Liberals: Be Not Offended!

[PoliticalChic]

6. Kirsten Powers goes on, in her new book, painting a picture of the Leftists/Liberals as opponents of free speech:


...'...why not just tune out the views they don't like? They can't. They are authoritarians at heart; they know what Americans should think and what information they should consume....they launch petitions to have particular views censored ..."




a. Here, the modus operandi of the Liberal fascists:

"The Los Angeles Times recently announced that they are refusing to publish letters that deny climate change. Their reasoning is simple: climate denial contradicts basic science, and newspapers should not print factually inaccurate information. It's timeThe Washington Post followed suit.

Tell the editors of The Washington Post: our country's most respected newspapers shouldn't print letters that deny basic climate science." Tell The Washington Post Don t Promote Climate Change Denial Forecast the Facts



b. And this:

"Eight years ago, the climatologists at the blog RealClimate, condemning a pair ofWashington Postcolumns,chargedthat thePostlacked "quality control . . . that ensures minimal journalistic standards, such as intellectual honesty and basic fact-checking." In the online discussion that followed, one of the bloggers made clear that he would have expected thePostsimply to take the almost unheard-of action of rejecting submissions from two long-established national columnists, Robert Novak and George Will." Self-identified climate agnostic repels muzzling proposition



c. And it's not just American Liberals: The Royal Society of England wrote directly to sympathetic science journalists and asked them not to cover opposing claims about climate change. It was false to even mention skeptics; the science was settled.


“…Royal Society,… writes: "We are appealing to all parts of the UK media to be vigilant against attempts to present a distorted view of the scientific evidence about climate change and its potential effects on people and their environments around the world. I hope that we can count on your support."

Collins, the UK Telegraph, was shocked…and wrote of the ‘sceptics:’ These people are not nutcases, nor are they in thrall to the oil companies (even if they were, does anyone seriously believe that Big Oil wants to destroy the planet?). They are just as capable of doing serious science as those who take it as an article of faith that global warming is all our fault. Global warming generates hot air - Telegraph


Seems that any diverse opinion is 'offensive' to Leftist Liberals....

...and must be abolished at all costs!!!

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. Let's make it clear that the Liberal censors of opposing opinions don't simply fuss.....they want the other side punished! Disagree.....you can lose your livlihood!




a. "A column about drunk female students and frats was published to Forbes Tuesday and then quickly pulled down.
Forbes magazine has sacked a contributor over an online column arguing that drunk party girls were the "gravest threats" to the livelihood of fraternities, the Daily News has learned.


The column by contributor and MIT-grad Bill Frezza titled "Drunk Female Guests Are the Gravest Threat To Fraternities," hit the web at 2:23 p.m. Tuesday,according to a cached version still available online." Forbes columnist sacked over piece saying drunk female guests are grave threat to frats - NY Daily News



b. "Tell The Washington Post: Fire George Will The Washington Post just doubled down on rape culture. After a barrage of criticism over George Will's weekend column, the newspaper published an article titled "One way to end violence against women? Stop taking lovers and get married."TheWashington Post has to stop. That starts with firing George Will.
The Washington Post actually just published an opinion piece mocking sexual assault survivors and saying that women want to be raped. The author, conservative columnist George Will, goes so far as to write that colleges are making "victimhood a coveted status" by taking public steps to curb sexual assaults on campus." UltraViolet Tell The Washington Post Fire George Will

c. "Student Says His Home Was Egged & He Was Fired for Conservative Column A junior at the University of Michigan says he is being attacked for expressing his conservative views.

Muslim student Omar Mahmood was fired from the “mainstream” student newspaper, Michigan Daily, over a satirical column that he wrote for the Michigan Review, a conservative student publication.

“Freedom of speech, which is what the left actually preaches and what these social justice warriors promote – tolerance, equality – is exactly the opposite of what they did to me,” he said."
Student Says His Home Was Egged He Was Fired for Conservative Column Fox News Insider



So....these Liberals....closer to fascists or to liberty-loving Americans?


That sound?

Voltaire rolling in is grave.

 

[danielpalos]

I am not offended when nice girls come up to me and insist it is my turn to use them.

 

[Mac1958]

At this point, "I'm offended" simply means "oooh, I see a chance to put someone on the defensive, to intimidate and to control".

That's something they choose to do, it's not something they have to do.
.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Seems that any diverse opinion is 'offensive' to Leftist Liberals....

...and must be abolished at all costs!!!

You seem to be very offended by diverse opinion too comrade

What's your solution (other than copy and paste)?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems that any diverse opinion is 'offensive' to Leftist Liberals....

...and must be abolished at all costs!!!

You seem to be very offended by diverse opinion too comrade

What's your solution (other than copy and paste)?

