Liberals are awful people and this whole ANTIFA thing is just more proof of that

[Redfish]

View attachment 147150 Eye witness accounts say it was a white supremacist riot in Charlotteville.
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Nazis are socialists... hence the name of Hitler's party

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

True dat. "Socialism" was a trendy marketing term of the time which is why Hitler went along with it. It boggles the mind to read the wags here who insist that "Hitler was a socialist because he had the word in his party name" --- as if Hitler was some kind of altruistic angel who would never stoop to propaganda...

Matter of fact the whole purpose of his SA ("brownshirts") was to beat up and intimidate the real socialists so that the NSDAP could take over. And when the first political prison opened at Dachau, socialists were the first "guests". And oh yes Hitler, the guy who's word is to be taken at face value because he would never lie, referred to those brownshirts as the "gymnastics and sports division".

brownshirts of 1930 equals antifa and blm of 2017. wake the fuck up, hopstick!

"Antifa" and "BLM" are beating up socialists then?

Link?

Berkley for starters, not just beating up socialists, but beating up everyone who is not them.

 

[Dragonlady]

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

funny, but you just described Obama and Hillary Clinton. They, and you libs, are the ones that want to control others. you want to control speech, education, the media, food, drink, cars, reproduction, and even thoughts. YOU are antifa. you resort to violence when you don't get your way. YOU are what is wrong with America

What you just described is the antithesis of "Liberal". Learn your terms.

we are not discussing dictionary definitions, we are discussing the practical realities practiced TODAY by people who call themselves liberals-------------antifa, BLM, the media, academia, etc.

my description is accurate of today's liberals.

View attachment 147150 Eye witness accounts say it was a white supremacist riot in Charlotteville.
.

Nazis are socialists... hence the name of Hitler's party

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

Your progressive schooling has confused you, all communism is, is evolved socialism.
The collective that is socialism eliminates any sort of individuality and freedom… fact
A Free-market capitalist republic is the only way to promote individuality and freedom…

The only way to have "free market" capitalism is to totally control and eliminate the left because free market capitalism suppresses wages, increases prices and provides no social safety net for the instability it causes.

When it was tried in South America in the 70's, it lead to deepening poverty, inequity, and could only be maintained by the brutal repression and murder of liberals.

Democratic socialism, which balances well regulated capitalism with a reasonable social safety net produces far more successful countries.

 

[Redfish]

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

funny, but you just described Obama and Hillary Clinton. They, and you libs, are the ones that want to control others. you want to control speech, education, the media, food, drink, cars, reproduction, and even thoughts. YOU are antifa. you resort to violence when you don't get your way. YOU are what is wrong with America

What you just described is the antithesis of "Liberal". Learn your terms.

we are not discussing dictionary definitions, we are discussing the practical realities practiced TODAY by people who call themselves liberals-------------antifa, BLM, the media, academia, etc.

my description is accurate of today's liberals.

Nazis are socialists... hence the name of Hitler's party

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

Your progressive schooling has confused you, all communism is, is evolved socialism.
The collective that is socialism eliminates any sort of individuality and freedom… fact
A Free-market capitalist republic is the only way to promote individuality and freedom…

The only way to have "free market" capitalism is to totally control and eliminate the left because free market capitalism suppresses wages, increases prices and provides no social safety net for the instability it causes.

When it was tried in South America in the 70's, it lead to deepening poverty, inequity, and could only be maintained by the brutal repression and murder of liberals.

Democratic socialism, which balances well regulated capitalism with a reasonable social safety net produces far more successful countries.

yes, but it is a question of degree. Venezuela took your ideas to the extreme and destroyed that country. We need some controls, and we have them. Generally you on the left want too much federal government interference in our day to day lives and our freedom to live them as we choose.

 

[Pogo]

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

funny, but you just described Obama and Hillary Clinton. They, and you libs, are the ones that want to control others. you want to control speech, education, the media, food, drink, cars, reproduction, and even thoughts. YOU are antifa. you resort to violence when you don't get your way. YOU are what is wrong with America

What you just described is the antithesis of "Liberal". Learn your terms.

we are not discussing dictionary definitions, we are discussing the practical realities practiced TODAY by people who call themselves liberals-------------antifa, BLM, the media, academia, etc.

my description is accurate of today's liberals.

