Liberals - It's time to be polite

the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.
How many of trumps businesses failed?




How many of Trump's businesses that failed took direct taxpayer funds?
None, he wanā€™t the President then. He just cheated on his taxes, cheated workers and Contracters who worked on his projects.

Both Donald and Fred paid hefty fines for refusing to rent to blacks. Jaredā€™s Father went to jail. Guess who put him there? A Prosecutor named Christie.

You are deviating and making specious claims and slanderous accusations on the President. You need to familiarize yourself with US tax law on "net loss carry forward" or otherwise provide basis in fact that cheating occurred.


I can do more if you want them.

You are skirting your claim that the President cheated on taxes. I provided you a specific part of the Tax Law yet you tell me to familiarize myself with "the Law". That is vague at best on your part. Whose Law? What part of the Law?
 
It is always time to be polite. I'm a bit left of center politically, and the conduct of liberals these last 4 years has been an embarrassment. Not that I thought the conduct of conservatives during the Obama years was anything to emulate.
 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---

*looks at trumps numbers among latinos, even mexican americans in texas"

u sure insulting others wont' grow the base/
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.
How many of trumps businesses failed?




How many of Trump's businesses that failed took direct taxpayer funds?
None, he wanā€™t the President then. He just cheated on his taxes, cheated workers and Contracters who worked on his projects.

Both Donald and Fred paid hefty fines for refusing to rent to blacks. Jaredā€™s Father went to jail. Guess who put him there? A Prosecutor named Christie.

You are deviating and making specious claims and slanderous accusations on the President. You need to familiarize yourself with US tax law on "net loss carry forward" or otherwise provide basis in fact that cheating occurred.


I can do more if you want them.

"Alleged"........................you need to show what parts of the docs support your case.

"
Many of the interviewees said that they had never seen any discrimination against African-Americans or Puerto Ricans.

One tenant told FBI investigators that ā€œit was obvious that she had not been discriminated against since she, in fact, a Negro female, had been rented an apartmentā€ at one of the buildings owned by Trump Management Co., documents say."

"ā€œHe would only state he had heard this from more than two superintendents and was of the opinion it was a common practice.ā€ However, he denied that racial discrimination was encouraged by the company and said that he did not know of any person rejected on the basis of race. "

"
The Trumps admitted no wrongdoing and were prohibited from ā€œdiscriminating against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling.ā€ They were also required to take out advertisements notifying minority individuals that they had an equal opportunity to seek housing at Trump properties.

Both the federal government and Trump hailed the settlement as a victory."

..................................................so not ONE CASE of discrimination was ever found or identified let alone PROVED!!! Wow; I wish Biden was subjected to such scrutiny!! lmao

Same old canard...FORTY FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!!

Greg
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.
How many of trumps businesses failed?




How many of Trump's businesses that failed took direct taxpayer funds?
None, he wanā€™t the President then. He just cheated on his taxes, cheated workers and Contracters who worked on his projects.

Both Donald and Fred paid hefty fines for refusing to rent to blacks. Jaredā€™s Father went to jail. Guess who put him there? A Prosecutor named Christie.

You are deviating and making specious claims and slanderous accusations on the President. You need to familiarize yourself with US tax law on "net loss carry forward" or otherwise provide basis in fact that cheating occurred.


I can do more if you want them.

"Alleged"........................you need to show what parts of the docs support your case.

"
Many of the interviewees said that they had never seen any discrimination against African-Americans or Puerto Ricans.

One tenant told FBI investigators that ā€œit was obvious that she had not been discriminated against since she, in fact, a Negro female, had been rented an apartmentā€ at one of the buildings owned by Trump Management Co., documents say."

"ā€œHe would only state he had heard this from more than two superintendents and was of the opinion it was a common practice.ā€ However, he denied that racial discrimination was encouraged by the company and said that he did not know of any person rejected on the basis of race. "

"
The Trumps admitted no wrongdoing and were prohibited from ā€œdiscriminating against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling.ā€ They were also required to take out advertisements notifying minority individuals that they had an equal opportunity to seek housing at Trump properties.

Both the federal government and Trump hailed the settlement as a victory."

..................................................so not ONE CASE of discrimination was ever found or identified let alone PROVED!!! Wow; I wish Biden was subjected to such scrutiny!! lmao

Same old canard...FORTY FIVE YEARS AGO!!!!!

Greg
Agreement.

 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---

Yeah. I don't see that happening from Trump supporter land. Their guy lost and they won't accept that he didn't win.
No Democrat was barking about a "rigged" election four years ago.