1. "You seem to be very offended by diverse opinion too comrade."
That should be "You seem to be very offended by diverse opinion too, comrade."

a. Let’s eat Grandma.
b. Let’s eat, Grandma.
Punctuation saves lives.



2."You seem to be very offended by diverse opinion too comrade."
Can you support your charge, or is this simply a lie in defense of Liberal fascism?



3.What's your solution (other than copy and paste)?

There is nothing untoward about the method I use to provide information, and it solves the problem you appear unable to overcome: documentation and support for the point.

Here...let me prove it:
1. Citing an authority with an established reputation is better, of course, than citing someone whose credentials are not so lofty. (http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/mla/practical_guide.shtml)

2. What has been pejoratively referred to as ‘simply cut and paste,’ is, in fact, carefully chosen to substantiate a point. Is the information covered fact, opinion, or propaganda? Facts can usually be verified; opinions, though they may be based on factual information, evolve from the interpretation of facts.(Critical Appraisal and Analysis - Critically Analyzing Information Sources - LibGuides at Cornell University)

If you were more educated, you might be able to use the same method.
Don't sulk.




4." What's your solution?"
One would have to be particularly slow witted not to understand my 'solution.'
You qualify.

But, as a conservative is never so tall as when she stoops to educate a Liberal....I'll spoon feed it to you:
Stop attempting to punish those with whom you Liberals disagree.

The answer to speech with which one disagrees, is to organize an alternative argument.
As I do, and which irritates you fascists to no end.

Honest debate goes like this:
'Your statement of 'x' is incorrect for this reason......'y.'
And here is the support, proof, or basis for my disagreement.'

Seems they don't teach that in government schools.


See how much you've just learned?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

See how much you've just learned?

Indeed, I learned that I forgot to type a comma and that you can't formulate an argument without quoting some nutty rightwing site

Oh, and I'm not a liberal but a socialist.

 

[PoliticalChic]

See how much you've just learned?

Indeed, I learned that I forgot to type a comma and that you can't formulate an argument without quoting some nutty rightwing site

Oh, and I'm not a liberal but a socialist.

Let's review:

I provided the instruction of
Composition Patterns Developing an Argument

and

Cornell University...Critical Appraisal and Analysis - Critically Analyzing Information Sources - LibGuides at Cornell University

...and you've proven unable to incorporate same into what passes for thinking from a Liberal.

Sad, but not unexpected.

 

[PoliticalChic]

See how much you've just learned?

Indeed, I learned that I forgot to type a comma and that you can't formulate an argument without quoting some nutty rightwing site

Oh, and I'm not a liberal but a socialist.

"Oh, and I'm not a liberal but a socialist."

Oh...and if you are one, you are also the other.

Education free of charge.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

PC always has some weird revisionist history available for any occasion. Like so many conservatives, she's terribly offended by reality.

PC collects liberal shrunken heads and wears them on her belt. You're incapable of dealing DIRECTLY with what she says, instead you resort to insults and even rape innuendos. All of you, each and everyone of you are nothing more than a shrunken head, lips sewn tight and mumbling how you'd get the better of her

God, I love how these messages boards have completely destroyed the notion that liberals are intellectuals

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Let's review:

I provided the instruction of...

How about providing a sensible argument in your own words for a change?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

"Oh, and I'm not a liberal but a socialist."

Oh...and if you are one, you are also the other.

Really, can you provide a clear definition of what a liberal is exactly?

The reason I ask, is because I'm always told by your fellow compassionate conservatives that Hillary and Obama are evil libruls. Now as a socialist, I think that they are corrupt corporate puppets who really don't give a $hit about the welfare of the people (other than the corporate "people"). But maybe I missed something.

Education free of charge.

Education free of charge? I thought you were against evil socialist programs?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Really, can you provide a clear definition of what a liberal is exactly?"

No.

All the OP is capable of are lies, straw man fallacies, and exhibiting her comprehensive ignorance.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[ You're incapable of dealing DIRECTLY with what she says, instead you resort to insults and even rape innuendos.

Oh my, did someone hurt PC's feelings with an insult? Gee, maybe there should be a law against that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Can you imagine....Americans have turned over the political environs to a bunch who actually believe that it is government's obligation....not to mention ability.....to protect citizens from having their feelings hurt???

You're referring to this sort of thing, presumably:

Republican Senator wants to cancel Pride because it’s offensive to Christians

"A state Senator in Arkansas has claimed that a Pride event on a Sunday should be cancelled – because it is “offensive” to Christians.

The 12th annual Conway Pride Festival was held yesterday in the small Arkansas town, on Sunday June 7.

However, the Pride was on the receiving end of a 900-word vitriolic Facebook post from Republican Senator Jason Rapert, who claimed it is “offensive” to celebrate love on a Sunday.