No, what you're doing is wimping out on the definition and trying to have the rest of us believe that a term can mean its own opposite. The OP tried the same song and dance but your inability to come to terms with terms is nobody's issue but your own.

This goes in the round file along with "War is Peace", "Freedom is Slavery" and most useful for your purposes here, "Ignorance is Strength".

those three phrases that you put in quotes perfectly describe the left of today. The actions of the leftists at Berkley and other places prove my point.

It may, but that treatise was about "Liberalism" -- not "leftism". That you don't know the difference underscores my point about misdefinitions.

 

[Dragonlady]

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

funny, but you just described Obama and Hillary Clinton. They, and you libs, are the ones that want to control others. you want to control speech, education, the media, food, drink, cars, reproduction, and even thoughts. YOU are antifa. you resort to violence when you don't get your way. YOU are what is wrong with America

What you just described is the antithesis of "Liberal". Learn your terms.

we are not discussing dictionary definitions, we are discussing the practical realities practiced TODAY by people who call themselves liberals-------------antifa, BLM, the media, academia, etc.

my description is accurate of today's liberals.

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

Your progressive schooling has confused you, all communism is, is evolved socialism.
The collective that is socialism eliminates any sort of individuality and freedom… fact
A Free-market capitalist republic is the only way to promote individuality and freedom…

The only way to have "free market" capitalism is to totally control and eliminate the left because free market capitalism suppresses wages, increases prices and provides no social safety net for the instability it causes.

When it was tried in South America in the 70's, it lead to deepening poverty, inequity, and could only be maintained by the brutal repression and murder of liberals.

Democratic socialism, which balances well regulated capitalism with a reasonable social safety net produces far more successful countries.

yes, but it is a question of degree. Venezuela took your ideas to the extreme and destroyed that country. We need some controls, and we have them. Generally you on the left want too much federal government interference in our day to day lives and our freedom to live them as we choose.

It's right is similarly controlling but in different ways. The right opposes birth control, abortion rights, gay rights, and women's rights, as well the rights of citizens to clean water and air.

Government is always a balancing act. Go too far either way, and the system collapses.

 

[Pogo]

Nazis are socialists... hence the name of Hitler's party

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

True dat. "Socialism" was a trendy marketing term of the time which is why Hitler went along with it. It boggles the mind to read the wags here who insist that "Hitler was a socialist because he had the word in his party name" --- as if Hitler was some kind of altruistic angel who would never stoop to propaganda...

Matter of fact the whole purpose of his SA ("brownshirts") was to beat up and intimidate the real socialists so that the NSDAP could take over. And when the first political prison opened at Dachau, socialists were the first "guests". And oh yes Hitler, the guy who's word is to be taken at face value because he would never lie, referred to those brownshirts as the "gymnastics and sports division".

brownshirts of 1930 equals antifa and blm of 2017. wake the fuck up, hopstick!

"Antifa" and "BLM" are beating up socialists then?

Link?

Berkley for starters, not just beating up socialists, but beating up everyone who is not them.

again -- link to "beating up socialists" is where?

 

[Moonglow]

Liberals are hateful, unreasonable and violent people.

I've always known that because they support the violence of abortion, which kills 3000 babies every day in America.

But now the world knows it, because of ANTIFA.

I have often said that all liberals are going to hell, unless they repent.

So I ask liberals this important question.

Is what you're doing now, to yourself, to other people, to our country, really worth spending an eternity burning in hell?

Please mend your evil ways, go to a Catholic church, confess all your hateful ways to a priest, and then commit yourself to a new life of peace in your heart and love for your fellow man.

Otherwise, you will burn.

Prove that the members of Antifa are true liberals...You can't..

 

[Moonglow]

Liberals are hateful, unreasonable and violent people.

Yes, they are and so are a lot of conservatives. You people are just two sides of the same coin

No, that is a lie, and what's more you know it.

You're just trying to get credit for taking what you perceive to be a "moderate" position.

But "moderate" is just another word for "liberal."