Say what now?

omg!
 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---
Youre expecting the left to suddenly behave, after years of demonization and violence against the right?
 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---

Yeah. I don't see that happening from Trump supporter land. Their guy lost and they won't accept that he didn't win.
No Democrat was barking about a "rigged" election four years ago.
What are you talking about? Im a Trump voter, but Biden won.
 
But he hates Latinos. Of course many of them have the same feelings of hate that whites do.

Your mendacity is exceeded only by your hatefulness.
Leftists call everyone else "racists" purely to gaslight. The same is true of Leftists calling everyone else "fascists" and "Nazis." Sickening of Leftists.

I did not even mention anyone but Trump, the guy who uses those words often. So you are posting a lie.
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!
 
It is always time to be polite. I'm a bit left of center politically, and the conduct of liberals these last 4 years has been an embarrassment. Not that I thought the conduct of conservatives during the Obama years was anything to emulate.

I am a moderate Democrat who dislikes both Far Right and Far Left.
 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---

*looks at trumps numbers among latinos, even mexican americans in texas"

u sure insulting others wont' grow the base/

No insults, just facts!
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!

Why is it necessary to denigrate, demean, or destroy the fossil fuel industry as the basis for a successful Green Deal? This is what makes me question it. If a company can innovate technology so that our economy runs on water, air, and sun at scale and the fossil fuel industry becomes extinct, Iā€™m all for it because thatā€™s the market driving it; not some agenda-driven liberal fascists who primarily want fossil fuels to go away even if it compromises our economy without a proven viable alternative.
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!

Why is it necessary to denigrate, demean, or destroy the fossil fuel industry as the basis for a successful Green Deal? This is what makes me question it. If a company can innovate technology so that our economy runs on water, air, and sun at scale and the fossil fuel industry becomes extinct, Iā€™m all for it because thatā€™s the market driving it; not some agenda-driven liberal fascists who primarily want fossil fuels to go away even if it compromises our economy without a proven viable alternative.


How the fossil fuel industry deliberately misled Americans about climate change
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!

Why is it necessary to denigrate, demean, or destroy the fossil fuel industry as the basis for a successful Green Deal? This is what makes me question it. If a company can innovate technology so that our economy runs on water, air, and sun at scale and the fossil fuel industry becomes extinct, Iā€™m all for it because thatā€™s the market driving it; not some agenda-driven liberal fascists who primarily want fossil fuels to go away even if it compromises our economy without a proven viable alternative.


How the fossil fuel industry deliberately misled Americans about climate change

So what? If you want to hit the fossil fuel industry where it hurts, do it with market-driven innovation that can run our economy.
 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---
Bookmarked.

I have a feeling this thread will need to resurface in the next 4-10 weeks.
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!

Why is it necessary to denigrate, demean, or destroy the fossil fuel industry as the basis for a successful Green Deal? This is what makes me question it. If a company can innovate technology so that our economy runs on water, air, and sun at scale and the fossil fuel industry becomes extinct, Iā€™m all for it because thatā€™s the market driving it; not some agenda-driven liberal fascists who primarily want fossil fuels to go away even if it compromises our economy without a proven viable alternative.


How the fossil fuel industry deliberately misled Americans about climate change
I found this particularly interesting:

ExxonMobilStatement.JPG


"Fundamental gaps in knowledge leave scientists unable to make reliable predictions about future changes."

That is a true statement. The models used by climate alarmists are based on guesses, fill in the gaps with whatever works for the most stark result possible. The rebuttal:

"Falsely argues that because we don't know everything, we know nothing."

No, it correctly argues that because you don't have all the facts, you have guessed at certain things and the models are based on guesses. That is not science at all. That is bullshit.
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!

Why is it necessary to denigrate, demean, or destroy the fossil fuel industry as the basis for a successful Green Deal? This is what makes me question it. If a company can innovate technology so that our economy runs on water, air, and sun at scale and the fossil fuel industry becomes extinct, Iā€™m all for it because thatā€™s the market driving it; not some agenda-driven liberal fascists who primarily want fossil fuels to go away even if it compromises our economy without a proven viable alternative.


How the fossil fuel industry deliberately misled Americans about climate change

So what? If you want to hit the fossil fuel industry where it hurts, do it with market-driven innovation that can run our economy.


To protect all that they have built in terms of perennial profits, international clout, and influence on major world economies, Big Oil continues to be the strongest political force to overturn policies in an effort to combat environmental incentives for alternative energy and transportation, and to destroy or marginalize all opposing innovation in these areas.
 
Dear Liberals - I know you're happy, (as a fellow Liberal, so am I) I also know you're itching to post some abrasive "in your face!" messages to Trump supporters here.

Don't do it!

