is a financial train wreck & will ultimately be the destruction of this country

you have not been paying attention to Trump, have you?

Infrastructure repairs were a cornerstone of his agenda

If liberals in power had any sense, they would be reaching out and finding a way to compromise on this issue - it is the right thing to do for the long term viability of this country - we could actually see a "win" that would benefit everyone if liberals would put aside their petty hatred for all things TRUMP and act in the people's best interest; especially on something like this where broad bi-partisan support could be found

invest more in science? I could go either way on this, but based on your #2; it seems that you think we can do this while taking away the financial reward for doing so - not sure if we can find real agreement here or not

Education? needs to be left to states & local governments. Our federal government is already too big & powerful, plus, they screw up just about everything they put their hands on

allow local communities more discretion in how this is addressed, you know, like the Constitution calls for - another issue we will likely not find common ground

no, just hell no

another really bad idea

because economies suffer every time this is done

this would kill jobs and hurt the people you are trying to help

If you really believe there was damage done before Trump and that number 1, Trump is going to get 8 years and number 2, Trump is going to fix something, you've lost already.

The fact is you believe America was perfectly fine during Obama eight years as President.

You are like Obama and believe everything he did was perfect and those that do not agree are racist bigots.

It is sad that LBJ did more for the poor than Obama and let remember for two out of eight years Obama had the House and Senate and failed to get his promise on immigration reform done.

So right there he was a failure while bloating the government too much and wasteful spending as usual.

But let you dream of those eight years of Obama and please remember it was perfect and no one will tell you otherwise!

Well since I have not said all 8 years of Obama was perfect, you do the dreaming.

What I have said is things you say about Obama are not true. And that's because they aren't.

So for 6 years he did not have the house and senate. Also for all 8 years republicans used every procedural rule in the books o stymie anything Obama was trying to do.

It is a shame that you lie like you do.

At least I knew who wrote Mein Kumpf.

Also when Kennedy was alive the Senate was a 60 vote majority, so who is lying?

Also the Democrats lost the Senate in 2014 or did you forget That?

So for the last two years of Obama eight years the House and Senate were GOP, but tell me how I am lying again while you deny reality!

We keep trying to tell jokes do we?

Well in 1960 things were done a little differently than today. Congress was less confrontational and more apt to compromise.

For all 8 years republicans used every procedural rule in the books o stymie anything Obama was trying to do. They obstructed things hey supported before in order to stop Obama. They stood out there telling the dumb like you how we need jobs,asked the president where were the jobs, and when the jobs plan showed up, they filibustered it out of existence.

Seems that these are matters you cannot discuss. Because you're a liar.

One Obama was no leader and refused to comprise with Congress, Obama was a dictator..


Two Obama lost Congress by his own fault shoving Obama CA e down are throat..


Three stop saying Republicans were for the mandate and then against the mandate...they knew if they were for the mandate we would of tossed them.out.



.

 

[Wyatt earp]

How so?

If you are going off the vote totals then you did not count those that did not vote.

So are you claiming those that did not vote are liberals?

Of course you believe that don't you?

In the end you don't know if there are more liberals or conservatives seeing a good amount of people do not vote and a small amount are third party voter and that three million extra came from California but keep on playing your game...

Conservative Or Liberal? Here's What Americans Really Believe

Oh another opinion piece that you believe is correct. How typical and next poll after poll to show America is Liberal to you.

Again you do not know because of the non-voting block but please keep on telling yourself all of America want to be like California while the Electoral College rejected you!

The electoral college did not reject me. I did not run for office. But as you will see, what you stand for will be rejected summarily in short time. Gloat while you can.

Reject what I stand for?

I am Libertarian little Trostky, so I live for rejection.

So do you believe in 2018 Democrats will win the Senate and House and if so do tell me how when the Democrats must defend too many seats in the Senate to gain majority and seeing that is the near future mean you and Matt wish for a new dawn is not happening.