Moderates will end up in hell too.

No, you are lying and you know it. And I'm not a moderate, I'm a libertarian. You are an authoritarian and you are part of the problem in this country. You wave the flag around and cling to the constitution but you don't believe in either one unless it suits your own agenda

Libertarian is another word for "clueless idiot".

I and a liberal friend argued with a libertarian once, and when we asked her why a man could not sell himself into slavery, she had no answer.

Because there is no libertarian answer to this question, and that's because according to libertarianism, a man CAN sell himself into slavery.

Slavery = debt in today's society..

 

[bodecea]

Liberals are hateful, unreasonable and violent people.

Yes, they are and so are a lot of conservatives. You people are just two sides of the same coin

No, that is a lie, and what's more you know it.

You're just trying to get credit for taking what you perceive to be a "moderate" position.

But "moderate" is just another word for "liberal."

Moderates will end up in hell too.

As I said before...there is no Hell except for what you make in your own mind. So in YOUR hell.....it will be interesting, I must say.....

 

[Rustic]

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

funny, but you just described Obama and Hillary Clinton. They, and you libs, are the ones that want to control others. you want to control speech, education, the media, food, drink, cars, reproduction, and even thoughts. YOU are antifa. you resort to violence when you don't get your way. YOU are what is wrong with America

What you just described is the antithesis of "Liberal". Learn your terms.

we are not discussing dictionary definitions, we are discussing the practical realities practiced TODAY by people who call themselves liberals-------------antifa, BLM, the media, academia, etc.

my description is accurate of today's liberals.

Nazis are socialists... hence the name of Hitler's party

Halter co-opted the Socialist Party, in much the same way that Trump co-opted the Republican Party. Just as Trump really isn't a Republican, neither was Hitler a socialist.

Hitler hated socialism and wanted to change the party name but Goebbels talked him out of it, saying it made him appear to be on the side of the people. The rest of Europe initially appeased Hitler because he was a right winger who opposed communism. They considered him an important bulwark against Stalin in the east.

Read your history.

Hitler was left wing all the way, hence his actions. He wanted to control everybody and everything the very definition of socialism.
Dip shit, the GOP establishment Republican Party is not conservative, never has been.

Hitler was a hard right authoritarian dictator. The urge to "control" everyone comes from authoritarianism, not liberalism. Stalin was a hard left authoritarian. They were two sides of the same coin.

Trump also seeks to control the press, his opposition and others. That doesn't make him a left winger, but it makes him an authoritarian. Anyone who criticizes him is an "enemy of the people". Trump's authoritarianism is what makes him so dangerous as a President.

Your progressive schooling has confused you, all communism is, is evolved socialism.
The collective that is socialism eliminates any sort of individuality and freedom… fact
A Free-market capitalist republic is the only way to promote individuality and freedom…

The only way to have "free market" capitalism is to totally control and eliminate the left because free market capitalism suppresses wages, increases prices and provides no social safety net for the instability it causes.

When it was tried in South America in the 70's, it lead to deepening poverty, inequity, and could only be maintained by the brutal repression and murder of liberals.

Democratic socialism, which balances well regulated capitalism with a reasonable social safety net produces far more successful countries.

Socialism has never survived, long-term. Because it relies on envy as its primary principle

 

[Pete7469]

Meds not kicking in tonight?

Hell is a real place and thousands of people go there every day.

Your disbelief in hell will not save you when your time comes.

My posting this warning is an act of charity. I am genuinely trying to save you and your fellow liberals from an eternity of pain.

You can choose to ignore my warning, but I will still get credit from God for my effort.

Leave them in ignorance.

I don't want to have to continue to deal with bed wetters after I die. It's bad enough now.

 

[JoeB131]

Liberals are good, decent, open, curious people who, for any faults they have, want the best for this country and demand freedom expression for all. The people you're talking about are Regressives, the leftist authoritarians who have taken over the left side of the spectrum in the name of liberalism.They're not liberals. They're distortions, mutations, perversions.

Note that fake centrist Mac does not express the same hostility towards the RWnut who started this thread.

And, for what must be the zillionth time, right on cue.
.