I know you remember all those Trump folks here in 2017 posting little Yoda photos here reminding you of your "butthurt, and sarcastically advising you to cry like bitches etc. Please - don't put yourself on that level.

Democrats pulled off a modest win this time around, but you're not going to build up your voter base by antagonizing and insulting others. Debate the issues respectfully, and don't resort to mudslinging. It won't help---
Good luck with that. Not going to happen.
 
the crazy lunatic white supremacists on this board are not the voter base any sane and logical political movement would want...

You think everyone on this board who does not or did not vote Democrat is a White Supremacist? I am very much a conservative capitalist and fundamentally disagree with most of the economic, regulatory, and international policies of today's Democrats. I am also married to a Mexican, father of two Latino sons, believe that people should not be discriminated based on their race, creed, or ethnicity, and I support the rights and protection for same-sex couples or same-sex orientation individuals.

Putting me in the bucket of white supremacists is laughable because true white supremacists would reject me.
But yet you vote for the party that defends business owners right to discriminate.

Do you actually benefit from republican economic policies? Because overall most Americans donā€™t. The gap between rich and rest of us has widened since Reagan and the bush boys. So Iā€™m glad most Americans showed up and voted for democrats because now maybe the economy will be good for more people not fewer. Trump gave the middle class a $2 hr raise. Gave the rich a $500,000 raise. Thatā€™s no right And didnā€™t make America great again.

PS. I know lots of Latinos who voted for trump too. So I donā€™t faul you for voting gop over racism when even stupid Latinos voted for the guy Too

The so-called ā€œstupid Latinosā€ you refer to are smart enough to realize that more jobs and opportunities for small businesses are created under a Trump or GOP Reagan type vs. Democrats. What you are spewing is nothing more than class warfare and economic envy used in failed socialist countries.

Explain to US why Trumpā€™s 3.3 percent Unemployment rate gets hit with a global pandemic in March which immediately takes Unemployment to 14.7 percent. By October, the Unemployment rate is down to 6.9 percent. Intrastate that with unemployment at 9 percent in 2010 and it took Obama Biden five years to get unemployment to move 4 points to just over 5 percent. Under Trump, Unemployment plummeted faster in a global pandemic in 6 months vs 5 years that unemployment decline was extremely sluggish under Obama Biden.
Riding on Obamaā€™s economy. Does not look so hot now. Just like Obama digging us out of the Bush Depression Biden will have it worse, dealing with the pandemic and Trumpā€™s trillion dollar deficit. And do nothing Mitch will make it harder just as he did with Obama.

You still did not answer the question why and how unemployment fell so much more rapidly in a pandemic Trump inherited vs unemployment sluggish decline under Obama. You try to blame McConnell that Obama had to deal with yet Trump has Pelosi. Obamaā€™s sluggish digging is attributable to the fact his priority was rewarding friends like those at Solyndra.
In March Everyone was furloughed or laid off for two weeks. In two weeks people got called back to work. Trump did nothing.

What about all the people who got bonus unemployment so decided to stay unemployed?

Im so sick of republicans bringing up solyndra. You conservatives are so against the green economy. Itā€™s not like you guys to be against a new industry. Youā€™re only against them because coal and oil corporations tell you to be.

Same reason youā€™re against marijuana because the tobacco lobbyists own you

Iā€™m so sick of liberals bringing up the green economy and how it will bring jobs yet they donā€™t provide the how and why backed up by empirical data or logic. You keep being sick of Solyndra. It was an absolute failure accept for the insiders (cronies and friends) who took the US taxpayer dime.

You mention one company. There are thousands who succeeded. Clean Energy is here to stay..Enjoy. Now we have a President that embraces it!

Why is it necessary to denigrate, demean, or destroy the fossil fuel industry as the basis for a successful Green Deal? This is what makes me question it. If a company can innovate technology so that our economy runs on water, air, and sun at scale and the fossil fuel industry becomes extinct, Iā€™m all for it because thatā€™s the market driving it; not some agenda-driven liberal fascists who primarily want fossil fuels to go away even if it compromises our economy without a proven viable alternative.


How the fossil fuel industry deliberately misled Americans about climate change

So what? If you want to hit the fossil fuel industry where it hurts, do it with market-driven innovation that can run our economy.


To protect all that they have built in terms of perennial profits, international clout, and influence on major world economies, Big Oil continues to be the strongest political force to overturn policies in an effort to combat environmental incentives for alternative energy and transportation, and to destroy or marginalize all opposing innovation in these areas.

OK. How come then is our current President_Elect and his son have engaged with oil and gas entity in a foreign land to help them but wants to go after US oil and gas companies to limit them? Either you are all in or all against fossil fuels given the supposed concern for global climate change? The position seems to be more economic than environmental.
 

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