Also America rejected your candidate through the Electoral College.

You keep talking about the electoral college, but what we see here now is that America is rejecting Donald Trump.

No paid protesters are.



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[dcbl]

We need to get rid of Washington Democrats who are preventing any true liberal policies from becoming the primary agenda.

yes, take a harder turn to the left

that is a sound policy & will certainly help you regain power

if nothing else, working class Americans will flock back to your party in droves

if there is anything I can do to assist you in this policy, please let me know

I am, after all, here to help

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

If you really believe there was damage done before Trump and that number 1, Trump is going to get 8 years and number 2, Trump is going to fix something, you've lost already.

The fact is you believe America was perfectly fine during Obama eight years as President.

You are like Obama and believe everything he did was perfect and those that do not agree are racist bigots.

It is sad that LBJ did more for the poor than Obama and let remember for two out of eight years Obama had the House and Senate and failed to get his promise on immigration reform done.

So right there he was a failure while bloating the government too much and wasteful spending as usual.

But let you dream of those eight years of Obama and please remember it was perfect and no one will tell you otherwise!

Well since I have not said all 8 years of Obama was perfect, you do the dreaming.

What I have said is things you say about Obama are not true. And that's because they aren't.

So for 6 years he did not have the house and senate. Also for all 8 years republicans used every procedural rule in the books o stymie anything Obama was trying to do.

It is a shame that you lie like you do.

At least I knew who wrote Mein Kumpf.

Also when Kennedy was alive the Senate was a 60 vote majority, so who is lying?

Also the Democrats lost the Senate in 2014 or did you forget That?

So for the last two years of Obama eight years the House and Senate were GOP, but tell me how I am lying again while you deny reality!

We keep trying to tell jokes do we?

Well in 1960 things were done a little differently than today. Congress was less confrontational and more apt to compromise.

For all 8 years republicans used every procedural rule in the books o stymie anything Obama was trying to do. They obstructed things hey supported before in order to stop Obama. They stood out there telling the dumb like you how we need jobs,asked the president where were the jobs, and when the jobs plan showed up, they filibustered it out of existence.

Seems that these are matters you cannot discuss. Because you're a liar.

One Obama was no leader and refused to comprise with Congress, Obama was a dictator..


Two Obama lost Congress by his own fault shoving Obama CA e down are throat..


Three stop saying Republicans were for the mandate and then against the mandate...they knew if they were for the mandate we would of tossed them.out.



.

IM2 is the type that believe every American is Liberal to Trotsky like him or her and believe Obama failure is due to racism and hate while not understanding Obama brought all that happen to him onto himself during his term.

Compromise is a word that is sinful to those that believe Obama was the greatest human ever born.

Now what is funny IM2 Believe I am some Trump voting supporter and all I am is one of the few Libertarians that call bullshit when I see it...

 

[Billo_Really]

yes, take a harder turn to the left

that is a sound policy & will certainly help you regain power

if nothing else, working class Americans will flock back to your party in droves

if there is anything I can do to assist you in this policy, please let me know

I am, after all, here to help

Then go out and get me a fountain coke!

 

[miketx]

70% of the people in prison are there for victimless crimes.

Lie some more. You know nothing about prison and you prove it by talking. about it.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

I think Matthew has a family member or two in jail.

I wonder if he is in jail.

 

[Thinker101]

Liberal friends, if we regain power! Here is what we need to do.
1. Reduce the federal law book on non-violent crimes. Sorry, but we shouldn't be the most imprisoned nation on earth. We should reduce the prison population greatly as we're doing so.
2. One of these is legalization of pot....
3. We need a single payer system in this country. Sorry, but that is the only way. I expect that the republicans will get their way and we will be around 50-55 ranking by 2020 in healthcare...People will die and will thirst for democratic leadership.
4. We need infrastructure, science and educational rebuilding plan for this country...1. build infrastructure from our bridges to our energy infrastructure, 2. invest more into science and 3. aim to improve our educational system...It is in sad shape.
5. We need our congressional majority to make Puerto Rico our 51st state.
6. Raise the minimum wage to at least 11 bucks per hour.