He wrote on Facebook: “How many parades do you know of that are scheduled to take place on a Sunday? Have you ever wondered why they chose a Sunday to conduct a parade? I believe it is because they understand that the lifestyle they are glorifying on our streets is considered sin by every Bible-believing Christian and they use their parade on a day reserved to worship God and reverence the Lord to mock Christians.

“I object to Mayor Townsell and the Conway City Council continuing to allow people, many of whom do not even live in our community, to parade down our streets on a Sunday and accuse Christians of being ‘bigots’ because they believe the Bible teaches that homosexuality is sin."

Republican Senator wants to cancel Pride because it s offensive to Christians PinkNews

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

CRUSADERFRANK SAID:

“You're incapable of dealing DIRECTLY with what she says.”

Because it's all lies, straw man fallacies, and comprehensively ignorant; no one can 'deal directly' with her ridiculous, incoherent cut 'n' paste nonsense.

 

[PoliticalChic]

CRUSADERFRANK SAID:

“You're incapable of dealing DIRECTLY with what she says.”

Because it's all lies, straw man fallacies, and comprehensively ignorant; no one can 'deal directly' with her ridiculous, incoherent cut 'n' paste nonsense.

Wait.....did you say " all lies, straw man fallacies, and comprehensively ignorant;"....

......again?

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Oh, and I'm not a liberal but a socialist."

Oh...and if you are one, you are also the other.

Really, can you provide a clear definition of what a liberal is exactly?

The reason I ask, is because I'm always told by your fellow compassionate conservatives that Hillary and Obama are evil libruls. Now as a socialist, I think that they are corrupt corporate puppets who really don't give a $hit about the welfare of the people (other than the corporate "people"). But maybe I missed something.

Education free of charge.

Education free of charge? I thought you were against evil socialist programs?

See if this helps:

1) Conservatives believe that there are moral truths, right and wrong, and that these truths are permanent. The result of infracting these truths will be atrocities and social disaster. Liberals believe in a privatization of morality so complete that no code of conduct is generally accepted, practically to the point of ‘do what you can get away with’. These beliefs are aimed at the gratification of appetites and exhibit anarchistic impulses.


2) Conservatives believe that custom and tradition result in individuals living in peace. Law is custom and precedent. Liberals are destroyers of custom and convention. To a conservative, change should be gradual, as the new society is often inferior to the old. We build on the ideas and experience of our ancestors. The species is wiser than the individual (Burke).


3) Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.


4) Conservatives believe in the principle of variety, while liberal perspectives result in a narrowing uniformity. Conservatives believe in choice of healthcare, education, religion, and various other areas. Under conservative principles, there will be differences in class, material condition and other inequalities. Equality will be of opportunity, not necessarily of result. The only uniformity will be before the law. Society will not be perfect. Consider the results of the rule of ideologues of the last century.


5) Freedom and property are linked. Private property results in a more stable and productive society. Private property and retaining the fruits of one’s labor has been proven successful from the Puritan’s Bradford, to the Stakhanovite Revolution!


6) Conservatives believe in voluntary community and charity, based on duties to each other, with the assumption that each person must do whatever he could to avoid requiring assistance, as opposed to involuntary collectivism, as in “let the government do it..” Burke's understanding that the "little platoon" - family, neighborhood, professional organizations etc - is the "first principle" of society has been consistently identified as providing the necessary inspiration for conservativism. And explains why conservatives give more to charity than liberals.


7) Conservatives view people as both good and bad, and for this reason believe on restraints on power, as in checks and balances, while liberals see power as a force for good, as long as the power is in their hands.


8) Liberals and Conservatives differ in the way to proceed. For Conservatives, data informs policy. (“More Guns, Less Crime” and “Mass murderers apparently can’t read, since they are constantly shooting up ‘gun-free zones.’”- Coulter) We use Conservative principles to the best of our ability, but when confronting new and original venues, we believe in testing, and analysis of the results of the tests. For liberals, feeling passes for knowing; it is based on emotion often to the exclusion of thinking.


9) Conservatives view results differently from Liberals. Liberals respond to success and material wealth with envy and hostility, encourage class warfare and an attempt to obviate any chance that it might happen again. The exception is when it is a Liberal with the wealth. Conservatives see success as the validation and culmination of the application of Conservative principles, most prominently Liberty.


10)Since Liberals see their view as a higher calling that that of Conservatives, they mistakenly believe that it is entirely appropriate for then to use, not logic, facts, nor accepted debating techniques, but ad hominem attacks on the physical appearance, personal history, or imaginary mental defects. Notice how the Liberal replaces intellect with emotion. This is, no doubt, based on a medieval concept of recognizing witches and demons. In fact, Liberals attempt to deal with opponents in similar fashion: recall Clarence Thomas’ “High Tech Lynching.”

 

[SAYIT]

Can you imagine....Americans have turned over the political environs to a bunch who actually believe that it is government's obligation....not to mention ability.....to protect citizens from having their feelings hurt???