And for the Zillionth time, you distract from the point.

Why don't you ever challegned the racists and far right wingers on this board.

 

[federalist50]

Liberals are hateful, unreasonable and violent people.

I've always known that because they support the violence of abortion, which kills 3000 babies every day in America.

But now the world knows it, because of ANTIFA.

I have often said that all liberals are going to hell, unless they repent.

So I ask liberals this important question.

Is what you're doing now, to yourself, to other people, to our country, really worth spending an eternity burning in hell?

Please mend your evil ways, go to a Catholic church, confess all your hateful ways to a priest, and then commit yourself to a new life of peace in your heart and love for your fellow man.

Otherwise, you will burn.

I think it is a mistake to try and put any group of people into a neat, tidy box, one size that fits all! I know many people and family that generally agree with my ideology, but we don't agree on everything.

 

[Reasonable]

All Trump said was that both sides were to blame for the violence, which is true.

Liar. He also said there's " good people on both sides! "
Once again there are no good nazis, or white supremacists or KKK. He's been universally condemned for this statement but you keep pretending he hasn't been.

 

[Reasonable]

Liberals are good, decent, open, curious people who, for any faults they have, want the best for this country and demand freedom expression for all. The people you're talking about are Regressives, the leftist authoritarians who have taken over the left side of the spectrum in the name of liberalism.They're not liberals. They're distortions, mutations, perversions.

Note that fake centrist Mac does not express the same hostility towards the RWnut who started this thread.

And, for what must be the zillionth time, right on cue.
.

And for the Zillionth time, you distract from the point.

Why don't you ever challegned the racists and far right wingers on this board.

The trump whores will NEVER put down the neonazis and white supremacists because of two reasons.
1. They're trump's base
2. They identify with that hate movement or are a part of it themselves.
This forum is known to be populated with many racists and white supremacists. Don't hold your breath for them changing their colors or white hoods.

 

[Reasonable]

lol, the RWnuts' to manufacture the ANTIFA monster is their funniest attempt yet to deflect attention from their own bigotry.

Bingo.

 

[Mac1958]

The actions of the leftists at Berkley and other places prove my point.

Yep, authoritarian leftists, not liberals.

Maybe these people will jump the shark soon, if they haven't already. The zealots need to be marginalized and the liberals need to return.

These lunatics are partially to blame for Trump being in office.
.

 

[bodecea]

Liberals are hateful, unreasonable and violent people.

It must suck to be you. You've spend weeks lying and crying about antifa and liberals, yet nobody is paying attention. Everyone still rightfully blames your Nazi BFF's.

So, how do you plan to address your failure? Scream and pout even louder in your little fascist SafeSpace here? Yeah, that's worked so well for you so far.

Remember. Nazis go to Hell, and Nazi collaborators go to Hell as well. No wonder you're all so touchy. You seem to know where you're going, but you can't stop yourselves.

You call me a Nazi, and yet, you are the one who's perfectly happy to watch 3000 unborn babies get murdered every day and their body parts sold.

We watch that? Is there a cable channel for that?

 

[bodecea]

Yes, they are and so are a lot of conservatives. You people are just two sides of the same coin

No, that is a lie, and what's more you know it.

You're just trying to get credit for taking what you perceive to be a "moderate" position.

But "moderate" is just another word for "liberal."

Moderates will end up in hell too.

You have no clue in the world what "Liberal" means, do ya.

Liberalism is a broad term that includes a whole bunch of people who agree on little, but work together to pull our nation apart with hatred and division.

For example, you will see a Black Lives Matter person who hates white people working with a LGBT activist who hates straight people working with a Muslim fundamentalist who hates everyone who isn't Muslim. And they will work together, because their hatred gives them something in common.

Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope. Got zero to do with any of that.

Liberalism simply believes that political power rightfully derives from the consent of the governed, and not the authoritarian hierarchy of a monarch or a church. It's what put this country together. Got nothing to do with "hate" or any emotion at all. That's just your own hangup.

That WAS the definition of liberal, before liberals became corrupt with their own lies and hatred.

So...you get to define "liberal" now? Who gave you that power?

 

[Reasonable]