We need to show the American people that liberal leadership is the right way. Archaist failed in somalia, central African republic and other third world countries and it is bad here too. No way to govern a first world modern country!

With a platform like that I'm sure you have two chances...slim and none.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

70% of the people in prison are there for victimless crimes.

Yes, if you consider selling drugs that are killing tens of thousands of Americans victimless crimes.

 

[Thinker101]

70% of the people in prison are there for victimless crimes.

No doubt, all of them are innocent, just ask them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We need to get rid of Washington Democrats who are preventing any true liberal policies from becoming the primary agenda.

Like what? Free healthcare? No rich people? No guns?

I believe there is already a place like that, it's called Prison.

 

[danielpalos]

yes, take a harder turn to the left

that is a sound policy & will certainly help you regain power

if nothing else, working class Americans will flock back to your party in droves

if there is anything I can do to assist you in this policy, please let me know

I am, after all, here to help

Then go out and get me a fountain coke!

All i need is a, "petty cash fund for that purpose", and, Paypal works.

 

[danielpalos]

70% of the people in prison are there for victimless crimes.

Yes, if you consider selling drugs that are killing tens of thousands of Americans victimless crimes.

The US government is the largest purchaser of drugs in the Entire World.

 

[Crixus]

Look st the population of NY, CA, and Chicago. If she only won by 3 million, that doesn't say much for her appeal!

Yawn!

I know! I know! Facts put liberals to sleep. That is why you people are so stupid. You slept through school!

You are correct.

Clinton only winning by three million votes is sad. Also Libertarians do better at the poll than Green voters but let IM2 educate you on how America is more Liberal.

But you see it doesn't matter what you think. The popular vote of the people went to Hillary Clinton. And California and New York or waver other place you deem as liberal are not the only laces protesting Trump and his policies. I live in a state that Trump won and people are out n this stat today protesting Trumps policies'.

You conservatives are the ones who don't want to discuss facts. You've never been able to do so. 73 million votes are more than 300.

Somewhere in the midst of all of those typos and misspellings, your message got lost. Try again in English this time, please!

From what i could gather from your gibberish, you don't seem to understand what the vast majority of ignorant libs never get. We do not elect the president by the popular vote. We never have and likely never will.

But it annoys our resident public educator. You are yet another fucked up blessing from the democrat party. Missed the first pint there ? Go fuck your self is what I was getting at.

 

[TheDude]

The United States Has The Largest Prison Population In The World — And It’s Growing
The United States Has The Largest Prison Population In The World — And It’s Growing
Both in raw numbers and by percentage of the population, the United States has the most prisoners of any developed country in the world — and it has the largest total prison population of any nation.

Lets make it liberal policy to cut this in half.

The very reason we have the prison population we do is BECAUSE OF LIBERAL POLICY and the fact we're a capitalist democracy. When an inmate says "I wouldn't have committed robbery in Georgia if I knew I'd get 30 years. Where I come from, California, I'd have only gotten eight", that should tell you something about deterrents. In my world, I have little use for prison. Commit robbery, we remove the hand that held the gun and then set them free.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The United States Has The Largest Prison Population In The World — And It’s Growing
The United States Has The Largest Prison Population In The World — And It’s Growing
Both in raw numbers and by percentage of the population, the United States has the most prisoners of any developed country in the world — and it has the largest total prison population of any nation.

Lets make it liberal policy to cut this in half.

Funny how many of those are illegal immigrants

 

[Billo_Really]

Lie some more. You know nothing about prison and you prove it by talking. about it.

I was wrong. It's 86%.

Victimless Crime Constitutes 86% of The Federal Prison Population​

 

[Billo_Really]

Yes, if you consider selling drugs that are killing tens of thousands of Americans victimless crimes.

Drugs don't kill, people do.