Did I miss this part of the Constitution..."Be Not Offended"?


1. Yet, the dominant political party/worldview promises to do just that. 'Your widdle feeling hurt? Or might be hurt? Well....we'll put in place rules, regulations, speech codes, 'trigger warnings,' ....and, don't forget the mantra that the Democrats provided during the Clarence Thomas nomination, that the accusation of criminal wrongdoing , namely the unproved sexual harassment claims of one Anita Hill....even though Ms. Hill couldn't prove her accusation, that didn't matter.

Nah....here's what mattered:
"The nature of the evidence is irrelevant. It's the seriousness of the charge."



2. For conservatives, traditionalists, the lesson is very different.
My fav radio host, Dennis Prager explained a valuable lesson in life he learned early in his high school career. His Jewish school taught Hebrew subjects in the first half of the day, and the public school curriculum later. In the middle, the boys were required to participate in prayers.

On one day, young Dennis approached the Rabbi, and said something that the Rabbi had never, in his long life, heard:
"Rabbi," Prager said, "I'm not in the mood for prayers today."

The Rabbi stroked his long beard, and said two words, that Prager professed, changed his life.

The religious leader said: "So what?"
And that is the lesson. Your mood, the way you feel, even if you are 'offended.' has no effect on the rest of the world, or how you go about your day.


And that is the view that our Liberal pals should incorporate.
The world need not heed your being offended.
Deal with it.




3. "On campuses there are speech codes, ...."free speech zones," and a host of "anti-discrimination" policies that discriminate against people who dissent from lefty groupthink. Christian and conservative groups have been denied official university status by student government organizations for holding views not in line with liberal dogma.

The illiberal left's attempts to control the public debate are frequently buttressed by a parade of childish grievances. They portray life's vagaries as violations of their basic human rights and demand the world stop traumatizing them..."
Kirsten Powers, "The Silencing: How The Left Is Killing Free Speech"


By this weakening of the American character.....crushed by words.....they have taken the 'can do generation,' and produced the 'pajama boy generation.'

Woe is us.

"If you are not liberal at 25 you have no heart. If you are still liberal at 35 you have no brain."

Social media gives kids a far bigger voice than their numbers (and knowledge) should confer. Most of them grow out of that whole Kumbaya stage and into rational, thinking adults.
America will survive their silliness.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Can you imagine....Americans have turned over the political environs to a bunch who actually believe that it is government's obligation....not to mention ability.....to protect citizens from having their feelings hurt???


Did I miss this part of the Constitution..."Be Not Offended"?


1. Yet, the dominant political party/worldview promises to do just that. 'Your widdle feeling hurt? Or might be hurt? Well....we'll put in place rules, regulations, speech codes, 'trigger warnings,' ....and, don't forget the mantra that the Democrats provided during the Clarence Thomas nomination, that the accusation of criminal wrongdoing , namely the unproved sexual harassment claims of one Anita Hill....even though Ms. Hill couldn't prove her accusation, that didn't matter.

Nah....here's what mattered:
"The nature of the evidence is irrelevant. It's the seriousness of the charge."



2. For conservatives, traditionalists, the lesson is very different.
My fav radio host, Dennis Prager explained a valuable lesson in life he learned early in his high school career. His Jewish school taught Hebrew subjects in the first half of the day, and the public school curriculum later. In the middle, the boys were required to participate in prayers.

On one day, young Dennis approached the Rabbi, and said something that the Rabbi had never, in his long life, heard:
"Rabbi," Prager said, "I'm not in the mood for prayers today."

The Rabbi stroked his long beard, and said two words, that Prager professed, changed his life.

The religious leader said: "So what?"
And that is the lesson. Your mood, the way you feel, even if you are 'offended.' has no effect on the rest of the world, or how you go about your day.


And that is the view that our Liberal pals should incorporate.
The world need not heed your being offended.
Deal with it.




3. "On campuses there are speech codes, ...."free speech zones," and a host of "anti-discrimination" policies that discriminate against people who dissent from lefty groupthink. Christian and conservative groups have been denied official university status by student government organizations for holding views not in line with liberal dogma.

The illiberal left's attempts to control the public debate are frequently buttressed by a parade of childish grievances. They portray life's vagaries as violations of their basic human rights and demand the world stop traumatizing them..."
Kirsten Powers, "The Silencing: How The Left Is Killing Free Speech"


By this weakening of the American character.....crushed by words.....they have taken the 'can do generation,' and produced the 'pajama boy generation.'

Woe is us.

"If you are not liberal at 25 you have no heart. If you are still liberal at 35 you have no brain."

Social media gives kids a far bigger voice than their numbers (and knowledge) should confer. Most of them grow out of that whole Kumbaya stage and into rational, thinking adults.
America will survive their silliness.

And it is the reason that Obama told the college grads not to listen to their elders.